is masturbation always a sin?
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Between the person and God.
God is always with us in EVERY situation. Learning to experience the presence of God in every situation might be a good topic. :Peace2:
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Quote from: ed on August 27, 2014, 03:06:09 PM
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Between the person and God.
God is always with us in EVERY situation. Learning to experience the presence of God in every situation might be a good topic. :Peace2:
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What is flesh is flesh and what is Spirit is spirit
Understanding what category sin /error enters and what is spiritual in nature and what is carnal in nature is our basic learning experiences
Our flesh desires & spirit desires are at odds , our battlefield is within our own minds and bodies as well as with others it seems sexual and hateful , power over one another & otherwise
Loving your neighbor as yourself can apply to your spiritual man as well as your carnal man,to me , we consider the new man in Christ when you are born again , and that is when the true warring begins that is what I have been learning anyways , you can run away from
everything , but you cannot run from yourself and many are prisoners to sin because of this warring within themselves , mental illness , sexual immorality , murder etc the list is endless .
It takes Jesus and His peace that surpasses all
UNDERSTANDING to know your loved despite your weaknesses . flaws and desires , Only God can change us , we can do nothing of ourselves
Grace comes from God in all forms of life .and it is sufficient .enough; adequate. ample to keep us going till the end of all flesh ..
Gal 5 ;17 New American Standard Bible
For the flesh sets its desire against the Spirit, and the Spirit against the flesh; for these are in opposition to one another, so that you may not do the things that you please.
2 Cothinth 5 13
13For if we are beside ourselves, it is for God; if we are of sound mind, it is for you.
14For the love of Christ controls us, having concluded this, that one died for all, therefore all died; 15
and He died for all, so that they who live might no longer live for themselves, but for Him who died and rose again on their behalf....
Consider the Lord Jesus Christ now in everything we do and we belong to Him , His possession
An obsession with it, means your walking in the flesh, too much.
Quote from: Jason76 on August 27, 2014, 05:08:28 PM
An obsession with it, means your walking in the flesh, too much.
I was always blessed to read that all youth is vanity/ fleeting / nothing
Ecc 11 :10
...9Rejoice, young man, during your childhood, and let your heart be pleasant during the days of young manhood. And follow the impulses of your heart and the desires of your eyes.
Yet know that God will bring you to judgment for all these things.
10So, remove grief and anger from your heart and put away pain from your body,
because childhood and the prime of life are fleeting.
and Paul said when he was a child he done childish things , but now was becoming a man and growing up in Christ Image /example
I do believe when your young you have obsessions with ''feeling good '' about yourself and with yourself :doh: [ vanity ]
10but when the perfect comes, the partial will be done away.
11When I was a child, I used to speak like a child, think like a child, reason like a child;
when I became a man, I did away with childish things.
12For now we see in a mirror dimly, but then face to face; now I know in part,
but then I will know fully just as I also have been fully known
I dont know everything , but have many questions and see many have the same ones also
I try to share things that have helped along the way
Porn, masturbation etc.. are a result of idle time. The more your work, then the less time you have for it. But of course, if your not in the spirit, then you'll make time, even with a busy schedule.
Good question. It is interesting to me that something that is so significant to many men (and I suppose especially in these times women too) is not addressed directly in scripture. God is mute on the subject, so am I.
I think that the heart of the answers above is good and appropriate: what is your heart (spirit) focused on?
Many believe it is a sin because of the circumstances of Onan's death in the book of Genesis. Some argue that God killed Onan because he spilled his seed, others argue he killed Onan because of he was disobedient. As for me, I believe that passage could be interpreted both ways.
Onan was acting wickedly by using the wife that God blessed him with as nothing more than a sex object and blatantly disobeying the law/instruction of Yahweh to produce an heir for his dead brother. Proverbially slapping your wife, dead brother and God in the face.... three strikes in one wicked act, and he was out.
Quote from: lomarah on September 06, 2014, 03:29:03 PM
Onan was acting wickedly by using the wife that God blessed him with as nothing more than a sex object and blatantly disobeying the law/instruction of Yahweh to produce an heir for his dead brother. Proverbially slapping your wife, dead brother and God in the face.... three strikes in one wicked act, and he was out.
right ! thanks everyone ,
:thumbsup: Lormarah very clear statement !!
Quote from: lomarah on September 06, 2014, 03:29:03 PM
Onan was acting wickedly by using the wife that God blessed him with as nothing more than a sex object and blatantly disobeying the law/instruction of Yahweh to produce an heir for his dead brother. Proverbially slapping your wife, dead brother and God in the face.... three strikes in one wicked act, and he was out.
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