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Loveroftruth

Someone made this comment on another thread:

QuoteI'm desperate for the sons of God to wake up--manifest themselves--before any more people have to suffer.

What will the Sons of God do? What does it look like? Are we the sons or does scripture mean something else?

firstborn888

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Quote from: Loveroftruth on November 21, 2007, 12:50:20 PM
Someone made this comment on another thread:

QuoteI'm desperate for the sons of God to wake up--manifest themselves--before any more people have to suffer.

What will the Sons of God do? What does it look like? Are we the sons or does scripture mean something else?

we are the sons, no doubt. All creation is waiting on us, and we're waiting for the Father. I saw what happens next in a vision in '77. I don't claim to fully understand it though. I know full preterists have a different view, but what I saw definitely hasn't happened yet.

- b

Loveroftruth

Quote from: firstborn888 on November 21, 2007, 01:08:02 PM
Quote from: Loveroftruth on November 21, 2007, 12:50:20 PM
Someone made this comment on another thread:

QuoteI'm desperate for the sons of God to wake up--manifest themselves--before any more people have to suffer.

What will the Sons of God do? What does it look like? Are we the sons or does scripture mean something else?

we are the sons, no doubt. All creation is waiting on us, and we're waiting for the Father. I saw what happens next in a vision in '77. I don't claim to fully understand it though. I know full preterists have a different view, but was I saw definitely hasn't happened yet.

- b

Why dont you share some?

firstborn888

Quote from: Loveroftruth on November 21, 2007, 12:50:20 PM
What will the Sons of God do?

First, the host of witnesses will be dispersed evenly throughout the earth

Quote from: Loveroftruth on November 21, 2007, 12:50:20 PM
What does it look like?

After the cloud of witnesses is illuminated my a great beam of white light, all darkness and death on the earth will be swallowed up, a new order emerges then, an order of unimaginable splendour (new heavens *life reigns* new earth *all physical creation freed from the prison of corruption*.

It looks like one huge ball of rainbow.

Of course, this is all symbolic language, basically it means that "all will know Him, from the least to the greatest"

As far as the 'particulars' (and I suspect that was more what your question was about) I don't have a clue to the hows and whens. But I plan to find out :thumbsup:

             - b

firstborn888

I have not been a good steward of the vision. Hopefully, that will all change now. To be honest, I've ben somewhat backslidden for 25 years. After the vision I thought God and I were going to take over the world, and when an expectation that great fails to materialize it does strange things to you. Been in a desert for a long long time.
- b

hopeful

God bless you, Byron. 

Redlettervoice

Quote from: firstborn888 on November 21, 2007, 01:33:23 PM
I have not been a good steward of the vision. Hopefully, that will all change now. To be honest, I've ben somewhat backslidden for 25 years. After the vision I thought God and I were going to take over the world, and when an expectation that great fails to materialize it does strange things to you. Been in a desert for a long long time.
- b

Bryron! Brother! God has NOT "forgotten" His promise to YOU!  I saw something recently myself on
the "manifestation" of the Sons.  And the creation that is set free by that manifestation. It seemed
to me to be a "manifestation" of HIM "in and thru" the Sons........ I can't
prove it, not here to do that, but to share the part God has shown me.  The manifestation that we
all long for, not only they, but we who "have" the firstfruits, are praying that HE will "manifest" in
OUR Heavens.  Since "we" are HIS Body, It is that "behind the veil" manifestation of HIM that someone, maybe just ONE person,
is to be set free by YOUR "growing UP" til the Christ "manifests" in hidden places where NO MAN
can hinder!  ONLY He receives the GLORY for ONLY HE can do it! It seemed to be  a "manifestation" of HIM in us, doing what He has always done, the very same thing, piercing the darkness
of those we have prayed for.......so to speak. He ALONE will be exalted! Makes sense to me. And
I will be happy with that! As a matter of fact, I see it as a REWARD! Sure would be to me! Do we
expect MORE than God's Sons like David received? Do we expect more than Ezekiel was able to do,
when he divided the inheritance? Do we expect more than Peter who got "out" of the "prison"
........and was SET completely FREE? so used to the prison, that he could hardly believe it!?  Whom
the Son sets FREE is FREE indeed! Will God not move for "us" as He did people of old when "He seeth
that their POWER is gone?" Deut.  somewhere.  Is God not the same yesterday, today, and tomorrow.?
Our inheritance is Spirit......we are HEIRS of God! "GOD" ........and He divides it, sometimes "thru"
the Spirit in Ezekiel, or whoever, but it is always by the Spirit......and our "inheritance" is given
BY LOT!  That word LOT means "without man's choice or will."  That makes me sit down!  and HOPE!
God is so glorious and so merciful that He takes a man from the "dunghill" and sits HIM on the Throne!
Ask Hannah, she said it! He absolutely does what He wants to! I can't get HIM in this box. ha I think
we have all got to learn exactly what Neb did........and to really come to know that God ruleth
in the affairs of men and sets up whom He will.  Ain't easy to learn, sure ain't for me. Hasn't been
and still isn't. Just being honest!




Bless you.

noreputation

Quote from: firstborn888 on November 21, 2007, 01:33:23 PM
I have not been a good steward of the vision. Hopefully, that will all change now. To be honest, I've ben somewhat backslidden for 25 years. After the vision I thought God and I were going to take over the world, and when an expectation that great fails to materialize it does strange things to you. Been in a desert for a long long time.
- b

Dear brother,

Everything that is happening in your life is right on schedule according to God's time table.  Twenty-five years ago you were given a foretaste of what God is making a reality in your life.

Here is an excerpt from something I received in March of 2006:

http://www.theinwardjourney.net/blog/2007/02/12/the-breath-of-the-holy-spirit/
"Then He said to me, 'Prophesy to the breath; prophesy, son of man, and say to it, This is what the Sovereign Lord says: Come from the four winds, O breath, and breathe into these slain, that they may live.' So I prophesied as he commanded me, and breath entered them; they came to life and stood up on their feet – a vast army." Ezek 37:9-10 NIV

I believe this passage of scripture is a representation of what God is doing at this time.
There are many "out-of church" folk who have been slain by the trials and difficulties they have faced.  They are completely poured out and have nothing left to give.  They feel void of all spiritual life.  I know this to be true for I was one of them.  If you judge after outward appearances you will easily come to the conclusion that this group of lone rangers, have missed the voice of God and have fallen into complacency.

But I declare to you by the Holy Spirit, that the breath of God is gently breathing on these dry bones.  For there are many who have been slain by the difficulties they have faced and have given up on their pursuit of righteousness, but My breath shall come upon them, and cause them to become alive, for it has been My hand that has orchestrated the difficulties in their lives.  I have purposely hid what I was doing so that they would bare the reproach of the cross, and be utterly broken before me."

The last portion of the scripture in Ezekiel refers to a vast army.  I believe the army God is raising up at this time is not Joel's army as many think.  A more accurate picture of what is now happening is Ezekiel's army of dry bones coming to life.   

Some of you have thought your day had come and gone, while some have been holding on to what God spoke into your hearts so many years ago.  Be encouraged, the Holy Spirit is about to breathe upon you.  When He does you will see that He has been with you throughout your journey.  Not for a moment has He left you!

Another scripture that comes to mind is: 1 Kings 6:7.

"In building the temple, only blocks dressed at the quarry were used, and no hammer, chisel or any other iron tool was heard at the temple site while it was being built.

When the blocks for Solomon's Temple were made, all the hammering and chiseling took place in the quarry.  It was only after each stone had been shaped into the right dimensions so that it could fit perfectly with the other stones that it was brought to the temple location to be assembled.  What a wonderful picture this is of God's work in our lives! 

The hammer blows upon us are many as God shapes and chisels us into living stones that fit properly in the house not made with human hands.  God is building a masterpiece that will fit together perfectly!  But as each of us knows from experience, it is in the quarry where God is preparing us, and not in the glory of His temple. 

There are a great many new ones that are being called out unto the Lord at this time.  They are being taught directly by the Holy Spirit, but they will need true ministry that will encourage and confirm what God is speaking into their life. 

As God unfolds His masterpiece I believe we will be amazed with the detail of His plan and the synchronization of all that He is doing.  God is going to revive many of His lone rangers, while His kingdom is propagated throughout the earth, neighbor-to-neighbor, friend-to-friend.  This Holy move of God will also bring judgment on the false ministries that have been birthed from the soul of man.  The judgment will NOT be angry prophets shaking their fist, calling down fire from heaven.  What will bring the judgment is the bright light that will shine on all that God is doing, as it contrast the darkness and futility of all of man's efforts."  End of quote

Douglas

Loveroftruth

Doug,
Will this happen on OUR generation?

noreputation

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Quote from: Loveroftruth on November 21, 2007, 05:18:35 PM
Doug,
Will this happen on OUR generation?

I am under the impression that all this is unfolding NOW. 

Here is what strikes me as unique.  In the past there have been moves of the Spirit that could easily be traced back to an individual and their experience with God, or to an outpouring on a particular group.  People came from all over to visit and experience what was happening at Azusa Street.  Then when they experienced it they would leave and take the fire with them, or so it seemed.

If what I have seen is correct then this move of God we are in now is very unlike past known events.  It is truly an inward move of the Spirit coming upon the individual.  There are no attractions to go visit.  No going here or going there to find the Lord.  I think the nature of this move speaks of The Feast of Tabernacles.  Here is why.   In Pentecost the Spirit of God came upon the 120 at the same time like a mighty rushing wind.  Also, Pentecost is very much about the power that comes upon us to be witnesses.  Pentecost has very little to do with spiritual maturity, for the gifts of the Spirit are freely given and are not contingent upon maturity and walking upright before God.  That is why we have seen different ones who were able to function under an anointing while living in sin. 

Tabernacles was a very personal feast in that you were all alone with God in your little booth.  Doesn't that sound like what is happening to us?  Pentecost was very much a public display that everyone knew about.  There is no fanfare with Tabernacles.  We don't see any big displays to get excited about because this move is internal.  It will only be recognized after the fact due to the life that is being expressed through us.

These are just some of my thoughts based on what I feel the Lord has allowed me to see.  I don't claim to have an exhaustive revelation.

Doug


Kept

That last post is awesome Doug  :thumbsup:

kept

hopeful

Yes!  Amen!  This bears witness with me as well!   :HeartThrob:

Cardinal

 :cloud9: Amen Doug, good post. If I could add one thought......the WHOLE FAMILY brought branches to put on the booths. The booths were built on the ground/earth, the branches came from up in the "air/heaven". We are all putting branches of the spiritual wisdom we gleaned from the tree of life, and COVERING each other.

Sorta bringing heaven to earth and making them agree with one another. And there are no roots going down into the earth in THESE trees/dwelling places, cause death is not allowed. Ain't He kewl, LOL? Every little thing, speaks to us. I love You, Lord. Blessings to all.......
"I would rather train twenty men to pray, than a thousand to preach; A minister's highest mission ought to be to teach his people to pray." -H. MacGregor

noreputation

Quote from: Cardinal on November 21, 2007, 10:31:27 PM
:cloud9: Amen Doug, good post. If I could add one thought......the WHOLE FAMILY brought branches to put on the booths. The booths were built on the ground/earth, the branches came from up in the "air/heaven". We are all putting branches of the spiritual wisdom we gleaned from the tree of life, and COVERING each other.

Sorta bringing heaven to earth and making them agree with one another. And there are no roots going down into the earth in THESE trees/dwelling places, cause death is not allowed. Ain't He kewl, LOL? Every little thing, speaks to us. I love You, Lord. Blessings to all.......


I am glad to hear that God is speaking the same things to each of us -- that is always encouraging!

Cardinal,

You bring up an interesting thought ..."We are all putting branches of the spiritual wisdom we gleaned from the tree of life, and COVERING each other."

What does our ministry to one another look like?

For many years I experienced times when God would bring me together with others for confirmation and encouragement.  There were also writers like Ray Prinzing and J. Preston Eby and others who were able to articulate what God was speaking to so many.
That was what I was use to for most of the last thirty years.  The exception was when I came in contact with someone who was still plugged in to the Matrix (religious mind).

What I see mostly now is a lot of raw elbows rubbing each other as God uses our imperfections to create perfection.  It was not what I had expected at all.  Nevertheless, I believe God is using EVERYTHING including our fellowship to bring us completion.  It seems to me that He is more concerned about exposing those last parts of "self" than sweet fellowship.

Has anyone else had similar experiences?

Loveroftruth

#14
QuoteWhat I see mostly now is a lot of raw elbows rubbing each other as God uses our imperfections to create perfection.  It was not what I had expected at all.  Nevertheless, I believe God is using EVERYTHING including our fellowship to bring us completion.  It seems to me that He is more concerned about exposing those last parts of "self" than sweet fellowship.

Hey Doug

Are you talking about me  :mlaugh: :mlaugh: :mlaugh: :mlaugh: :mlaugh:

Just call me a gift from God for your perfection  :mrflo: :mrflo:

hopeful

The raw elbow company...  Yup!   :winkgrin:


firstborn888

Quote from: noreputation on November 22, 2007, 01:06:45 AMWhat I see mostly now is a lot of raw elbows rubbing each other as God uses our imperfections to create perfection.  It was not what I had expected at all.  Nevertheless, I believe God is using EVERYTHING including our fellowship to bring us completion.  It seems to me that He is more concerned about exposing those last parts of "self" than sweet fellowship.

Has anyone else had similar experiences?

Same here, really, like "anything that can be shaken WILL be shaken". I didn't see it coming either. The results though have been splendid.
- b

noreputation

Quote from: Loveroftruth on November 22, 2007, 02:12:44 AM
QuoteWhat I see mostly now is a lot of raw elbows rubbing each other as God uses our imperfections to create perfection.  It was not what I had expected at all.  Nevertheless, I believe God is using EVERYTHING including our fellowship to bring us completion.  It seems to me that He is more concerned about exposing those last parts of "self" than sweet fellowship.

Hey Doug

Are you talking about me  :mlaugh: :mlaugh: :mlaugh: :mlaugh: :mlaugh:

Just call me a gift from God for your perfection  :mrflo: :mrflo:



Yeah, when I first met you I was just a lump of coal.  Now I am a shiney diamond.  :laughing7:

Redlettervoice





Quoting Cardinal from this thread: where she said:

Quote......the WHOLE FAMILY brought branches to put on the booths. The booths were built on the ground/earth, the branches came from up in the "air/heaven". We are all putting branches of the spiritual wisdom we gleaned from the tree of life, and COVERING each other.

And there shall come forth a ROD out of the STEM of Jesse, and a BRANCH shall grow out of HIS
ROOTS! 

Jesus came, and when He is raised UP "in you and I", He still is the Branch........

That's good, Cardnial............now we know what the "branches" are that made booths!

Sounds like the "feast" of "tabernacles" does it not?........Now remember what Jesus said, "I am the vine,
ye are the "branches" ........"except ye abide in me," etc. Ye can do nothing w/o ME, He said.

That sure is true! COVERING one another with the spiritual wisdom He has given us.  I like that.

Yet it must be HIM. For w/o HIM, "ye" can do nothing!  We sure used to think people could tho!

Lordy, Miss 'Clordy!






firstborn888

Quote from: Redlettervoice on November 21, 2007, 03:33:23 PMI can't prove it, not here to do that, but to share the part God has shown me. 
Thanks for sharing 'your part' as we are incomplete without it.

  - byron

noreputation

Quote from: firstborn888 on November 22, 2007, 02:48:06 AM
Quote from: noreputation on November 22, 2007, 01:06:45 AMWhat I see mostly now is a lot of raw elbows rubbing each other as God uses our imperfections to create perfection.  It was not what I had expected at all.  Nevertheless, I believe God is using EVERYTHING including our fellowship to bring us completion.  It seems to me that He is more concerned about exposing those last parts of "self" than sweet fellowship.

Has anyone else had similar experiences?

Same here, really, like "anything that can be shaken WILL be shaken". I didn't see it coming either. The results though have been splendid.
- b

If any of us had seen it comin' we would have ran the other way! 

I look forward to hearing more from you and what the Lord is now speaking to your heart.

Blessings,

Doug

Kratos

We live in the day of the 7th church which is Laodicea. Laodicea means "ruled by the laity" or "congregationally ruled". At the beginning of church age, Jesus is seen in the midst of the candlesticks or in the center of the churches. But, by the end of the age, He is outside the lukewarm church that says that they are rich and in need of nothing, but they do not even know that they are poor and naked as they no longer have Him.

So, what does the Lord do in an age when His very church goes with majority rule and will not let Him in lest He again rule as the Head of the church and the Lord of our lives? He knocks and knocks from outside the camp appealing to "any man" who will open the door and let Him in so He can sup with them. Having spewed out the corporate church that denies Him as its Head, He meets outside of the organized church with individuals on a one-on-one basis and feeds them with truth that has never been heard within Laodicea.

This is all a part of God's plan and will lead to this remnant on the outside to become the manifest sons of God who will individually do what Laodicea could not do corporately. They will set at liberty the creation in His Name.

John

Hennessey

QuoteIf any of us had seen it comin' we would have ran the other way! 

Oh my, I did run and that didn't work
either. He nailed me  :laughing7:

Good analogy John! I enjoyed it.

Jack

firstborn888

Quote from: Hennessey on November 22, 2007, 08:19:15 AM
QuoteIf any of us had seen it comin' we would have ran the other way! 

Oh my, I did run and that didn't work
either. He nailed me  :laughing7:

It's like those scary movies where you turn and run from a ghost but it keeps appearing right in front of you :mshock:  :laughing7:

- byron

hopeful

Quote from: Hennessey on November 22, 2007, 08:19:15 AM

Oh my, I did run and that didn't work
either. He nailed me  :laughing7:

And I'm so glad He did!

Thank you, Lord for Jack.
Supply His every need.


:HeartThrob: