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Started by aaronclark1989, July 11, 2013, 01:51:36 AM

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WhiteWings

Quote from: aaronclark1989 on July 11, 2013, 01:51:36 AM
I just got done posting a comment on a damnationists video about universal salvation and after that they responded to me once and then blocked me from responding back
What was their answer? "Don't confuse me with facts?"
1 Timothy 2:3-4  ...God our Savior;  Who will have all men to be saved...
John 12:47  And if any man hear my words, and believe not, I judge him not: for I came not to judge the world, but to save the world.
Romans 4:5 But to the one who does not work, but believes in the one who declares the ungodly righteous ...

mplsfitter539

Quote from: WhiteWings on August 14, 2013, 06:41:39 PM
Quote from: aaronclark1989 on July 11, 2013, 01:51:36 AM
I just got done posting a comment on a damnationists video about universal salvation and after that they responded to me once and then blocked me from responding back
What was their answer? "Don't confuse me with facts?"
LOL, that is basically what my parents have said to me. They say if Yahweh saves everyone it wouldn't be fair to those who believe. But Yahshua says

Matthew 20

GOD'S WORD Translation (GW)
A Story about Vineyard Workers

20 "The kingdom of heaven is like a landowner who went out at daybreak to hire workers for his vineyard. 2 After agreeing to pay the workers the usual day's wages, he sent them to work in his vineyard. 3 About 9 a.m. he saw others standing in the marketplace without work. 4 He said to them, 'Work in my vineyard, and I'll give you whatever is right.' So they went.

5 "He went out again about noon and 3 p.m. and did the same thing. 6 About 5 p.m. he went out and found some others standing around. He said to them, 'Why are you standing here all day long without work?'

7 "'No one has hired us,' they answered him.

"He said to them, 'Work in my vineyard.'

8 "When evening came, the owner of the vineyard told the supervisor, 'Call the workers, and give them their wages. Start with the last, and end with the first.'

9 "Those who started working about 5 p.m. came, and each received a day's wages. 10 When those who had been hired first came, they expected to receive more. But each of them received a day's wages. 11 Although they took it, they began to protest to the owner. 12 They said, 'These last workers have worked only one hour. Yet, you've treated us all the same, even though we worked hard all day under a blazing sun.'

13 "The owner said to one of them, 'Friend, I'm not treating you unfairly. Didn't you agree with me on a day's wages? 14 Take your money and go! I want to give this last worker as much as I gave you. 15 Can't I do what I want with my own money? Or do you resent my generosity towards others?'

16 "In this way the last will be first, and the first will be last."

Yahweh is sovereign which makes some think that he is unfair but IMO fair is a relative word which doesn't apply to a sovereign God.
Shema O Israel, Yahweh our Elohim is Yahweh echad!!!

WhiteWings

Quote from: mplsfitter539 on August 15, 2013, 04:28:34 AM
Quote from: WhiteWings on August 14, 2013, 06:41:39 PM
Quote from: aaronclark1989 on July 11, 2013, 01:51:36 AM
I just got done posting a comment on a damnationists video about universal salvation and after that they responded to me once and then blocked me from responding back
What was their answer? "Don't confuse me with facts?"
LOL, that is basically what my parents have said to me. They say if Yahweh saves everyone it wouldn't be fair to those who believe.
There are 2 answers to that. NOT everyone is treated equal. The nasty people will be given an really hard time during Revelation. The bride-people are safe. That's just one example.

The other is more like a question.
Book printing is quite new. And even at KJVs time quite expensive for the common man. Point being Scripture wasn't readily available. Now image that, say 50 years after NT was completed a family lived on the spot your parents live on right now.
They were good people. Even way above average. But they worshipped a tree-god. Can we blame them? They never heard about Jesus. Not even their pastor who told them about the tree-god knew about Jesus. Why must such people burn?

Also note it was God's personal choice to put Jesus on earth 2000 years ago. Not 3000 or 4000. All that time He was basically  a Jew only God. At least I haven't read any verse about God interacting with, say, people in the Amazon.

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1 Timothy 2:3-4  ...God our Savior;  Who will have all men to be saved...
John 12:47  And if any man hear my words, and believe not, I judge him not: for I came not to judge the world, but to save the world.
Romans 4:5 But to the one who does not work, but believes in the one who declares the ungodly righteous ...

Lazarus Short

I copied this from another site, some background on damnation:

AMN in Greek is Lamb. In Hebrew, it is AMEN and TRUE. THE TRUE LAMB!

Amni is River of Life

Amnio is the Bowl catching the sacrifice of the Lamb

Amnion is the sac of the mother's womb.

Amniotic Fluid is the water of the Lamb

Amnesia is your forgetting your sin.

Amnesty is God forgetting.

Damnation is taking your AMN away if you fail to see TRUTH (Aleph Mem Tav). Father, Mother and Son.
Socrates taught Plato.  Plato taught Aristotle.  Aristotle tutored the son of Philip of Macedon.  This boy grew up to become Alexander the Great, largely by slaughtering a lot of people.  That's philosophy.

Jesus spoke the Truth.  He blessed the poor.  He healed the sick.  He even raised the dead.  He died on a cross for us, lived again, and came back long enough to tell us to love one another.  That's religion.

YHVH = Behold the Nail, Behold the Hand = Jesus

WhiteWings

I like that. Especially the 1st line.
1 Timothy 2:3-4  ...God our Savior;  Who will have all men to be saved...
John 12:47  And if any man hear my words, and believe not, I judge him not: for I came not to judge the world, but to save the world.
Romans 4:5 But to the one who does not work, but believes in the one who declares the ungodly righteous ...