Conspiracy?

[Beloved Servant]

Hi Taffy,
I, too, will share my experience with you.
I was an editor at a newspaper for a number of years.
When the word conspiracy hits the desk, everyone sits up.
Conspiracy theory gets a yawn.

[Taffy]

Hi Taffy,
I, too, will share my experience with you.
I was an editor at a newspaper for a number of years.
When the word conspiracy hits the desk, everyone sits up.
Conspiracy theory gets a yawn.

ty BS
:icon_flower:
thanks for sharing. :icon_flower:

Blessings Taffy

[Molly]

Hi Taffy,
I, too, will share my experience with you.
I was an editor at a newspaper for a number of years.
When the word conspiracy hits the desk, everyone sits up.
Conspiracy theory gets a yawn.

Surprising, that, since you have not yet commented on one fact on the preceding page.

Facts make you yawn, too?

[Beloved Servant]

What's surprising Molly?
That I was an editor?

[Molly]

What's surprising Molly?
That I was an editor?

Yes, it's surprising.

The first link on this thread alone references hundreds of pages of evidence to back up the journalist's claims.

[Beloved Servant]

Oh dear! Molly!
The internet is as reliable as a paid informant.
Research takes many people, many hours, many phone calls, many interviews and in this case, many lawyers.
The conspiracy indicated here, could involve charges of treason and crimes against humanity.
The implication here is enormous.

[Taffy]

well BS

Nothing can fault actual proof...and as we say " the proof is in the pudding"...so..Time may well be whats needed...a Billion folk die in the course of it, we may then have a relative degree of suspicion...lol


thats of course your around to testify to it..ROFL

just bustin on yer pal..im not looking to debate
:icon_flower:Blessings
T

[Beloved Servant]

I also despise debate.
But, there simply is no story here.
It's whoremongering, just trading in cheap information for profit.
It's a familiar spirit.

Reminds me of the story that George Bush ordered the destruction of the World Trade Center.

[Tim B]

Welcome back Taffy!

I'm not sure about the "swine flu" conspiracy, but I wouldn't put it past somebody/some people creating it.

[Molly]

I also despise debate.
But, there simply is no story here.
It's whoremongering, just trading in cheap information for profit.
It's a familiar spirit.

Reminds me of the story that George Bush ordered the destruction of the World Trade Center.

Yes, well, I ask a lot of questions.  Asking questions is not whoremongering, and you will only ever get the answers to questions you ask.

So I ask a question like where did all that steel and concrete go?  How did 110 stories of steel and concrete turn to dust, leaving behind a debris pile of around one story high? 

This is only one of a thousand questions you could ask if you were so inclined.

But, this one is curious in that it is dealing with the very forces that hold matter together.

Even a small magnetic field can be used to flip protons.  What if the field was large enough and focused enough?

Would you have a new weapon?  Certainly not the sort of thing that men in caves are inclined to have in their arsenal.   Boxcutters!  Ha!  Do they think we are fools?


Like X ray, MRI is based on a discovery in the physic lab: when the nuclei of hydrogen atoms--single protons, all spinning randomly--are caught suddenly in a strong magnetic field, they tend to line up like so many compass needles.  If the protons are then hit with a short, precisely tuned burst of radio waves, they will momentarily flip around.  Then, in the process of returning to their original orientation, they resound with a brief radio signal of their own.  The intensity of this emission reflects the number of protons in a particular "slice" of matter.

http://people.ee.duke.edu/~jshorey/MRIHomepage/work.html



Cell phones in the city didn't work that day.

[WhiteWings]

The internet is as reliable as a paid informant.

Is big farma peddling it's products part of that 'paid informant'?

[WhiteWings]

I love the truth be told.
But the thread is conspiracy.
I understood it as as evil act to deliberately kill people for profit.
Thus I asked: is this true?

What are most wars about? Helping of citizens?
For example do you think the Iraq war really was/is to give Iraqi citizens a better life?

[WhiteWings]

these types of stories spread fear and panic.
A prime reason I avoid anything out of Hollywood.

I don't live in the USA but we have our own Hollywood.
News about the flu several times a day. Nothing substantial.  When looking at the stats this flu is very very mild. I call that causing panic. I'm not saying the media are trying to cause panic but they just report because otherwise the other news network gets the scoop.
Just journalists parroting what they found on the telex. Did they really check their sources? And if they did what source had their source. I wouldn't be suprised at all that mist indepentend sources are coming from the same source.

Read older articles and the outbreak should already be out of control. So months of panic for nothing.
So you have to ask yourself:
- Who caused panic first? -> Big Farma
- Who helped blown it out of proportion? -> Media. Just because they rarely check sources and want to sell ads.
- What was first the conspiracy of the large scale media coverage?

[WhiteWings]

Or maybe you could explain to me why anyone in their right (that is, not insane) mind would recreate the recombinant DNA of a deadly flu from 90 year old corpses!

Perhaps just for study. If there is a conspiracy it isn't necessarily the above mentioned scientists.
Remember Nobel didn't work for the military either...

http://justgetthere.us/blog/archives/Hyped-Flu-Will-Make-Use-of-Expiring-Tamiflu-Stockpiles-and-Allow-For-Pre-Pandemic-Priming-of-The-Population.html

[Molly]

Or maybe you could explain to me why anyone in their right (that is, not insane) mind would recreate the recombinant DNA of a deadly flu from 90 year old corpses!

Perhaps just for study. If there is a conspiracy it isn't necessarily the above mentioned scientists.
Remember Nobel didn't work for the military either...

http://justgetthere.us/blog/archives/Hyped-Flu-Will-Make-Use-of-Expiring-Tamiflu-Stockpiles-and-Allow-For-Pre-Pandemic-Priming-of-The-Population.html

Just for study?!???

Sorry that doesn't pass the smell test.

Let's see how many deadly human viruses we can create in our lab--just out of curiousity.  And, then, let's ship it all over the world. And then--oops--some of it goes missing--oops--a vial of it explodes on a crowded train--oops, oops, oops--

These people are criminals in my book--and that includes the scientists that do their bidding.

I'd like to see them all in jail--for life.


More than a week after the public announcement of this novel H1N1 strain, the WHO has yet to determine the origin of the virus. The complex reassortment of the novel virus, coupled with the location and time of year of the outbreak, has lead to numerous speculations that the novel virus was the result of a lab creation that either escaped, or was released intentionally to achieve numerous globalist agendas. Surprisingly in 2004, the CDC conducted multiple experiments in an attempt to create a new hybrid virus in a lab. The reason given to perform such dangerous experiments, was the threat of nature creating a hybrid virus with the killing rate of the avian flu, and transmissibility of human flu viruses. Using two methods, first they infected cells in laboratory tissue cultures, with H5N1 avian flu and H3N2 human virus, to see if they would mix. Secondly, they used reverse genetics to assemble a new virus that contained H5N1 and H3N2. Any viable viruses that emerged from these combinations, would in turn be seeded into ferrets, according to David Daigle, CDC spokesman.

[WhiteWings]

Sorry that doesn't pass the smell test.

Another smell test for you...
The virus does spread very slowly. Much slower than a seasonal flu. But, they say, this virus can mutate very quickly and turn into something really dangerous very quickly. That would mean the the almost declared holy Tamiflu isn't guaranteed to work.
I'm not concered about the flu. But I'm about the costs. Fact or fiction it generates some $ for big farma.

[Molly]

Sorry that doesn't pass the smell test.

Another smell test for you...
The virus does spread very slowly. Much slower than a seasonal flu. But, they say, this virus can mutate very quickly and turn into something really dangerous very quickly. That would mean the the almost declared holy Tamiflu isn't guaranteed to work.
I'm not concered about the flu. But I'm about the costs. Fact or fiction it generates some $ for big farma.

Who cares if it works or not?  Not them, they've already sold it and made their profit.  And, if it doesn't work they can sell another 'cure' and make more profit.

Profit is the name of the game,isn't it?  And death..

Oh and big pharma has such a good historical reputation--

In his book Aspirin: The Story of a Wonder Drug, by Diarmuid Jeffreys, Mr. Jeffreys states that:

― Bayer AG sponsored the experiments of Nazi Dr. Josef Mengele. In 1956 Fritz ter Meer became chairman of Bayer after having been sentenced at the Nuremberg trials to seven years' imprisonment for his part in carrying out experiments on human subjects at Auschwitz.
http://wapedia.mobi/en/Bayer?t=4.#4.




Study the AIDS virus some day.   That one's a lot of fun.

[WhiteWings]

In his book Aspirin: The Story of a Wonder Drug, by Diarmuid Jeffreys, Mr. Jeffreys states that:

― Bayer AG sponsored the experiments of Nazi Dr. Josef Mengele.

I.G. Farben was just one of the industrial sponsors of Hitler.

Study the AIDS virus some day.   That one's a lot of fun.

I did years ago. Didn't make me smile...

[Molly]

 

did years ago. Didn't make me smile...

Why can't we stop these people?  They just keep doing the same thing over and over again.

Why is everyone else so ignorant of the truth?


Proverbs 8:36
But he that sinneth against me wrongeth his own soul: all they that hate me love death.

[WhiteWings]

Why can't we stop these people?  They just keep doing the same thing over and over again.

Maibly because most people are followers. Just sheep. Including the media that just copy news from the telex without verifying it.
And those who do.... they are wacko conspiracy morons.
Afterall the past of governments and the Fat Cats is without blemish.

[Raggedy Anne]

I also despise debate.
But, there simply is no story here.
It's whoremongering, just trading in cheap information for profit.
It's a familiar spirit.

Reminds me of the story that George Bush ordered the destruction of the World Trade Center.

You mean to tell me that George W.Bush did not know in advance that the twin towers were coming down?
The history of America is woven throughout with bizarre crimes.   
This is the latest book looking into such things:
http://www.legacyofsecrecy.com/

[sparrow]

This present world is fallen.
That pretty much says it all, doesn't it?
It's not a little fallen...
It is UTTERLY fallen.

This world is passing away...
This is not our real home.
Even those who do evil at the highest levels...
This is NOT their true home.
And they are NOT who they are to become.

Hallelujah....

Do not fear.

What is seen is TEMPORARY...
What is unseen.... eternal.

What can we do?

We can do what God wants us to do...

LOVE!
LOVE!
LOVE!

Don't waste too much time talking about evil...

Go on now...

Go out there and LOVE.

No-one needs to be convinced of EVIL!

People need to be CONVINCED of LOVE!!

Hope ya'll understand what I mean...

I have gone down the lonely road of fear.
It will suck the very life out of you.
"oh but we must be aware.... we must shine a light on evil!!"
NO! We must shine the light on LOVE!


peace...

sparrow

[Raggedy Anne]

Amen, Sparrow.  It is a waste of time to fret over that which is fallen.  Why fret over Babylon? 
Granted, looking at is can be pretty astonishing.  But the heavens are rejoicing over her fall.

His eye is on the Sparrow...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sROZuzXeIvI

Peace -
Anne

[sparrow]

Amen, Sparrow.  It is a waste of time to fret over that which is fallen.  Why fret over Babylon? 
Granted, looking at is can be pretty astonishing.  But the heavens are rejoicing over her fall.

His eye is on the Sparrow...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sROZuzXeIvI

Peace -
Anne

Thanks Anne for understanding what I was saying.. :girlheart:

I understand where folks are coming from as far as the outrage and stuff.
I went through a period of time where I was totally getting sucked into all the evil, and it just seemed there was no end. It brought about such a division in my spirit, like I was becoming almost obsessed with researching this crap. And I was pulling further and further away from Him. My focus had really started going down the wrong road. (Forget about "whatosever is pure, etc. think on these things.) Perhaps there are others who are meant to shine a light on these things, I don't know. But perhaps those who know the POWER of love and His amazing grace are meant to put LOVE in the spotlight.... and not fear. We hold onto this LOVE because we KNOW it is REAL. We are to be lightbearers, right? That's what I'm thinking... to not get sucked into this world system with all of it's bizarreness and fear and ridiculous amounts of insane corruption, just turn away from it (not DENY that it is happening, but to just turn away from it and focus on HIM and His amazing love) and cram as much love into this world as we can.

Because THAT is what the world is in desperate need of, LOVE. (God is love.)
NOT more fear. We know this world system is collapsing.  :dontknow:
What's the use in even dwelling on the madness of it all.
We know it's mad.

Shine the light on love. on HIM.



Thanks for the song, it was beautiful.. :HeartThrob:

[Raggedy Anne]

Sparrow -

Thank YOU for taking time to share that with me.  I've been down a number of futile roads  (more than once) .. how we sheep do stray!  And the good Shepherd keeps carrying me back home!  It is incredible how we are truly made to FOLLOW.   If you carefully observe, you will notice that you (and I) and ALWAYS following something or someone.  It is an unchanging phenomenon!   No wonder there are so many admonitions to FOLLOW Christ, to REMEMBER him, to renew our minds, to think on good things.  Everything under the sun is vying for attention.  But only One is worthy to sit on the throne and to be listened to and trusted and obeyed!    Glory to the Lamb!
He is our hiding place... he fills our hearts with songs of deliverance!

"You Are My Hiding Place" by Selah
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Co6HXUN19AY&NR=1