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Discussions Relating to Universal Reconciliation => Lounge => Topic started by: WhiteWings on April 24, 2009, 07:44:21 PM

Title: I say God. You say....
Post by: WhiteWings on April 24, 2009, 07:44:21 PM
Nature.


I have very weak faith. Sometimes I get a feeling1 when I see something in nature2 and I think God really exists.

1] Feeling is something like a push, kick or a extra 'loud' heartbeat. Hard to describe. It's something that lasts half a second.
2] Usually a tree, blue sky and especially bright sun in a blue sky. Also birds. (Sparrows :happy3: Cardinals)

I'm certainly no tree or sun worshipper. But those things give me more or equal proof of Gods existance than the Bible itself.

Someone got similar 'feelings'?
Title: Re: I say God. You say....
Post by: Cardinal on April 24, 2009, 09:35:01 PM
 :cloud9: I found out (once I learned to recognize His Spirit/presence) that I had already felt it all along when I was a child. I used to go back into our woods on my horse nearly every day, weather permitting, and just sit there and soak up the peace I felt.

Some people don't believe this, but His Spirit is in the creation. And why wouldn't it be? He formed it thru Christ. What your describing as that "extra heartbeat", I describe as a quickening of His Spirit; a sudden indescribable awareness.

And because He created it, it is a "lesser" glory, lesser only because it has form as the material world. It is His witness; all of creation witnesses some aspect of His nature and principles. Blessings...
Title: Re: I say God. You say....
Post by: sven on April 24, 2009, 10:31:04 PM
It were also philosophical reasons which convinced me, there must be a God

maybe Romans 1:20 fits:

For since the creation of the world God's invisible qualities- his eternal power and divine nature- have been clearly seen, being understood from what has been made, so that men are without excuse.

Title: Re: I say God. You say....
Post by: Molly on April 24, 2009, 10:45:54 PM
Cardinal, yes, same thing here.  As a child I also knew him through the beauty of the world he created for us.  I was also among the most fortunate (so it appears) to be taught how much we are loved by God.  So I could just soak up his love from everything beautiful around me.  Every child should be so blessed.  For that reason, I've always loved this song.



This is my Father's world,
and to my listening ears
all nature sings, and round me rings
the music of the spheres. 
This is my Father's world: 
I rest me in the thought
of rocks and trees, of skies and seas;
his hand the wonders wrought.

2. This is my Father's world,
the birds their carols raise,
the morning light, the lily white,
declare their maker's praise. 
This is my Father's world: 
he shines in all that's fair;
in the rustling grass I hear him pass;
he speaks to me everywhere.

3. This is my Father's world,
O let me ne'er forget:
That thought the wrong seems oft' so strong,
God is the ruler yet.

This is my Father's world,
The battle is not done
Jesus who died shall be satisfied,
And the earth and heaven be one.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NuBC4ocgm0c

Title: Re: I say God. You say....
Post by: sparrow on April 25, 2009, 02:20:27 AM
I almost exclusivey feel God when I'm in nature.

The bible could be torn apart and every page burned to a crisp.

But I would still feel God in His creation.

Title: Re: I say God. You say....
Post by: Taffy on April 25, 2009, 02:31:18 AM
Quote from: sparrow on April 25, 2009, 02:20:27 AM
I almost exclusivey feel God when I'm in nature.

The bible could be torn apart and every page burned to a crisp.

But I would still feel God in His creation.


Hi Little Bird :icon_flower:


Seems theres more than Just ONE way He reaches any of us... :HeartThrob:
xoxoxoo :icon_flower:
Title: Re: I say God. You say....
Post by: aspiring son on April 25, 2009, 07:50:32 PM
Our apartment looks out into woods. We see all the leaves fall, and we see them come back again. We see the wonders of storm clouds( which has always had my fascination) and the sun turning the sky pink at sunset. Ah, yes; there is a loving God.

Quote from: Cardinal on April 24, 2009, 09:35:01 PM
:cloud9: I found out (once I learned to recognize His Spirit/presence)

Some people don't believe this, but His Spirit is in the creation. And why wouldn't it be? He formed it thru Christ. What your describing as that "extra heartbeat", I describe as a quickening of His Spirit; a sudden indescribable awareness.

And because He created it, it is a "lesser" glory, lesser only because it has form as the material world. It is His witness; all of creation witnesses some aspect of His nature and principles. Blessings...

Amen   Grace and Peace  :nod:
Title: Re: I say God. You say....
Post by: WhiteWings on April 25, 2009, 07:59:50 PM
Never thought 'everyone' would feel the same as me.....
Title: Re: I say God. You say....
Post by: sparrow on April 25, 2009, 08:11:41 PM
WhiteWings...

His creation IS my bible.

I love to think of nature as an unlimited broadcasting station, through which God speaks to us every hour, if we will only tune in.   - George Washington Carver


Parables abound in nature.

You can take my bible.
But don't take away my little patch of grass, and the sun shining on my face.
No-where do I feel closer to God.

:icon_flower:

Title: Re: I say God. You say....
Post by: Cardinal on April 25, 2009, 08:36:40 PM
 :cloud9: Like that post sparrow.......the George Washington Carver quote was amazing.....and so true. :thumbsup: Blessings....
Title: Re: I say God. You say....
Post by: WhiteWings on April 25, 2009, 09:12:42 PM
Quote from: sparrow on April 25, 2009, 08:11:41 PM
WhiteWings...

His creation IS my bible.

I that case I've always been a Bible reader.
Title: Re: I say God. You say....
Post by: sparrow on April 25, 2009, 10:35:22 PM
Quote from: WhiteWings on April 25, 2009, 09:12:42 PM
Quote from: sparrow on April 25, 2009, 08:11:41 PM
WhiteWings...

His creation IS my bible.

I that case I've always been a Bible reader.

:high5:
Title: Re: I say God. You say....
Post by: fire walker on April 27, 2009, 10:02:56 PM
Quote from: sparrow on April 25, 2009, 08:11:41 PM
WhiteWings...

His creation IS my bible.

I love to think of nature as an unlimited broadcasting station, through which God speaks to us every hour, if we will only tune in.   - George Washington Carver


Parables abound in nature.

You can take my bible.
But don't take away my little patch of grass, and the sun shining on my face.
No-where do I feel closer to God.

:icon_flower:


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I agree Sparrow, when we were children we saw things and felt the presence of God in things out in nature, one of my Grandmothers favorite quotes to people about children was: all children  need their Indian acre to run on, without it they starve for the wounderful things of God.

As we get older the vail tends to obstruct this view and we are it seems blinded, some of us maybe to greater extents than others by the pushes, pulls and the concerns of this world, the do's and do nots to the letter preached by religion, politics, corporate pressure and such that is bulit up by the hands of men, I believe this is all designed by God to draw us closer to him and equip us with a body, the mansion he is preparing for us fit for glory.

Peace,
Fire Walker

Title: Re: I say God. You say....
Post by: Nathan on April 27, 2009, 11:03:08 PM
May want to be careful how we prioritize some things . . .I believe the Word is given to afirm what the spirit is doing . .but I also believe the Word (Bible) isn't the blame for misunderstandings.  I think that should go to the source . .the minds of men who try to take a spiritual truth and apply it with natural logic.  In other words . . .reading it as a means of proof, rather than an inspiriation of faith.

It's a tool, an assistance that leads us into Truth, but it's not truth in and of itself.  It takes the Spirit to unveil the truth within it.  Otherwise, it's just a historical book with moral values.
Title: Re: I say God. You say....
Post by: Doc on April 28, 2009, 12:25:22 AM
I don't think it should be any surprise that Jesus went into the wilderness to spend quality time with Father.... :thumbsup: