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Discussions Relating to Universal Reconciliation => Lounge => Topic started by: WhiteWings on September 20, 2017, 06:46:36 AM

Title: Looking for a verse on giving
Post by: WhiteWings on September 20, 2017, 06:46:36 AM
It's no secret the Bible is full of verses about giving to the poor. I'm not looking for those verses.

A little while I found a verse or perhaps a set of 2 verses that state something very similar to:
Give to the poor/need but never so much that you/your family gets in trouble/gets hungry because of it.


Much more info I can't give. I know it was in Psalms because I read that on daily basis. Or in the NT.
Likely, not a fact, the verse is not in the first 4 books of the NT

I'm aware that doesn't really narrow down things but that's all I remember.



I'm really looking for a verse or verses. Not for the need, hidden meaning, and whatever about giving.
Title: Re: Looking for a verse on giving
Post by: rosered on September 20, 2017, 01:16:18 PM


  I have looked but cannot find it WW




   The only  one close  is  to be satisfied  with what God gives , not to much or to little   that to much  denies the Lord or to little and steal  giving God a  bad reputation   Proverbs 30

  Not sure  where it is found    :dunno2:
Title: Re: Looking for a verse on giving
Post by: WhiteWings on September 20, 2017, 01:51:13 PM
Hi Rosie,

The verse is not about God.
It's about man-man, neighbor-neighbor or something similar.
Title: Re: Looking for a verse on giving
Post by: rosered on September 20, 2017, 02:15:39 PM
 :thumbsup:

  Ok    Thanks , it is hard to find with so many different  bible versions   out there  now .
Title: Re: Looking for a verse on giving
Post by: sheila on September 20, 2017, 03:14:37 PM
1 Timothy 5;8..dealswith notneglecting family...worse  than those without faith.widows over 60 without believing family members

   are only ones to be supported with food etcby church.......

     Jesus set an example of the poor widow that gave 'all her means ofliving" while others gave out of their excess.........to  display

  the disproportion in giving  that was going on.
Title: Re: Looking for a verse on giving
Post by: sheila on September 20, 2017, 04:18:49 PM
Acts 4;32-37  all the believers were ONE in HEART AND MIND. No one claimed that any of his possessions was his own[friends in

  heaven through  unrighteous mammon..sos..friends in the garden] But they shared everything they had[even true treasures of

  Grace and eternal life laid up in heaven] :2c:
Title: Re: Looking for a verse on giving
Post by: Dandelion on September 21, 2017, 03:07:13 AM
1 Timothy 5:

7Give these instructions to the believers, so that they will be above reproach. 8If anyone does not provide for his own, and especially his own household, he has denied the faith and is worse than an unbeliever.

Is this the one you are looking for?

D.
Title: Re: Looking for a verse on giving
Post by: marie glen on September 21, 2017, 05:02:00 AM
That sounds promising Dandelion! I'll bet that's it!

Before I read it, I was thinking it sounds possibly like a proverb so googled "verse in proverbs about giving"

The only one that sounded near at all was Proverbs 11:24
"One person gives freely, yet gains even more; another withholds unduly, but comes to poverty." :dontknow:

Not the one about giving the children's bread to the (household) dogs.. as that's in the gospels..

Title: Re: Looking for a verse on giving
Post by: WhiteWings on September 21, 2017, 08:10:58 AM
Thanks all, but unfortunately none of the verses are what I'm looking for.

The verse(s) in question are very straightforward. They require zero interpretation. Things like God, salvation, etc are not part of it.

The verse is similar to this:
"Always help the poor but never so much you don't have enough left for yourself/household"
Title: Re: Looking for a verse on giving
Post by: WhiteWings on September 21, 2017, 09:14:42 AM
Indirectly Dandelion's verse states the same, because if someone gives to much to the poor he can no longer provide for his own household.
So it puts the same limit on giving as the verse I'm after.
Title: Re: Looking for a verse on giving
Post by: rosered on September 21, 2017, 12:30:49 PM
  Searched and searched
 

   
All the scriptures  speak of pouring yourself out   to the poor   and afflicted   without anyone knowing  and God will supply  your every need and than some .

and it is fail proof , but I see it can only be out of love  being the true motive of the heart and to  the truly needy ,  or it is for nothing .
 
Some scriptures warns of enabling the wicked  to continue to do  evil is not a good thing also .

God knows our hearts and motives  better than we do , even of ourselves   and others .

Matt6

"Beware of practicing your righteousness before other people in order to be seen by them,

for then you will have no reward from your Father who is in heaven.

"Thus, when you give to the needy, sound no trumpet before you,

as the hypocrites do in the synagogues and in the streets,

that they may be praised by others.

Truly, I say to you, they have received their reward.

But when you give to the needy,

do not let your left hand know what your right hand is doing,

so that your giving may be in secret.

And your Father who sees in secret will reward you.


Keeping silent before'' this world '' seems to be a big blessing too .......  Basically it is to glory and boast in the Lord  entirely ,  where all good things dwell .



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Title: Re: Looking for a verse on giving
Post by: GodIsLove on September 22, 2017, 01:01:32 AM
2 Corinthians 8:13-15 ESV

For I do not mean that others should be eased and you burdened, but that as a matter of fairness your abundance at the present time should supply their need, so that their abundance may supply your need, that there may be fairness. As it is written, "Whoever gathered much had nothing left over, and whoever gathered little had no lack."

???
Title: Re: Looking for a verse on giving
Post by: rosered on September 22, 2017, 12:01:22 PM


  Great verses GIL ,

This says what WW   was asking .     good find ! :thumbsup: