descendants of the Nephilim

[lookingforhope]

Are there still descendants of the Nephilim on Earth today and do you think they are they out of reach of salvation through Jesus?

I had a dream last night where I walked through a couple of rooms where there were hundreds of white cloaks , and then into a third room where there were blue cloaks and I just heard the word nephilim.   I never have dreams like this. 

I've never changed to be more like Christ since I found Him 12 years ago. In fact I would say I'm a worse person now, with so many issues, especially anger.  I despair of myself most of the time.  I've always felt different to other Christians in that they hear from him, experience him and have evidence of Him working in their lives. I have none of this as I just bear bad fruit.  So maybe I am different. I can no longer summon up enough faith to say I am His.

[WhiteWings]

I think we can't really know with certainty if there are any Nephlim descendants. For all I know they look quite human.


I have no clue what your dream means, but imo blue means divine royalty and white is about purity. Not really colors I would link to Nephlim.

[lookingforhope]

Thank for replying White wings. 

So if I'm unfortunate enough to be a descendent there's no hope?  I'm sorry to sound so dramatic but it was like the white robes were meant for the redeemed and then I was taken into this other room meant for the nephilim. That's where it ended.  It was so vivid and has left me feeling scared.   

I'm in a pretty dark place right now anyway and am trying to trust in God but then I get thrown this curveball .

[WhiteWings]

What Nephim actually are can be debated, but I think they are demonic spirits living in human (like) bodies. I think if you would be a Nephlim you would know that with 100% certainty and God wouldn't be bothered to give you a dream.

Anyway, when you entered the room with the blue robes you heard the word Nephlim?
If I'm right and blue means heavenly royalty I would say being in the room with blue robes is positive. But as said I have no clue what your dream means or why the word Nephlim was spoken....

[micah7:9]

"I've never changed to be more like Christ since I found Him 12 years ago. In fact I would say I'm a worse person now, with so many issues, especially anger.  I despair of myself most of the time.  I've always felt different to other Christians in that they hear from him, experience him and have evidence of Him working in their lives. I have none of this as I just bear bad fruit.  So maybe I am different. I can no longer summon up enough faith to say I am His. " (lookingforhope)

I have and still can relate to "your" despair and I have done my earthly best as a soul in the process of being saved for 37 yrs. About 5-6 years ago I read Psa 139:7  Whither do I go from Thy Spirit? And whither from Thy face do I flee?
Psa 139:8  If I ascend the heavens--there Thou art , And spread out a couch in Sheol, lo, Thee!
And I was made to realize that truth. HE is there...ALL the time. I cannot begin to discern your dream, but I was praying several years ago, praying all that your post offers and even perhaps more, when I paused-waited, to add more of my failures and weaknesses, and in that silence I heard, yes I heard just two words....I KNOW. That bit of knowledge, that small offering, has given me a great deal of peace. I am what I am, [and He Knows] I cannot be anything else... UNTIL He continues His work in me and holding to the hope and faith given to me, through His Grace, He will complete His work in me as with you and ALL.  :dsunny: Jesus is Risin!
PS I do know that you are not a nephilim.

[sheila]

 Dear Brother,  the seed of doubt of your salvation and that God loves you....feeds the spirit of anger....

and when the anger brings forth in you it's fruit...then great saddness,despair and sorrow comes upn you.

...though sorrow can lead to godly repentance..it is not spiritually healthy for you to be in constant sorrow

and feeling dejected.  It can turn into a vicious cycle of torment to one of His children.

    may your Faith in HIm be strengthened..so these 'fiery darts' can be repelled.  Solid unwavering

  Faith in His son and the salvation and great love the Father has for all men..will be like armour

for you against the adversary.   We are all in this same battle....my brother..and struggle with

the same things.

   doubt is a seed of the serpent.......look! in the garden the first feiry dart of the serpents tougne was

to spill forth doubt of the Father's word[did God really say..you are saved..surely not] to man


   In your dream.....the serpents seed[netheleum] are those who name God but say that only a. few

shall be saved..or that God and Jesus will not save all men.    He has shown you those who make you

doubt and cast you to the earth dejected.  He has revealed to you the trap of the enemy..so you

may escape.  the  rooms are different sites/different spiritual places..that you have visited........

  the Nethileoum seed/serpents seed...makes you 'blue' my brother. Avoid visiting at these 'rooms'

...the serpent opened his mouth and cast out waters[dragon floods of cndemnation] to try and

wash the woman away.  this is what the adversary has been attempting to do with you.

  But the Lord God of Heaven has spoken to you in a dream and revealed the enemies  devices

to you...to deliver you from the snare...because He loves you.  Take heart..know He loves you!

   May you find rest in Him along with us.  Stay here with us..be fed and strengthened..this is a place

of spiritual succour.

[lookingforhope]

Thank you so much for your loving words...I really do appreciate it.   Sorry about the gender non- specific username Sheila...I am actually female, but I didn't mind being called your Brother at all. 

You can probably tell I'm in a pretty dark place at the moment.  You see,  I haven't abided in Him...I stopped going to church, reading the Word, praying...you'd never have guessed I had even heard of Jesus.  All this after coming out of a dreadful period over 7 years ago, when I promised that if I came out the other side that He would be at the centre of my life. (It was during this period that I came to the truth about UR on this site) I meant it with all my heart but it never happened.    I've turned away from him twice now. I feel like the branch that has been cut off the vine.  Its a scary place to be   :sigh:

[WhiteWings]

I don't know if God is giving you a hard time but remember this:


Psalm 30:5 For his anger lasts only a moment, but his favor lasts a lifetime; weeping may stay for the night, but rejoicing comes in the morning.

[ed]

I've been where you are.  God is always there.  When I was young I started to understand that God was with me all the time.  I made a conscious choice to bring God with me even when was was hitting the bars.

Ephesians 2:17 That Christ may dwell in your hearts by faith; that ye, being rooted and grounded in love,
May be able to comprehend with all saints what is the breadth, and length, and depth, and height;
And to know the love of Christ, which passeth knowledge, that ye might be filled with all the fulness of God.

You know I walked away from Christ and told the world.  Figured I'd never be back....................LOL
I'd copy and paste LOL a thousand times because it is not me that has a hold of Him, it is Him that has a hold of me.

Hang in there.  God is with you.

.

[sheila]

Sister... :girlheart:     since you describe yourself as a dry branch[not that I think it] then we are instructed

  to snatch you from the fire,girl!!   Listen...if our salvation depended on what we do or do not do......

    all is lost[all men condemned under the law]

     I heard about the salvation of all in 1973...and rejected it........for 30 yrs............sort of puts

your 7 years in a different perspective,doesn't it?

   all I know is that He has shown great pateince and enduring love to me..all this time[even when I

felt I must be cut off from Him,too]  and He is no respector of persons...........

    Iv'e been in that place where I am unable to do a single thing...where I 'muck it up" on everything

  I attempt.  He put me there,I found..to make me see that it was not dependant on my flesh..and

also that it is the will and desire of God..that no flesh boast[that includes,especially the saints]

    still..somedays I have bad day's and feel worthless...on such days I tell myself..if I can do one

thing today..one act of honouring Him and expressing my love and appreciation of Him..in some

way,no matter how small..or insignificant....then I am not so worthless and this day was not a total loss!

  whether showing love,mercy or pateince to some-one..being hospitable,encouraging....being extra-

kind to my pets, fixing something special as a treat for my grand-daughter. It's the little things....

  He called the common everyday run of the mill men and women....He knows we are broken...it is

  Him that will restore.

    HIS LOVE ENDURES FOREVER

   when I was young.....I had a notion that I was going to do some great thing for God!  Lol!

   foolishness of youth and the carnal flesh!!!   Now, I know it will be some 'little' thing..if at all......

  and you know...I'm content with that......for He never had any great expectations of me,anyway! lol!

   He knows what dwells in the flesh!  and I have found this in Him,instead....that He has exceeded

far and above..any expectation I ever had of Him!.  I never imagined..His true thoughts and heart"

[rrich7]

Thank you so much for your loving words...I really do appreciate it.   Sorry about the gender non- specific username Sheila...I am actually female, but I didn't mind being called your Brother at all. 

You can probably tell I'm in a pretty dark place at the moment.  You see,  I haven't abided in Him...I stopped going to church, reading the Word, praying...you'd never have guessed I had even heard of Jesus.  All this after coming out of a dreadful period over 7 years ago, when I promised that if I came out the other side that He would be at the centre of my life. (It was during this period that I came to the truth about UR on this site) I meant it with all my heart but it never happened.    I've turned away from him twice now. I feel like the branch that has been cut off the vine.  Its a scary place to be   :sigh:

Ah but sister the branch can be grafted back in! God never gives up on us. The way I see it we are forever learning & growing in this life. We all beat ourselves up a bit when we fail, but imo (in my opinion) if you're feeling a little upset or guilty that's a sign that you love God & you want to please Him!

I actually was talking about how we sometimes beat ourselves or other up about our sins (or theirs), but sin is a part of the human nature & this flesh we are in. The spirit wants to please God, but the flesh rejects God, it cannot please Him. Even the most devout Christians stumble, but God says He can & WILL graft you back in.

Walk in love, trust God & He will make the changes in you! You wont become absolutely perfect in this life, but God has that waiting for all of us in His good time :HeartThrob:

& Despite it all God loves you anyway, more than you can even imagine!!

[micah7:9]

Job 14:5  Seeing his days are determined, the number of his months are with thee, thou hast appointed his bounds that he cannot pass;
Job 14:6  Turn from him, that he may rest, till he shall accomplish, as an hireling, his day.
Job 14:7  For there is hope of a tree, if it be cut down, that it will sprout again, and that the tender branch thereof will not cease.
Job 14:8  Though the root thereof wax old in the earth, and the stock thereof die in the ground;
Job 14:9  Yet through the scent of water it will bud, and bring forth boughs like a plant.
Job 14:10  But man dieth, and wasteth away: yea, man giveth up the ghost, and where is he?
Job 14:11  As the waters fail from the sea, and the flood decayeth and drieth up:
Job 14:12  So man lieth down, and riseth not: till the heavens be no more, they shall not awake, nor be raised out of their sleep.
Job 14:13  O that thou wouldest hide me in the grave, that thou wouldest keep me secret, until thy wrath be past, that thou wouldest appoint me a set time, and remember me!
Job 14:14  If a man die, shall he live again? all the days of my appointed time will I wait, till my change come.
Job 14:15  Thou shalt call, and I will answer thee: thou wilt have a desire to the work of thine hands. :dsunny: Glory

[lookingforhope]

You've all written such heartfelt messages...thank you.

I really do think I never had the baptism of the holy spirit...there is nothing to suggest I did.  So I'm still in the outer court (relating to the tabernacle) unable to get any further. Is this because I wasn't willing to offer myself as a sacrifice?   Quite possibly..I saw my faith as part of me rather than all of me.  I didn't love God enough I suppose.   Or maybe I didn't have enough faith to truly trust in Him and actually believe I am saved.  But faith is a gift from Him, so that makes me feel rejected. 

I'm sorry to be dwelling on the milk...but then the rest of this forum has more than enough meat for you all to be chewing on!

I must get up and try to face the day. It really is an hour at a time at the moment.  To make the picture a bit clearer, I am physically unwell at the moment although no diagnosis given yet...having tests...hence the very dark place when Im thinking that I'm not his.  The nephilim dream (vision? I was sort of half awake) really knocked me for six...

Thank you all  for listening  :girlheart:

[rosered]

  Dear   L.F Hope !
  So sorry  for what you are going though , its  sure a  thing of faith and endurance 

 
Yesterday was  a bit busy for me so I never got to post  , but 
I wanted  to know , did you do any looking  on the word Nephilliam ?
Since you heard only that word ?

I have dreams on occasion , that are  strange  as well ,
  I hope you do not    get scared  because  of them .

And as you can tell we have some wonderful  , friends like family here   to discuss them

Please dont  give up or go back into  quiet  ,I am  for one glad your here  sis as well as others !

   the renown   means  shem or name name Strong's H8034 - shem


name

reputation, fame, glory

the Name (as designation of God)

memorial, monument



niplilliam

Its like many man made terms  [rapture, trinity  etc, nephilliam]  these are  words made to describe   what  many are just  hoping to  explain  what they mean .

  This Wordfrom the Bible   comes from the Hebrew  word Strong's H5303 - nĕphiyl
and    and meanings  vary  , when reading lexicons and explainations commentaries and  dictonaries  etc .

      the   term giant ,  men large in stature is a source   but also well known  , like tribes of  peoples  in various groups  and such

Gen 6:4 There were giants in the earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare children to them, the same became mighty men which were of old, men of renown.
Num 13:33 And there we saw the giants, the sons of Anak, which come of the giants: and we were in our own sight as grasshoppers, and so we were in their sight.
Deu 2:11 Which also were accounted giants, as the Anakims; but the Moabites call them Emims.
Deu 2:20 (That also was accounted a land of giants: giants dwelt therein in old time; and the Ammonites call them Zamzummims;
Deu 3:11 For only Og king of Bashan remained of the remnant of giants; behold, his bedstead was a bedstead of iron; is it not in Rabbath of the children of Ammon? nine cubits was the length thereof, and four cubits the breadth of it, after the cubit of a man.
Deu 3:13 And the rest of Gilead, and all Bashan, being the kingdom of Og, gave I unto the half tribe of Manasseh; all the region of Argob, with all Bashan, which was called the land of giants.
Jos 12:4 And the coast of Og king of Bashan, which was of the remnant of the giants, that dwelt at Ashtaroth and at Edrei,
Jos 13:12 All the kingdom of Og in Bashan, which reigned in Ashtaroth and in Edrei, who remained of the remnant of the giants: for these did Moses smite, and cast them out.
Jos 15:8 And the border went up by the valley of the son of Hinnom unto the south side of the Jebusite; the same is Jerusalem: and the border went up to the top of the mountain that lieth before the valley of Hinnom westward, which is at the end of the valley of the giants northward:
Jos 17:15 And Joshua answered them, If thou be a great people, then get thee up to the wood country, and cut down for thyself there in the land of the Perizzites and of the giants, if mount Ephraim be too narrow for thee

Are there still descendants of the Nephilim on Earth today and do you think they are they out of reach of salvation through Jesus?

your main question    that was hoping to be answered  is yes, to me I believe whole heartly   that  JESUS will  accomplish  absolving all things into HIMSELF    for all things were made by and though HIM [WORD OF GOD ] and cannot fail 


there always hope , hopeful !!
God bless you and yours 

[dajomaco]

It seems some times in Christianity there are two doors

1) Door one you receive the blessings of God for pleasing him.
2) Door two you receive the blessings of God because he has mercy on you.

Door one is a trap door.

[micah7:9]

Amen and Amen!

[Lazarus Short]

A few thoughts:

The Nephilim were hugely tall, with six fingers & toes, and double rows of teeth.  All the skeletons are very ancient, so they appear to be extinct.  Many here on this site maintain that ALL of God's creation will be redeemed and restored, and that must include the Nephilim, as God cannot become All in all, unless everyone (all) bend the knee and confess Jesus as their God and their Lord.

One of our problems as human beings is our limited perspective.  We don't see the end from the beginning, as God does.  This can lead to despair in bad circumstances.  This has NOTHING to do with our salvation, for Jesus takes, and has taken, care of that.  Look to God, look to Jesus, and not to your own circumstances.  Your present situation is not your destiny. 

The meaning of your vision may take a long time to clarify.  I have had dreams and visions which took years to understand fully, and if I had done so quickly, my life might have taken a different course.  Yet I know that my steps, day by day, are established by the Lord, and I just have to believe that He delights in my way.  Your path is different, but the Goal is the same - a happy forever in His kingdom.  :cloud9:

[WhiteWings]

A few thoughts:

The Nephilim were hugely tall, with six fingers & toes, and double rows of teeth.  All the skeletons are very ancient, so they appear to be extinct

The skeletons seem to decrease in size assuming they are Nephlim skeletons. 6 finger still exists btw http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polydactyly




. 

Many here on this site maintain that ALL of God's creation will be redeemed and restored, and that must include the Nephilim, as God cannot become All in all, unless everyone (all) bend the knee and confess Jesus as their God and their Lord.

Then the question is this: Are Nephlim God's creation? There are 3 ways to spell life in Hebrew.

[Lazarus Short]

A few thoughts:

The Nephilim were hugely tall, with six fingers & toes, and double rows of teeth.  All the skeletons are very ancient, so they appear to be extinct

The skeletons seem to decrease in size assuming they are Nephlim skeletons. 6 finger still exists btw http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polydactyly




. 

Many here on this site maintain that ALL of God's creation will be redeemed and restored, and that must include the Nephilim, as God cannot become All in all, unless everyone (all) bend the knee and confess Jesus as their God and their Lord.

Then the question is this: Are Nephlim God's creation? There are 3 ways to spell life in Hebrew.

Thanks for the correction - these things do turn up from time to time.  As to God's creation, I tend to think that God takes responsibility for everything in the universe He created.  At the same time, I know that not all livings things are considered "life" in a certain sense.  There is a bias toward air-breathers having breath.

[WhiteWings]

It was not a correction Laz.
Just pointing out it exists, meaning it could be Nephlim or just birth defects.
Not everyone that isn't exactly according to 'standard' is demonic...
We must take care not to label people (to quickly). Not so long ago having a big nose was enough to be labeled half animal...

[WhiteWings]

 
 

Spelling	Pictographic symbols spell	Meaning
Chet-yod-yod	A fence of protection around the work of God's hands.	Man. Created by God's hands.
Chet-yod	A fence of protection around God's work	All life including humans. Animals are spoken into existence.
Chet	A fence of protection	Nephilim. Not God's creation.

[sheila]

 men of renown.....greek mythological gods..etc..apollo..zeus..etc...said offspring of men and

   'the gods'.   In effect these fallen angels[spirits] took whomever they pleased to bring forth

  a spirit/human mix...human flesh manipulated and with supernatural'powers' that really originated

from the evil spirit[rebellious angel]

  now,examine it as an evil contrast..to the good and Holy in Christ.......the virgin conceived of

  the Holy spirit...the word of God come in flesh..instead of the word of a slanderer evil demon come

in flesh.............born of a woman under law.....   Jesus was fully human in flesh..but the power of His

Father was with him.  same thing with  these 'giants"...the power of the evil spirit was with them...

  but it was a strength of the flesh[thus the giant part of the equation]...see how it works..against

  the will of God..that says..by my spirit?...and no flesh shall boast?

   all men[ that dwelt in flesh] are saved of Jesus Christ...delivered from the evil one..for this

reason the word of God come in flesh and took the appearance of sin..as a ransom for all......

and He sahll appear again and seperate the people from their sin.

   is man's flesh corrupted by demons/evil fallen angels..yep...is man saved  from this body of death

by the gift of eternal life through the son of God? yep.

  all en are saved...and just as satan says 'is it really true that God and Jesus have given all men the

free gift of eternal life "? and surely not,for God knows some men are mine...let me remind you

that all of us were bound up in sinand at enmity with God...and the serpents seed remains at enmity

with the woman's seed..but through one man,Jesus Christ forgiveness of sins for all men.

  this is not good..to be casting doubt on the salvation of all men...................all men shall be

delivered from this body undergoing this death.  All in Adam shall be raised up in Christ.....

     have not the demonically possessed super-human strength? will not the strong-man first be

bound so that 'his' house can be pillaged? [demons think man's body[house] is theirs for the taking..

but God created man for His spirit to dwell in.}  Does not the God of heaven deliver us from the

enemy that is stronger then we are[weak flesh]?  are not all men to be clothed in Christ? the glory

of an incorruptible celestial body? 


      anything less then the salvation of all men[Adam..even though corruption/death entered] is not

good and is the venom of the viper's............  my  :2c:

[sheila]

  and Rose..men of renown[name] as children of the gods..apollos etc...yes......

  but God also deemed to make a 'name for himself"  and 'Shem[Genesis 10;1]  and took out a

people fore His name...Hebrews  Shem ancestor of all the people of Eber.[hebrew]

  and so we have 'name' in both a good/evil contrast....rebellious sons of God and people taaaaken out

for God's name.

[Jock]

Hi Searcher

I'm aware of your plight but be sure, in fact, certain that the Father is in control. You are in His hand. The things He tells us and/or speaks through our brethren, are Gospel. An angel gives you those things and they have power to bring you up above the tension and darkness. I wouldn't worry about the nephilim, just hold onto the things, by faith, that the Lord gives you. I can't stress this enough!

Your salvation is a done deal period. This time will pass, you will know joy and peace again, but the Lord chastises us so that we may be disciplined. These things all happen in the spirituals.

Many good replies here, hold on to the things that are helpful, write them down and carry them in your pocket, then when your adversary approaches, pull out that "Sword of the Spirit" and read it out to that messenger of God. Yes, I say messenger of God, even Satan is a messenger of God.

BTW, There is no pass or fail in this. God will have His way, be encouraged in that.

I'll be praying for you.
Praise God and His wondrous ways  :dsunny:

[micah7:9]

From the original post..."Are there still descendants of the Nephilim on Earth today......" just why or how would a person even come up with such a thought, unless christian religions and denominations keep such thoughts moldable in the mind of those seeking refuge and peace? Should the truth be offered, preached, and ministered, souls with great pain in their consciousness of past deeds, would never have a need to even be able to come up with such thoughts. When the Father draws one to His Son Jesus, that one knows, that a work has begun...and a dark thought of such a thing as "Nephilim" would never arise in thought. I am just amazed........certainly and by all cause, this is just my opinion. :banana: