If Time is considered linear and represented by a straight line of 180deg. Then it is easy to conjecture that infinity/eternity can be identified by a circle . A circle has no beginning and no ending. A circle can be divided ever smaller or larger depending on ones' position, by pi for infinity/eternity. Infinitely dividing the circle represents physical space and an eternity of time is needed to make the divisions. Infinity/eternity can then be described by 360 deg.
180 (time) x 360 (eternity) = 64800
180 + 360 = 540 (exactly 1/10 the nautical miles from either pole to the equator.)
64800/540 = 120 (the exact number of jubilees in 6000years ... 4000bc + 2000 ad)
540 x 64800/6000 - 5760 = 72 (ambient temp. of mans comfort zone = 72deg.)
540x64800 = 34992000
34992000/777600 = 45 (864000 - 777600 = 86400)
34992000/900 = 3888
34992000/180 = 1944
34992000/360 = 97200
34992000/2160 = 16200
2x64800=129600 = 360squared
864000/64800 = 13.3333333.........
64800/2160 = 30 (#days in a prophetic month)
334800/64800 = 270,000 (270000 - 144000 = 126000) Adam lived 334800days ... 1260 of Revelation 11:3)
64800 x 666/9990 = 4320 (Alpha total of Rev.13:18 = 9990...# of beast verse)
Mans heart beats an average of 4320 beats per hour.
64800 x 9990/666 = 972000
64800 x 888/111 = 518400
64800 x 111/888 = 8100
64800/60 = 1080
64800 x 24/270 = 5760
64800/518400 = 1296
64800/63360 = 1440 (63360 inches in one mile...1440 minutes in 1 hour)
86400 - 64800 = 21600
64800 + 57600 = 122400
The Word Christ is found 558 times in the King James Bible...The Word of God...
The alpha number for Jesus in Greek is 888.
558x888 = 495504
There are 4440 verses in the 5 Major prophets of the Old Testament.
4440/5 = 888
495504/4440 = 111.6
186000x60 = 11160000
186000/6000 = 31
31 x 15984 = 495504 ( hearing range of man 16 - 16000 vibrations per second
16000 - 16 = 15984
495504/111/4 = 1116
588 x 2 = 1116
Dimensions of Sphinx
20 x 66 x 240
(20x66x240) x 360/180 = 633600
(20x66x240) x 180/360 = 158400
(20x66x240) - 144000 = 172800
(20x66x240) x 2 = 633600
(20x66x240)/10080 = 31.4 (10080 minutes in one week)
(20x66x240)/60 = 5280
(20x66x240)/55 = 5760
(20x66x240)/11 = 28800
(20x66x240)/22 = 14400
(20x66x240)/33 = 9600
(20x66x240)/44 = 7200 (7200 = square root of 51840000 = 360 x 144000
(20x66x240)/66 = 4800
(20x66x240)/88 = 3600 (number of seconds in one hour)
(20x66x240)/99 = 3200
(20x66x240)/77 = 4114.285714................
..............4114.285714 x 2 = 8228.571428
..............5760 x 6000/4200 (mars diam.) = 8228.571428
..............380160 (Adam to Noah @1056x360)/77 = 4937.142857
..............5760 - 4937.142857 = 822.857143
..............5760/7 = 822.8571428
..............864000/1050 = 822.8571428 (1050 verses in 12 minor prophets)
..............822.857143 x 175 = 144,000 (Abraham lived 175 years)
822.85714/pi = 2583.771419
2712960 (circumference of sun)/1050 = 2583.7714
639360/777 = 822.85714 ... (639360 = 111 x 5760 ... 144 x 4440 ... 888 x 720 etc.)
93,000,000/360 = 258.333333333......
186,000/720 = 258.3333333333...........
155,000/600 = 258.3333333333.. (93,000,000/600 = 155,000)
558/258.333333 = 2.16
864,000/558 = 1548.387
144,000/1548.387 = 93.000005
144,000/558 = 258.06451
The square root of 666 = 25.806975
558/216 = 2.58333333...............
558 + 855 + 585 = 1998
93,000,000/558 = 166666.66
186,000/1.666666666 = 111600
864,000/1.666666666 = 518400.0002
The speed of light was recently slowed to 38 miles per hour in the laboratory.
38 miles per hour is 3344 feet per minute.
864000/3344 = 258.3
3344 feet per minute is 200640 feet per hour.
200640/25.8 = 7776.7441
There are 7 days in a week. A day with the Lord is as a thousand years. There have been 5000 years from the end of the first millienium to the beginning of the last millienium.
5000 - 3344 = 1656 (year of flood )
200640/1056 = 190
200640 minus the two inner zeros = 2640 = number of feet in one half mile.
864000/5000 = 172.8
There are 838380 letters in the King James New Testament.
There are 12000 from each tribe sealed in Revelation 14.
838380 x 12000 = 10,060,560,000
10,060,560,000/144,000 = 69,865
69,865/180 = 3881.1388888
838380/2160 = 3881.1388888
838380/12000 = 69.865
There are 2,728,100 letters in the King James Old Testament
1000 squared + 864,000 + 864,000 + 100 = 2,728,100
Jesus is THE WAY THE TRUTH AND THE LIFE no one can come to the father but by him. To try to get to heaven any other way makes you a thief thieves are judged and punished.
It was not the adroitness of the ancient peoples who made the things you are finding out about the real history of the world. It was God who laid the foundations of the world. The heavens declare the glory of God. Read Psalm 19.
The Sphinx has a base length of 240 feet
height of 66 feet
width of 20 feet.
4000bc (Adam to Jesus) = 2000ad (Jesus to present) = 6000 years 6000 - 5760 = 240
there are 66 books in the Bible
The square root of the ratio of the diameter of the sun to the moon is 20
66 x 20 = the number of feet in one quarter mile (1320)
66 x 240 = 15840
20 x 240 = 4800
20 x 66 x 240 = 316800
316800 -:- 1056 = 300 (300 years = 1/20 of time from Adam to 2000 ad.)
316800 - 144000 = 172800
316800 - 334800 = 18000 (Adam lived 334800 days ... 18000days in a jubilee)
316800 -:- 5 = 63360 # inches in one mile
316800 -:- 60 = 5280
316800 x 300 = 95040000 # inches from one corner of New jerusalem to the next.
328320 - 316800 = 11520 Seth lived 328320 days
327600 - 316800 = 10800 Cainan
322200 - 316800 = 5400 (Mahalaleel
346320 - 316800 = 29520 Jared
For clarification / means division for speed and to better see patterns large numbers will not be separated by comas.
There are 838380 letters in The King James Bible, New Testament.
8...3...8...3...8...0
8 8 8 = Alphanumeric for Jesus in Greek
3 3 = Age Jesus was Crucified and rose from the dead
0 = is the symbol which by virtue of pi represents infinity/eternity
Jesus said that He was the Alpha and Omega...The single letter word "A" is found 9888 times in the KING JAMES BIBLE. Notice 9 is the Omega number of the nine number system or the Last number, of the nine. and 888 is the Greek alpha number JESUS.
There are 838380 letters in the KJV New Testament, there are 27 books in the KJV NT. 838380/pi/27 = 9888.8888888888888888888...............
New Jerusalem is a cube 1500 miles square.
The volume of New Jerusalem is 3375000000
3375 x 2304 (1152x2) = 7776000 ... 7776000=900/1000 of the diameter of the sun. There are 7776000 days in 21600 prophetic years @ 360 days per year.
3375000000/864000 = 3906.25 .... The square root of 3906.25 = 62.5
2304 x 62.5 = 144000
360000/62.5 = 5760 (a day is as a 1000 years ratio is 360000/1 (prophetic)
62.5 x 360 = 150 squared.
62.5 x 1728 = 108000
From one corner of New Jerusalem to the next is 1500 miles
1500 miles x 5280feet x 12 inches = 95040000 inches.
The area of New Jerusalem is 13500000 square miles
(V.NJ) 3375000000/(A.NJ)13500000 = 250
95040000/250 = 380160 .... From Adam to Noah was 1056 years ... 1056 x 360 = 380160 or The area of New Jerusalem divided into the volume of NJ divided into the number of inches from corner to corner of NJ is equal to the number of days in prophetic years from Adam to Noah.
95040000/3 = 31680000
95040000/6 = 15840000
95040000/9 = 10560000
864000 (sun) x 2160 (moon) = 1866240000
1866240000/7776000 = 240 (6000 - 5760)
1866240000 squared = 43200
There have been 120 jubilees from Adam to 2000 ad ... 120 x 360 = 43200
Not counting the one which can be symmetric or non symmetric depending on how it is drawn there are only 2 symmetric numbers
3 is symmetric horizontally and 8 is symmetric both horizontally and vertically. The 8 which is representative of Jesus in sequence 888 makes a cross when the lines are drawn.
3 x 8 = 24
3 x 8 x 3 = 72
3 x 8 x 3 x 8 = 576
3 x 8 x 3 x 8 x 3 = 1728
3 x 8 x 3 x 8 x 3 x 8 = 13824 ( + 2160 = 15984) Total hearing range of man
3 x 8 x 3 x 8 x 3 x 8 x 3 = 41472 (/6 = 6912)
3 x 8 x 3 x 8 x 3 x 8 x 3 x 8 = 331776 (576 squared)
3 x 8 x 3 x 8 x 3 x 8 x 3 x 8 x 3 = 995328 (/144 = 6912)
3 x 8 x 3 x 8 x 3 x 8 x 3 x 8 x 3 x 8 = 7962624 (/1152 = 6912)
PRE-FLOOD PATRIARCHS
The following are reckoned in prophetic years @ 360 days per year.
Patriarch Number of days lived
Adam 334800
Seth 328320
Enos 325800
Cainan 327600
Mahalaleel 322200
Jared 346320
Enoch 131400
Methuselah 348840
Lamech 279270
Noah 342000
Methuselah was the longest lived man mention in the Bible.
Methuselah
348840 - 325800 (Enos) = 23040
348840 - 322200 (Mahalaleel) = 26640 ( = 888 x 30 ... 4440 x 6)
348840 - 346320 (Jared) = 2520 (number of days in 7 prophetic years)
348840 - 279720 (Lamech) = 69120
348840 - 342000 (Noah) = 6840 (6840 - 5760 = 1080 radius of moon)
Noah
342000 - 334800 (Adam) = 7200 (7200 is square root of 51840000 ... #hrs. in 6000 prophetic years)
342000 - 328320 (Seth) = 13680 (15984 - 13680 = 2304)
342000 - 325800 (Enos) = 16200 (16200 - 15984 = 216)
342000 - 327600 (Cainan) = 14400
342000 - 322200 (Mahalaleel) = 19800 (342000 - 144000 = 198000)
342000 + 4320 = 346320 (Jared)
342000 - 131400 (Enoch) = 210600 (210600/19.5 = 10800)
342000 + 6480 = 348840 (Methuselah)
342000 - 279270 (Lamech) = 62280 (63360 - 62280 = 1080) 63360 inches in 1 mi)
double number significance from Adam to Noah is 1056 years @ 360 days per prophetic year = 380160 days.
380160 x 11 = 34560
380160 x 22 = 17280 ( # cubic inches in 100 cubic feet ... non prime #'s of the nine multiplied x 10 4 x 6 x 8 x 9 = 1728
380160 x 33 = 11520 (highest vibration of voice of man x 10...age of Jesus at crucifiction)
380160 x 44 = 8640 = number of hours in one prophetic year
380160 x 55 = 6912 (48 x 144)
380160 x 66 = 5760 Jewish calendar 2000 ad
380160 x 77 = 4937.142857 ... 5760 - 4937.142857 = 822.85714
864,000 (d.of sun) -:- 1050(#vers.in minor prophets) = 822.85714
822.85714 -:- 175(#years Abraham lived ) = 144,000
380160 -:- 88 = 4320 (average number of times mans heart beats per hour)
380160 -:- 99 = 3840 6000 (4000 bc + 2000 ad) - 3840 = 2160 (d. of Moon)
5760 - 3840 = 1920 ...1920 x 2 = 3840
3840 - 2400 = 1440 min in 24 hrs
etc...etc...etc...
New Jerusalem is 1500 miles square.
The moon is a sphere 2160 miles.
Using the formula c-square = a-square + b-square (Pythagorean therom) we find that a cube 1500 miles square will fit perfectly in a sphere with 2160 mile linear diameter. with 19.5 miles from each corner to the surface of the sphere.
19.5 = hyper dimensional physics
The ratio of a thousand years is as a day is 360,000 to 1.(prophetic cal.)
New Jerusalem is a cube 1500 miles square. To find the volume of a cube the formula is h x w x l ...
1500 X 1500 X 1500 = 3,375,000,000 cubic miles is the volume of New Jerusalem. 3,375,000,000 -:- 864,000 (diameter of sun) = 3906.25
The square root of 3906.25 = 62.5
360,000 -:- 62.5 = (5760)
According to the text book Matter Life and Energy the voice of man vibrates the larynx from 80 to 1152 vibrations per second.
5 X 1152 = (5760) 5760 -:- 80= 72 ( 72degrees is comfort temp of flesh)
72 X 5760 -:- 360 = 1152
Water freezes at 32 degrees. linear time is represented by 180 degrees
32 X 180 = (5760) A woman is most apt to conceive at 64 degrees
90 deg. is a right angle 90 X 64 = (5760)
Do you believe in God?
Einstein did.
He said there has to be a God there is too much order in the universe. According to the World Almanac the diameter of the sun is 864,000 miles. The diameter of the moon 2160 miles.
There is a common thread that runs through the solar system and the King James Bible. (The heavens declare the Glory of God...)
THE BOOK OF REVELATION GIVES SPECIAL EMPHASIS ON THE NUMBER 144,000
THE NUMBER 6 IS THE NUMBER WHICH BEST DESCRIBES MAN. MAN CREATED 6th DAY, NUMBER OF BEAST/MAN 666...ETC...
864,000 (sun) divided by 6 (man) = 144,000 (864,000 -:- 6 = 144,000)
According to the Jewish Historian Josephus a GREAT YEAR is 600 years. This is exactly one tenth of time from Adam to 2000 ad. (Antiquities I,3:9)
There were 4000 years from Adam to Jesus and 2000 years from Jesus to 2000 ad. Thats a total of 6000 years.
The Jewish calendar year for 2000 ad is ...5760...
6000 - 5760 = 240
240 x 600 = 144,000 ( a great year multiplied by the difference of the Gregorian and Jewish calendars is 144,000!!
There are only nine numbers in our system, and the symbol zero. There are certain numbers of importance BUILT IN to our number system.
1 + 2 + 3 + 4 + 5 + 6 + 7 + 8 + 9 = 45 the sq. root of 9 is 3
1-9 divided into three subsets of three are 1 + 2 + 3 = 6
4 + 5 + 6 = 15
7 + 8 + 9 = 24
6 x 15 x 24 = 2160
2160 is the linear diameter of the moon. So built into our system are the numbers 45 ... 2160
144,000 x pi = 452160
On the Jewish Month Tishri the second day Solomon dedicated the first temple in Jerusalem with a 1050 word prayer (King James) there are 1050 verses in the 12 Minor Prophets. On Tishri the second day Ezra dedicated the second temple after the Babylonian captivity. On Tishri the second day of 5760 the Gregorian date will be May 7 2000
May = (5)th month (7)th day) (6000)th year from Adam)
5 7 6 0
5760
On May 7 2000 there will be an alignment in the heavens which the ancient Jews felt represented the Menorah (candlestick) in the heavens Venus...Mercury...Sun...Moon...Mars...Jupiter...Saturn
According to Josephus The moon represented the Messiah in this alignment.(Revelation 2:1)
There have been 1260 sets of 1260 days from the Flood to Jan 2000.
(1260 ... Revelation 11:3) 1260 squared equals 1,587,600,
From the flood to Jan 2000 = 1,587,600 days
There are 7 days in one week.
1 + 2 + 3 + 4 + 5 + 6 + 7 = 28
1 + 2 + 3 + 4 + 5 + 6 = 21
1 + 2 + 3 + 4 + 5 = 15
1 + 2 + 3 + 4 = 10
1 + 2 + 3 = 6
1 + 2 = 3
1
3 x 6 x 10 x 15 x 21 x 28 = 1,587,600
September 11,1999 began the Jewish calendar year 5760. 5760 is a very significant year. The number 5760 is deeply embedded in natural phenomenon. The King James Bible and the solar system.
The earth travels 1,600,000 miles in one day in orbit. There are 360 days in one prophetic year/degrees in a circle.
1,6,00,000 X 360 = (576,0)00,000 miles per prophetic year.
There are 24 hours in a day there are 60 minutes in one hour, thats 1440 minutes in 24 hours. 4 X 1440 = (5760) ... 1440 squared divided by 360 = (5760)
The Bible says that a day is as a thousand years with God. There have been 6000 years from Adam to the present. (4000 bc) + (2000 ad)
6000 - 5760 = 240 [6000 X 5760 -:- 240 = 144,000 (revelation 14)]
the diameter of the sun 864,000 -:- 6 = 144,000
144,000 -:- 6000 = 24 ... 144,000 -:- 5760 = 25 ... 25 X 24 = 600 (a great year)
600 X 240 = 144,000
Daniel and Revelation are the 27th books respectively of the old and new testaments. Both deal with the same subject matter.
27 X 5760 - 144,000 = 11520 ... 27 X 5760 -:- 144 = 1080 (radius of the moon)
The diameter of the moon is 2160 miles there are 3600 seconds in one hour.
2160 + 3600 = (5760)
2000 ad is 6000 years from Adam and is represented as 2000 ad. 2000 ad is 5760 on the Jewish calendar. There is a 240 year difference there are 24 hours in a day. 24 X 240 = (5760)
There are 4000 years from Adam to Jesus; there are 1760 yards in one mile 4000 + 1760 = (5760)
Revelation 13:18 is the mark of the beast verse. This verse has a Greek alphanumeric value of 9990. 5760 X 9990 -:- 666 = 86,400 ... there are 86,400 seconds in 24 hours. 86,400 is 1/10th the diameter of the sun.
Noah's ark was on the waters 150 days. 5760X150 = 864,000 (sun)
The King James Bible says in Hebrews 11:3 that by the WORD of GOD the worlds were framed. The Bible also states that ... In the beginning was the WORD ... and the WORD was God.
In the KING JAMES BIBLE the WORD ... CHRIST ... is found 558 times.
144,000 -:- 558 = 258.0645161
One tenth of the speed of light per minute is 1116 miles per minute.
186,000 x 60 (sec.) = 11160000 One half of 5760 = 2880 (speed of light) (time)
2880 -:- 1116 = 2.580645161
A biblical prophetic year, as well as a circle has 360 days/degrees.
Adam lived 930 years ... 930 x 360 = 334,800 days
864,000 -:- 334,800 = 2.580645161
666/212 = pi water boils at 212 f
600 x 20 x 20 x 20 x 6 = 28800000
Adam lived 930 years
186,000 -:- 930 = 200
28800000 -:- 200 = 144,000
28800000 -:- 18 = 1600000 ( distance earth travels each day in orbit)
The square root of 666 is 25.8
93,000,000 -:- 360 = 258333.33
186,000 -:- 25.833333 = 7200
7200 is the square root of 51,840,000
there are 51,840,000 hours in 6000 prophetic years
360 x 144,000 = 51,840,000
558 -:- 216 = 258.3
186,000 -:- 720 = 258.3
186,000 -:- 558 = 333.33333
360,000 -:- 333.33333 = 1080
6000 -:- 180 = 33.333333
2712960 (sun cir.) -:- 1050 = 2583.7714
271296 -:- 9990 (alphanumeric of beast verse) x 4 = the number of leap days from 75th day of flood to Jan 2000. leap day every 4 years
271296 -:- 2160 = 1256 (pi x 400)
The diameter of the sun is 864,000 miles ... the moon 2160 miles ... mans heart beats an average of 4320 beats per minute.
864,000 X 2160 -:- 5760 + 4320 = 328,320 ... (Seth, Adams son lived 912 years ... 912 @ 360 = ... 328,320 days.
The diameter of the Sun (864,000) X (2160) diameter of the moon, = 1,866,240,000.
The difference between 6000 (4000 bc + 2000 ad) and 5760 is 240.
1,866,240,000 -:- 240 = 7776000 ... there are 1296 square inches in one square yard. 7776000 -:- 1296 = 6000 ... AKA 2000 AD ... AKA 5760
THERE ARE 60 SECONDS IN ONE MINUTE ... THERE ARE 31,104,000 SECONDS IN ONE PROPHETIC YEAR ... 60 x 31,104,000 IS = TO 864,000 x 2160.
7776000 ... 777 x 6000 = 4662000 ... THE DIAMETER OF THE MOON SQUARED PLUS THE NUMBER OF SECONDS IN ONE HOUR EQUALS ... 4662000 NOAHS FATHER LIVED 777 YEARS.
Subj: The WORD of GOD
Noah was born 1,056 years from Adam. 1,056 squared + 1/1000 the diameter of the sun (864) = 1,116,000 (this is 1/10 the speed of light per minute) 60 sec. x 186,000 = 11,160,000
The word Christ is found 558 times in the King James Bible ("THE" WORD OF GOD FOR THE ENGLISH SPEAKING PEOPLES OF THE WORLD).
1,116,000 111 = Hebrew Alphanumeric for Jehovah God
6,000 = 4,000 bc = 2,000 ad aka 5,760
1,116,000 -:- 558 = 2,000 (ad)
Adam lived 334,800 days @ (360 day prophetic year)
1,116,000 -:- 334,800 = 3.333333333 ... 334,800 is 1/3 of 1/10 the speed of light per minute.
334,800 -:- 600 (great year) = 558
The Diameter of the sun (864,000 miles) divided by the diameter of the moon (2,160 miles) = 400
400 x pi = 1,256
360 (pro.year) x 1,256 = 452,160
144,000 x pi = 452,160
452160 x 6 = 2,712,960 (circumference of the sun)
72,000 is 1/2 of 144,000
452,160 - 72,000 = 380,160 (Noah born 1056 from Adam 1056 x 360 = 380,160)
The ratio of a thousand years is as a day Prophetic year is 360,000/1
Man can speak by vibration of the larynx ...lowest vibration per second is 80 ... highest is 1152.
80 x 1152 = 92,160 (notice how 2160 keeps showing up ... 45 2160 9 2160)
360,000 + 92,160 = 452,160
Enoch walked with God for 365 years and God took him.
365 x 360 = 131400 days ... 360 squared + 1800 = 131400 (1800 days in 5 prophetic years 1800 = linear time x 10)
The number for AntiChrist is Capitol Six hundred three score and six.
a score is 20
600 x 20 x 20 x 20 x 6 = 28,800,000
28,800,000 -:- 11160000 = 2.5806451
144,000 -:- 558 = 258.06451
( a hundred times the magnitude attributed to Christ over anti-Christ )
We only have nine numbers 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, and the symbol 0
0 can represent infinity by virtue of pi. infinity/eternity.
The volume of New Jerusalem is 3,375,000,000 cubic miles. The significant numbers are 3375.
A long hundred weight has 112 pounds.
112 x 3375 = 378,000
378,000 -:- 360 = 1050 ... Solomon dedicated the Temple with a 1050 word Prayer in the King James Bible .... there are 1050 verses in the minor prophets ... the single letter word O is found 1050 times in the King James Bible.
From Adam to the 75th day of flood @ 360 is 596,160 days ... from 75th day of flood to Jan 2000 is 1'587'600 days
596,160 + 1,587,600 = 2,183,760
The diameter of the moon x 1000 = 2,160,000
2,183,760 - 2,160,000 = 23,760
Man can hear from 16 to 16,000 vibrations per second 16,000 - 16 = 15,984 vibrations per second as the total hearing range of man.
23,760 - 15,984 = 7776
23,760 -:- 22.5 = 1056 (flood rose 22.5 feet over the land) 1056 Noah born
23,760 -:- 22 = 1080 (radius of moon ... 22 chapters in revelation)
23,760 -:- 66 = 360 (66 books in King James Bible)
23,760 -:- 55 = 432
23,760 -:- 77 = 308.57142
2160 -:- 7 = 308.57142
23,760 -:- 11 = 2160
New Jerusalem is a cube ... 1500 miles long, wide, high.
A cube has 6 sides with 4 corners each with each corner at 90 degrees.
4 x 6 x 90 = 2160...
2160 x 1500 = 3,240,000
1800 squared = 3,240,000
144,000 -:- 22.5 = 3,240,000
3,240,000 -:- 3000 = 1080 (3000 years = 1/2 time from Adam to 2000 ad)
3,240,000 -:- 864,000 = 3.75
90 -:- 6 -:- 4 = 3.75
If a circle had a diameter of 5760 ... The circumference would be 5760 x pi = 18086.4
The area would be pix 2880 x 2880 = 26044416
26044416 -:- 18086.4 = 1440 ( the number of minutes in 24 hours.)
26044416 -:- 5760 = 4521.6 (144,000 x pi = 452160)
6000 (4000 bc + 2000 ad) - 5760 = 240
365.25 - 360 = 5.25 ... 240 x 5.25 = 1260
the middle of 6000/5760 is 5880 ...
864,000 + 144,000 + 186,000 + 334800 + 58800 = 1,587,600 (1260 squared)
Sun Rev. lit spd Adam 5880 x 10
Subj: The United states encoded in the King James Bible numbers/the solar system/and numbers...
In the KING JAMES BIBLE. (THE) WORD OF GOD , for the English speaking peoples of the world, we find numbers that are related to the solar system/time/space/pi and other fascinating numbers.
In the book of 2nd Peter, concerning the near time of the return of Christ we find the following statements. II Peter 3;5. "FOR THIS THEY WILLINGLY ARE IGNORANT OF, THAT BY THE WORD OF GOD THE HEAVENS WERE OF OLD" ... V.8 ... "BUT BELOVED BE NOT IGNORANT OF THIS ONE THING, THAT ONE DAY IS WITH THE LORD AS A THOUSAND YEARS AND A THOUSAND YEARS AS ONE DAY."
There are two calendars in the Bible the prophetic year of 360 days and the civil of 364 days ... We go by the Gregorian which is 365.25 days.
In the book of Genesis we find that God worked 6 days and rested the 7th. There have been 6000 years from Adam to the present.
(4000 bc Adam to Jesus) + (2000 from Jesus to the present) = 6000 years..
The Jewish calendar year is 5760 ... The difference between 5760 and 6000 is 240...
The difference between 365.25 and 360 = 5.25
5.25 x 240 = 1260 so the number of difference in a Gregorian year and a Jewish Prophetic year multiplied by the difference in the Gregorian/Jewish calendar dates equals a number important to end time prophecy ... 1260 ...
First ... how this continent came to be.......
In order to understand this you must look outside the box that you have been taught into by the establishment....
Beginning at Adam and counting forward we are given the following chronology...
From Adam to Noah 1056 years...
From Noah's birth to flood ... 600 years
Noah and family on ark 1 year ...
Shem begets Arphaxad 2 years later ...
Arphaxad begets Salah 530 years later ...
Salah begets Eber 30 years later ...
Eber begets a son 34 years later, and based on knowledge of what will happen in the lifetime of his son, he names his son for the anticipated event ... PELEG.
It is this event that will give the world the north American continent where the United States of America sits.
In the text book 'THE ABC'S OF NATURE', We are told that all of the continents were once one super continent called in the Greek Pangaea, meaning all lands. A look at any globe or map will show that this is true ...They go on however to state that this separation took place 200 million years ago ...
They are right about the separation but way way off on the date...
The name that the Eber ( where the word Hebrew originates), gave his son was ... Peleg. Peleg in the Hebrew language is PALAG, which means Earthquake .... to split ... to divide...
Peleg we are told in the Bible lived 239 years ... This is important because it indicates that Peleg did not live to his fullness of years and could have (I believe ... did) died in the earthquake for which he was named in advance, thus setting the time for which the event occurred..
1056 + 600 + 1 + 2 + 530 + 30 + 34 = 2253 ... From Adam to the birth of Peleg 2253 years.
2253 - 2160 (diameter of the moon) = 93 ... 93 is the base harmonic of 930 Adams years of life ... 93,000,000 distance of earth from sun.
Peleg lived 239 years
2253 + 239 = 2492
One half of calendar time from Adam to 2000ad is 3000 years
2492 + 3000 = 5492
5492 = ... 4000 bc + 1492 ad ... America was re-discovered in 1492 ad by Columbus..
The birthday of the United states is considered July 4th 1776.
In Bavaria Germany in 1776 a man Named Adam Weishaupt created the modern day version of the Illuminati. When their symbol on the reverse of the seal of the United states was placed on the dollar bill they were announcing their supremacy over the United States Government. In Latin pronouncing the birth of the Novus (new) ordo(order) seculorum Secular ... world ... world without God.with the date in roman numerals at on the base of the pyramid 1776 ...
You do not need to rely only on the Biblical account of the recent (thousands not millions) of years ago earth changes ... True science will prove it.
THE PIRI REIS MAP
Piri Reis is a well established historical figure. He lived in the late1400's and early1500's. He was an admiral in the Ottomon Turk empire, and an expert on the lands of the Mediterranean and the author of a well read book on the subject.
Admiral Reis made a map in constantinople in 1513 ad. He states that he used source maps to complete the project.
On this map the western coast of Africa is seen ... the eastern coast of South America and the NORTHERN COAST OF ANTARCTICA ... The interesting thing about this map is that it shows the ICE FREE coast of Queen Maud Land ...
The same coast that was then ice free has an ice cap one mile thick today.
Antarctica was only RE-discovered in modern times ... 1818 ...
The true profile of Queen Maud Land was not re- discovered until the Joint Swedish/British expedition of 1949...
After this comprehensive survey they found that the land under the ice (a mile thick) was exactly as it was depicted in the Piri Reis map.
The Falkland Islands not re-discovered until 1592 are clearly depicted at the proper latitude on the Piri Reis map of 1513.
In 1949 Admiral Byrd found clearly defined strata taken from core samples from the floor of the Ross Sea. These samples contained sediments from a temperate zone ... (ice free zone) ... These sediments were determined to be from the (RECENT) geologic past ... thousands not millions of years ago.
We are told by false scientists that Antarctica has been covered with ice for millions of years ...
The Piri Reis map is not alone; there's the Oronteus Finaeus map of 1531 ...
Gerard Kremer better known as Mercator, who's Mercator projection is still used on most world maps today printed his atlas in 1569 which showed even more details of Antarctica.
In the eighteenth century a French Geographer Phillip Bauche published a map of Antarctica. This map of 1737 shows a COMPLETE SUB GLACIAL TOPOGRAPHY which was not re-discovered until the seismic survey of 1958.
The fact that strata indicates that in the recent past that Antarctica was temperate (ice free) shows that Antarctica was located far north of its present location (thousands not millions of years ago.)
The pyramids of the earth also tell a story.
The great pyramid of Giza has incorporated into its geographic location and its dimensions information and knowledge post flood civilization has only now with the aid of computers began to understand.
Built into the pyramid is the geographic center of the earth, and an exacting knowledge of astronomy and time. There is an anomaly built into the Giza pyramid shared only by the great pyramid of this side of the world.. a metal counter sunk bracket. This links the two pyramids One built of stone one of brick covered covered in stone.
Now listen to the works of Josephus the 1st century Jewish Historian ... Josephus Antiquities of the Jews ... Book 1 chapter 2 verse 3 ... concerning Seth and his descendants ...
"...they also were the inventors of that peculiar sort of wisdom which is concerned with the HEAVENLY BODIES, and their order. And that their inventions might not be lost before they were sufficiently known , upon Adams prediction that the world was to be destroyed at one time by force of fire, and at another time by the violence and quantity of water, THEY MADE TWO PILLARS; THE ONE OF BRICK, THE OTHER OF STONE: they inscribed their discoveries on them both, that in case the pillar of brick should be destroyed by the flood the pillar of stone might remain, and exhibit those discoveries to mankind; and also to inform them that there was another pillar of brick erected by them"
Look at the location of the Great Pyramid of Giza..
Egypt is divided into upper and lower Egypt. If you could imagine a square with a pie shaped wedge from the top with the apex at the middle of the square this is some what Upper (south) and Lower (north) Egypt look like. So if you stood on top of the Great pyramid of Giza you would be on the border of Upper and Lower Egypt and in the middle of Upper Egypt ... The spot of the Great Pyramid is the only place that is both on the border and in the middle of Egypt.
Listen to the prophet Isaiah ... Chapter 19v.19 ... "IN THAT DAY THERE SHALL BE AN ALTER TO THE LORD IN THE MIDST OF THE LAND OF EGYPT AND A PILLAR AT THE BORDER THEREOF TO THE LORD ... V:20 ... AND IT SHALL BE FOR A ... SIGN ... AND FOR A WITNESS UNTO THE LORD OF HOSTS IN THE LAND OF EGYPT."
1776
One of the major pivital years is 1776 ad. Lets look at the number in relation to The King James Bible and the Solar system, as well as other significant numbers..The heavens are measured by numbers.
The sun and Moon have more responsibility than you might think...
Genesis 1:14 'And God said, let there be lights in the firmament of the heaven to divide the day from the night; and let them be for ... signs ... and for seasons, and for days and for years:"
V:16.." And God made the two great lights; the greater light to ... rule ... the day and the lesser light to rule the night:"
The Old Testament was written in Hebrew and Chaldean ... The New Testament was written in Greek.
The Hebrews as well as the Greek had an alphanumeric system of counting ... a number for each letter of the alphabet.
The Hebrew alphanumeric for Jehovah God is 111.
The Greek alphanumeric for Jesus is 888.
Notice that both are triple sequence numbers ... This gives better understanding to the "number of the beast" (666).
Our system of measurement is called the imperial system. Thusly called because the numbers were standardized by royalty, and God sets up kings to accomplish his will.
12 inches = 1 foot (by royal decree to standardize shoe size)
3 feet 1 yard. (distance from King Henry I of Normandy's nose to the end of his tip of middle finger)
5 feet = 1 pace
125 paces = 1 furlong
8 furlongs = 1 mile
12 furlongs = 1 league.
12 x 3 x 5 x 125 x 8 x 12 = 2160000 (diameter of moon=2160)
600 x 60 x 6 = 216000
there is one great year (600) every 216000 days ... prophetic years
the speed of the sun relative to the center of the galaxy is 216000 mph. etc. etc.
From Adam to Noah is 1056 years thats 380160 days in prophetic years.
There are 5 feet in one pace 5 x 1056 = 5280 ... there are 5280 feet in one mile.
888 x 2 = 1776
The angular diameter of the moon is 0.5 ... 888/0.5 = 1776
the earth travels 1600000 miles per day @ 24 hours a day.
1600000 x 111 = 177600000
The flood took place 1656 years from Adam ... There have been 120 jubilees (50 year cycles) from Adam to 2000 ad. 1656 + 120 = 1776
111 + 888 + 777 = 1776
pi (3.14) rearranged to every possible set =
314
413
134
431
143
+ 341
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1776
There are only 9 digits in our number system and the symbol 0. According to the text book Matter Life And Energy, man can hear from 16 to 16000 vibrations of sound waves per second ... 16000 - 16 = 15984 as the total hearing range of man. 15984/9 = 1776
There are 1728 cubic inches in one cubic foot. Ersatz Israel became a nation again in 48 ... 1728 + 48 = 1776
The Book of Genesis tells us that fallen Angels descended to earth and had offspring with woman. These were called Giants. It was to destroy these genetic hybrides that God sent Noah's flood ... Noah was genetically perfect in his lineage to Adam . The Book of Enoch which is quoted in the New Testament says that the Fallen Angels came down at the river Jordan....
Jordan (Yarden in Hebrew) ... a descender
Jared is the Patriarch which dates the arrival of these visitors from another (dimension) Jared means (Yered) ... a descent
Both words come from a root word (Yarad) to descend ... to literally go down ... figuratively to fall)
Jared lived 962 years there are 364320 days in 962 prophetic years ...
The number associated with hyper dimensional physics (interaction of two dimensions) is 19.5
364320/19.5 = 17760
The square root of the ratio of the sun/moons diameter is 20.
20x888 = 17760
1056 ... Noah born
1776 ... USA
1440 ... number of minutes in 24 hours
1088 ... speed of sound at 32 f sea level
400 ... ratio of sun/moon diameter
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5760 ... Jewish calendar year 5760
Linear time is represented by 180 deg. Man's body temperature is 98.6
17760/180 = 98.66666666 ...
There only nine numbers. The square root of nine is three. The last three numbers are 789 ... 789 + 987 = 1776
There are 639360 days in 1776 prophetic years.
639360/98.66666666 = 6480
6480 is exactly 1/4 of a platonic year.
Other numbers of significance to 639360 are ... 639360/444 = 1440...
639360/555 = 1152 (mans voice is from 80 to 1152 vibrations per second)
639360/144 = 4440 (4440 verses in 5 major prophets)
639360/111 = 5760
This is where it gets interesting.
639360/777 = 822.8571428 ... The reciprocal of 7 is o.142857142 ...
Of the nine numbers in our system there are five prime numbers and four non prime numbers
I consider the number one to meet the criteria of prime regardless of the debate.
prime numbers 1, 2, 3, 5, 7,
non prime 4, 6, 8, 9
1 x 2 x 3 x 5 x 7 = 210
4 x 6 x 8 x 9 = 1728
1728 -:- 210 = 8.228571428
The Jewish calendar year equivalent to 2000 ad multiplied by a great year (Josephus book 1 ch 3 v 9) divided by the diameter of Mars (4200 miles =
5760 x 600/4200 = 8228.571428
The number of days from Adam to Noah is 1056 x 360 = 380160 days.
380160/77 = 4937.142857
5760 - 4937.142857 = 822.857143
5760/7 = 822.8571428
Abraham lived 175 years
822.857143/175 = 144,000 (Revelation 14)
822.85714/pi = 2583.7714
2712960/1050 = 2583.7714 ... Circumference of sun = 2712960 miles ... 1050 verses in 12 minor prophets.)
I believe that the evidence is clear that God is God. It is not the genius of early man that brings the number systems of the world together it is the Word of God In the beginning was the Word and the Word was God ...
The distance of the earth to the sun is a harmonic of the life of Adam. Adam lived 930 years ... The earth is 93,000,000 miles from the sun.
The speed of light 186,000 miles per second..
The linear diameter of the moon is 2160 miles ...
The angular diameter of the moon is 0.5 miles
The earth travels 66,666 miles per hour in its orbit of the sun.
The distance of the earth to the sun divided by the speed of light per second multiplied by the (BIBLE NUMBER) of 144,000 divided by the linear diameter of the moon divided by the angular diameter of the moon equals the speed of the earth in orbit of the sun...
93000000/186000 x 144000/2160/0.5 = 66,666
A great year (600 years) will divide into the distance of the earth from the sun 155000 times
155000/600 = 258.33333333 ...
186000/720 = 258.33333333 ...
93000000/360 = 258.33333333 ....
558/2160 = 0.25833333333 ...
The word Christ is found 558 times in the KING JAMES BIBLE.
1 = Alpha has a numerical value of 1 in the Greek alphabet.
800 = Omega, the last letter has a value of 800.
4 = The number of creation
Father, Son, Spirit, Man
Spring, Summer, Autumn, Winter
Earth, air, fire, water
North, east, south, west
Rev 1:8 mentions Alpha=1 and Omega=8 for the first time.
Oxygen - number 8 in periodic table - 8 protons
Hydrogen - number 1 in periodic table - 1 proton
-> Building blocks of life
-> Light -> Sun is a huge hydrogen fusion reactor
2220 = "I am Alpha and Omega" =>Revelation 1.8 and 1.11
222 = Jehovah God Most High - Genesis 14.22
222 = I am Jehovah your God - Exodus 6.7
222 = Nazarene (referring to Jesus) - Luke 4.34
111 = The Most High (Daniel 4.32)
111 Royal Cubits = base perimeter of Pyramid Topstone
8 is the atomic number for oxygen
1.0080 is the atomic weight of hydrogen atom
1008 = The work of Thy Fingers (Psalm 8.3)
(David refers to God's creation of the heavens; this reminds us of the finger which wrote on the wall over the Candlestick at Belshazzar's Feast and the Fall of Babylon)
10080 miles is the combined diameters of Earth and moon
1080 miles is the radius of moon
1080 = The Holy Spirit
1080 = Heaven is My throne, and the earth is My footstool - Isaiah 66.1
willieH: Hi WW... :hithere:
:heat: ...WHEW! ...I think I need a dramamine after all that! :laughing7:
Does this mean... our "number" is up? :laugh:
peacE...
willieH :icon_king:
Willie :HeartThrob:
Your number is 468
4=creation
6=atomic number of feathers = Angel wings :pointlaugh:
8=omega
So I think you where created as angel but that has come to an end... :drama:
Lets see if there is more to learn.
4+2=6
6+2=8
22= atomic mass of snakeskin :laugh:
:hithere:
QuoteDoes this mean... our "number" is up?
up? Well....mmm.... :winkgrin:
BTW I'm not 100% sure my calculations are right.... :umnick:
What do you think Willie? :laughing7:
I think willie's number is 666, isn't that the number of man? :grin:
CHB
It's all fun and games until somebody says you've taken the mark of the beast and that the smoke of your torment will ascend forever and ever in the presence of the Lamb and of His messengers! :sigh:
Anyway, teasing aside, WhiteWings, did you copy this from a book or another website, or are you as obsessed with numbers as I am?
Quote from: martincisneros on October 16, 2008, 01:46:34 AM
It's all fun and games until somebody says you've taken the mark of the beast and that the smoke of your torment will ascend forever and ever in the presence of the Lamb and of His messengers! :sigh:
Anyway, teasing aside, WhiteWings, did you copy this from a book or another website, or are you as obsessed with numbers as I am?
I thought this was intestign:
Name
One interpretation is that 666 encodes the letters of someone's name or title, identifying the Antichrist.
Nero
Scholars who believe that the Book of Revelation refers to historical people and events argue that the number represents Nero. In Hebrew gematria, every letter has a corresponding number. Summing these numbers gives a numeric value to a word or name. The Greek spelling, "Neron Caesar," transliterates into Hebrew as "נרון קסר" or "nrwn qsr". Adding the corresponding values yields 666, as shown:
more here
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Number_of_the_Beast_(numerology)
Martin,
Obsessed with numbers... not really. I think many calculations are fake. Like computer=666
But looking at the Bible God seems to like deeper meanings, hidden meanings, trap doors, many numbers openly keep reoccuring. So for me it's pretty sure God also has added numbers to the puzzle.
But only in the source text?
That brings me to the number of letters in KJV. They are part from a calculation. That would prove it was inspired and hell an forever are correct translations. But I find the numerical proof weak.
About 666
Many calculations have be done in history to find the anti-christ. Or even looking at paintings. Poetin seems to look exactly like someone on a painting with Jesus on it. Can only very vaguely remember the story.
I posted this link before but no replies: http://www.666beast.net/
It calculates this/next pope as the anti-christ. But this calculation is not just adding a few numbers of the name of the pope. It uses Biblical 'concepts' that seem sound to me. But I don't know enough of the Bible to judge.
But you do Martin; and you, being obsessed with numbers, may find it a nice read.
If you do; I would like some feedback.
Quote
About 666
Many calculations have be done in history to find the anti-christ. Or even looking at paintings. Poetin seems to look exactly like someone on a painting with Jesus on it. Can only very vaguely remember the story.
I posted this link before but no replies: http://www.666beast.net/
It calculates this/next pope as the anti-christ. But this calculation is not just adding a few numbers of the name of the pope. It uses Biblical 'concepts' that seem sound to me. But I don't know enough of the Bible to judge.
But you do Martin; and you, being obsessed with numbers, may find it a nice read.
If you do; I would like some feedback.
WW, mans attempt is always looking OUTWARD for answers....to the natural, may I suggest looking INWARD :icon_flower:
Man , as Flesh, Flesh being enmity\ carnal minded\( Rom 8:7)was made on the 6TH DAY...6 being complete as ONE.=6 6 6.
Flesh\man\Beast\satan\devil\anti christ\son of perdition\darkness ,the flesh of \night\the ministry of Death are all ADVERSE\ enmity TO The WAY, The TRUTH, AND The LIFE being Christ.
Eph 2:15 Having abolished in his flesh the enmity, [even] the law of commandments [contained] in ordinances; for to make in himself of twain one new man, [so] making peace;
Eph 2:16 And that he might reconcile both unto God in one body by the cross, having slain the enmity thereby:
sorry Bud, The flesh will blame anyone bar itself....started in the Garden with EVE....
so ,ALL FLESH has to DIE, to LIVE .....ROM 6
T
Taffy,
Are you sure you are replying in the right thread? :laughing7:
I fail to see how this almost cut and paste standard answer has any relevance to this thread.... :dontknow:
But I do know the answer to that: "You'll understand when the HS tells you." :winkgrin:
Found a nice one. All based on the original Hebrew words.
Number of God: 26
Number of Adam: 45
Number of Eve: 19
45-26=19
Genesis 2:22 And the bone which the Lord God had taken from the man he made into a woman, and took her to the man.
Quote from: WhiteWings on April 26, 2009, 03:57:07 PM
Found a nice one. All based on the original Hebrew words.
Number of God: 26
Number of Adam: 45
Number of Eve: 19
45-26=19
Genesis 2:22 And the bone which the Lord God had taken from the man he made into a woman, and took her to the man.
:cloud9: That's too funny. Did you by any chance notice that if you add Eve and God together you get the number for Adam? :grin: Blessings....
No :happygrin:
But I did notice 45-19=26
But that's less funny so I won't post it
Cardinal,
Another one you will like.
Write down Son in Hebrew
=> Son
Add the letter Yod at the end of the word (son)
Now you have the Hebrew word for My
=> My=Son+Yod
Now at the letter Tav.
=> Convenant=My+Tav
The meaning of the letter Tav is cross (even looks like a cross being carried)
No add a little fantasy:
Convenant = Cross of My Son
Wow!
Passover.
Blood placed on the doorpost.
In Hebrew a word with the meaning "the sign" or "the seal" is used for that 'action'
The Hebre word has 3 letters.
Alef = Leader
Vav = Nail
Tav = Cross
Leader nailed to the cross.
Quote from: WhiteWings on April 26, 2009, 06:53:40 PM
No :happygrin:
But I did notice 45-19=26
But that's less funny so I won't post it
:cloud9: It's not funny, but it's true, in a sense, LOL.....Christ being God, if you take away the flesh (Eve) you have the Spirit, ie. Christ being revealed in us, Christ in you, the hope of glory. Blessings....
Quote from: WhiteWings on April 26, 2009, 07:11:55 PM
Cardinal,
Another one you will like.
Write down Son in Hebrew
=> Son
Add the letter Yod at the end of the word (son)
Now you have the Hebrew word for My
=> My=Son+Yod
Now at the letter Tav.
=> Convenant=My+Tav
The meaning of the letter Tav is cross (even looks like a cross being carried)
No add a little fantasy:
Convenant = Cross of My Son
Wow!
:cloud9: That is so cool. I would LOVE to learn Hebrew. I can just imagine the things I could "see" in there, if I could read the Word in the original language. If there was anywhere around here I could learn it, I would.
I've wanted to do that for YEARS, sigh..... for that reason alone I know the Pharisees knew He was the Son of the God, the Messiah.
There's just too much I've stumbled upon NOT knowing the language, imagine what they had to see WITH it? Blessings...
Quote from: WhiteWings on April 26, 2009, 07:17:10 PM
Passover.
Blood placed on the doorpost.
In Hebrew a word with the meaning "the sign" or "the seal" is used for that 'action'
The Hebrew word has 3 letters.
Alef = Leader
Vav = Nail
Tav = Cross
Leader nailed to the cross.
:cloud9: Yep, that one I read before. He's just awesome. It's like we left our true home to live in the wilds of the "forest" for a season, but He left us a "bread crumb" trail to find our way back home. Blessings....
Gives a new meaning to... Hey baby, what's your number :mblush:
:laughing7:
Paul
:cloud9: :grin: rofl.......laughter doeth good like a medicine..... :thumbsup:
Quote from: Cardinal on April 27, 2009, 09:45:07 AM
:cloud9: :grin: rofl.......laughter doeth good like a medicine..... :thumbsup:
Well said, number 19 :laughing7:
Quote from: WhiteWings on April 27, 2009, 09:56:27 AM
Well said, number 19 :laughing7:
:cloud9: rofl :laughing7:
(http://www.bible-codes.org/images/acrostic_bible_code_Adam-Abraham.jpg)
Lord =KURIOS=800 (Kappa=30 + Upsilon=400 + Rho=100 + Iota=10 + Omicron=70 + Sigma=200)
Jesus=IESOUS=888 (Iota=10 + Eta=8 + Sigma=200 + Omicron=70 + Upsilon=400 + Sigma=200)
Christ=XRISTOS=1480 (Chi=600 + Rho=100 + Iota=10 + Sigma=200 + Tau=300 + Omicron=70 + Sigma=200)
total=3168
This number appears throughout the Old and New Testaments. As an example, the dimensions for the construction of the Ark that Yahweh gave to Noah add up to 3,168 cubits. This is significant because the Ark represents Jesus Christ. By the way, the Ark was not a boat, but instead was a box - Noah did not need to navigate - where was he going? All that was required was to stay afloat!
The Gematria for the name Jesus is 888 (as noted above), is a crucial number, as the Gematria for every word of each Gospel (Matthew, John, Luke etc.) totals to that number. In addition to this, some Gematria is intrinsically linked to Sacred Geometry; paragraphs become symbols, shapes and geometric diagrams, depicting Sacred symbology! The Gematria of words spoken by Jesus in the Gospels were combined to form geometric shapes (circles, triangles, lines etc.) that fit together like some great diagram. Spoken words in a parable or story were used for imagery, while the numerical value of other words could intersect these geometric designs at crucial points. The Genius of our Creator has transformed the written Word into "three-dimensional hypertext" long before computers were even imagined.
The phrase "In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God" takes on new meaning when one studies Gematria. The scriptural references are endless. I don't have space to enter them all here.
In addition to these scriptural references, there are some mind-boggling numeric proportions and measurements affiliated with this number:
31,680,000 ft. = perimeter of The New Jerusalem
31,680 miles = perimeter of the Earth
31,680 furlongs = radius of the Earth
3,618 MMi. = perimeter of the Moon
316,800 MMi. = diameter of the Sun
316,800 inches = perimeter of the Cities of Refuge
316.8 ft. = Sarsen Circle (Stonehenge) circumference
:cloud9: Cool! :thumbsup: A friend of mine came across some sacred geometry in the texts. He sent me the diagram, which I printed off and then cut and taped to form it. It looked like a perfect cube, with a wedge shaped triangular form on top of it. Blessings....
Thanks :icon_flower:
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SATAN
(http://www.njop.org/jsAlephbet/ltr18.gif)(http://www.njop.org/jsAlephbet/ltr12.gif)(http://www.njop.org/jsAlephbet/ltr32.gif)
Nun Tet Shin
Shin= consume/destroy
Tet= snake/surround
Nun= life
Satan = The destroying snake that surrounds life
Jesus = Yeshua
Ayin Vav Shin Yod
Yod = (http://www.njop.org/jsAlephbet/ltr11.gif) = making/creating
Shin = (http://www.njop.org/jsAlephbet/ltr32.gif) = consuming/destroying
Vav = (http://www.njop.org/jsAlephbet/ltr1.gif) = adding/securing/save
Ayin = (http://www.njop.org/jsAlephbet/ltr15.gif) = knowing/seeing/experiencing
:cloud9: Gotta love the Hebrew :thumbsup: but isn't Satan HaSatan in the Hebrew?
"In the beginning" = Barasheet =
(http://www.njop.org/jsAlephbet/ltr29.gif)=Tav= Cross, mark, convenant
(http://www.njop.org/jsAlephbet/ltr11.gif) = Yod = Arm, hand, my hand, my effort, my work
(http://www.njop.org/jsAlephbet/ltr31.gif) = Shin = Teeth, consume, destroy
(http://www.njop.org/jsAlephbet/ltr7.gif) = Aleph = Ox, Bull, The first, Ultimate strength, God
(http://www.njop.org/jsAlephbet/ltr22.gif) = Resh = First/highest person
(http://www.njop.org/jsAlephbet/ltr6.gif) = Bet = House/tent
Last two letters combined: Bet+Resh = Son of
Son of God to destroy by his own hand the cross
Last two letters not combined
Head of the house to destroy by his own hand the cross
"In the beginning" = Barasheet = "The Son of God will be destroyed by His own hand on de cross"
KJVRev 13:8 ....... the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world.
KJVLuk 10:18 And he said unto them, I beheld Satan as lightning fall from heaven.
Lightning = BARAQ = Baw - Rawk
KJVLuk 10:18 And he said unto them, I beheld Satan as lightning fall from heaven.
Heaven = Heights = BAMAH = Bam - Maw
Waw = U or O (6th letter Hebrew alphabet) is used as a conjunction.
Baw Rawk O Bam Maw = Lightning from heaven
Barack means "Blessed" in Arabic.
Hussein means "the Handsome one" in Arabic.
Obama (in the language of his fathers Luo tribe)
=> O = He
=> Bam= Crooked
The blessed handsome one is crooked. :icon_jokercolor:
On the night after Obama's election in his homestate the lottery number was: 6667779
666 = Anti Christ
777 = Completion
9 = Judgement
Total 7 numbers
Obama was elected 7 years after 9/11
November 11th CIA gave Obame the codename Renegade.
2 Thessalonians 2 declares the anti-christ will be the lawless one = Renegade
Barack Hussein Obama = 501 = Germatria value
That's the same value as Judgement and end of days
Barack = Blessed
Hussein = Handsome
Obama = Leaning
English gematria value = 666
KJVRev 13:1 And I stood upon the sand of the sea, and saw a beast rise up out of the sea, having seven heads and ten horns, and upon his horns ten crowns, and upon his heads the name of blasphemy.
Put that verse in a Bible code program and you find the name Obama in it
Decendant of Ismael in the White House... :laughing7:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-UOKTNFMgQ8&feature=related
Do you have the bible code program?
Is it any good?
I once bought one. And lost it. I was to lazy to get past the learning curve :msealed:
Read: It's only (?) of use if you read Hebrew. (and understand all those meanings of each letter)
You know how they calculate a persons name into a number?
Quote from: thinktank on July 14, 2010, 08:34:35 PM
You know how they calculate a persons name into a number?
Yes. That's easy. Each letter has a number assigned to it.
Just add those numbers for the value of the name. That's the basic stuff. Much more complexity can be added.
For the numbers click HERE (http://www.amerisoftinc.com/images/heblet1.gif)
:cloud9: I had the bible code program but lost it when my computer crashed and had to be redone all over. Never used it, however. But the ELS code principle is how it works. They put in every 50 letter skip, for instance, and see what comes up. I have seen my own name in the codes, it's in there twice.
I personally think every person who has ever lived or will ever live, is in there, because we are the Word (that was Spirit) made flesh or natural creation, also. So is everything you can see, or touch, or feel, that is not man-made. All of it is, the waters below the firmament. Blessings...
Quote from: Cardinal on July 14, 2010, 09:16:39 PMI have seen my own name in the codes, it's in there twice.
Boosting again you are written in the Book of Life? :laughing7:
TWICE ==> Yer taking my spot. :icon_jokercolor:
Quote from: Cardinal on July 14, 2010, 09:16:39 PM
:cloud9: I had the bible code program but lost it when my computer crashed and had to be redone all over. Never used it, however. But the ELS code principle is how it works. They put in every 50 letter skip, for instance, and see what comes up. I have seen my own name in the codes, it's in there twice.
I personally think every person who has ever lived or will ever live, is in there, because we are the Word (that was Spirit) made flesh or natural creation, also. So is everything you can see, or touch, or feel, that is not man-made. All of it is, the waters below the firmament. Blessings...
Amazing, did your's base it on the Torah or the whole book?
Funny whitewings lost his too, I bet if you look both your names up, it would say.
whitewings: clumsy, will soon lose this program
Cardinal: Warning save your work because your computer is going to crash
or perhaps both of you used the "mission impossible" bible code software, that explodes after usage.
Quote from: WhiteWings on July 14, 2010, 09:27:41 PM
Quote from: Cardinal on July 14, 2010, 09:16:39 PMI have seen my own name in the codes, it's in there twice.
Boosting again you are written in the Book of Life? :laughing7:
TWICE ==> Yer taking my spot. :icon_jokercolor:
:cloud9: :grin: :laughing7: :icon_joker:
Quote from: thinktank on July 14, 2010, 09:31:20 PM
Quote from: Cardinal on July 14, 2010, 09:16:39 PM
:cloud9: I had the bible code program but lost it when my computer crashed and had to be redone all over. Never used it, however. But the ELS code principle is how it works. They put in every 50 letter skip, for instance, and see what comes up. I have seen my own name in the codes, it's in there twice.
I personally think every person who has ever lived or will ever live, is in there, because we are the Word (that was Spirit) made flesh or natural creation, also. So is everything you can see, or touch, or feel, that is not man-made. All of it is, the waters below the firmament. Blessings...
Amazing, did your's base it on the Torah or the whole book?
Funny whitewings lost his too, I bet if you look both your names up, it would say.
whitewings: clumsy, will soon lose this program
Cardinal: Warning save your work because your computer is going to crash
or perhaps both of you used the "mission impossible" bible code software, that explodes after usage.
:cloud9: A net friend of mine has the program and he got curious and ran it for me. He ran it on the whole text, if I remember right. I'd have to check it. I still have what he got in an email with the attachment of the results. The programs also lists the probability stats and on my code it was over a million to one. It was fascinating.
I have seen several codes, there is a Frenchman who is doing a lot of them; I know two people who are. They have found a LOT of them, and there is simply NO WAY, this is coincidence. Blessings...
Quote from: WhiteWings on July 14, 2010, 09:27:41 PM
Quote from: Cardinal on July 14, 2010, 09:16:39 PMI have seen my own name in the codes, it's in there twice.
Boosting again you are written in the Book of Life? :laughing7:
TWICE ==> Yer taking my spot. :icon_jokercolor:
lol
Quote from: Cardinal on July 14, 2010, 09:37:03 PM
:cloud9: A net friend of mine has the program and he got curious and ran it for me. He ran it on the whole text, if I remember right. I'd have to check it. I still have what he got in an email with the attachment of the results. The programs also lists the probability stats and on my code it was over a million to one. It was fascinating.
I have seen several codes, there is a Frenchman who is doing a lot of them; I know two people who are. They have found a LOT of them, and there is simply NO WAY, this is coincidence. Blessings...
Don't worry I was joking, it looked like I was having a go at you, now that I re read it.
I hope to buy the bible software one day, usefull for checking some things out. I do wonder about it's potential of abuse though and that does worry me a bit. One thing I hope I won't do is steal a copy of the bible software, I don't think that will go down to well with God.
:cloud9: There are places you can download a program for free, I think.....a friend sent me mine. And I knew you were joking :icon_jokercolor:
TT,
Just Google a bit.
Some software is free.
Some software you can test for a while until you pay for it.
Card do you have some titles?
http://www.freedownloadmanager.org/downloads/bible_code_software_software/
:cloud9: No, I don't. They were given to me years ago, and after I expressed an interest in having it, someone emailed it to me, so I never looked at the free ones. Blessings...
And what teh name of the none free one?
:cloud9: I don't remember, but I'm sure it could be found if you googled it. Some of the groups have it where you can download it for free, to participate in finding and sharing codes with them. You can find them by checking on the "religion/spirituality" tags on the major sites that list their groups. Blessings....
INRI = YHVHWhen Jesus was crucified, Pilate wrote the sign that was nailed to the cross. The particular wording he chose displeased the Jewish leadership and they asked him to change it. He refused. There are some interesting aspects to this incident that are not apparent in our English translations.
(John 19:19-22)
But why?
Latin: Iesus Nazareus Rex Iudaiorum
Hebrew:
(http://xwalk.ca/yhwh.gif)
H W H Y
Reading from right to left YHWH
:cloud9: :thumbsup: Nothing is by "chance".....
I really like Pilate...
Quote from: WhiteWings on September 19, 2010, 07:35:51 PM
INRI = YHVH
When Jesus was crucified, Pilate wrote the sign that was nailed to the cross. The particular wording he chose displeased the Jewish leadership and they asked him to change it. He refused. There are some interesting aspects to this incident that are not apparent in our English translations.
(John 19:19-22)
But why?
Latin: Iesus Nazareus Rex Iudaiorum
Hebrew:
(http://xwalk.ca/yhwh.gif)
H W H Y
Reading from right to left YHWH
Some scholars say that hebrew wasn't spoken during Jesus time, yet this sign is written in hebrew.
It was written in 3 languages.
EBRJohn 19:19 And Pilate wrote a title also, and placed on the cross; and there was written––JESUS, THE NAZARENE, THE KING OF THE JEWS.
EBRJohn 19:20 This title, therefore, read many of the Jews, because, near, was the place to the city where Jesus was crucified; ad it was written in Hebrew, in Latin, in Greek.
But you are right; some claim Jesus spoke Aramaic.
I bet most people spoke both Greek, and Aramaic, and in the case of the Jews - Hebrew, in the case of the Roman guards/governance - Latin.
If that region where "America" for example;
Greek was the English of the time, Aramaic the Spanish, Hebrew was well...pretty much Hebrew, and Latin was the legal jargon of the politicians :laughing7:
More numbers: http://shoppingworldonline.info/wedding-news/new-book-shows-powerful-evidence-that-the-bible-is-the-inspired-word-of-god-2
Many examples in this book review.
This review is from: Actual Proof of My Existence signed: God of the Bible (Paperback)
The book starts out by showing about 20 Psalms where the "key phrase" of a historical event (1900 - 2003 and beyond) occurs in the Psalm of the same number as the year of the event! There are so many of these that land right on the Psalm it's obvious that it was planned and correctly prophesied in the Bible. World War II events for 1944 also land on the Bible verse of the correct month according to D-day and May, June, July 1944. Psalm 44:5 (May 5th month) "Through thee will we push down our enemies" (a future tense here getting ready for D-day) Psalm 44:6 (June 6th month) "For I will not trust in my bow, neither shall my sword save me." (Big battle must trust in God June 6, 1944) Psalm 44:7 (July 7th month) "But thou hast saved us from our enemies" (we pushed them back "thou hast saved us"). Psalm 46 says "He makes wars to cease" and 1946 is the year after WWII. More events properly foretold in the Psalms are the Y2K problem, WTC attack, El nino, Saddam Hussein's month long Babylonian party in 1987 with Psalm 87 and a whole lot more. The book also shows how 23 science constant power numbers like 10^27 light, 10^38th power as gravity, all are described on the correct Psalm number like Psalm 27:1 "The Lord is my light" and 10^-27 power is a power number of light in science. Many of these science keys words like 'heavy' for gravity in Psalm 38 "heavy burden" shows up in 38 scriptures of the Bible and 10^-38 power is gravity in science! The 'speedy' electron is talked about in Psalm 31 and 10^-31 actually is the mass of the electron and the word speed, speedily, speeded, shows up in 31 scriptures of the Bible, incredible! This book has much, much more and is totally awesome, living up to it's title. There is so much "undeniable" evidence and proof of the Bible it's obvious to see it was all planned. This book is probably one of the best books ever written on the proof of God and the Bible. I liked the book because it's simple to understand, because basically all you are doing is matching simple whole numbers together to see how coded the Bible's verse numbers are. The "Ark of the Covenant" and "Tabernacle of Moses" equal all of the basic numbers of our science today. There are hundreds of scriptures in the book where the verse numbers equal the content of the verse. There are some real surprises and 'gems' from the Bible in this book. This book convicts the Bible of being the "inspired Word of God."
The "ACTUAL PROOF OF MY EXISTENCE" book has good numbers.
The Newtonian constant of gravitation over h-bar c has the number 39.
The Newtonian gravity constant from the "National Institute of Standards and Technology" (NIST) webpage has 10^39 for a power number.
John D. Barrow's book called "THE CONSTANTS OF NATURE" mentions 10^-38 power for `gravity' a number of times in the book.
The "QUANTUM PHYSICS" encyclopedia by John Gribbin has gravity at 10^-38 times weaker than the strong force.
It looks like the numbers in the power range (10^38 - 10^39) are good for gravity like Psalm 38:4 with the word "HEAVY" in it twice. The word "WEIGHT" (related to gravity) only appears 4 times in the NT, the first one is in John 19:(39) and chapter 19 is half of 38.
If you need the 10^42-10^43 range for gravity, Psalm (38 + verse 4) = 42 or 3 x 84 = 252 (42 x 6). Psalm 38:4 is also (3 + 84) = 87 (43.5 x 2). The word "HEAVY" only appears 7 times in the New Testament, one verse is Matthew 26:(43), another "HEAVY" word appears in 1 Kings 20:(43).
Regarding Psalm 31:2 and the word "SPEEDILY", `speed' can also refer to "LIGHT SPEED" which is about 186,000 miles per second, (186 is the base number) and 186 is a multiple of 31 (like Psalm 31), (31 x 6) = 186. The Psalms are the 19th book of the Bible making the full address for Psalm 31:2 (19312), 1 x 9 x 31 x 2 = 558 (186 x 3); also 1 x 93 x 12 = 1116 (186 x 6). All words with "SPEED" as the root word (speed, speedily etc.) appear 31 times in the KJV Bible (186 / 6) = 31. The first "SPEED" word in the Bible is in Genesis book #1, in Genesis 24:12, (12412) is the full Bible address with book #1, (124 x 12) = 1488 (186 x 8). The first "QUICKLY" word in the Bible is in Genesis 18:6, (186 are the numbers) like 186,000 miles per second QUICK (186 x 1000).
The mass of the electron is 9.109 x 10^-31, it starts with "9" as in (9.109), using the Psalm 31:2 numbers, (12 - 3) = "9" or (3 x 12) = 36 ("9" x 4).
"SPIN" would surely be related to the ELECTRON, because electrons `spin' around the atom, the word "SPIN" only appears 3 times in the KJV Bible (out of 31, 102 verses), one is in Matthew 6:28, we have verse 28 like 10^-28 grams (MASS of the ELECTRON) and 62 x 8 = 496 (31 x 16) with 31 like 10^-31 kilograms (MASS of the ELECTRON). Matthew 6:28 "And why take ye thought for raiment? Consider the lilies of the field, how they grow; they toil not, neither do they (SPIN)." Matthew 628 = (314 x 2) like PI (3.14), what we use to measure the circumference of a circle, or things SPINNING in a circle. Matthew 6:28 is also 62 - 8 = 54 ("9" x 6) with that "9 times" thing again as in 9.109 x 10^-28 grams, 54 itself is 5 + 4 = 9.
The "ACTUAL PROOF" book brings forth many more correct power numbers like these. Don't listen to those who would try to invalidate the book by using a few numbers of their own "out of context"; this book has many, many more correct scientific numbers and correct historical dates related to the Bible.
:cloud9: That is just awesome stuff. Thanks for your digging, WW. Interesting to note 38 is tied in with gravity. He showed me the weight of sin is as the law of gravity, and being set free from the law of sin and death results in a quickening, as I experienced in the Spirit. Amazing God, we give You praise.....Blessings....
I think I'm gonna order that book.I ordered that book.
Don't forget to click the link because it has far different content from what I quoted from Amazon.com (it far exceeds max. post size)
:cloud9: Ok, I'll check it out. Yeah, it looks like it would be worth the money to read it. Ever increasing truth is being released into the world.
Pertaining to the number 9: I see 9 fruits, 9 gifts, 9 parts of each candlestick branch. Was shown 9 = number of His love, in a dream.
I was watching a program on how Pi was discovered once, and right before they told what the next step was in his conclusion, plain as day, the Spirit spoke it to me.
I said, "Thanks Lord, but if You teach math, why didn't You help me with my most "hated" subject when I was in school?" :mshock: :icon_joker:
Read the first 58 pages here (http://books.google.nl/books?id=41iFGFYUU-kC&printsec=frontcover&dq=Actual+Proof+of+My+Existence+Signed:+God+of+the+Bible&source=bl&ots=yTAyGdcxCE&sig=0XwmgzDGp5qXXTZ-m5mdpWIE15o&hl=nl&ei=ZkWfTMXPJMiPOPPX-LQL&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=1&ved=0CBUQ6AEwAA#v=onepage&q&f=false)
Found a great one.
Truth = transition from death to life.
(http://capecodmikvah.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/04/mem.gif)
The numerical value forty, associated with Mem, then also represents the 40 days during which the embryo is formed.
(http://capecodmikvah.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/04/emes-300x112.gif)
"We see this most clearly in the word Emes itself. The first two letters, Aleph Mem, spelled out Em [Pronounced Aim], the Hebrew word for mother. This is the beginning of man. The last two letters Mem Tav, spell out Mes, the Hebrew word for death, the end of man [in a physical sense].
"Most important here, Mem represents the concept of transition and change. Aleph is the past, and Tav is the future, so Mem represents the transition from past to future.
Read the article. (http://capecodmikvah.com/mikvah/the-mystery-of-the-mikvah/)
7 is a palindrome 1.1.1-1-1.1.1 4th position being the center or mirror point
1 2 3 4 5 6 7
1+2+3+4=10
4+5+6+7=22
1+7=8
2+6=8
3+5=8 8+8+8+4=28=7x4
4
888, 4=christ, creation
He came on the fourth day-4000th year
Sun, moon and stars created on fourth day, sun=Son, moon=ecclesia, stars=sons of God? or nations/descendants of Abraham
3 categories of things created on the 4th day 3+4
3 resurrection, 4 creation =7 resurrection of creation=completion
4th section of the Bible in its true order is the gospels with 3 sections in old 3 in new 3-1-3
6 man +1 God=7 completion
1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 = number of OT books, number of Hebrew letters
1 2 3 4
1 2 3 4
1 2 3 4
1 2 3 4
1 2 3 4
1 2 3 4 7 sets of 1234=22 9 sets =28 1 x 4 x 7=28
1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22
1+4=5
5+7=12
12+10=22
22+13=35
35+16=51 (this is the only number I can't see significance to (ending here on the sixth number [16] leaves you with an unuseful number?)
51+19=70
1+4+7+10+13+16+19=70 there are seven numbers
1+4+7=12
Gen 47:28 Jacob lived in the land of Egypt seventeen years; the years of Jacob's life were 147 in all.
47 4 x 7=28
1 4 7 = 12
1234 Abraham 1, Isaac 2, Jacob 3, Israelites 4 (12 of them)
1234
1 Light 2 water above/water below 3 water/land
4 Lights 5 fish/ birds 6 beasts/ man
51 = experiencing or having a divine revelation?
37 = word of God
24 = priesthood
37x24=888=Jesus
:cloud9: So many amazing correlations numerically.....wow :thumbsup:
Hey WW I have got to ask since I have been told you are an athiest, just what is your purpose of gathering all the information that you do on the many things you do? Are you in pursuit of proof that may change your mind, are you trying to show that the Bible and God are foolish to follow?
You are an athiest who seems, at least to me, as a well read person of the Bible, why do you bother if you are an athiest? Or is your athiestism fragile? I find your information very informative but aint it all just a science to you? I mean all the numbers and years and the sites that you find, are you trying to build up the faith of the forum or is it maybe the Lord drawing you? I guess I should use a PM but I didnt.
After all the information that has been set forth by believers, do you question your stance? Do some of the posts cause you to consider God as real?
Quote from: micah7:9 on May 14, 2011, 07:02:52 AM
Hey WW I have got to ask since I have been told you are an atheist, just what is your purpose of gathering all the information that you do on the many things you do? Are you in pursuit of proof that may change your mind, are you trying to show that the Bible and God are foolish to follow?
If I would I wouldn't have been silent about it for 8500 posts. The closed in that direction is that I'm critical. That's just me. I'm no following sheep. I have lots of distrust in about everything and anyone.
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If I would be I would post that info at a atheism blog. But I won't because most atheists have a one track mind. They are very much like many Christians. They don't truly seek. They just attack and defend positions without checking the info.
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If it would it wouldn't be on an UR forum. It would be on a ET forum because that's truly satanic. UR and ET both may be nonsense (because it's religion). But at least UR gives happy thoughts. So I rather would spend my time debunking teachings that give people nightmares.
QuoteYou are an atheist who seems, at least to me, as a well read person of the Bible,
Read some atheist sites. Atheists often know (much) more about the Bible than Christians who basically just have one answer: Because the Bible/pastor says so.
Quotewhy do you bother if you are an atheist?
I got trapped in a riddle. The dating of Jesus' life. Truly figuring that involved much much much more that many people even have a clue about.
QuoteOr is your athiestism fragile?
Increasingly.
QuoteI find your information very informative but aint it all just a science to you?
Statistics is one of the pillars of science. What are the changes all those number riddles can be in the Bible? What's the chance it can even span thousands of years. List goes on. If that chance grows above a certain number science calls it a fact. (simply speaking.
Is that religion? Compare it to sex with your wife and sex with a prostitute.
It's both sex (statistics) that leads to the same point.
But is it the same...
QuoteI mean all the numbers and years and the sites that you find, are you trying to build up the faith of the forum
:laughing7: If it would be my task to build the faith of the forum it wouldn't deserve the label of a religious forum.
Quoteor is it maybe the Lord drawing you?
Maybe He is. He needs a bigger tow-truck. :icon_jokercolor:
QuoteAfter all the information that has been set forth by believers, do you question your stance? Do some of the posts cause you to consider God as real?
Almost all of my posts.
good questions micah, and and some very good answers, wings
I also noticed (generally speaking) that ETs only have one topic. Death (hell)
UR teachers speak about history, Jewish society and customs, prophetic meaning of names, parables, patterns etc etc.
ETs main goal seems to prove hell.
Nagging about pitch black verses and even darker concepts. The search for darkens is far more important that the search for happiness.
Parables are only used to pronounce doom.
And in the rare occasion they look into patterns, again the aim is finding death and destruction.
It makes me think about the man that had a session with a psychiatrist for his sexual obsession.
The psychiatrist showed him dozens of cards with ink blots on them. You know the things that basically look like nothing but sometimes look a little like a flower or bird.
According to the man each picture showed breasts. So the psychiatrist told the man that he was clearly obsessed with breasts.
The man answered: No you are!; showing me dozens of pictures of breasts.
:winkgrin:
1. Unity, Primacy
2. Division
3. Divine Perfection or Completeness
4. Fullness of Creation, the World
5. Grace, God's Goodness
6. Man, Man's Wisdom and Labor
7. Spiritual Perfection
8. New Birth, New Creation, New Beginnings
9. Judgment; as 3 x 3, it signifies the Gifts and Fruits of the Spirit
10. Fullness of Law and Responsibility
11. Disorder, Disintegration
12. Divine Government
13. Depravity and Rebellion
14. Deliverance, Salvation
15. Rest
16. Love
17. Victory
18. Bondage
19. Faith
20. Redemption
21. Exceeding Sinfulness of Sin
22. Light
23. Death
24. Priesthood
25. Forgiveness of Sins
26. Gospel of Christ
27. Preaching the Gospel
28. Eternal Life
29. Departure
30. Blood of Christ, Dedication, Spiritual Maturity
31. Offspring
32. Covenant
33. Promise
34. Naming of a Son
35. Hope
36. Enemy
37. Jesus, as The Word of God
38. Slavery
39. Disease, Infirmity, Weakness
40. Trials, Probation, Testings
42. Man's Opposition to God, Antichrist
45. Preservation
46. Herod's Temple, Man Without the Holy Spirit
49. Jubilee
50. Holy Spirit, Pentecost, Jubilee
51. Divine Revelation; Peace
52. Building Wall around Jerusalem
60. Pride
65. Apostasy
66. Idol Worship
70. Universality, Restoration of All Things
76. Cleansing or Blotting Out
100. God's Election of Grace, Children of Promise
119. The Call to Resurrection (yet falling short)
120. Probationary Period Awaiting the Outpouring of the Holy Spirit
144. The First Resurrection saints
153. The Sons of God
200. Insufficiency
210. Time of Jacob's Trouble (see 21)
220. Light (see 22)
276. The Flesh, Satan, Babylon
390. No King in Israel (see 39)
414. Cursed Time
434. Judged Time
490. Blessed Time (see 49)
600. Warfare in the World (see 60)
666. Man's Authority Over God's Creation
888. Fullness of Christ's Body
1000. Glory of God, Completeness
49000. Creation's Jubilee
:cloud9: Some of the things that WW brings to the board are priceless to those who "find" them. His diligence to search puts a lot of Christians to shame, including me. It has been obvious (to me at least) that God is using him mightily to thresh the wheat since he got here. I'm so glad God judges the heart of men. Blessings....
I hope you are aware it was just a copy and paste job....
37: number of times the word Kowbab [star in Heb] appears
24: number of times the word Aster [star in Greek] appears
37 x 24 = 888
I wonder if we can just multiply any number and learn from it.
My first soart random test sounds plausible...
3. Divine Perfection or Completeness
40. Trials, Probation, Testings
120. Probationary Period Awaiting the Outpouring of the Holy Spirit
3x40=120
There are many other combinations. But I'm not sure they are Biblically valid.
For example:
2x20=40
2x23=46
10x100=1000
10x49=490
etc
The number 301 is interesting in itself, for it appears everywhere on the day Jesus was crucified to redeem the world. Calvary is from the Greek word kranion, whose numeric value is 301. He was the Lamb of God. "Lambs" in Hebrew has a numeric value of 301. The lunar eclipse that day began precisely at 3:01 p.m. when He died. The Greek word for moon is selene (301).
301 is in the 1234 pattern, which shall now be described as: 3x+1. I promise I'm not at "A Beautiful Mind" level with seeing this pattern... yet
As a follow-up to post #71 I made a little program to find all possible combinations.
I didn't check out the results yet but my aim (as a group) is to figure out if multiplied numbers give a result that makes sense.
2 x 2 = 4
2 x 3 = 6
2 x 4 = 8
2 x 5 = 10
2 x 6 = 12
2 x 7 = 14
2 x 8 = 16
2 x 9 = 18
2 x 10 = 20
2 x 11 = 22
2 x 12 = 24
2 x 13 = 26
2 x 14 = 28
2 x 15 = 30
2 x 16 = 32
2 x 17 = 34
2 x 18 = 36
2 x 19 = 38
2 x 20 = 40
2 x 21 = 42
2 x 23 = 46
2 x 25 = 50
2 x 26 = 52
2 x 30 = 60
2 x 33 = 66
2 x 35 = 70
2 x 38 = 76
2 x 50 = 100
2 x 60 = 120
2 x 100 = 200
3 x 3 = 9
3 x 4 = 12
3 x 5 = 15
3 x 6 = 18
3 x 7 = 21
3 x 8 = 24
3 x 9 = 27
3 x 10 = 30
3 x 11 = 33
3 x 12 = 36
3 x 13 = 39
3 x 14 = 42
3 x 15 = 45
3 x 17 = 51
3 x 20 = 60
3 x 22 = 66
3 x 40 = 120
3 x 51 = 153
3 x 70 = 210
3 x 200 = 600
4 x 4 = 16
4 x 5 = 20
4 x 6 = 24
4 x 7 = 28
4 x 8 = 32
4 x 9 = 36
4 x 10 = 40
4 x 13 = 52
4 x 15 = 60
4 x 19 = 76
4 x 25 = 100
4 x 30 = 120
4 x 36 = 144
4 x 50 = 200
5 x 5 = 25
5 x 6 = 30
5 x 7 = 35
5 x 8 = 40
5 x 9 = 45
5 x 10 = 50
5 x 12 = 60
5 x 13 = 65
5 x 14 = 70
5 x 20 = 100
5 x 24 = 120
5 x 40 = 200
5 x 42 = 210
5 x 120 = 600
5 x 200 = 1000
6 x 6 = 36
6 x 7 = 42
6 x 10 = 60
6 x 11 = 66
6 x 20 = 120
6 x 24 = 144
6 x 35 = 210
6 x 46 = 276
6 x 65 = 390
6 x 100 = 600
7 x 7 = 49
7 x 10 = 70
7 x 17 = 119
7 x 30 = 210
7 x 70 = 490
8 x 15 = 120
8 x 18 = 144
8 x 25 = 200
9 x 16 = 144
9 x 17 = 153
9 x 46 = 414
10 x 10 = 100
10 x 12 = 120
10 x 20 = 200
10 x 21 = 210
10 x 22 = 220
10 x 39 = 390
10 x 49 = 490
10 x 60 = 600
10 x 100 = 1000
11 x 20 = 220
12 x 12 = 144
12 x 23 = 276
12 x 50 = 600
13 x 30 = 390
14 x 15 = 210
14 x 31 = 434
14 x 35 = 490
15 x 26 = 390
15 x 40 = 600
18 x 23 = 414
18 x 37 = 666
20 x 30 = 600
20 x 50 = 1000
24 x 25 = 600
24 x 37 = 888
25 x 40 = 1000
49 x 1000 = 49000
100 x 490 = 49000
Quote from: WhiteWings
If I would I wouldn't have been silent about it for 8500 posts. The closed in that direction is that I'm critical. That's just me. I'm no following sheep. I have lots of distrust in about everything and anyone.
Hi ww,
I just read this, don't know how I missed reading it.
I am like this also. I find it hard to trust people and I question everything, even my own reasonings at times. I think that is a good thing. I use to be different until I was almost brained washed by a certain organization. I have had to change my mind on many things that I use to believe. I have noticed on some forums that some posters tend to look to one person for the truth but I read everything and anything I can get my hands on. Truth comes from many different sources, of course God is the giver of all truth but I don't think he uses one person to give it to. SORRY, BACK ON TOPIC.
CHB
Quote from: WhiteWings on May 14, 2011, 06:52:49 PM
I hope you are aware it was just a copy and paste job....
:cloud9: Of course, but digging is digging, even to finding reference materials or articles.
Quote from: WhiteWings on May 14, 2011, 11:41:32 PM
I wonder if we can just multiply any number and learn from it.
My first soart random test sounds plausible...
3. Divine Perfection or Completeness
40. Trials, Probation, Testings
120. Probationary Period Awaiting the Outpouring of the Holy Spirit
3x40=120
There are many other combinations. But I'm not sure they are Biblically valid.
For example:
2x20=40
2x23=46
10x100=1000
10x49=490
etc
:cloud9: Could be wrong, but I'm thinking that 490 is the number of years the Israelites were in judgment somewhere in there......
True or not Cardinal all those historical events are just there to establish solid symbolic.
Sadly people don't seem to care to look at that. They only see depth less number games in the "Secrets of time" thread. And simply get triggered by the title of a post without reading what's about. :winkgrin:
Jubilee = releasing from bondage.
10 is fullness.
Then it's not hard to imagine that 10x49 is something big.
Again take a lot of care when using my little list. It's just computer generated.
Don't be surprised if you find stuff like war x sin = HS
It's just that multiplying 2 holy numbers gives another holy concept.
I just wondered if that's true with all possible combinations.
That basically means we have to discuss each forumula...
Take for example this verse:
ACVJohn 21
11 Simon Peter went up, and drew the net to land, full of great fishes, a hundred and fifty-three. And being so many, the net was not broken.
What's the use of mentioning 153. Isn't mentioning that the net was so full that it almost burst enough?
ACVJohn 21
8 And the other disciples came in the skiff (for they were not far from the land, but about two hundred cubits off), dragging the net of the fishes.
Why mentioning 200 cubits (300ft, 91.44m)? Isn't "in the distance" detailed enough?
I'm con viced that anyone that doesn't know why those numbers are mentioned, doesn't fully understand that verse or a verse elsewhere in the Bible. Note that I'm not saying that someone who figured out a number understands the verse better that someone else. There are layers. The number game is just one layer. Not the only layer. But like in this verse I think it can at least be used to verify translation errors.
The numerical value of the Greek word for "fishes" is 1224 = 153 x 8 (John 21:8)
The numerical value of the Greek word for "net" is also 1224 = 153 x 8 (John 21:11)
In Greek the word order is different than in the English translations.
"drew the net to land, full of fishes" = 153 x 31
"of great a hundred and fifty three" = 153 x 23
"Fishers of men" = 153 x 14 (Mark 1:17)
There are 2 spellings for the word "fishes" in Greek.
One has the above mentioned value of 153 x 8 = 1224.
The other spelling has a value of 170 x 11 = 1870
The funny thing is that in every fishing related verse 153 and 170 pops up.
What's the use of the above? I don't know. Besides it's funny it doesn't give me a deeper understanding of the verses. But it's a bit of extra proof for divinity. That's worth something too I guess.
I can also imagine the following situation. A heated debate on some subject. For example salvation. After a lot of arguments and counter arguments some fishes verses seem to hold the key to the debate. Unfortunately the 2 different Bibles the opponents swear by translate the verse slightly different and nothing is solved. Eventually only the Greek can answer the correctness of translation. But there are different Greek manuscripts too. I believe that the inspired one can be spotted with the above numbers....
But then; I'm just a number geek :laughing7:
2 Division x 3 Divine Perfection or Completeness = 6 Man, Man's Wisdom and Labor
2 Division x 4 Fullness of Creation, the World = 8 New Birth, New Creation, New Beginnings
2 Division x 5 Grace, God's Goodness = 10 Fullness of Law and Responsibility
2 Division x 6 Man, Man's Wisdom and Labor = 12 Divine Government
2 Division x 7 Spiritual Perfection = 14 Deliverance, Salvation
2 Division x 8 New Birth, New Creation, New Beginnings = 16 Love
2 Division x 9 Judgment; as 3 x 3, it signifies the Gifts and Fruits of the Spirit = 18 Bondage
2 Division x 10 Fullness of Law and Responsibility = 20 Redemption
2 Division x 11 Disorder, Disintegration = 22 Light
2 Division x 12 Divine Government = 24 Priesthood
2 Division x 13 Depravity and Rebellion = 26 Gospel of Christ
2 Division x 14 Deliverance, Salvation = 28 Eternal Life
2 Division x 15 Rest = 30 Blood of Christ, Dedication, Spiritual Maturity
2 Division x 16 Love = 32 Covenant
2 Division x 17 Victory = 34 Naming of a Son
2 Division x 18 Bondage = 36 Enemy
2 Division x 19 Faith = 38 Slavery
2 Division x 20 Redemption = 40 Trials, Probation, Testings
2 Division x 21 Exceeding Sinfulness of Sin = 42 Man's Opposition to God, Antichrist
2 Division x 23 Death = 46 Herod's Temple, Man Without the Holy Spirit
2 Division x 25 Forgiveness of Sins = 50 Holy Spirit, Pentecost, Jubilee
2 Division x 26 Gospel of Christ = 52 Building Wall around Jerusalem
2 Division x 30 Blood of Christ, Dedication, Spiritual Maturity = 60 Pride
2 Division x 33 Promise = 66 Idol Worship
2 Division x 35 Hope = 70 Universality, Restoration of All Things
2 Division x 38 Slavery = 76 Cleansing or Blotting Out
2 Division x 50 Holy Spirit, Pentecost, Jubilee = 100 God's Election of Grace, Children of Promise
2 Division x 60 Pride = 120 Probationary Period Awaiting the Outpouring of the Holy Spirit
2 Division x 100 God's Election of Grace, Children of Promise = 200 Insufficiency
3 Divine Perfection or Completeness x 4 Fullness of Creation, the World = 12 Divine Government
3 Divine Perfection or Completeness x 5 Grace, God's Goodness = 15 Rest
3 Divine Perfection or Completeness x 6 Man, Man's Wisdom and Labor = 18 Bondage
3 Divine Perfection or Completeness x 7 Spiritual Perfection = 21 Exceeding Sinfulness of Sin
3 Divine Perfection or Completeness x 8 New Birth, New Creation, New Beginnings = 24 Priesthood
3 Divine Perfection or Completeness x 9 Judgment; as 3 x 3, it signifies the Gifts and Fruits of the Spirit = 27 Preaching the Gospel
3 Divine Perfection or Completeness x 10 Fullness of Law and Responsibility = 30 Blood of Christ, Dedication, Spiritual Maturity
3 Divine Perfection or Completeness x 11 Disorder, Disintegration = 33 Promise
3 Divine Perfection or Completeness x 12 Divine Government = 36 Enemy
3 Divine Perfection or Completeness x 13 Depravity and Rebellion = 39 Disease, Infirmity, Weakness
3 Divine Perfection or Completeness x 14 Deliverance, Salvation = 42 Man's Opposition to God, Antichrist
3 Divine Perfection or Completeness x 15 Rest = 45 Preservation
3 Divine Perfection or Completeness x 17 Victory = 51 Divine Revelation; Peace
3 Divine Perfection or Completeness x 20 Redemption = 60 Pride
3 Divine Perfection or Completeness x 22 Light = 66 Idol Worship
3 Divine Perfection or Completeness x 40 Trials, Probation, Testings = 120 Probationary Period Awaiting the Outpouring of the Holy Spirit
3 Divine Perfection or Completeness x 51 Divine Revelation; Peace = 153 The Sons of God
3 Divine Perfection or Completeness x 70 Universality, Restoration of All Things = 210 Time of Jacob's Trouble (see 21)
3 Divine Perfection or Completeness x 200 Insufficiency = 600 Warfare in the World (see 60)
4 Fullness of Creation, the World x 5 Grace, God's Goodness = 20 Redemption
4 Fullness of Creation, the World x 6 Man, Man's Wisdom and Labor = 24 Priesthood
4 Fullness of Creation, the World x 7 Spiritual Perfection = 28 Eternal Life
4 Fullness of Creation, the World x 8 New Birth, New Creation, New Beginnings = 32 Covenant
4 Fullness of Creation, the World x 9 Judgment; as 3 x 3, it signifies the Gifts and Fruits of the Spirit = 36 Enemy
4 Fullness of Creation, the World x 10 Fullness of Law and Responsibility = 40 Trials, Probation, Testings
4 Fullness of Creation, the World x 13 Depravity and Rebellion = 52 Building Wall around Jerusalem
4 Fullness of Creation, the World x 15 Rest = 60 Pride
4 Fullness of Creation, the World x 19 Faith = 76 Cleansing or Blotting Out
4 Fullness of Creation, the World x 25 Forgiveness of Sins = 100 God's Election of Grace, Children of Promise
4 Fullness of Creation, the World x 30 Blood of Christ, Dedication, Spiritual Maturity = 120 Probationary Period Awaiting the Outpouring of the Holy Spirit
4 Fullness of Creation, the World x 36 Enemy = 144 The First Resurrection saints
4 Fullness of Creation, the World x 50 Holy Spirit, Pentecost, Jubilee = 200 Insufficiency
5 Grace, God's Goodness x 6 Man, Man's Wisdom and Labor = 30 Blood of Christ, Dedication, Spiritual Maturity
5 Grace, God's Goodness x 7 Spiritual Perfection = 35 Hope
5 Grace, God's Goodness x 8 New Birth, New Creation, New Beginnings = 40 Trials, Probation, Testings
5 Grace, God's Goodness x 9 Judgment; as 3 x 3, it signifies the Gifts and Fruits of the Spirit = 45 Preservation
5 Grace, God's Goodness x 10 Fullness of Law and Responsibility = 50 Holy Spirit, Pentecost, Jubilee
5 Grace, God's Goodness x 12 Divine Government = 60 Pride
5 Grace, God's Goodness x 13 Depravity and Rebellion = 65 Apostasy
5 Grace, God's Goodness x 14 Deliverance, Salvation = 70 Universality, Restoration of All Things
5 Grace, God's Goodness x 20 Redemption = 100 God's Election of Grace, Children of Promise
5 Grace, God's Goodness x 24 Priesthood = 120 Probationary Period Awaiting the Outpouring of the Holy Spirit
5 Grace, God's Goodness x 40 Trials, Probation, Testings = 200 Insufficiency
5 Grace, God's Goodness x 42 Man's Opposition to God, Antichrist = 210 Time of Jacob's Trouble (see 21)
5 Grace, God's Goodness x 120 Probationary Period Awaiting the Outpouring of the Holy Spirit = 600 Warfare in the World (see 60)
5 Grace, God's Goodness x 200 Insufficiency = 1000 Glory of God, Completeness
6 Man, Man's Wisdom and Labor x 7 Spiritual Perfection = 42 Man's Opposition to God, Antichrist
6 Man, Man's Wisdom and Labor x 10 Fullness of Law and Responsibility = 60 Pride
6 Man, Man's Wisdom and Labor x 11 Disorder, Disintegration = 66 Idol Worship
6 Man, Man's Wisdom and Labor x 20 Redemption = 120 Probationary Period Awaiting the Outpouring of the Holy Spirit
6 Man, Man's Wisdom and Labor x 24 Priesthood = 144 The First Resurrection saints
6 Man, Man's Wisdom and Labor x 35 Hope = 210 Time of Jacob's Trouble (see 21)
6 Man, Man's Wisdom and Labor x 46 Herod's Temple, Man Without the Holy Spirit = 276 The Flesh, Satan, Babylon
6 Man, Man's Wisdom and Labor x 65 Apostasy = 390 No King in Israel (see 39)
6 Man, Man's Wisdom and Labor x 100 God's Election of Grace, Children of Promise = 600 Warfare in the World (see 60)
7 Spiritual Perfection x 10 Fullness of Law and Responsibility = 70 Universality, Restoration of All Things
7 Spiritual Perfection x 17 Victory = 119 The Call to Resurrection (yet falling short)
7 Spiritual Perfection x 30 Blood of Christ, Dedication, Spiritual Maturity = 210 Time of Jacob's Trouble (see 21)
7 Spiritual Perfection x 70 Universality, Restoration of All Things = 490 Blessed Time (see 49)
8 New Birth, New Creation, New Beginnings x 15 Rest = 120 Probationary Period Awaiting the Outpouring of the Holy Spirit
8 New Birth, New Creation, New Beginnings x 18 Bondage = 144 The First Resurrection saints
8 New Birth, New Creation, New Beginnings x 25 Forgiveness of Sins = 200 Insufficiency
9 Judgment; as 3 x 3, it signifies the Gifts and Fruits of the Spirit x 16 Love = 144 The First Resurrection saints
9 Judgment; as 3 x 3, it signifies the Gifts and Fruits of the Spirit x 17 Victory = 153 The Sons of God
9 Judgment; as 3 x 3, it signifies the Gifts and Fruits of the Spirit x 46 Herod's Temple, Man Without the Holy Spirit = 414 Cursed Time
10 Fullness of Law and Responsibility x 12 Divine Government = 120 Probationary Period Awaiting the Outpouring of the Holy Spirit
10 Fullness of Law and Responsibility x 20 Redemption = 200 Insufficiency
10 Fullness of Law and Responsibility x 21 Exceeding Sinfulness of Sin = 210 Time of Jacob's Trouble (see 21)
10 Fullness of Law and Responsibility x 22 Light = 220 Light (see 22)
10 Fullness of Law and Responsibility x 39 Disease, Infirmity, Weakness = 390 No King in Israel (see 39)
10 Fullness of Law and Responsibility x 49 Jubilee = 490 Blessed Time (see 49)
10 Fullness of Law and Responsibility x 60 Pride = 600 Warfare in the World (see 60)
10 Fullness of Law and Responsibility x 100 God's Election of Grace, Children of Promise = 1000 Glory of God, Completeness
11 Disorder, Disintegration x 20 Redemption = 220 Light (see 22)
12 Divine Government x 23 Death = 276 The Flesh, Satan, Babylon
12 Divine Government x 50 Holy Spirit, Pentecost, Jubilee = 600 Warfare in the World (see 60)
13 Depravity and Rebellion x 30 Blood of Christ, Dedication, Spiritual Maturity = 390 No King in Israel (see 39)
14 Deliverance, Salvation x 15 Rest = 210 Time of Jacob's Trouble (see 21)
14 Deliverance, Salvation x 31 Offspring = 434 Judged Time
14 Deliverance, Salvation x 35 Hope = 490 Blessed Time (see 49)
15 Rest x 26 Gospel of Christ = 390 No King in Israel (see 39)
15 Rest x 40 Trials, Probation, Testings = 600 Warfare in the World (see 60)
18 Bondage x 23 Death = 414 Cursed Time
18 Bondage x 37 Jesus, as The Word of God = 666 Man's Authority Over God's Creation
20 Redemption x 30 Blood of Christ, Dedication, Spiritual Maturity = 600 Warfare in the World (see 60)
20 Redemption x 50 Holy Spirit, Pentecost, Jubilee = 1000 Glory of God, Completeness
24 Priesthood x 25 Forgiveness of Sins = 600 Warfare in the World (see 60)
24 Priesthood x 37 Jesus, as The Word of God = 888 Fullness of Christ's Body
25 Forgiveness of Sins x 40 Trials, Probation, Testings = 1000 Glory of God, Completeness
49 Jubilee x 1000 Glory of God, Completeness = 4900 CREATION's Jubilee
100 God's Election of Grace, Children of Promise x 490 Blessed Time (see 49) = 49000 CREATION's Jubilee
:cloud9: It does point to perfection (the numerical "signs"), just like the meaning of the names did for me when I first noticed them, 25 years ago as a young Christian. To me it's a faith builder for those young in the faith, because such things DO build your faith (it did mine) towards Him and the undeniable fact that the scriptures are inspired by a non-human source.
God created numbers; they are a portion of something that in this realm only is able to be portioned in the first place: HIS Spirit. He fragmented Himself and lowered Himself into His creation.
So the creation has to mirror some aspect of Himself, and since His plan for the ages is part of Him (how do you seperate what He says from what He is?) as it came out of Him, then it can only be that numbers "speak" something of Him and His plan. Blessings....
153 is also 3 x 51
what does 51 mean?
Peter went up to where Jesus is where He fed them, that was the third time he revealed himself to them. They dragged (as in I will draw all men to myself) 153 fish, but he had told them they would be fishers of men, right after this is when He restores Peter, and asks him 3 times to tend His sheep.
153 men go up on a mountain to retrieve Elijah who is a prophet to recieve a [THE] word from God.
2 Kings 1, Elijah is up on the mountain and doesn't want to come down because he is afraid of his life. a captain 1 + guard 50 are sent to get him
first two 51's go demand he come down and he calls fire down from heaven on them. 3rd captain humbles himself, and Elijah comes down.
psalm 102 102:1 O Lord, hear my prayer!
Pay attention to my cry for help! 2
102:2 Do not ignore me in my time of trouble! 3
Listen to me! 4
When I call out to you, quickly answer me!
102:3 For my days go up in smoke, 5
and my bones are charred like a fireplace. 6
102=51 x 2 = first 2 sets of 51 that were burned. They demanded he come down, third humbled and begged
51st psalm is after David went to Bathsheeba
51:16 Certainly 42 you do not want a sacrifice, or else I would offer it; 43
you do not desire a burnt sacrifice. 44
51:17 The sacrifices God desires are a humble spirit 45 –
O God, a humble and repentant heart 46 you will not reject. 47
Quote from: redhotmagma on May 17, 2011, 04:42:59 PM
153 is also 3 x 51
what does 51 mean?
According to reply #71
51. Divine Revelation; Peace
Quote from: Cardinal on May 17, 2011, 04:01:58 PM:cloud9: It does point to perfection (the numerical "signs"), just like the meaning of the names did for me when I first noticed them, 25 years ago as a young Christian. To me it's a faith builder for those young in the faith,
And now? The numbers changed from faith builders into road signs to hidden gems? I guess your answer is yes.
Quote from: WhiteWings on May 17, 2011, 05:13:20 PM
Quote from: redhotmagma on May 17, 2011, 04:42:59 PM
153 is also 3 x 51
what does 51 mean?
According to reply #71
51. Divine Revelation; Peace
http://www.biblestudy.org/bibleref/meaning-of-numbers-in-bible/50.html
The Number Fifty-One
This is the number of Divine revelation,
for there are 24 books in the Old Testament,
and 27 books in the New Testament,
making 51 in all.
This is, of course, reckoning the Divine separation of the books, as exhibited in the MSS, which form our only authority, and not reckoning according to man's manipulation of them; for both Jewish and Gentile fancies and reasonings make quite a different and conflicting number.
I wasn't hanging my hat on that interpretation of 51 since, 49 books seems to be the proper configuration. Although I haven't really researched it beyond askelm and a little reading on the bible in its original order.
I haven't seen any other reference to 51 being divine revelation.
:cloud9: I can see 50 as being the number of the church, ie. Pentecost, plus 1 being Him. :dontknow:
Could be but adding numbers is tricky business as the following example shows.
1. Unity, Primacy
2. Division
3. Divine Perfection or Completeness
1 + 2 = 3 ???
How can adding division create perfection?
QuoteHow can adding division create perfection?
It's the way every biological organism works. Ask a baby.
Why wouldn't a spiritual organism be the same?
But, if there are no boundaries [the Law], you get cancer.
QuoteAsk a baby.
Ba ba boee :)
If I read division I read a divided kingdom can not stand.
Quote from: WhiteWings on May 17, 2011, 07:18:44 PM
QuoteAsk a baby.
Ba ba boee :)
If I read division I read a divided kingdom can not stand.
Division in the sense of increase, not enmity, as in the dividing of a cell or the planting of a seed.
Ah! Ok.
1+2+3+4=10
I'm wondering if it's right to play number games and assume they have Biblical value.
Quote from: WhiteWings on May 17, 2011, 07:38:19 PM
Ah! Ok.
1+2+3+4=10
I'm wondering if it's right to play number games and assume they have Biblical value.
It's a type of magic. And magic is forbidden.
The magicians love their numbers: 911, 11/22, 7/7...
Quote from: Molly on May 17, 2011, 07:42:35 PM
Quote from: WhiteWings on May 17, 2011, 07:38:19 PM
Ah! Ok.
1+2+3+4=10
I'm wondering if it's right to play number games and assume they have Biblical value.
It's a type of magic. And magic is forbidden.
Why is 1+2=3 Biblical and 1+2+3+4=10 magic?
QuoteThe magicians love their numbers: 911, 11/22, 7/7...
And Christians love an even bigger list (post 71)
:cloud9: Numerology is a type of magic, and is the counterfeit for what God has shown thru numbers.....
I understand/know.
But for me it's not clear when Bible approved usage turns into magic.
I truly don't understand why 1+2 is allowed but 1+2+3 not.
:cloud9: I guess I don't understand your question..... :dontknow:
a] Give me an example of allowed use of numbers.
b] Give me an example of magical use of numbers.
c] Explain what's the difference. --> Just saying God did forbid it isn't an acceptable answer because then I still don't know how to spot the difference.
:cloud9: Ok, numerology is a black arts form of witchcraft, wherein the user takes the person's name and birthdate and prepares a "chart" from it, to describe the person's life history, as well as predict their future.
It's similar to astrology, just a different method. And it's evil because, 1) only God knows the end from the beginning, and 2) it's not looking to HIM as the source of direction and counsel. And once in agreement with these types of activities, entities behind the particular "art", have a legal right to go forth and BRING ABOUT, whatever was "predicted", and they can and DO.
The core essence of witchcraft is self-will/governing. And a surprising number of things fall into that category, besides the obvious like these two things I just discussed. Blessings....
Quote from: CardinalAnd once in agreement with these types of activities, entities behind the particular "art", have a legal right to go forth and BRING ABOUT, whatever was "predicted", and they can and DO.
Yikes. So that's how they do it. Some of these people are uncanny in predicting the future. Then you are saying if we looked to God instead of demons, the future might be different?
I think it is kind of like miracles. the miracles that the magicians did in front of Pharaoh and Moses was considered witchcraft but the miracles that Moses did was from God. Seems to me it is the intention or use behind these things that determine whether they be black magic/witchcraft or spiritual, not the numbers, or miracles.
CHB
That's clear Cardinal. I sorta knew that already. It's a bit of an extreme example. But it still doesn't explain where the border is that I shouldn't pass.
Quote from: Molly on May 17, 2011, 07:42:35 PM
Quote from: WhiteWings on May 17, 2011, 07:38:19 PM
Ah! Ok.
1+2+3+4=10
I'm wondering if it's right to play number games and assume they have Biblical value.
It's a type of magic. And magic is forbidden.
The magicians love their numbers: 911, 11/22, 7/7...
You seemed to agree with Molly's quote.
I still don't understand why.
I'm just adding a few number. No birthdates, names, color of the hair or whatever else.
Just a some numbers from a Biblically approved (I think) list.
:dontknow:
Quote from: CHB on May 17, 2011, 08:47:06 PM
I think it is kind of like miracles. the miracles that the magicians did in front of Pharaoh and Moses was considered witchcraft but the miracles that Moses did was from God. Seems to me it is the intention or use behind these things that determine whether they be black magic/witchcraft or spiritual, not the numbers, or miracles.
CHB
It's the source.
Quote from: CHB on May 17, 2011, 08:47:06 PM
I think it is kind of like miracles. the miracles that the magicians did in front of Pharaoh and Moses was considered witchcraft but the miracles that Moses did was from God. Seems to me it is the intention or use behind these things that determine whether they be black magic/witchcraft or spiritual, not the numbers, or miracles.
So if the witch of Endor warns me not to take flight KL256 because the plane is gonna crash it's a good thing?
It's postive to warn someone for danger. But getting that info via witchcraft....
Quote from: WhiteWings on May 17, 2011, 08:47:52 PM
That's clear Cardinal. I sorta knew that already. It's a bit of an extreme example. But it still doesn't explain where the border is that I shouldn't pass.
Quote from: Molly on May 17, 2011, 07:42:35 PM
Quote from: WhiteWings on May 17, 2011, 07:38:19 PM
Ah! Ok.
1+2+3+4=10
I'm wondering if it's right to play number games and assume they have Biblical value.
It's a type of magic. And magic is forbidden.
The magicians love their numbers: 911, 11/22, 7/7...
You seemed to agree with Molly's quote.
I still don't understand why.
I'm just adding a few number. No birthdates, names, color of the hair or whatever else.
Just a some numbers from a Biblically approved (I think) list.
:dontknow:
The Holy Spirit will show you. Maybe even after the fact.
Ask God for guidance--and protection.
Quote from: WhiteWings on May 17, 2011, 08:51:46 PM
Quote from: CHB on May 17, 2011, 08:47:06 PM
I think it is kind of like miracles. the miracles that the magicians did in front of Pharaoh and Moses was considered witchcraft but the miracles that Moses did was from God. Seems to me it is the intention or use behind these things that determine whether they be black magic/witchcraft or spiritual, not the numbers, or miracles.
So if the witch of Endor warns me not to take flight KL256 because the plane is gonna crash it's a good thing?
It's postive to warn someone for danger. But getting that info via witchcraft....
Perhaps you were supposed to save some of the people on the aircraft as God intented, but the witch gets you to save yourself.
:2c:
Quote from: thinktank on May 17, 2011, 10:03:36 PM
Quote from: WhiteWings on May 17, 2011, 08:51:46 PM
Quote from: CHB on May 17, 2011, 08:47:06 PM
I think it is kind of like miracles. the miracles that the magicians did in front of Pharaoh and Moses was considered witchcraft but the miracles that Moses did was from God. Seems to me it is the intention or use behind these things that determine whether they be black magic/witchcraft or spiritual, not the numbers, or miracles.
So if the witch of Endor warns me not to take flight KL256 because the plane is gonna crash it's a good thing?
It's postive to warn someone for danger. But getting that info via witchcraft....
Perhaps you were supposed to save some of the people on the aircraft as God intented, but the witch gets you to save yourself.
:2c:
Good points.
:cloud9: I don't think you have anything to worry about WW......you're getting your numbers out of His book and aligning it with scripture; not at all the same thing they do.
@ Molly....they are "uncanny" because a demon is supplying them with the information. It's a clear mimic, because the first thing they usually come up with to "hook" them is, something personal. A familiar spirit gives them that.
With God's Spirit, the first gift mentioned (and utilized) in the speaking gifts is word of knowledge, which He does to build up their faith to receive that it is Him speaking to them thru someone in His body. Word of knowledge is also personal, but usually on a level that ONLY the person and God could know.
The soul of man is so hungry for the spiritual manifestations of God, that it will latch onto the counterfeits unknowingly. And then begins a world of trouble......
Quote from: WhiteWings on May 17, 2011, 08:51:46 PM
Quote from: CHB on May 17, 2011, 08:47:06 PM
I think it is kind of like miracles. the miracles that the magicians did in front of Pharaoh and Moses was considered witchcraft but the miracles that Moses did was from God. Seems to me it is the intention or use behind these things that determine whether they be black magic/witchcraft or spiritual, not the numbers, or miracles.
So if the witch of Endor warns me not to take flight KL256 because the plane is gonna crash it's a good thing?
It's postive to warn someone for danger. But getting that info via witchcraft....
I think God can use the worst of us to do a good thing sometimes.
CHB
:cloud9: I think the correct response to the witch of Endor and the plane scenario, is not to stay off the plane and save self, but to rebuke the witch and the demons that are about to bring the plane down, and then have a "Halleluyah, our God reigns" party on said plane after take off..... :winkgrin: :laughing7:
A lot of number stuff on here, with some cool findings. I don't understand a large portion of what he says as its all math and that is not my strong suit. I was looking for 3x+1, happened on this site. All the G triangles are 3x+1. I have no idea what the significance is if any (besides as a proof for the divine inspiration of the bible). His whole "thing" is Genesis 1:1. All primes past 3 are 6x+1 or 6x-1 (6x+1= 2(3)x+1)
http://www.whatabeginning.com/Misc/Wonders/P.htm
Abstract. On the basis of the self-evident facts presented here the first verse of the Hebrew Scriptures - already featuring the most widely read words of all time - must be regarded as the most remarkable combination of words ever written, and a standing miracle.
Introduction. Few people today realise that what is generally known as 'The Bible' represents, potentially, about 50% of the information contained between its covers. Let me explain: the original Hebrew, Aramaic and Greek documents from which all Bible translations ultimately derive may also be fairly read as sets of numbers. This intriguing situation comes about because, long ago, these ancient peoples adopted the practice of using the letters of their alphabets as numerals. Accordingly, each letter was associated with a fixed value, and a sequence of letters with the sum of their respective values. Consequently, equipped with the relevant scheme of numeration, every Hebrew or Aramaic word of the Old Testament and every Greek word of the New Testament may be readily translated into a whole number
- . But it is appropriate that we ask whether numbers obtained in this way can, in any sense, be regarded as meaningful. I suggest that, under normal circumstances, we would tend to conclude that these derivatives are meaningless adhesions to the text. But here is a Book that claims to be divinely-inspired! Might not things be different in this case? Might not the numbers represent information that complements the biblical text? Might not this particular text be self-authenticating? How could we know for sure? Clearly, a simple test is required to settle the matter.
The Test. It is reasonable that we begin at the beginning by considering the numbers that arise from a reading of the 7 Hebrew words of the Bible's first verse, Genesis 1:1 - a fundamental and strategically-placed assertion. In word order these are, respectively, 913, 203, 86, 401, 395, 407, and 296; their sum - the number to be associated with the complete verse - is 2701, or 37x73. [1] Now observe:
The reflective factors of this sum - both prime numbers - immediately catch the eye
These factors are further related geometrically [2]
Their product, 2701 (representing Genesis 1:1), takes the form of a large triangular number having a cubic outline comprising 216, or 6x6x6, counters [3]
The sum of the numbers representing words 6 and 7 (translated 'and the earth') is 703, or 19x37; these factors - again, both prime numbers - are related geometrically in much the same way as are 37 and 73 [4]
Their product, 703, is not only a triangular number, but specifically the one that is closely coordinated with 2701 [5]
The same pair of numbers feature in a trapezium whose symmetries reveal further divisions of the verse [6]
Because each of the factors of 2701 is a 'star' number (or hexagram), Genesis 1:1 may be further represented as a 'star of stars' [7]
On the basis of the foregoing observations it is clear that 37 assumes a dominant role in the Genesis 1:1 number structure; however, it also transpires that 37 is unique as a number per se [8]
Appropriately, each component of the Creator's Name is found to be a multiple of 37 - indeed, a multiple of 8x37, or 296, value of the 7th word of the Bible's first verse [9]
A tesselated view of Genesis 1:1 [10]
The additional features of an augmented form of the first verse [11]
A significant numero-geometrical singularity leads to the understanding that the numbers undergirding the opening 8 Hebrew words are related parametrically [12]
The mapping of the salient features of an abundant modern artefact onto these 8 words [13]
The derivation of the fundamental constant pi (correct to 5 significant figures) from the letters and words of Genesis 1:1 [14]
The derivation of the fundamental constant e (correct to 5 significant figures) from the letters and words of John 1:1 (a New Testament verse closely related to Genesis 1:1), applying an identical procedure [15]
A simple 3D excursion serves to reveal further geometric cohesion among the Bible's opening Hebrew words [16]
Concluding Remarks. These evidences of deep design in the Bible's opening words throw a completely new light on the true status of the Judeo-Christian Scriptures, for Who alone is capable of simultaneously speaking into existence a meaningful sentence copiously embroidered with such a variety of significant number structures - these incorporating the Author's own signature?!
Can this be a sign for our generation? If so, how is it to be interpreted?
:cloud9: Math is not my strong suit either, but I bet WW loves this :laughing7: Thanks for the find.....
Gonna read that after a few hours sleep.
I have no clue how he sees THIS (http://www.whatabeginning.com/Misc/Wonders/SA16.htm) in a line of text.
Right now I'm to sleepy to even find your "G triangle" reference. I only know a Fremason G triangle. 4 of them form a the sign of their god Baphomet (sp?)
he's taking the gematria of Genesis 1:1 then representing it graphically. Certain numbers are triangle numbers 1, 3, 6, 10, 15, 21, 28, 36, 45, 55, ....
If you look at a set of bowling pins set up from the top down you would see 10 pins set in a triangle. If you added a row with the same layout you would have 15 if you took a row away you would have 6.
G triangles are similar but they have a central counter (bowling pin) which the others form concentric rings around. http://www.whatabeginning.com/Themes/Part1/BP.htm
There's square numbers, primes, perfect numbers. All interwoven into the mix.
If you look at the triangle numbers the 3x+1 numbers fall every two spots just like they do in the normal counting
1, 3, 6, 10, 15, 21, 28, 36, 45, 55, ....
1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10
http://youtu.be/yVkdfJ9PkRQ
video of pendulums creating waveforms, very cool, its math and physics so I posted here.
God is so cute the way he hides little surprises for us.
Quote from: redhotmagma on May 19, 2011, 05:35:50 PM
http://youtu.be/yVkdfJ9PkRQ
video of pendulums creating waveforms, very cool, its math and physics so I posted here.
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I found something nice.
Short introduction for those who forgot the math.
2^3 = 2x2x2=8
4^3 = 4x4x4=64
A permutation is shuffeling the the digits of a number. 1234, 4321, 2314, 1423 are all permutations of teh same number. 1237 is not. Simply because the 7 is not in the other numbers.
Every Greek and Hebrew letter has a numerical value. A word has a value that's the of the letter values.
Jesus Christ in Greek has a value 2368
Let's take a peek a Genesis 1:1 (not what we read a several words is just one word in Hebrew)
In the beginning = 913
created = 203
God = 86
Aleph Tav = 401 ---> The mysterious untranslated 2 letters
heaven = 395
and = 407
earth = 296
String those digits together: 91320386401395407296
9^3 + 1^3 + 3^3 + 2^3 ........ 6^3 = 3826
3826 is a permutation of 2368 (Jesus Christ)
Reverse word values (except the last one) 319+302+68+104+593+704+296=2386 => permutation 2368 Jesus Christ
Total value = 2386
God = 86
God reversed = 68
86-68=18
2386-18=2368 = Jesus Christ
2368 = 37 x 64 = Power x Truth )Greek word values)
This stuff goes on and on.
Divine Completeness
Playing a bit with the speed of light and Gen 1:1 gives 153 a number that keeps returning in all sort of other calculations. (and the 153 fish we discussed a few posts back)
Word values
864 = God (Greek)
864 = Cornerstone (Greek)
864 = God is fire (Greek)
864 = God is peace (Greek)
864 = Life (Greek)
864 = The word of the lord (Hebrew)
864 = Before me there was no god formed, neither shall there after me
1 2 3 4 5 6 7
1 0 0 1 0 0 1
in binary is 73
pi(73) = 7 * 3
73 is the 37th odd number
73^3 = 343 or (3 + 4)^3
pi(37) = 12 and pi(73) = 21
37*7-73*3 = (7-3)*(7+3)
On that whatabeginning.com he comes down to 37 being the number associated with the creator
lots of random facts about prime numbers on http://primes.utm.edu/curios/page.php?short=73
Revelation 1:5 calls Jesus "the ruler [prince] of the kings of the earth." The Greek word translated "ruler" (or prince) is Archon. This word appears 37 times in the Greek New Testament. In biblical numerology, the number 37 means "Christ as the Word made flesh." In ancient times they did not use our modern numbers, which we call Arabic numerals. The Greeks and Hebrews used the letters of their alphabet, just as the Romans used "Roman numerals." Since the Bible was written in Hebrew and Greek, every letter used in the original texts is also a number.
For instance, if you take the Greek name for Jesus, which is Iesous, and add up the number of his name, the letters total 888, which is also 37 x 24. The number 37 is Christ as the Word made flesh, and 24 is the number associated with priesthood. Hence, the mathematical and spiritual meaning of Iesous (Jesus) shows us that He is the Word made flesh and is also the High Priest after the order of Melchisedec.
It is also significant that the Greek word Christos (Christ) has a numeric value of 1480, which is 37 x 40.
In the Hebrew language, the numeric value for "the Messiah" is 37 x 25. The number 25 indicates full salvation, for it is 5 x 5, and five is the number of grace.
In the New Testament there are two passages that specifically mention the Messiah. John 4:25 says, "Messiah is coming, the one called Christ." The numeric value of this passage is 37 x 100. The number 100 is a number of fullness or completeness.
Again, in John 1:41 we find the phrase, "We have found the Messiah." Its numeric value is 37 x 42. The number 42 is a number associated with the coming of Christ (after a time of trial or tribulation). For instance, the Bible records 41 encampments in the wilderness under Moses. The 42nd stop was in the plains of Jericho under Joshua (Jesus), ending their wilderness journey. Hence, "we have found the Messiah" carries a numeric value of 37 x 42, for it indicates the completion of a search for Joshua, or Jesus.
Christ is called in 2 Corinthians 4:4, "the Image of God." This phrase in Greek [eichon theou] has a numeric value of 37 x 37. The full phrase, "Christ, who is the image of God," has a numeric value of 3885, which is 37 x 105.
The phrase, "this is My beloved Son" used in 2 Peter 1:17 has a numeric value of 37 x 111, or 37 x 37 x 3.
The phrase, "the Son of God" used in Galatians 2:20 has a numeric value of 37 x 66. The number 37 is the Word made flesh, and 66 is the number of man. The combination shows with mathematical precision that Jesus is the Son of God who came to earth in the likeness of man.
:cloud9: :thumbsup: Which also proves the Word has a heavenly author......
Quote from: wwRevelation 1:5 calls Jesus "the ruler [prince] of the kings of the earth." The Greek word translated "ruler" (or prince) is Archon. This word appears 37 times in the Greek New Testament. In biblical numerology, the number 37 means "Christ as the Word made flesh."
This is the first time I've noticed this phrase--
Jesus Christ who is...the prince of the kings of the earth. Are you thinking he received this title when he became the Word made flesh? I'm thinking he is the prince of all those who call him Lord, that is, we are the kings of the earth and he is our prince [archon, ruler].
Wings, 37 is featured on whatabeginning.com.
In other number news
The number 67 appears 3 times in the bible. All in Neh 7.
7:18 the descendants of Adonikam, 667;
7:19 the descendants of Bigvai, 2,067;
7:72What the rest of the people gave amounted to 20,000 gold drachmas, 2,000 silver minas, and 67 priestly garments.
Adonikam= The Lord Arose
Bigvai = In my body
67 priestly garments
Neh:
7:66 The entire group numbered 42,360, 7:67 not counting their 7,337 male and female servants. They also had 245 male and female singers. 7:68 They had 736 horses, 245 mules, 7:69 (7:68) 27 435 camels, and 6,720 donkeys. 7:70 Some of the family leaders 28 contributed to the work. The governor contributed to the treasury 1,000 gold drachmas, 29 50 bowls, and 530 priestly garments. 7:71 Some of the family leaders gave to the project treasury 20,000 gold drachmas and 2,200 silver minas. 7:72 What the rest of the people gave amounted to 20,000 gold drachmas, 2,000 silver minas, and 67 priestly garments.
7:73 The priests, the Levites, the gatekeepers, the singers, some of the people, the temple servants, and all the rest of Israel lived in their cities.
I don't put much weight into verse numbers, since they are not original. just a fun note there 7:67 relating to 7337
Also 22,000 (gold drachmas and silver minas) is the number of levites, number of cattle given to Job at the end. number of cattle sacrificed at consecration of 1st temple.
22 is the number of letters in the Hebrew alphabet, and number of books in the OT in its original ordering.
Quote from: redhotmagma on May 31, 2011, 04:25:43 PM
I don't put much weight into verse numbers, since they are not original.
True. But then nothing of NT is original because it was written Hebrew.... :mblush:
Quote from: WhiteWings on May 31, 2011, 04:55:01 PM
Quote from: redhotmagma on May 31, 2011, 04:25:43 PM
I don't put much weight into verse numbers, since they are not original.
True. But then nothing of NT is original because it was written Hebrew.... :mblush:
Er. Yes.
Forgive my utter ignorance, and I know it's not really the subject of this thread, but why is it people study Greek when it's my understanding that Jesus spoke Hebrew? Was the New Testament originally in that language? These probably sound really basic questions to most people here. :mblush: Do feel free to just point me to a few threads and tell me to shut up. :mblush:
People study Greek because there are no Hebrew NT manuscripts preserved. (to my best knowledge) Tiny summary. Church fathers wrote that they had at least a few books in Hebrew. If the Greek is translated 1 on 1 to Hebrew the verses become more fluent and meaningful.
Please continue here: http://www.tentmaker.org/forum/christian_life/the_new_testament_was_written_hebrew_not_greek_9072.0.html
Yes, also, there's really debate (uncertainty) about the topic. Some say it was one way, some the other. Some say Jesus spoke mainly Aramaic, some say Aramaic and Greek, some say all 3 (including Hebrew). There are "scholars" on all sides of the issue. I guess for me, bottom line is 2 things; the Greek are the oldest manuscripts (generally) we have (New Testament), and I've read some (what I consider) reliable information that says the common folk in Jesus' day spoke Koine Greek. (The Christian Bible is translated from that). :2c:
:cloud9: Yes, there is a book extant of Matthew in Hebrew. Sorry I don't have time to find a link, but others have been mentioned in other ancient manuscripts as well.
Some of the opinions;
Several similar to this; The New Testament was written in Hebrew, and must be understood from a Hebrew/Judaic mindset. Not doing so is fruitless study and leads to error;
http://www.yashanet.com/studies/matstudy/mat3b.htm
Then these;
"Many scholars view the [Hebrew] text as a mediaeval translation from the Greek text of the Gospel of Matthew, as well as being the likely source of all later Hebrew versions of Matthew prior to the 20th century."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rabbinical_translations_of_Matthew
The New Testament was not written in Hebrew, but Greek; "refutation of the baseless claim made by Sacred Name Movement teachers of an original Hebrew New Testament."
http://www.sacrednamemovement.com/StudyHEight.htm
"I have been concerned about certain forces within the Hebrew Roots movement and where this is leading. While understanding the Hebrew foundation of Christianity is something all Christians should pursue, there is something sinister going on below the surface. There seems to be an attempt to draw Christians away from the simplicity of the Gospel back under the Old Covenant (Law) into Judaism. Eventually, I believe the result for those who are absorbed into this movement will be forsaking the only begotton Son of God for another "Yeshua" who was just a Jewish sage. The destination seems to be the same as the Jesus Seminar, it is just arrived at via another route. I realize that this is a tough statement. But, after interaction with several who have been involved in this movement for some time, I am convinced it is accurate.
One of the subtle attacks on the Christian Faith comes from the notion that the New Testament was not written in Greek, but in "Hebrew." This may seem benign at first, but it is not. It is an attack on the reliability of the text of your Bible. If the Greek text is unreliable and has been corrupted by Greeks, as is charged by some, there is no longer a standard of truth. The Protestant cry of "Sola Scriptura" is meaningless unless we have a historically stable and reliable text. Once the New Testament itself is discredited, the rope tying your boat to the dock has been severed, and you are bound to be "carried about with every wind of doctrine." "We must pay more careful attention, therefore, to what we have heard, so that we do not drift away." [Heb. 2:1].
No ancient Hebrew manuscript of the New Testament has ever been found from the early centuries of Christianity. The oldest are Greek. The oldest papyrus fragment [a portion of the Gospel of John] dates back to the late second century. So the manuscript evidence alone weighs heavily against the concept of Hebrew "originals." The proponents of the Hebrew New Testament claim that internal evidence suggests the original language of the text was "Hebrew." Actually, the "Hebrew" of the Torah was not widely spoken at the time of Christ. It was the language of the Jewish scholars, but not widely spoken by common Jewish folk. It was like the "Latin" of the day. It had long since gone out of common use since the Babylonian captivity. In Israel of the first century, Aramaic [or "Chaldee"] was fairly common, which is similar to Hebrew. But, this was the language picked up during the Babylonian captivity, which found its way into Jewish life. [There are a few parts of the Old Testament written in Aramaic, parts of Jeremiah, Daniel, and Ezra]. So, lets not begin with a false impression that true "Hebrew" of the Torah is even a possible candidate for the original documents of the New Testament. It is not."
http://www.pfrs.org/jewish/hr08.html
Quote from: WhiteWings on May 31, 2011, 11:37:06 PMPlease continue here: http://www.tentmaker.org/forum/christian_life/the_new_testament_was_written_hebrew_not_greek_9072.0.html
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Plz keep teh numbers thread clean. (I have a thought what Koine Greek really is)
YLTExodus 27
16 `And for the gate of the court a covering of twenty cubits , blue, and purple, and scarlet, and twined linen, work of an embroiderer; their pillars four, their sockets four.
YLT1 Kings 6
16 And he buildeth the twenty cubits on the sides of the house with ribs of cedar, from the floor unto the walls; and he buildeth for it within, for the oracle, for the holy of holies.
עשׂרים + אמּה ==> Gementria value 666
:mshock: ??
:cloud9: Funny..... :happygrin:
The sides of Noah's ark are the same as the Hebrew word for ribs, Eve was formed from a rib, and it's the inner court realm in type, where the table of shewbread is. The rib is curved, a symbol of the soul (because of Eve), and like a boomerang, "she" is returning to His side as a covering (as the ribs cover the HEART, the heart is Christ).
This is why His side was pierced (veil rent), to prepare the way of return for the Bride. Jeremiah talks about a woman shall encompass (become a covering for) a man.
Satan speaks to and thru Eve (the soul). My :2c:
Hebrew Gemetria calculator (http://www.numberman.net/Hebrew_Gem_Calculator.html)
Greek Gementria calculator (http://www.numberman.net/Greek_Gem_Calculator.html)
Main site (http://www.numberman.net/index.html)
Deuteronomy is Devarim in Hebrew.
Devarim in Hebraic understanding means the "mouth" of Torah; a summarizing all that has happened before in "the main body."
Another word for this book in Hebrew is Suf Debar – last words. It contains Moshe's last words, his farewell discourse and a song to Israel.
Agriculturally, Devarim/Deuteronomy means to point back to a food source, or head of the house.
Devarim is: Dalet-bet-resh = Devar (word). Dalet being the door, bet/resh is bar, the son. Debar, The Word is the door through which the Son comes.
Deuteronomy = Devarim = The Word is the door through which the Son comes.
(http://torahtothetribes.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/3rd-Devarim-PP.002.jpg)
Quote from: WhiteWings on July 20, 2012, 09:05:37 PM
Deuteronomy is Devarim in Hebrew.
Devarim in Hebraic understanding means the "mouth" of Torah; a summarizing all that has happened before in "the main body."
Another word for this book in Hebrew is Suf Debar – last words. It contains Moshe's last words, his farewell discourse and a song to Israel.
Agriculturally, Devarim/Deuteronomy means to point back to a food source, or head of the house.
Devarim is: Dalet-bet-resh = Devar (word). Dalet being the door, bet/resh is bar, the son. Debar, The Word is the door through which the Son comes.
Deuteronomy = Devarim = The Word is the door through which the Son comes.
(http://torahtothetribes.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/3rd-Devarim-PP.002.jpg)
:thumbsup: Beautiful.
http://www.levendwater.org/books/numbers/number_in_scripture_bullinger.pdf
Quote from: Cardinal on May 17, 2011, 06:26:03 PM
:cloud9: I can see 50 as being the number of the church, ie. Pentecost, plus 1 being Him. :dontknow:
In a way 50=8
The 49 days leading to Pentecost were:
- Regular 7 day weeks
- 7 Sabbaths
They sometimes were just called 7 days referring to 7 Sabbaths which are the most important days of the week. (just like some say the 70 weeks of Daniel are 70 Sabbath years)
8 is often viewed as a new beginning.
Basically Pentecost was too.
Obviously that means Pentecost was on Sunday and weeks were in sync with regular Sabbath. Counting back that pinpoints resurrection, wavesheaf etc.
The result of that is that some doctrines (like wednesday, thurday, friday crucifixion) are 'proven' wrong. So you won't have to look hard to find articles claiming otherwise :winkgrin:
(http://www.answersintheendtimes.com/images/stories/Mem.jpg) Mighty (waves)
(http://www.answersintheendtimes.com/images/stories/Nun.jpg) Son (heir)
(http://www.answersintheendtimes.com/images/stories/Resh.jpg) Head, as in leader, number one, etc.
(http://www.answersintheendtimes.com/images/stories/Hey.jpg) Reveal (look, breath)
Together it spells Menorah.
The separate letters spell something like: Mighty son first revealed.
(http://www.answersintheendtimes.com/images/stories/Yeshua.jpg) Spells Jesus.
The letters have 7 flame like tops. 7 flames of the Menorah.
Quote from: WhiteWings on May 19, 2011, 11:03:51 PM
Let's take a peek a Genesis 1:1 (not what we read a several words is just one word in Hebrew)
In the beginning = 913
created = 203
God = 86
Aleph Tav = 401 ---> The mysterious untranslated 2 letters
heaven = 395
and = 407
earth = 296
String those digits together: 91320386401395407296
9^3 + 1^3 + 3^3 + 2^3 ........ 6^3 = 3826
3826 is a permutation of 2368 (Jesus Christ)
I got to this thread very late, but I am very interested in this sort of thing. I looked at "The mysterious untranslated 2 letters," and gave it some thought. It's not really mysterious at all! Aleph is the first letter in the Hebrew Alephbet, and Tav is the last. So, we could translate the verse as: "In the beginning created God first and last [alpha & omega [Jesus]] heaven and earth."
We could also translate and understand Genesis 1:1 in this way:
In the beginning [TIME]
God created [ENERGY]
the heavens [SPACE]
and the earth [MATTER].
There it is folks, in the first verse of a Book most think is unscientific, are all the concepts of modern physics: space/time and matter/energy.
Laz can we discuss Alev Tav in this thread? http://tentmaker.org/forum/word-studies/the-fourth-word/msg122084/#msg122084
QuoteWe could also translate and understand Genesis 1:1 in this way:
In the beginning [TIME]
God created [ENERGY]
the heavens [SPACE]
and the earth [MATTER].
I agree with that. I have it in my spreadsheet that shows groups of 4 that aligns colors, covenants, "things", "trinity", etc
I'm just not sure about the correct order of this set of 4.
QuoteThere it is folks, in the first verse of a Book most think is unscientific, are all the concepts of modern physics: space/time and matter/energy.
Maybe also the super supersymmetry? (but that's a set of 5)
(http://www.abarim-publications.com/plaatjes/forces.GIF)
If you like that sorta stuff you likely also like the definition of Pi :winkgrin:
http://www.abarim-publications.com/Bible_Commentary/Pi_In_The_Bible.html#.UnH2UXDV78k