Was just wondering. I went to quote post this Luke 9:55 to a friend and could not. It would seem it may not be there to quote. Any thoughts?
Luk 9:55 But he turned, and rebuked them, and said, Ye know not what manner of spirit ye are of. (KJV)
Luk 9:55 But he turned, and rebuked them. (ASV)
Luk 9:55 But he turned, and rebuked them.(RV)
Luk 9:55 But He turned and rebuked them. (WNT)
Luk 9:55 and having turned, he rebuked them, and said, `Ye have not known of what spirit ye are; (YLT)
Luk 9:55 Now, being turned, He rebukes them.(CLT)
Lu.9:55 Turning and he rebuked them, and said: Not you know, of what spirit are you?(Diaglott)
Lu.9:55 But, turning, he rebuked them.(Rotherham)
Lu.9:55 But he turned and reproved them.(Goodspeed)
"not be there" ?
I'm asking. I don't find Luke 9:55 in the list of spurious passages. I have always found the KJV as a good quote, now I don't know. :sigh:
I'm wondering why you think Luke 9:55 is "spurious," bro?
Quote from: Tom on August 09, 2013, 08:54:10 PM
I'm wondering why you think Luke 9:55 is "spurious," bro?
I did not say that that I thought it was spurious, I said, "
I don't find Luke 9:55
in the list of spurious passages." ***** I should have said,
the last part of Luke 9:55.
What I'm curious about is why most translations do not have ".... and said, Ye know not what manner of spirit ye are of."
Maybe some manuscripts have it and some don't. It doesn't conflict with any scripture so IMO it doesn't make a difference.
O well, it just seems strange to me, some have it and some don't, then it is outside of stating to some one it is so, or stating what Jesus said thus...maybe? I was just asking. :sigh:
It must be because the majority of credible manuscripts don't have it. There are other things in the King James, Douay Rheims, and even Young's Literal Translation that are shared that aren't in other versions like the Concordant Version, and I don't believe them. Words were added to (1 John 5:7) in Latin manuscripts in an attempt to verify the Trinity, but that deception has been discredited by earlier Greek manuscripts which do not contain that adulterated verse. Even the Concordant Version has the story of the woman taken in adultery (John 8:3-11) which is not in early Greek manuscripts, but it is in brackets. The Roman church distorted the evangel by changing scripture. The word "church" should be "ecclesia." Twelve times "Gehenna" is translated as "hell." The Greek "aionion" should be "eonian" not "eternal." The "Holy Ghost" should simply be "holy spirit" representing the spirit of God which is simply the power of God not a third person in a mythical pagan based triune godhead. The church tried to hide scripture from the people, and tortured, and killed them with fire just for reading scripture because it didn't want them to know what it said, and it still doesn't want folks to know what scripture really says. We are blessed to be able to read scripture now, but we need to be diligent about making sure we have an accurate translation. There's no perfect translation, but some are definitely better than others. I don't see how somebody can follow church tradition if they believe an accurate translation of scripture. What the church did to scripture was not just error. It was intentional distortion to perpetuate its false doctrine. I don't want to offend anybody here, but the church is truly an evil institution. There are many believers who follow church tradition, but the doctrine the institution is based on is evil. That's why it's so important to get the best translation of scripture you can. I've tried a bunch of them, and right now I think the Concordant Version is the best. It's free online. http://concordant.org/
The CLV is a good reference, I agree. :dsunny:
Good find Mic.
Also check out verse 56. Very different too.
Verse 55
Compare CLV with a Red Letter KJV.
The difference is the Red letter portion of the verse.
Verse 56 is entirely Red Letter.
Seems like the red letter text either is accidentally omitted in some manuscripts or illegally inserted in others.
:dontknow: Yeah it does cause one to pause.