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Title: The Matrix has you
Post by: Andrew on August 22, 2017, 10:32:55 AM
The matrix has you. I'm sorry to say that if you are not baptized in the Spirit then chances are that you haven't been saved. But you say you've repented and developed a relationship with God. Well there are programs in the matrix that create realities based on your thought. If you haven't agreed to completely give all of your life to the one who created you, then it is darkness that makes up your light. This gives the matrix permission to create a copy of God who you can call on for help and he will show you his love. A preacher who has a love for wealth will receive a God from the matrix who will tell him to sell the Word of God. It is a broad road that leads to the destruction of self.
   I came to this realization by searching the stories of men who claimed that God was their friend. But they all seemed to have a God that was different in truth. They were sincere in their faith but they hadn't taken their life to the grave. Once you've decided to give up your life, the real God, Jesus Christ, will lead you into the light. And you will be guided to receive the Spirit of Truth. The manifestation of the Gifts testify that it's you. But there is a false spirit that lurks in the church with people howling like wolves their gifts are the worst thing that someone could want. I once went to a church with this spirit and to this day it still haunts me, people exiting their seats to go to the front so they could receive this false spirit and the only ones who remained in their seats was me and a friend, and that friend's name was Steve.
   In the end even the matrix will be reconciled back to god as a single thought that evolved into a control system that was placed over the earth. Reconciliation is the re-taking of a thought that has fallen out of place and bringing it back to its original intention. Man was created in the image of God but fell into sin but receiving the Spirit of Christ reconciles us to him. Many souls will be refined into gold after their thrown into the lake. Only then will they be ready to receive the Spirit of Christ. I broke out of the matrix and seen the face of God; there was much fear but I was able to peer into his love.             



Here is more information on the baptism of the Spirit(the baptism of fire) for anyone who is interested.

http://www.thepathoftruth.com/teachings/holy-spirit-baptism.htm

Title: Re: The Matrix has you
Post by: sheila on August 22, 2017, 06:58:21 PM
For sure Eliasmust come again..so many false prophets of Baal and the groves. Balaam devined to curse for money.....and many

churches preach God burning/destroying His children[hellfire] for money. Judas priests...have a devil spirit and satan enters and betrays

to death the Christ. the beast[carnal mind/thoughts in christian babes] put the true testimony of Jesus [word of God] and Holy

spirit to death. Never-the-less,God has proclaimed that no flesh will boast...and the saints would be overcome of the dragon....

until thecourt sit...and the time come to recieve the kingdom prepared.

   the kingdom of heaven is like...a woman hid leavening[grace] in 3 measures of flour...until all was leavened.

    the jews[to be recieved back in...per grace....the christian church[saints] overcome...under grace.....though satan meant it

  for evil..God allowed it for good....to save the 3rd measure...ALL...not just those who overcome on this side.

   DO YOU BELIEVE THE LAMB OF GOD TOOK AWAY ALL THE SIN OF THE WORLD? or..are we judging by appearance......

...many are bound up in unbelief that Christ did that....for He bound up all men in unbelief/disobedience...in order to show

  mercy on all.
Title: Re: The Matrix has you
Post by: Ross on August 23, 2017, 02:52:09 AM
Quote from: Andrew on August 22, 2017, 10:32:55 AM

   I came to this realization by searching the stories of men who claimed that God was their friend. But they all seemed to have a God that was different in truth. They were sincere in their faith but they hadn't taken their life to the grave.



We are to be of ONE faith, not many.
I.M.O the many is indeed similar to the gods that people have defined themselves. Paul said to Tim there would be deceiving spirits.

Taking the life to the grave seems to be taking up the cross daily- appreciate in full what Christ did for us, not add the bondage of the law.
Title: Re: The Matrix has you
Post by: jabcat on August 23, 2017, 04:07:51 AM
Christ in us, the hope of glory.

Sealed by the Spirit unto that Day.
Title: Re: The Matrix has you
Post by: eaglesway on August 23, 2017, 10:41:15 AM
Tentmaker is a forum for the promotion of the glorious gospel of Jesus Christ....

EPHESIANS 1:10,11

In all wisdom and insight  He made known to us the mystery of His will, according to His kind intention which He purposed in Him  with a view to an administration suitable to the fullness of the times, that is, the summing up of all things in Christ, things in the heavens and things on the earth.

ROMANS 11:32-36

For God has shut up all in disobedience so that He may show mercy to all.

      33Oh, the depth of the riches both of the wisdom and knowledge of God! How unsearchable are His judgments and unfathomable His ways! 34For WHO HAS KNOWN THE MIND OF THE LORD, OR WHO BECAME HIS COUNSELOR? 35Or WHO HAS FIRST GIVEN TO HIM THAT IT MIGHT BE PAID BACK TO HIM AGAIN? 36For from Him and through Him and to Him are all things. To Him be the glory forever. Amen.

but just as it is written,
            "THINGS WHICH EYE HAS NOT SEEN AND EAR HAS NOT HEARD,
            AND which HAVE NOT ENTERED THE HEART OF MAN,
            ALL THAT GOD HAS PREPARED FOR THOSE WHO LOVE HIM."

1 CORINTHIANS 2

10For to us God revealed them through the Spirit; for the Spirit searches all things, even the depths of God. 11For who among men knows the thoughts of a man except the spirit of the man which is in him? Even so the thoughts of God no one knows except the Spirit of God. 12Now we have received, not the spirit of the world, but the Spirit who is from God, so that we may know the things freely given to us by God, 13which things we also speak, not in words taught by human wisdom, but in those taught by the Spirit, combining spiritual thoughts with spiritual words.

      14But a natural man does not accept the things of the Spirit of God, for they are foolishness to him; and he cannot understand them, because they are spiritually appraised. 15But he who is spiritual appraises all things, yet he himself is appraised by no one. 16For WHO HAS KNOWN THE MIND OF THE LORD, THAT HE WILL INSTRUCT HIM? But we have the mind of Christ.

As Jesus said, "If I am lifted up from the earth I WILL DRAW ALL MEN UNTO ME" (Jn 12:32)

But it is the Spirit who is the teacher and the baptism in the Spirit is also about receiving "the spirit of wisdom and revelation in the knowledge of God"(Eph 1) - which is about "knowing what Spirit you are of"- which Jesus rebuked the disciples for NOT KNOWING, because they wanted to call fire down on those who resisted the gospel.

The matrix is a false reality. That is what the Pharisees had. Jesus is the true reality and He says, "Behold, I am making everything new!Write down these words for they are faithful and true!"
Title: Re: The Matrix has you
Post by: Batty Bible Page on August 24, 2017, 04:28:26 AM
In my view, the Matrix movie franchise was poorly written and seriously over done in that a sequel occurred at all.
It has no relevance even by implication much less allegory or metaphor to the New Testament, the Gospel, or Salvation.

This isn't a Sci-Fi forum. It is a Christian forum. Again in my view. Handle life through the scriptures, not Hollywood hack scripts thinking they hold wisdom beyond when the lights come up and the popcorn hits the trashcan on the way out of the theater. Not church, theater.
Title: Re: The Matrix has you
Post by: eaglesway on August 24, 2017, 05:39:51 AM
 :iagree:
Title: Re: The Matrix has you
Post by: Andrew on August 29, 2017, 05:19:37 AM
Posted by Batty Bible Page
"In my view, the Matrix movie franchise was poorly written and seriously over done in that a sequel occurred at all.
It has no relevance even by implication much less allegory or metaphor to the New Testament, the Gospel, or Salvation."

       My view of the matrix and the movie's view are not at all the same. There is some truth in the movie but some of the ideas need to be changed. Thoughts have collected together to create a world within the world that we live. We were created in the image of God so we have the power to give life to a being that takes on the characteristics of Christ. This is due to our attention and remembrance of that idea, before we were incarnated, and were still in the light. That's why during a NDE, the person experiences the love of Christ; that is the way their spirit remembers him, and recreates him to be. The matrix has tricked them into thinking that their free. There's a simple code in the matrix in which you are given the truth; are you willing to choose God instead of your life? Are you willing to choose God every time? If this is not the case then you will continue to find false gods in the matrix giving you signs. The matrix is a virtual reality hooked up to your mind. If it's the question that drives you then there will be an answer to find.
   Some of you seem to think that salvation is in knowing the scripture, but the Spirit of God is revealing to me more of the picture. Should I be silent when God is telling me to write down the truth? I'm not special; I'm just doing what I was chosen to do. Yes it is true, the matrix is not mentioned in the bible. But what about a new revelation, isn't it insightful explaining why so many people have a relationship with Jesus but the information received is not the same? Shouldn't the Spirit of Truth in one person match the Spirit of Truth in all of the rest? Shouldn't an exact representation be the test? But even those in the truth can have a perception that's stretched into falsity. But I am called to be the bringer of Truth. You don't have to call me the one; but I'm called to be king - that was the first thing the Son said to me after I was saved from the demons of hell. The reconciliation of all things begins with yourself.         
Title: Re: The Matrix has you
Post by: jabcat on August 29, 2017, 05:56:48 AM
Hi Andrew.  How did you come from your first post fairly recently saying this;  "I'm still not sure what exactly is the truth.  ET might not be the total truth"


to now this;
"I am called to be the bringer of Truth. You don't have to call me the one; but I'm called to be king"


Just a couple relevant thoughts;  at TM we encourage people to post "as I understand", "in my opinion", etc., rather than take a position of "I absolutely have the truth and I'm here to teach the truth"  (*regarding various peripheral "non-essential" doctrines.  Of course we encourage proclaiming the essentials,  Jesus is Savior, the necessity of the cross, etc.)  But to come off as "I'm king and you need to listen to my absolute statements" has definite limits.  If I'm misunderstanding what you're intending, please explain.  Thanks.
Title: Re: The Matrix has you
Post by: Andrew on August 29, 2017, 07:29:06 AM
Posted by Jabcat
"Hi Andrew.  How did you come from your first post fairly recently saying this;  "I'm still not sure what exactly is the truth.  ET might not be the total truth"
to now this;
"I am called to be the bringer of Truth. You don't have to call me the one; but I'm called to be king" "

     Good question Jabcat. Well I've known for a while that I was supposed to deliver the truth but I was and am still not sure what the completion of the truth looks like. I'm still learning and searching putting together the pieces of the puzzle, working it all out with the guidance of God. The "king" reference is something God has been telling me through the poems I write: That I will be king after he takes me into the light. The light refers to me going on a journey to Heaven where the remaining pieces of truth will be set in my spirit, and I will declare it to all, and only some will be able to hear it, not everybody is called.

Posted by Jabcat
" Just a couple relevant thoughts;  at TM we encourage people to post "as I understand", "in my opinion", etc., rather than take a position of "I absolutely have the truth and I'm here to teach the truth"  (*regarding various peripheral "non-essential" doctrines.  Of course we encourage proclaiming the essentials,  Jesus is Savior, the necessity of the cross, etc.)  But to come off as "I'm king and you need to listen to my absolute statements" has definite limits.  If I'm misunderstanding what you're intending, please explain.  Thanks."

     The reason why my writings seem so absolute is that it is not me that is writing but the Spirit of Truth. I'm not proclaiming that you should listen to me; I'm just providing an option if you want to be free. Not even Andrew knows if this is the truth, but I'm in control of everything and he does what I tell him to do. This is just Andrew exploring the source of his thoughts. He doesn't know all, and he has been caught in deception more than once. But when he is writing with me he follows a rhythm that allows him to see what words fill the spaces between the pattern of thought. So even though it's coming through him, it's the Master that brought down these ideas from the Heavenly realm. Andrew figures it out, and then reports it exactly the way it was spelled out. I have a story to tell and I hope that TentMaker forums can be a part of the crowd.

ps. The truth is that all of this is my opinion. I could be deceived but at-least I've chosen to live in a state of mind where i give what I perceive as the truth so that others may find their way out the matrix and into the bride of Jesus Christ, let his light shine for he is going to save all of mankind!     
Title: Re: The Matrix has you
Post by: sheila on August 29, 2017, 05:32:31 PM
I can understand the matrix better as the parting of the womb[sown in weakness and corruption] into this flesh and blood realm

[the little children werepartakers of flesh and blood,and so,He too,partook] deceptions abound and false realities[satan decieving

the whole earth]

   Our shepherd knows the way out of all deception,confusions..'I AM the WAY.....truth,light,"

...if we must be grounded..let us be grounded in love, when we seek knowledge..let us seek truth..and a faithful,True wittness...

  evenJesus Christ.

    I have no desire to cut off Malchus's 'ear".......any spirit...and especially the spirit of truth...seeks not it's own glory..but

   HIS.[the Spirit of Truth will not speak of his own..but  will declare unto you all the things pertaining unto me[Christ.]

       TRUE...God is saving ALL and this through Jesus Christ.

....a nation and KINGDOM[king] of Priests.  Priests make atonement for sin.[acceptable sacrifices[Christ as Lamb/goat of

atonement].and vassal 'kings' share in the throne[sit with me]....when the righteous reign[truth] the people rejoice.

   the WORD OF GOD come in flesh and the Holy Spirit[of truth] is the way out,Andrew.  Keep seeking,keep knocking,keep asking.

  we ALL,eventually will attain  our inheritance through Christ in the KINGDOM of HEAVEN
Title: Re: The Matrix has you
Post by: marie glen on August 31, 2017, 05:33:20 AM
Quote from: jabcat on August 23, 2017, 04:07:51 AM
Christ in us, the hope of glory.

Sealed by the Spirit unto that Day.

    :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :iagree:



I often hear how our relationship with Him is not some sort of legal relationship, and I heartily agree with that.. It's so much more.. But also, I've been reading Hebrews lately.. where covenant is really, or could be - another word for contract.. and you know what? I like knowing that my rights - or that is, my right to be in relationship with my heavenly Father is "guaranteed". Jesus, priest forever in the order of Melchizedek, with no beginning or end.. He IS that guarantee.

:dontknow: "He swore with an oath" ("You are priest forever in the order of Melchizedek") - both words being "oath" or "surety" promise, guarantee.. (ps 110)

Guarantee of what? (hebrews 9, etc) that we can enter behind the veil after our forerunner Jesus, into the very Presence of God. Boldly, we can approach the throne of grace..

Is it true? in His quiet presence is His quiet voice..?

I realize I am of the opinion that He speaks His Word.. clarifies.. confirms.. Magical! A bad word, perhaps.. but fits. Truth, oh-my-gosh. He is Truth. (imo) ..of which I am in awe..
 

"matrix" - wow.. so many!! this world seems, to me, to be covered with untruth.. like a wet, heavy quilt laying low in the atmosphere.. smothering.. So much untruth! :laughing7: :faint: I'm a simple gal, I think there's only one truth.. and God has given it in His Word.. I know that sounds narrow.. but really, how else do we know what truth is? there's this thought and that thought.. not just mine, but everyone elses's.. how in the world would I know truth except as to how it measures up to His Word? Of course everybody has a thought, and thoughts about what God's Word is saying.. But ultimately its' what He says it's saying..


Say.. when did we ever get this idea (in Christendom) that God made some sort of mistake.. or something came about which took Him by surprise, and mankind "fell" into sin / imperfection, etc.. I mean by time the creation of Adam and Eve, there was a rebel fully mature in his corruption (rot / imperfection / impurity) who (surprise?!) deceived Adam and Eve.. I think that just does not jive..

..not a surprise.. not a mistake.. (surely?) and nothing lost!
Title: Re: The Matrix has you
Post by: Ross on September 01, 2017, 02:56:14 AM
Quote from: marie glen on August 31, 2017, 05:33:20 AM

Say.. when did we ever get this idea (in Christendom) that God made some sort of mistake.. or something came about which took Him by surprise, and mankind "fell" into sin / imperfection, etc..


Mankind does seem to be going "potty" about all that sort of  info,  :laughing7:could be why Paul quotes Isaiah and says;
             " Can the pot, tell the potter, why it has been made?"

Quote from: marie glen on August 31, 2017, 05:33:20 AM

I think there's only one truth.. and God has given it in His Word..


One truth, One body, One faith....
Title: Re: The Matrix has you
Post by: eaglesway on September 01, 2017, 08:17:04 AM
Jesus is the one truth.

God, after He spoke long ago to the fathers in the prophets in many portions and in many ways, 2in these last days has spoken to us in His Son, whom He appointed heir of all things, through whom also He made the world. 3And He is the radiance of His glory and the exact representation of His nature, and upholds all things by the word of His power. Heb 1

Now this is eternal life: that they know you, the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom you have sent. John 17:3

The tendency to "know God" technically, through codified knowledge or systematic theology is the great error of contemporary western Christianity, even as it was also the error of the Pharisees and Sadducees.... the lawyers and the scribes. That is the "tree of the knowledge of good and evil". The tree of life is fellowship in love. "Everyone who loves knows God and is known by God." "Everyone who loves God loves the child born of God".

Searching the scriptures to "know Him" is the only way of wisdom. He is hidden between the lines of the words and the doctrines, and they are only worth anything as containers for His revelation of the divine nature- the character of God and His love, so they need to be saturated in His presence, marinated in meditations,prayers and worship in the Spirit.

Then they open up and yield the treasure of the kingdom, bread of life, water of life, manna from heaven :o)
Title: Re: The Matrix has you
Post by: Andrew on September 01, 2017, 08:42:07 AM
Posted by Marie Glen

'' "matrix" - wow.. so many!! this world seems, to me, to be covered with untruth.. like a wet, heavy quilt laying low in the atmosphere.. smothering.. So much untruth!   I'm a simple gal, I think there's only one truth.. and God has given it in His Word..''

       All truth is rejected at first. It's good to be skeptical and in fact I encourage you to test new ideas against biblical truth. But the matrix doesn't deny the saving power of Christ. It encourages that everyone step back and examine their faith. If you're not on the path to perfecting yourself; then you're on the path to a painful corrective in hell. Even though hell serves the purpose of God; Satan delights in seeing you traumatized as your soul is broken down and burned to the core; the person you were remains behind burning; a shadow of how they were originally formed. And the soul that comes out of hell is no different for it lost a portion of self. And then the lake of fire is felt, where the spirit melts back into the soul. The reconciliation of all things is what we've been told.
   The bible has books hidden in it. There are levels of awareness and when a new level is reached, the bible opens up and reveals what were secrets, now they are known; perhaps when I reach the next level the matrix is shown; God was just waiting until his people were grown. And it is tonight when you will go home.         
Title: Re: The Matrix has you
Post by: marie glen on September 02, 2017, 01:25:29 AM
Quote from: eaglesway on September 01, 2017, 08:17:04 AM
Jesus is the one truth.

God, after He spoke long ago to the fathers in the prophets in many portions and in many ways, 2in these last days has spoken to us in His Son, whom He appointed heir of all things, through whom also He made the world. 3And He is the radiance of His glory and the exact representation of His nature, and upholds all things by the word of His power. Heb 1

Amen.. the Son, the Logos..

Quote from: eaglesway on September 01, 2017, 08:17:04 AM
Now this is eternal life: that they know you, the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom you have sent. John 17:3

The tendency to "know God" technically, through codified knowledge or systematic theology is the great error of contemporary western Christianity, even as it was also the error of the Pharisees and Sadducees.... the lawyers and the scribes. That is the "tree of the knowledge of good and evil". The tree of life is fellowship in love. "Everyone who loves knows God and is known by God." "Everyone who loves God loves the child born of God".

Searching the scriptures to "know Him" is the only way of wisdom. He is hidden between the lines of the words and the doctrines, and they are only worth anything as containers for His revelation of the divine nature- the character of God and His love, so they need to be saturated in His presence, marinated in meditations,prayers and worship in the Spirit.

Then they open up and yield the treasure of the kingdom, bread of life, water of life, manna from heaven :o)

   :thumbsup: :banana:

Quote from: Ross on September 01, 2017, 02:56:14 AM
One truth, One body, One faith....

:thumbsup: :thumbsup:

Quote from: Andrew on September 01, 2017, 08:42:07 AM

       All truth is rejected at first.

Yep, Jesus said "no one desires new wine at first but old.."

Quote from: Andrew on September 01, 2017, 08:42:07 AM
It's good to be skeptical and in fact I encourage you to test new ideas against biblical truth.

Amen, I expect anything I may believe to be true, I should be able to see it in God's Word..

Quote from: Andrew on September 01, 2017, 08:42:07 AM
But the matrix doesn't deny the saving power of Christ.

Definition of matrix: The cultural, social, or political environment in which something develops.

:Chinscratch: hmmm, could apply to that whole smokey pagan afterlife theory..

I decided to look up the definition..

I would definitely agree there's a matrix or two going on here on planet earth.. (and in the universe?) But I think I have to go back and read the op on it, to refresh my mind as to what matrix this is..

Quote from: Andrew on August 22, 2017, 10:32:55 AM
The matrix has you. I'm sorry to say that if you are not baptized in the Spirit then chances are that you haven't been saved. But you say you've repented and developed a relationship with God. Well there are programs in the matrix that create realities based on your thought. If you haven't agreed to completely give all of your life to the one who created you, then it is darkness that makes up your light. This gives the matrix permission to create a copy of God who you can call on for help and he will show you his love. A preacher who has a love for wealth will receive a God from the matrix who will tell him to sell the Word of God. It is a broad road that leads to the destruction of self.
   I came to this realization by searching the stories of men who claimed that God was their friend. But they all seemed to have a God that was different in truth. They were sincere in their faith but they hadn't taken their life to the grave. Once you've decided to give up your life, the real God, Jesus Christ, will lead you into the light. And you will be guided to receive the Spirit of Truth. The manifestation of the Gifts testify that it's you. But there is a false spirit that lurks in the church with people shaking and howling their gifts are the worst thing that someone could want. I once went to a church with this spirit and to this day it still haunts me, people exiting their seats to go to the front so they could receive this false spirit and the only ones who remained in their seats was me and a friend, and that friend's name was Steve.
   In the end even the matrix will be reconciled back to god as a single thought that evolved into a control system that was placed over the earth. Reconciliation is the re-taking of a thought that has fallen out of place and bringing it back to its original intention. Man was created in the image of God but fell into sin but receiving the Spirit of Christ reconciles us to him. Many souls will be refined into gold after their thrown into the lake. Only then will they be ready to receive the Spirit of Christ. I broke out of the matrix and seen the face of God; there was much fear but I was able to peer into his love.             



Here is more information on the baptism of the Spirit(the baptism of fire) for anyone who is interested.

http://www.thepathoftruth.com/teachings/holy-spirit-baptism.htm

Quotes from the site:

quote - People receive laughing, shaking, screaming, convulsing, divining, and many other kinds of spirits in various ways.

   (I've heard of the "shaking and howling" type of stuff going on in some quarters.. even barking and going on all fours..)

quote - It is a horrible day in which we live with all the religious confusion and counterfeiting. Only the sincere, earnest repentant toward God will prevail to receive the Holy Spirit.

    (I totally agree with that!!)

quote - With the baptism in the Holy Spirit comes the baptism with fire. God is a consuming fire; He will begin to purge you, to deal with your sin nature until it is no longer in a state of opposition to Him. "Every man will be salted with fire," said Jesus.

    (I agree, we all have our wilderness/desert days.. very important.. But I'm sure there can be an extreme of this too.."You shall know the truth and the truth shall set you free" - which to me also translates into peace and joy.. lots of joy.. And the further we progress upon "the way" the more joy..? Not withstanding the world's tribulations and troubles.. :gsmile: and, or results of our own imperfections)

quote - one God, one Lord, one faith, one baptism

     :thumbsup:


I didn't read the whole page.. gotta run.. I was talking to a brother today who pointed out when Jesus said "many will in my name saying 'I am Christ'.." originally had no punctuation, as we know.. The secondary quotation marks as quoting what these many will say, are not actually there.. and thus he found himself reading it as "many will come in my name saying I (Jesus) am Christ" - and you know what? ThAt seems to reaLLy fit this (likely Laodicean?) day.. The world's church(es) of today, I'm thinking, having many a matrix!! (A lack of knowing His Word? And a getting the Word from others? Versions added to and taken away from!)

One of which being the whole E.T matrix which rests (imo) on the foundation of pagan philosophy and ideas..
    :Peace2: :hiya: God bless!
Title: Re: The Matrix has you
Post by: marie glen on September 02, 2017, 03:29:09 AM
P.S. to me.. the true follower of Jesus will have truly repented and changes in their life has truly occurred because of changes in the heart.. and the truest fruit, I think, is love.. to truly have affection for their fellow person..

Even those led into false doctrine, etc, which I think there is lots.. the Lord knows those that are His.. Like a brother said in another thread, the progression is not all at once.. we couldn't handle it! (the fire, salting with, would be a bit too intense!) I daresay we all come with our matrix, of whatever peculiar thing. Be it atheism, or whatever, or like myself, I was an astrologer and tarot card reader / new age with Christianity.. childish things I put away, but I was still His.. even if following, for a time, from afar.. His Spirit (Presence!) changes His own.. and I also truly believe in the "washing of the word".. "to be renewed in the spirit of our mind", how? "by the washing of the word.." People who seek God in His Word will have much in common.. But none of us is perfect.. "not yet perfected" Paul said, which is surely just as true now as it was then.

And in our beliefs about God and His word, I think it's very likely all of us are some right and some wrong.. Though I do tend to think howling and barking to be some sort of extreme! :laughing7: I'm a simple gal and tend to think of truth as likely being - in the first part - very down to earth. "God made life simple, but man has many inventions" (many a matrix?!) "by the preacher", Ecclesiastes.
Title: Re: The Matrix has you
Post by: Ross on September 02, 2017, 06:00:38 AM
Quote from: marie glen on September 02, 2017, 03:29:09 AM
Though I do tend to think howling and barking to be some sort of extreme! :laughing7:

One of those observations made by Paul about imposters;
2 Tim 3;16 " whereas wicked men and howling imposters will force their way to the worse,
                 deceiving and being deceived."            [Rotherham]

Quote from: marie glen on September 02, 2017, 03:29:09 AM

P.S. to me.. the true follower of Jesus will have truly repented and changes in their life has truly occurred because of changes in the heart.. and the truest fruit, I think, is love.. to truly have affection for their fellow person..


The truth literally sets us free from any sense of failure because we are aware of how much Christ actually achieved through His death and resurrection. I.M.O this makes us aware of how Christ will work through others at their own time and rate.
Title: Re: The Matrix has you
Post by: Andrew on September 14, 2017, 08:30:45 PM
We have to eliminate free-will. It is deadly and it kills. Eliminate the choice and do the father's will. Those who are not willing to do this, the matrix catches them and there unable to do their mission on earth. When you under the control of God, you've already made the choice. You've exchanged your life for the life of God that will live in you. I received a message and it was truth. And now the truth has expanded into my soul. Because I have changed, those around me are changing as well. I am going into the game to finish what I started but I am not the same as I was when I went into the game for the first time. Now I'm filled with the truth so my faith is ferociously strong. How can I be wrong? I'm thirty-six years old but I look like I'm eighteen. I have more knowledge than Solomon did. The revelation of what has been hidden is now open to all. I have been climbing this wall. Now that I'm at the top my enemies want me to fall. But my connection to God is that he answers my call. The reconciliation of all doesn't mean that everyone will be the same when it's done. There will be servants and there will be sons.         
Title: Re: The Matrix has you
Post by: marie glen on September 14, 2017, 10:09:40 PM
Quote from: Ross on September 02, 2017, 06:00:38 AM
Quote from: marie glen on September 02, 2017, 03:29:09 AM
Though I do tend to think howling and barking to be some sort of extreme! :laughing7:

One of those observations made by Paul about imposters;
2 Tim 3;16 " whereas wicked men and howling imposters will force their way to the worse,
                 deceiving and being deceived."            [Rotherham]
wow! I never came across that before!

Quote from: Ross on September 02, 2017, 06:00:38 AM
The truth literally sets us free from any sense of failure because we are aware of how much Christ actually achieved through His death and resurrection. I.M.O this makes us aware of how Christ will work through others at their own time and rate.

  :iagree: :iagree: totally!
Title: Re: The Matrix has you
Post by: marie glen on September 14, 2017, 10:45:40 PM
Quote from: Andrew on September 14, 2017, 08:30:45 PM

We have to eliminate free-will.


To my way of thinking it's the difference in parenting styles.. one spanks and says "because I said so!"

But a wiser parent will tell a child why not to do a certain something or go a certain way..

It's why I believe He is letting 'choice' run its course, to PROVE to all once and for all, good and evil (life and death/nonlife). And I believe ultimately all will know good/life from death/evil.. will be filled to overflowing with Love because that is what He is.. Love and true humility and grace (gentleness, good will, esteeming others as better than self, putting others first, etc) will rule supreme..

Not because we cannot choose or make no choices whatsoever (because we are robotic? 100% programmed? or, i.e. have no rational powers/thinking ability at all.. I don't think that's what He is creating :smile: The only rational "choice" being Him and His will 100%% Because we know. And realize to choose life (Him) is the only rational and sane choice... that we simply cannot ever live life, without life - which is Him. (Who is also Perfection..so imperfection is..?)
:Peace2:


Title: Re: The Matrix has you
Post by: eaglesway on September 15, 2017, 01:31:41 AM
Love is the ultimate resolution, the ultimate evener, the ultimate reason and the ultimate Way. Nothing less suffices. Nothing less motivates obedience or grants freedom. All in All. God is love :o)
Title: Re: The Matrix has you
Post by: rosered on September 15, 2017, 04:18:37 AM
Quote from: eaglesway on September 15, 2017, 01:31:41 AM
Love is the ultimate resolution, the ultimate evener, the ultimate reason and the ultimate Way. Nothing less suffices. Nothing less motivates obedience or grants freedom. All in All. God is love :o)

  I totally agree  John  ,

  I do believe we seek love  , everything wants to be loved and  live ,  in a much bigger way than just   within our own selves . but the world  does not really offer love , but sacrifice .

  What would a man exchange for his soul ?  Not knowing  in this  world  everything  will come to nothing .

Our  true hope is in the Lord Jesus Christ .    It always has been and always will be , it is learning that  by many trials and errors,
Till the Lord comes to save that which is lost ..Psalm 37:7
Rest in the LORD and wait patiently for Him; Do not fret because of him who prospers in his way, Because of the man who carries out wicked schemes.

Given   Psalms 37   the other day to read  by prompting  , I had forgotten just how short  this  life really is and how God really does   make all the difference .
Title: Re: The Matrix has you
Post by: marie glen on September 15, 2017, 06:02:02 AM
Quote from: rosered on September 15, 2017, 04:18:37 AM

        God really does   make all the difference .


Amen Sister Rose, you said it! (Once again.)     ..and what a difference that is.. We are very blessed to know Him.. :HeartThrob: :HeartThrob:
Title: Re: The Matrix has you
Post by: Batty Bible Page on September 15, 2017, 09:12:19 PM
 
Quote from: marie glen on September 15, 2017, 06:02:02 AM
Quote from: rosered on September 15, 2017, 04:18:37 AM

        God really does   make all the difference .


Amen Sister Rose, you said it! (Once again.)     ..and what a difference that is.. We are very blessed to know Him.. :HeartThrob: :HeartThrob:

:dsunny: How can we not know our Father? He is an innate and holy sacred spirit within all of his creation. Us included.  :HeartThrob: