outside of measured time

[fire walker]

     It appears that spirits exist outside of measured time: Example:
the spirit of the pharisees was here before the actual advent of the
people who became the pharisees in measured time here in this world;
the same can be applied to all the other spirits in the churches and the  hundreds of denominations. The division appears from my personal viewpoint to increase and scatter to a point that there is so
many pieces they can't be measured by mankind in measured time.
     While temporary we live here in measured time that time can't
be sped up or slowed down, we can neither speed up nor slow down
when measured time ends for us nor life to come will be.
     There is no jumping the line ahead of our own turn nor putting off our own turn as one by one we  absent our temporary house to be home with the Lord. flesh and blood to flesh and bone in the twinkling
of an eye, all to the glory of God, (as I perceive). God placed these spirits
here in this world for the purpose of letting us experience an exercise in futility while we groan with the rest of creation.
   I suppose I could have just posted romans 8:20 and all verses beyond that romans 21, 22  and etc to better clarify part of what I was trying to convey here on this topic as well as other bible verses here and there in the bible however  I have no desire to remain in formalities and traditions of men nor to conform to this world.
            [size=78%]Blessings, fire walker[/size]




 

   

[marie glen]

for the purpose of letting us experience an exercise in futility

       :thumbsup: :thumbsup: I absolutely agree with that. As a matter of fact, just lately I've been wondering if this whole thing - letting imperfection (opposite of God/Life/Perfection) run its course.. bottomless pit of potential and all.. for it can only ever result in apocalypse/ruin. Proving, ultimately, good from evil (life from death,nonlife).. oops, wondering if the whole deal is we are all being inoculated. Vaccinated! :laughing7: (I'm serious though) against evil/imperfection (missing the mark, translated, sin).

Everything when it dies.. a flower, a leaf.. the spark and spirit of life of it returns to God who gave it.. Greatly condensed, it is the Holy Spirit! He is so orderly and organized. Writing.. actually deeply engraving upon every heart, mind and psyche/"soul" The-Way.. of Love. The ONLY "way". Why resurrect all from their graves if He's not going to save "all"?!
    :Peace2:

[eaglesway]

It is our reaction to futility that determines our passage through the chaos(without form and void). We are "predestined to be conformed to the image of His Son". Those who overcome are those who no longer respond to futility(bondage) from the flesh and natural mind, but from love(freedom) which is the glorious liberty of the children of God. Therefore we are bringing the form and fulness of Jesus, the radiance of the father's glory and exact image of His nature" out of the chaos, the futility, the formless void, as the "first fruits of His creation"(James 1).

That is why the whole creation groans with anticipation for the revelation of the children of God(rom 8). We are appointed and are being prepared to be the instruments of God to set the whole creation free, gathering all things into one in Christ in the ages to come.

When we see the sins of others as their bondage to futilty, it becomes easier, as believers, as disciples, to forgive. To pray with Jesus, "Father forgive them they dont know what they are doing"