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Molly

Quote from: Taffy on July 18, 2009, 10:35:52 AM
http://www.naturalnews.com/026503_pandemic_swine_flu_bioterrorism.html

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No wonder I've given up sleeping! :mshock:


Welcome back, Taffy!  (I think.)  :icon_flower:

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TAFFY!!!!!! I was thinking of ya yesterday! I wrote Kim re ya.
Did you know I do not have your email address since I redone
my computer? So glad you are back on ......hope you are feeling
better!  Blessings.

Yeah, that swine flu .........better leave them "swine" alone! ha

Maybe they'll run off in the water!

Molly

If pigs could fly I'd fly a pig
To foreign countries small and big



"Swine Flu Made in USA and Canada"


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eNS0Q-uxycA&NR=1

WhiteWings

1 Timothy 2:3-4  ...God our Savior;  Who will have all men to be saved...
John 12:47  And if any man hear my words, and believe not, I judge him not: for I came not to judge the world, but to save the world.
Romans 4:5 But to the one who does not work, but believes in the one who declares the ungodly righteous ...

Molly

An effort to recreate the 1918 flu strain (a subtype of avian strain H1N1) was a collaboration among the Armed Forces Institute of Pathology, Southeast Poultry Research Laboratory and Mount Sinai School of Medicine in New York; the effort resulted in the announcement (on October 5, 2005) that the group had successfully determined the virus's genetic sequence, using historic tissue samples recovered by pathologist Johan Hultin from a female flu victim buried in the Alaskan permafrost and samples preserved from American soldiers.[59]

On January 18, 2007, Kobasa et al. reported that monkeys (Macaca fascicularis) infected with the recreated strain exhibited classic symptoms of the 1918 pandemic and died from a cytokine storm[60] – an overreaction of the immune system. This may explain why the 1918 flu had its surprising effect on younger, healthier people, as a person with a stronger immune system would potentially have a stronger overreaction.[61]

On September 16, 2008, the body of Yorkshireman Sir Mark Sykes was exhumed to study the RNA of the Spanish flu virus in efforts to understand the genetic structure of modern H5N1 bird flu. Sykes had been buried in 1919 in a lead coffin which scientists hope will have helped preserve the virus.[62]

In December, 2008 research by Yoshihiro Kawaoka of University of Wisconsin linked the presence of three specific genes (termed PA, PB1, and PB2) and a nucleoprotein derived from 1918 flu samples to the ability of the flu virus to invade the lungs and cause pneumonia. The combination triggered similar symptoms in animal testing.[63]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1918_flu_pandemic

aspiring son

Welcome back, Taffy.  :bigGrin:

Grace and peace,

Brandon

WhiteWings

Molly,

Eat your silver spoon. Chew very well....
1 Timothy 2:3-4  ...God our Savior;  Who will have all men to be saved...
John 12:47  And if any man hear my words, and believe not, I judge him not: for I came not to judge the world, but to save the world.
Romans 4:5 But to the one who does not work, but believes in the one who declares the ungodly righteous ...

Molly

Quote from: WhiteWings on July 18, 2009, 09:28:02 PM
Molly,

Eat your silver spoon. Chew very well....

wouldn't this be easier?

http://colloidalsilversecrets.blogspot.com/2009/04/colloidal-silver-and-swine-flu-7.html


I have to say, I'll have to do more research.  Meanwhile, I'm hoarding the silver spoon...

WhiteWings

Ha! you already knew :thumbsup:
The device can be build for a few $
The silver is more of a problem.
1 Timothy 2:3-4  ...God our Savior;  Who will have all men to be saved...
John 12:47  And if any man hear my words, and believe not, I judge him not: for I came not to judge the world, but to save the world.
Romans 4:5 But to the one who does not work, but believes in the one who declares the ungodly righteous ...

Beloved Servant

Ya'know,
these types of stories spread fear and panic.
A prime reason I avoid anything out of Hollywood.
I look for rest and peace.
Are you guys just joshin' around or is this true?

WhiteWings

QuoteAre you guys just joshin' around or is this true?
What?
Silver as medication or the Mexican flu?
1 Timothy 2:3-4  ...God our Savior;  Who will have all men to be saved...
John 12:47  And if any man hear my words, and believe not, I judge him not: for I came not to judge the world, but to save the world.
Romans 4:5 But to the one who does not work, but believes in the one who declares the ungodly righteous ...

Beloved Servant

The flu epidemic being a deliberate act.

Molly

Quote from: Beloved Servant on July 18, 2009, 10:17:46 PM
Ya'know,
these types of stories spread fear and panic.
A prime reason I avoid anything out of Hollywood.
I look for rest and peace.
Are you guys just joshin' around or is this true?

What, are you meeting evil for the first time or something?

Allow me to introduce you, Beloved Servant this is Evil, Evil this is Beloved Servant.

Or maybe you could explain to me why anyone in their right (that is, not insane) mind would recreate the recombinant DNA of a deadly flu from 90 year old corpses!

(which by the way just happened to turn up in the human population a few months later at the end of the flu season...)

And, why would you, of all people, be afraid?

John 14:27
Peace I leave with you, my peace I give unto you: not as the world giveth, give I unto you. Let not your heart be troubled, neither let it be afraid.

Beloved Servant

I am not afraid.
And I did consider someone would ask that before I posted in this thread.
It is the spreading of the fear that is the concern.

Taffy

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ty Molly..im still around just very quiet girl  :icon_flower:

ty Red....Kimmy mentioned you in one of her mails   thinking of you too and many others around Tent too   :icon_flower: :icon_flower:

ty AS..Blessings to you :icon_flower:

Molly

Quote from: Beloved Servant on July 18, 2009, 11:06:52 PM
I am not afraid.
And I did consider someone would ask that before I posted in this thread.
It is the spreading of the fear that is the concern.

I thought this was about the spreading of the flu...

Don't you think truth causes a lot of people to be afraid and that is why so many flee from it?

Otherwise,why would it be in such short commodity?

We are each responsible for searching out whatever truth can be found. The only other option is to believe fables until we become fables ourselves.



2 Timothy 4:4
And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables.




Beloved Servant

I love the truth be told.
But the thread is conspiracy.
I understood it as as evil act to deliberately kill people for profit.
Thus I asked: is this true?

Molly

Quote from: Beloved Servant on July 18, 2009, 11:36:27 PM
I love the truth be told.
But the thread is conspiracy.
I understood it as as evil act to deliberately kill people for profit.
Thus I asked: is this true?

You have to decide that for yourself. In fact, you are required to decide that for yourself.

That means being pro-active once you have asked the right questions, and searching out the answers.

Please tell me, if you had the ability to recreate the genetic structure of a deadly flu (not to mention splicing it onto another deadly flu) would you do it?   

What would it take for you to sit in a laboratory and do this?

the effort resulted in the announcement (on October 5, 2005) that the group had successfully determined the virus's genetic sequence, using historic tissue samples recovered by pathologist Johan Hultin from a female flu victim buried in the Alaskan permafrost and samples preserved from American soldiers.

Would you ever think anything good could come out of that?  Or is that sheer evil?

Now mind you, this is not in response to any threat, it is out of the blue. 

So, what would it take for you to do that?  Money?  Threats on your life? Threats on your family?  Or just garden variety insanity?

Have you heard the phrase, "crimes against humanity"?


You think someone is making money on this?  I'm shocked and surprised!  But, here's a stock tip.



Donald Rumsfeld's controversial links to drug company behind Tamiflu




The drug company behind the swine flu medicine Tamiflu is at the centre of controversy over its links to former US Defence Secretary Donald Rumsfeld.

Mr Rumsfeld, a former chairman of the company, has refused to comment on whether he still holds shares in Californian firm Gilead Sciences, which developed the drug now being desperately stockpiled by governments around the world to combat the threatened pandemic.

Last night an associate of Mr Rumsfeld said: 'He does not publicly discuss his private finances.'

However, should Mr Rumsfeld have held on to shares in the company, he would be a major beneficiary of the surge in the global demand for the drug. The NHS alone has already purchased enough Tamiflu to treat three-quarters of the population in the UK.


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1176743/Donald-Rumsfelds-controversial-links-drug-company-Tamiflu.html







Beloved Servant

I take no care for what the governments of this world do.
It even disturbs me to speak of it.
They have no affect on me.
My path is the Way.

Molly

Quote from: Beloved Servant on July 18, 2009, 11:53:50 PM
I take no care for what the governments of this world do.
It even disturbs me to speak of it.
They have no affect on me.
My path is the Way.


Even Jesus didn't take that attitude.

He got in their faces and called them what they are--a brood of vipers.

And, he did that for our benefit, by the way, not his own.

We are in the world, not of it.  So we are to be salt until he returns.

And, also, light.


Beloved Servant

So, perhaps, this is conspiracy theory and not a conspiracy.

Taffy

As Im from the UK..its not long come on the National news ( 2 hrs back)about the concern about the safety of this vaccine.,as some believe its not been tested long enough to ensure that it is...Therefore theres uncertainty of its possible long term side effects..for those who can remember the drug Phalidimide , among others, causing tragic effects ... :sigh:

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Taffy

Hi BS :icon_flower:
For mine, its not about spreading fear or panic..but possibly making folk aware what MAY\ could  happen..and it has in the past to some degree with Drugs..and for sure ,from experience shared by the the voices of others at Tent, who too have suffered at the hand of drugs... :sigh:



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