Snake bit

[micah7:9]

How about that snake bit Pentcostal preacher who died on his reality show from a snake bite?
Got bit but would not take any medical assistance. Faith?
Spurious verses Mark 16:9-20-- All these verses.

Might have something to do with it or maybe just being a fool? :dontknow:

[ed]

Galatians 6:7 Be not deceived; God is not mocked: for whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap.
8 For he that soweth to his flesh shall of the flesh reap corruption; but he that soweth to the Spirit shall of the Spirit reap life everlasting.

Guess he was sowing to the flesh.......maybe just didn't know it.

[micah7:9]

I just find the handling of serpent(poisonous snakes) and drinking poison as not biblical. And your Gal.6 is pretty biblical. :Peace2:

[WhiteWings]

Idiom #39 - Snakes & poison

The misunderstanding of this idiom actually killed Christians who understood it literally.

(Mark 16:18 [CLV])
they will be picking up serpents; and if they should be drinking anything deadly, it should under no circumstances be harming them; they will be placing hands on those who are ailing, and ideally will they be having it."

Serpents can literally mean serpent/snake/viper.
Jesus called the Scribes vipers. Satan is often called serpent. I don't know how satan looks, but I doubt it's a literal snake. The scribes very likely looked 100% human too.
Like in English a snake/viper/serpent can also mean a bad person. An enemy.

"pick up snakes" = "handling an enemy"

"anything deadly"=Poison = false teachings. They won't be poisoned (aka deceived) by hearing false teachings.


BTW, it's this very type of poison that kills 1/3 of the 'rivers' in Revelation because just as poison isn't literal poison so aren't rivers literal rivers.

[anna274]

WW -- Many, many thanks for the many, many idioms you have brought to this forum... I have been able to connect many, many dots especially in my ongoing, growing opinion that the physical realities reveal/teach spiritual truths.

re: Poison=false teachings.  They won't be poisoned (aka deceived) by hearing false teachings.

[ed]

Idiom #39 - Snakes & poison

The misunderstanding of this idiom actually killed Christians who understood it literally.

(Mark 16:18 [CLV])
they will be picking up serpents; and if they should be drinking anything deadly, it should under no circumstances be harming them; they will be placing hands on those who are ailing, and ideally will they be having it."

Serpents can literally mean serpent/snake/viper.
Jesus called the Scribes vipers. Satan is often called serpent. I don't know how satan looks, but I doubt it's a literal snake. The scribes very likely looked 100% human too.
Like in English a snake/viper/serpent can also mean a bad person. An enemy.

"pick up snakes" = "handling an enemy"

"anything deadly"=Poison = false teachings. They won't be poisoned (aka deceived) by hearing false teachings.


BTW, it's this very type of poison that kills 1/3 of the 'rivers' in Revelation because just as poison isn't literal poison so aren't rivers literal rivers.

Thanks, shared your answer on another forum.

Here is another verse that is in context.  I'm reading and being judged by 1 Corinthians.

1 Corinthians 10:9 Neither let us tempt Christ, as some of them also tempted, and were destroyed of serpents.

[sheila]

 :thumbsup:  another thing...in the wilderness temptation.........satan tried to get Jesus to tempt God.....

   that is what I feel these poor souls have stumbled upon and fallen into.


  literally..the serpent that clung to Paul's hand..and the islanders that mistakenly thought 'divine justice'

  or the law...with the accusor'satan/serpent" had caught up with Paul...found that Paul's former sins

were not counted against him..but the grace of God was with him...and Paul through faith in Christ

was able to shake it off into the fire.

        the serpent..symbolizing the adversarym temptor and accusor of the brethern

[micah7:9]

I believe that the idom's work even if these verses Mark 16:9-20-- are spurious.

[rosered]

 

  Thanks  WW ,  I think everyone should know this  , it helps sooo much to know a few things , this being one of them !  I just want to add  some more   for
    the sake of clarity  because it helped me so much.
Dan was not sealed in the 144 thousand  !!  big clue as to why


Gen 49:16   Dan shall judge his people, as one of the tribes of Israel. 


Gen 49:17   Dan shall be a serpent by the way, an adder in the path, that biteth the horse heels, so that his rider shall fall backward.  \


Deu 32:33 Their wine is the poison of dragons, and the cruel venom of asps.

wine  being the  the blood/life  of a covenant    the wine is new in Jesus kingdom representing  His blood of grapes new clusters on the Vine / Him !


Job 20:16 He shall suck the poison of asps: the viper's tongue shall slay him.


Rom 3:13 Their throat is an open sepulchre; with their tongues they have used deceit; the poison of asps is under their lips:


  a serpent  means wisdom  of men  verse the Wisdom of God !

  Jesus showed His  wisdom here in this  verse


Jhn 12:28   Father, glorify thy name. Then came there a voice from heaven, saying, I have both glorified it, and will glorify it again. 


Jhn 12:29   The people therefore, that stood by, and heard it, said that it thundered: others said, An angel spake to him. 


Jhn 12:30   Jesus answered and said, This voice came not because of me, but for your sakes. 


Jhn 12:31   Now is the judgment of this world: now shall the prince of this world be cast out. 


Jhn 12:32   And I, if I be lifted up from the earth, will draw all men unto me.  


Jhn 12:33   This he said, signifying what death he should die.


  the pole   of moses
lifting up the  bronze serpent  is a picture of Jesus being  on the Cross

  when we  accept Jesus Christ  dying on the cross and LOOK TO HIM   for forgivenss of  our sins we also shall Live !


Num 21:8 And the LORD said unto Moses, Make thee a fiery serpent, and set it upon a pole: and it shall come to pass, that every one that is bitten, when he looketh upon it, shall live.
Num 21:9 And Moses made a serpent of brass, and put it upon a pole, and it came to pass, that if a serpent had bitten any man, when he beheld the serpent of brass, he lived


Jhn 3:14   And as Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness, even so must the Son of man be lifted up: 
That whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have eternal life.



.Strong's H5175 - nachash
serpent, snake

serpent

image (of serpent)

fleeing serpent (mythological)



Strong's G3789 - ophis

Probably from ὀπτάνομαι (G3700) (through the idea of sharpness of vision)

snake, serpent

with the ancients, the serpent was an emblem of cunning and wisdom. The serpent who deceived Eve was regarded by the Jews as the devil.

when we look to Jesus as the  salvation for our   souls   we behold/SEE  the  Wisdom of God !

the wisdom of men is the imaginations and false  teachings of the  doctines of demons

1Cr 1:24 But unto them which are called, both Jews and Greeks, Christ the power of God, and the wisdom of God.


1Cr 2:5 That your faith should not stand in the wisdom of men, but in the power of God.


There are some amazing connections  in the Word of God  that open up many  of the hidden mysteries  of Jesus  sayings and the prophets   and apostles   declaring   Truth 

Thanks for this thread   , it helps to  look again  and again !

[sheila]

  the seven sons of Sceva is another example.   also.....a mere infant put his hand in a nest of vipers and no

t be harmed...........symbolizes even 'babes' in Christ even though in a den of iniquity..shall not be

harmed[men as carnal babes in Babyln's religious institutions]for they shall grow and mature and hear

His call to 'come out of her my people"..........and the poisonous doctrines they had afore paartook of

  shall cause them no harm.   His truth has a way of 'neutralizing' those poisonous doctrines.

   

[rosered]

:thumbsup:  another thing...in the wilderness temptation.........satan tried to get Jesus to tempt God.....

   that is what I feel these poor souls have stumbled upon and fallen into.


  literally..the serpent that clung to Paul's hand..and the islanders that mistakenly thought 'divine justice'

  or the law...with the accusor'satan/serpent" had caught up with Paul...found that Paul's former sins

were not counted against him..but the grace of God was with him...and Paul through faith in Christ

was able to shake it off into the fire.

        the serpent..symbolizing the adversarym temptor and accusor of the brethern

    awesome Shelia
   thought of that too !!       as many are given to  speak THRUTH in righteousness    , they are the sons of God and NO HARM   comes to them

  the doctrines of men are nothing  the idols   of mens vain imaginations are ''   cast into the fire to be burned

  meatphorically / spiritually speaking   they ''come to nothing ''

found the versses

Act 28:1 ¶ And when they were escaped, then they knew that the island was called Melita. 


Act 28:2   And the barbarous people shewed us no little kindness: for they kindled a fire, and received us every one, because of the present rain, and because of the cold. 

Jesus come to send Fire on the earth  and divisons [Luke 12 :49]
 
the cold being as the  dead  and cold tombs of  mens   hearts/ minds

Act 28:3   And when Paul had gathered a bundle of sticks, and laid them on the fire, there came a viper out of the heat, and fastened on his hand. 

gathering sticks      the works of mens hands [power] Paul was gathering   the withered  works   to cast in the fire

   Jhn 15:6 If a man abide not in me, he is cast forth as a branch, and is withered; and men gather them, and cast them into the fire, and they are burned.


Act 28:4   And when the barbarians saw the venomous beast hang on his hand, they said among themselves, No doubt this man is a murderer, whom, though he hath escaped the sea, yet vengeance suffereth not to live. 

a    wicked  one began to     speak against Paul to subdue him ,  and yet  Paul was able to  shake off  into the fire  without any harm


Act 28:5   And he shook off the beast into the fire, and felt no harm. 


Act 28:6   Howbeit they looked when he should have swollen, or fallen down dead suddenly: but after they had looked a great while, and saw no harm come to him, they changed their minds, and said that he was a god. 


the repentance and change of minds come to many whom Paul showed the  LIGHT OF CHRIST in the fires /divisions

[WhiteWings]

Deu 32:33 Their wine is the poison of dragons, and the cruel venom of asps.

The harlot of Babylon was/is drunk with wine too. Wine of false teachings (adultery with false gods). The verse compares it with poison of dragons. In Revelation the serpent and dragon are called the same. Combined with the venom of asps it's clear, to me, the venom is about satanic lies/teachings.

wine  being the  the blood/life  of a covenant    the wine is new in Jesus kingdom representing  His blood of grapes new clusters on the Vine / Him !

Correct but incomplete. Satan has counter covenants. He also pours wine so to speak. While Jesus pours wine of Truth/life satan pours wine of deception/death. --> The harlot is drunk on that wine.

Job 20:16 He shall suck the poison of asps: the viper's tongue shall slay him.

Rom 3:13 Their throat is an open sepulchre; with their tongues they have used deceit; the poison of asps is under their lips:

Two more great verses Rosey. The slaying toungue kills with false teachings. The throat is again about speech/deadly teachings.

.Strong's H5175 - nachash
serpent, snake

serpent

image (of serpent)

fleeing serpent (mythological)

And enchanter/wizard.

[rosered]

Deu 32:33 Their wine is the poison of dragons, and the cruel venom of asps.

The harlot of Babylon was/is drunk with wine too. Wine of false teachings (adultery with false gods). The verse compares it with poison of dragons. In Revelation the serpent and dragon are called the same. Combined with the venom of asps it's clear, to me, the venom is about satanic lies/teachings.

wine  being the  the blood/life  of a covenant    the wine is new in Jesus kingdom representing  His blood of grapes new clusters on the Vine / Him !

Correct but incomplete. Satan has counter covenants. He also pours wine so to speak. While Jesus pours wine of Truth/life satan pours wine of deception/death. --> The harlot is drunk on that wine.

Job 20:16 He shall suck the poison of asps: the viper's tongue shall slay him.

Rom 3:13 Their throat is an open sepulchre; with their tongues they have used deceit; the poison of asps is under their lips:

Two more great verses Rosey. The slaying toungue kills with false teachings. The throat is again about speech/deadly teachings.

.Strong's H5175 - nachash
serpent, snake

serpent

image (of serpent)

fleeing serpent (mythological)

And enchanter/wizard.

AWESOME ! THANKS TONY !!!  AKA WW!
wonderful additions    beautiful    truths   :thumbsup:

[anna274]

Idiom #39 - Snakes & poison

The misunderstanding of this idiom actually killed Christians who understood it literally.

(Mark 16:18 [CLV])
they will be picking up serpents; and if they should be drinking anything deadly, it should under no circumstances be harming them; they will be placing hands on those who are ailing, and ideally will they be having it."

Serpents can literally mean serpent/snake/viper.
Jesus called the Scribes vipers. Satan is often called serpent. I don't know how satan looks, but I doubt it's a literal snake. The scribes very likely looked 100% human too.
Like in English a snake/viper/serpent can also mean a bad person. An enemy.

"pick up snakes" = "handling an enemy"

"anything deadly"=Poison = false teachings. They won't be poisoned (aka deceived) by hearing false teachings.


BTW, it's this very type of poison that kills 1/3 of the 'rivers' in Revelation because just as poison isn't literal poison so aren't rivers literal rivers.

Thanks, shared your answer on another forum.

Here is another verse that is in context.  I'm reading and being judged by 1 Corinthians.

1 Corinthians 10:9 Neither let us tempt Christ, as some of them also tempted, and were destroyed of serpents.

and thank you ed
re:  being judged by 1 Cor
opened up a whole new,and potentially, a very long study on God's righteous judgments... of special interest to me because of my ongoing study of Psalm 119, which BTW has six verses wherein these two words (righteous/judgments) Ps 119:7, 62, 106, 137, 160, 164. also in Dt. 4:8 and Jer 12:1...   In NT:  Rev 16:7; Rev 19:2... well I must be off to study...  I "love" studying the Word of God...

and thank you Sheila, rosered, and WW for your replies... I'm always edified, encouraged, educated by all your posts.   God's richest blessings on all of you... let us pray that we all continue to grow in grace and in the knowledge of our Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ --Savior of ALL men.

[WhiteWings]

... and several women  :laugh:

[rosered]

  Thank you Anna , you are  a blessing   and  uplifting  to  the Body of Christ as I desire to be also !!   :HeartThrob:

[ed]

BTW, it's this very type of poison that kills 1/3 of the 'rivers' in Revelation because just as poison isn't literal poison so aren't rivers literal rivers.

WW,
Do you have a good link for this particular teaching?

:Peace2:

[WhiteWings]

Not really. Only my own head  :LH:
But I can give my thoughts on it.

Grass: Common people.
Trees: Leaders.
Mountains: Places of authority. Large kindoms.
Hills: Smaller kingdoms.
Islands: Usually a peaceful place surrounded by violent kingdoms. Or just vastly different societies.
Sea: Nations.
Ships: People who spread God's word.
Stars: Angels.
Sun: Jesus (teachings)
Moon: Law



Revelation 8:8-9 "The second angel sounded his trumpet, and something like a huge mountain, all ablaze, was thrown into the sea. A third of the sea turned into blood, a third of the living creatures in the sea died, and a third of the ships were destroyed."

Ships are those who spread God's word. Meaning Rev tells us they get deceived.
Proverbs 31:10-14 "A wife of noble character who can find? She is worth far more than rubies. Her husband has full confidence in her and lacks nothing of value. She brings him good, not harm, all the days of her life. She selects wool and flax and works with eager hands. She is like the merchant ships, bringing her food from afar."

The wife is of noble character is a ship transporting good stuff to her husband. Because the ship/wife sails a non-literal sea it's can be safely assumed her good cargo isn't literal food; but items like 'the bread of Christ'. The ships carry the Gospel, good news. They are preachers and evangelists of God's Word. A third of them get martyred.


Living creatures are believers. All others are already dead. The creatures fall for false doctrine.
Jesus spoke about living dead: Luke 9:60 Jesus said to him, "Let the dead bury their own dead, but you go and proclaim the kingdom of God."



The serpents are false doctrine I posted about in earlier in this thread.
Scripture has 4 layers and imo all the deaths in Revelation are about falling for false doctrine.

etc

[ed]

Thanks.

I've been a Christian for a couple of decades............Revelation is a new book to me.   Kinda crazy I know, but I have successfully avoided it for too long.

.

[WhiteWings]

I'm not even a Christian for half a decade, but always felt attracted to puzzles I'm unable to crack. But I didn't intend to study Revelation at all. It's where I ended when studying marriage. And yes, Revelation is a lot about wedding.

[marie glen]

I never tire of the Book of revelation because in it I believe is the culmination.. and the eternal (foundation) lesson..

- wander away from God (who is life and also perfection) and you become imperfect the opposite of life ((snake bit!))


The whoLe lesson? Apocalypse, the unveiling. To wander away from God/Life/Perfection can only ever end in a self destructive puff of smoke... the dust of which will rise up - be remembered - forever and ever.

Cancel or misread Revelation... misunderstand the purpose of God???

Imo, the global harlot? man's great $ity going global on 7 continents - this $iTy/empire embraced "harlot" the Greek, "pornos" (ppl have a hard time acknowledging that) -

"Global seducing and enchanting of the nations" in one hour she crashes and in a day she falls - all your/her high towers will fall..

Is there false religion? It's engraved on her forehead "mystery Babble" aLL untruth, "responsible for aLL shed blood on earth.. since Cain slew Abel.. all error.. all untruth.. Babble. (last verse rev 18; ALL slain) Babble - 1st Tower (of)

The 666 guy? verse 13:13 (interesting numbers) - this office brought fire, in the sight of men, to earth..
this is revelation 13:11-18

The biG beast.. world beast.. a world governing with many heads, many horns.. one day the little beast/office will step into the big beast, giving it breath/authority.. (13:1-10)

it will make a 7 year (world? peace? mideast?) treaty, covenant, agreement, league..

the world beast always is, then isn't, then is again.

The final one is different from yesteryear's..

Ecological woes on land, trees, rivers.. etc..

the seals of God are a lock on the vision. (imo)

by being described as a blend of two things,

what they are at the first

and what they are at the 'end' in their fully progressed (galloped) form.

Hence, things which occur veRy late on the planet

are described here SO early in the narrative. Lock. Misunderstood. Closed. Confusing the vision.

Seal six.. same as 13:13. It is paused -  7:1 - we are in that pause (imo:) & Tribes of Israel R being "called".

When seal 6 is no longer paused, we will clearly know the 7th seal has been opened

and the 7 trumps are lined up and ready to sound.. i.e. things escalate.

The re-occurrence of seal 6 (13:13) albeit "limited" harms trees.. grasses...

Mountain burning with fire? idk...

Bitterness of rivers.. not hard to understand in this day and age.. for instance "acid rain"...?

1/3 of the ships in the sea... trade... (imo) represents trade.. in old world, known as ships in sea.. (and caravans)


When the harlot (sell! sell! via "pornos"the greek word used) crashes (in one hour) the merchants who were made rich by her will weep

for no one buys their long list of necessities and luxuries anymore.. right down to the bodies and lives of humans... (sex slave trade, etc)


The kings/politicians are in bed with her. (Fornicating with her.)


In HER hands is a GoLden cup of curses/side effects of her pornos

~ murders, abortions, perversions, sex slave trade, hiv, dissolution of families and cultures.. those who love her will have to drink the cup down

i.e - the fullness of the side effects in her golden cup..


One more revelation character... besides the empire $iTy gone global[#1]..

man's governing gone global, world beast[#2]

the office which brought fire from the sky, persuading mankind to rebuild the world beast/body[#3]

---- "mystery babble the psyche(forehead) of said world empire, all untruth,babble[#4]

[#5] = the false prophet / teaching - which does btw prophecy causing men to once again 'look to the stars'

believing the earth was 'seeded' from somewhere else.. from those serpent 'gods' which came from the dragon 'gods'.. i..e et's all the rage.. dark entities/guess who?

but I stray [#5] the false prophet / teaching which turned western civilization on its ear!?

Overturned Christendom. "Went before" clearing the way for all the rest [#s 1-4!]


CLUES:
Babylon was the first monetary system

the false prophet began as a man

but is now a white frocked magician

producing modern wonders and miracles, what will 'he' brew up next? 666 apparatus?

gave the little beast/office the fire of 13:13 (seal 6)

  2nd Lock. There are three or perhaps 4 inserts in the middle of the Book of Revelation!! ch 10, 11?? 12, 13

10, 12, 13 all complete on their own. All therefor so misread. Not seen as inserts.. like the 2nd creation of man in Gen 2 is an insert to the one of Gen 1.

(I may no longer believe chap 11 is an insert, due to threads/studies read here on TM.)


  "manchild" / Son of man - Hebrew 1:3 & Rev 12:5


  Rev 16:14+15+16 = 14(15)16 = 14,16+15!!


  The ten horns/toes/division of the last hours world beast/body will devour the harlot (sell! sell! via "pornos")

  capitalism (gone extreme and pornos) will be devoured (finally) by socialism/last hours world body/beast..

  the dove (gone extreme) will compatriot with the vulture? -  rev 20:4 - beheadings

  imo, 666 hums along for 45 days, with the last "ten days" becoming critical (from cannot buy or sell to will be killed) - do the math -  Daniel 12:11,12 (will be persecutions before the last 45 days?)


MORE CLUES:

  Rev 12:4 = (imo) in the person of Herod

  Rev 12:6 = a 1st primary migration of the faith

  Rev 12:5 = half the battle won - dragon no more access to heavens

  Rev 12:13 persecutions ='s inquisitions

  Rev 12:14 given wings of an eagle, 2nd primary migration of the faith

  Rev 12:15 a proliferation from the serpent guise of the dragon/opposer in hopes of washing the faith off the earth (pornos release 1620+350=1970's)

  Rev 12:16 - Drought!! Cross ref - Jesus carrying His cross "don't weep for me women, but for childrens' children, for if they do this (crucify me) in a green leaf, whAt will they do in a dry leaf??? (666?)

:smile: :hiya: Peace & Blessings...!



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[rosered]

 


Love your summary Marie glen !!!   awesome  :thumbsup:
  Oh my !
The Greek word for "fornication" is "porneia", which means harlotry (including ... Looking at a word such as porneia (proveuo, porna, pornos]

[marie glen]

Love your summary Marie glen !!!   awesome  :thumbsup:
  Oh my !
The Greek word for "fornication" is "porneia", which means harlotry (including ... Looking at a word such as porneia (proveuo, porna, pornos]

amen, Rosered,

Jesus said, "you have made My Father's house a house of merchandise"..

[rosered]

Love your summary Marie glen !!!   awesome  :thumbsup:
  Oh my !
The Greek word for "fornication" is "porneia", which means harlotry (including ... Looking at a word such as porneia (proveuo, porna, pornos]

amen, Rosered,

Jesus said, "you have made My Father's house a house of merchandise"..

  wow!!   you made me think of  the lust  ,  to look upon her [woman as Babylon ] Jesus was saying  Marie !

Is She the woman Jesus is  warning about   if you read Matt 5 in  its context  ?


I have to look at things simple  and of one or the other , not complicating   His Word with a lot of  other things ..  a simplicty    or I get off   the train of thought   :sigh:

one woman as His body true church Christ  or the other woman , harlot   of the world

Mat 5:28 But I say unto you, That whosoever looketh on a woman to lust after her hath committed adultery with her already in his heart.
   some  comparing of  the lust scriptures 

Jam 1:15 Then when lust hath conceived, it bringeth forth sin: and sin, when it is finished, bringeth forth death.
Jam 4:2 Ye lust, and have not: ye kill, and desire to have, and cannot obtain: ye fight and war, yet ye have not, because ye ask not.
2Pe 1:4 Whereby are given unto us exceeding great and precious promises: that by these ye might be partakers of the divine nature, having escaped the corruption that is in the world through lust. 2Pe 2:10 But chiefly them that walk after the flesh in the lust of uncleanness, and despise government. Presumptuous are they, selfwilled, they are not afraid to speak evil of dignities.
1Jo 2:16 For all that is in the world, the lust of the flesh, and the lust of the eyes, and the pride of life, is not of the Father, but is of the world.


1Jo 2:17 And the world passeth away, and the lust thereof: but he that doeth the will of God abideth for ever.

[marie glen]

one woman as His body true church Christ  or the other woman , harlot   of the world

Mat 5:28 But I say unto you, That whosoever looketh on a woman to lust after her hath committed adultery with her already in his heart.
   some  comparing of  the lust scriptures 

Jam 1:15 Then when lust hath conceived, it bringeth forth sin: and sin, when it is finished, bringeth forth death.
Jam 4:2 Ye lust, and have not: ye kill, and desire to have, and cannot obtain: ye fight and war, yet ye have not, because ye ask not.
2Pe 1:4 Whereby are given unto us exceeding great and precious promises: that by these ye might be partakers of the divine nature, having escaped the corruption that is in the world through lust. 2Pe 2:10 But chiefly them that walk after the flesh in the lust of uncleanness, and despise government. Presumptuous are they, selfwilled, they are not afraid to speak evil of dignities.
1Jo 2:16 For all that is in the world, the lust of the flesh, and the lust of the eyes, and the pride of life, is not of the Father, but is of the world.


1Jo 2:17 And the world passeth away, and the lust thereof: but he that doeth the will of God abideth for ever.

I think you are right!  :thumbsup: (definitely onto something!)


        "the love of money is the root of all evil.."

City Babylon, has on her forehead, foundation? psyche?.. "mystery babble" all untruth... responsible for all slain upon earth (all!) Rev 18:24-last verse

the other woman, the harlot.. the world.. man's 'empire'

goes global..? seduces 7 continents? (hills) going global

(the harlot is) "a golden cup (Rev.17:4) in the LORD'S hand, that made all the earth drunk: the nations have drank of her wine" (liberty gone too far, shook fist at heaven)

Isa 47::8 Therefore hear now this, [thou that art] given to pleasures, that dwells carelessly...

the multitude of thy sorceries, [and] for the great abundance of thine enchantments. (Rev.18:23)

:10 For you have trusted in your wickedness. .....Thy wisdom and thy knowledge, it has perverted thee

:11 Therefore shall evil come upon thee; you ''shalt not know from whence it riseth:'' and mischief.."


(capital city of and all its branches?) ...shall become heaps ...in one day (Jer 51:37)

"come out of her my people"

.."Alas, alas, that great city, where in, were made rich all that had ships in the sea (trade) by reason of her costliness! ''for in one hour is she made desolate.'' (broke?)

thy merchants were the great men of the earth;
by thy sorceries were all nations deceived-(strong's #4105 "roam, go astray, seduce.....")

God bless, Rosered..! :smile: