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Jesus is not The Christ?

Started by WhiteWings, March 05, 2009, 08:30:37 PM

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WhiteWings

Last week I've read some quote similar to:
"....then we looked at eachother and suddenly knew Jesus is not The Christ......"
While reading: Matthew 16:16  And Simon Peter answered and said, Thou art the Christ, the Son of the living God.

That verse was his first hint to UR.
All verses with "the Christ" in it have that special meaning.
Any idea what that person tries to say?


I have to add the person that wrote the above is a UR Christian. So he is in no way rejecting the Jesus.

1 Timothy 2:3-4  ...God our Savior;  Who will have all men to be saved...
John 12:47  And if any man hear my words, and believe not, I judge him not: for I came not to judge the world, but to save the world.
Romans 4:5 But to the one who does not work, but believes in the one who declares the ungodly righteous ...

Nathan

Quote from: WhiteWings on March 05, 2009, 08:30:37 PM
Last week I've read some quote similar to:
"....then we looked at eachother and suddenly knew Jesus is not The Christ......"
While reading: Matthew 16:16  And Simon Peter answered and said, Thou art the Christ, the Son of the living God.

That verse was his first hint to UR.
All verses with "the Christ" in it have that special meaning.
Any idea what that person tries to say?


I have to add the person that wrote the above is a UR Christian. So he is in no way rejecting the Jesus.



Nope, not a clue . . other than purposefully demanding the stage of attention . . .there's just no truth to even considering that Jesus is anything "but" the Christ.

legoman

What does "Christ" mean exactly anyway?  Is it a title like "saviour"?


Nathan


Taffy

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Quote from: legoman on March 06, 2009, 08:33:29 PM
What does "Christ" mean exactly anyway?  Is it a title like "saviour"?


Anointed one :icon_flower:, HE DOES THE Works OF HIS Father  :icon_flower:

WhiteWings

Quote from: legoman on March 06, 2009, 08:33:29 PM
What does "Christ" mean exactly anyway?  Is it a title like "saviour"?


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Mashiach's Name Altered?
So, what does the name "JESUS" mean?
The beginning part in Greek, Ιη (IE), is the
sound "Yeh" which is a "hail" . It's not
"Yah", because it was changed! Now,
we're left with the "SUS" part. It may be
significant, so I should tell you that the word
we sometimes see in the Latin,
"YESU" (yeh' zoo) has been traced to a
Hebrew word meaning "a curse be upon".
A good book to check out is the Dictionary
of Christian Lore and Legend by J. C. J.
Metford. One source has this to say:
"It is known that the Greek name endings
of sus, seus, and sous (which are
phonetic pronunciatations for Zeus) were
attached by the Greeks to names and geographical
areas as a means to give honor
to their supreme deity, Zeus. Examples are
Parnassus, a sacred mountain in Greece;
the Greek deity of wine and son of Zeus, Dionysus;
the Greek hero of the Trojan War was Odysseus,
and the Greek deity of healing was Ieusus (which is
a variant spelling of Iesous or the Latin Iesus / Jesus).
They also changed the names of the prophets
EliYahu (whose name means 'my mighty one is
Yah') and Elyesha (whose name means 'my mighty
one saves'), to 'Elias' and 'Eliseus' (which means
'my mighty one is Zeus'). This was done so often
that it later was the basis for their rules of written
grammar which followed the common or vernacular
spoken language."
There are plenty of other Greek words that end
with 'sus'; like the city of Tarsus (meaning 'sweat of
Zeus'), and Pegasus. How can we explain the
Spanish "Hey-Zeus"? Even the name 'Yosef" was
corrupted to 'Joseph', then Guiseppe; but they didn't
tack the name 'Zeus' on it. As a syncretism, the
Greeks had to hear 'Zeus' in the Mashiach's name!
If you stop 50 people walking out of a "Church service"
and ask them what the name of the Creator of
the Universe is, you will usually hear them respond
with GOD, The LORD, or "JESUS". The fact is, the
word "Jesus" has no meaning in Hebrew, and the
closest Hebrew word to the Greek "sus" is soos,
meaning HORSE. The adversary (ha satan) has
stolen much more as you will learn later on in this
book. Let's look at our English word, "GOD". It's
not a name, because the Writings say there are
"many gods". Also, you should know that there is
no difference if the letters are capitalized or not,
because there are no different-sized letters at all in
Hebrew. "Small" letters began with the Greek alefbet
(yes, we even get our word alpha-bet from the
first two Hebrew letters, but use the later Greek
letter names!).
1 Timothy 2:3-4  ...God our Savior;  Who will have all men to be saved...
John 12:47  And if any man hear my words, and believe not, I judge him not: for I came not to judge the world, but to save the world.
Romans 4:5 But to the one who does not work, but believes in the one who declares the ungodly righteous ...

Molly

Jesus is the Messiah of the Old Testament and the Anointed One--both of which are contained in the meaning of Christ.

But, I personally think that we have access to that Christ anointing through him, and in that way become the Christ also--or the body of Christ--or the hologram of Christ, sons of God.

"Christ"
G5547
Χριστός
Christos
khris-tos'
From G5548; anointed, that is, the Messiah, an epithet of Jesus: - Christ.

sparrow

Quote from: Molly on March 06, 2009, 09:20:57 PM
Jesus is the Messiah of the Old Testament and the Anointed One--both of which are contained in the meaning of Christ.

But, I personally think that we have access to that Christ anointing through him, and in that way become the Christ also--or the body of Christ--or the hologram of Christ, sons of God.

"Christ"
G5547
Χριστός
Christos
khris-tos'
From G5548; anointed, that is, the Messiah, an epithet of Jesus: - Christ.


Can you explain what you mean..?

Doc

Quote from: sparrow on March 07, 2009, 02:21:47 AM
Quote from: Molly on March 06, 2009, 09:20:57 PM
Jesus is the Messiah of the Old Testament and the Anointed One--both of which are contained in the meaning of Christ.

But, I personally think that we have access to that Christ anointing through him, and in that way become the Christ also--or the body of Christ--or the hologram of Christ, sons of God.

"Christ"
G5547
Χριστός
Christos
khris-tos'
From G5548; anointed, that is, the Messiah, an epithet of Jesus: - Christ.


Can you explain what you mean..?


Perhaps Molly can explain it better than I can, but we have Christ in us. "Christ in you, the hope of glory".

As (body) members of one another, and Him in whom and by whom and for whom we were created, we are in some sense, Christ as well. In Him we live, move and have our being. There is a part of us (spirit) that is one with Him. So we have the "same" anointing, because it's His anointing in us. Jesus was the "first of many brothers". Christ in us becomes more and more apparent as we allow Him to live his life through us until "our" life becomes completely His life.

Some suggested reading for you:  www.sigler.org 
Read through his online articles in order. Prepare to be challenged and blessed!