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Started by martincisneros, April 30, 2008, 11:16:43 AM

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Joan of Arc

Was Joan of Arc a prophetess and New Testament version of a "judge" like out of the book of Judges in the Old Testament?  Or crazy, perhaps demonized??

If perhaps a New Testament "judge" like from the book of Judges in the Old Testament, then might there be more people like her as the centuries roll on and God's looking to stir up the Acts 17 pot of where everybody lives, our boundaries, etc.???

If a total loon, then why did anybody listen to her to start with?




Since we seem to be trimming down the boards, I don't care if this thread is dumped at the end of May.  Just wanted to ask 'cause it didn't quite fit on the book of Revelation board, but it does have baring on a futurist world view of prophecy, the work of the Lord in the earth, any relevant lessons about not being too quick to toss the first stone about any revolutionaries amongst us that might be a modern "David" genuinely being sent up against a "Goliath" that wouldn't come down any other way prior to the resurrection.  I just wanted to see if there were any opinions, anybody that's studied this, prayed about it, etc.  And I'd like a day or two to read any replies.  This board still says nearly "anything goes here," though.  So, I thought I'd ask.  Not sure if it's a relevant question about either politics, gifts of the Spirit, some combination of all of the above, or if there's a detail or two of the history that I'm not aware of that automatically points to something either sinister or demented.

When Paul says that we'll judge the world, in 1Corinthians 6, does this include "Declarations of Independence" such as the United States wrote in 1776 and spilled a lot of blood over, and situations like with Joan of Arc, or is this purely metaphysical and only exercised through the preaching of the Gospel and the results of it being embraced or resisted?

AbbasChild

Good questions. I've always wondered about that as well. But I honestly havn't found a satisfieng answer on this. Personaly I never grasped the whole purpose behind this womans story. I know an elderly Bible-teacher though who got saved after hearing the story of Joan of Arc.  :dontknow:
It is much more possible for the sun to give out darkness than for God to do or be, or give out anything but Blessing and Goodness.- William Law

Man can certainly flee from God... but he cannot escape him. He can certainly hate God and be hateful to God, but he cannot change into its opposite the eternal love of God which triumphs even in his hate. --Karl Barth

martincisneros

Quote from: Floyd on May 01, 2008, 10:51:49 PM
Good questions. I've always wondered about that as well. But I honestly havn't found a satisfieng answer on this. Personaly I never grasped the whole purpose behind this womans story. I know an elderly Bible-teacher though who got saved after hearing the story of Joan of Arc.  :dontknow:

The story seems to get deeper and deeper.  I've heard more and more details about it both from various things that TBN has shown on her, and from what they've shown on some of the locally public sponsored educational stations.  I've been moved to tears by it several times over the last decade and haven't been able to discern why.  Whether it was her being a female version of David in her day, facing not only the impossible political odds but the overpowering chauvinism of the day, or if it was the religious narrow-mindedness of her persecutors, or whatever other detail, I'm not sure what's consistently gotten the tears from me.  Perhaps in some ways, her life is a metaphor for all of my pre-UR days, and perhaps of a thing or two that I'm still having to walk out with the Lord in the Psalm 23 valley.