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Started by Mickiel, March 31, 2008, 07:44:16 AM

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Mickiel



The Holy Spirit is of great intrest to me, because it spans into so many differing tenants of God. It seems to do a lot of things and has a great deal of responsibility. There are some studies of the bible I have completted, but other areas, like the Holy Spirit, seem endless and vast in discovery. Often a puzzling thing to consider, yet it feeds your consideration itself. I usually have an ideal where a post I participate in will go, but I have no ideal where this will go. The Holy Spirit can be and can do so much, and yet it is an in and out experience with me personally, so I can't land a stationary hand on it. Evasive and mysterious, yet personal and inviting, a paradox to me. To be quite honest, its like I don't know where to start.

The three most difficult characthers in the bible for me has been God himself, Jesus himself and the Holy Spirit, if I may say" Itself", because I don't quite know what it is as of yet. I study the bible everyday, not because I am " So Spiritual", because I think I have made it very clear that I do not have the Holy Spirit, but because the Bible highly intrest me, I simply like it. Its my favorite book bar none. Strangely enough, I think the Word of God " Sucks you into it", and although you are reading it, I often get the notion that it in turn is reading you too.  And thats the first thing I want to get into about the Holy Spirit, I think it " Reads You."

Please excuse my obvious paranoia when I say this, but you ever get the feeling that someone or something is " Looking at You?" Not so much spying on you, but observing you, checking you out. Like a Ghost that you cannot see. And you know some Bible translations do call the Holy Spirit a " Ghost." The Holy Ghost. My bible has changed that everywhere to Spirit, but the Holy Spirit does have certain charactheristics of a Ghost. We can't see it, smell it or touch it, so it can come into and leave our minds or body, without us even knowing it.

I think the Holy Spirit could well be Omnipresent on the Earth, although I have made my belief clear that I do not believe it has established a singular church on earth as of yet. And I do not accept that it is inside of everyone who claims it to be. Let me explain what I mean by it being here on Earth, and what capacity it has now. How could something be Ominipresent? Well we believe God is, but just how is that? If you think about it, what physical things are everywhere on earth? Well right off hand, the Air is everywhere on Earth, so one could say that Air is Omnipresent on Earth, beneath the Earth would be a different story. Air goes into and comes out of every single human being. Its literally everywhere at the same time, and we cannot physiologically state that the Air on earth has a " Seperation". We Americans cannot state that Africans are breathing different Air than we do. The Air they breathe in China, is the same Air in India. And I think the consitution of the Holy Spirit is somewhat simular.

The Holy Spirit is like the Wind, it can be everywhere at the same time. Flowing in and out of a human in Boston and Bancok at the same time. Delivering a prayer from a person in Argentina and a person in New Zealand , to God at the same time. How can someone hide from something like that? There are no secrets that we can keep from it. It can literally come right into our very bodies, fit right in like a glove. Air does the same thing. Air came come right inside of us and take up absolutely no extra space at all. It adds no weight, and it gives no sensation that we can determine its pressence inside of us, and the Holy Spirit can do that.

The Holy Spirit can literally come right into our very brains, go right inside of it. And read every bit of information that is stored there. And this is how it " Reads you", and I think that is quite something. So God knows us, better than we know ourselves. Could be quite intimidating knowing something has the power to get into your noodle and record your entire rationale without you ever knowing it was there. Something that can literally fit itself into your cranium, travel inside of your brain tissue, get small enough to squezze inside of your skull, and yet be vast enough to cover the entire surface of this planet. And to think , some people have denied themselves even belief in this Awe inspiring God.

But I want to go into how the Holy Spirit " Reads us", and Why.  Peace.

Mickiel



Eventually I will go into Baptism of the Holy Spirit, Gifts of the Holy Spirit, the personal pressence  of the Holy Spirit, how it communicates with a human, and how we can know when these things occur. And what other things may come out of this study, we'll just see what happens.

We tend to read each other from the outside looking in, the Holy Spirit does the oppisite, it reads from the inside out. Its effectual workings are done inside of you, I mean literally inside of you. And contrary to some beliefs, it does not have to be perminently in you to deal with you. Those who have it in them continually, if such a person exist, are then truly blessed beyond imagination.

Look at Romans 2:29;" But he is a Jew who is one inwardly; and cricumcision is that of the heart, by the Spirit, not by the letter." Paul was using the religious rite of cutting off the foreskin of males, and one could perform an analogous operation on females also,  to symbolize being spiritually purified. And he compares the power of God to sort of " Pierce the Heart", get right into our very being and perform the operation there. So the Holy Spirit can very well make actual physical changes in our cellular brain structure, and mental, emotional as well as " Human Spirit" changes. It then holds the very power to mold and shape " Personality." It can work on our Conscious and subconscious mind. It can appeal directly to our Neurons and personally transmit impulses from our brain into our nervous systems, its nanism holds no limits. Conversely like a luminous nebula it can cover the earth like an interstellar cloud. And this just blows me away to consider these things. And I don't want to get ahead of myself, but when something like this has gotten into you on a perminent basics, the things it could do are unlimited.

This is how God keeps track of us, its how he knows where you are in your life , how he looks into the " Inner Being." We have made very distintive maps of the world, of our country and cities. Mapblast.com can show you how to almost get anywhere in the US. Tell you from start to finish how to navigate your travel and how much time it will take. Tell you every turn to make and name the freeways and streets to get on. The Holy Spirit can do this with our lives, and take a visual representation of it to God. God can view it and every little detail about us. God has Angels that are called " The Eyes of the Lord", which hold the power to show God any and everything he may want to see. And it may well be that each human God is now dealing with, has an Angel assigned to them, which records and reports back to God concerning their individual assigned human, in addition to the Holy Spirit. So thats two very powerful ways that God could " Read us", outside of him just doing it himself, thats three ways if you include him. Then theres Jesus, thats 4 ways to read us. And if you think in terms of these 4 ways helping us, good greif, we have a virtual powerhouse backing up our lives and careing for us. Such things should help build your confidence.

So I want to go into how the Spirit reads us and why.  Peace.

Mickiel



One reason the Holy Spirit will read someone, is to get to know you. It will partner with you and thus know how to manipulate your life. Now if the Holy Spirit was doing this to a combined group of people, there would be " Group Manipulation", not indivdual manipulation such as we see know, at least those who do see whats really going on. In Acts 16:5 we see group manipulation;" So the churches were being strengthen in the faith, and were increasing in number." When the Holy Spirit will gather a group together, it will deal with them according to a group mentality, not as seperate entities as it does now. The group will be strengthened with a group faith, and group manipulated, and the group will increase in Faith and numbers, and feed off of that group mentality.

Notice vs.6-7; "And they passed through the Phrygian and Galatian region, having been forbidden by the Holy Spirit to speak a word in Asia; and when they came to Mysia, they were trying to go into Bithynia, and the Spirit of Jesus didnot permit them."  Here the Holy Spirit takes active part in actually telling the leaders of the church not to preach in a certain city, and then the Spirit of Jesus himself, comes down from heaven and manipulates them into not going into another city. The reason for these most dynamic interventions, is because the Holy Spirit knew what  Paul and Silas, Barnabas and Mark were like, and when you add to that a newly converted Timothy, your talking about some firey sermons being preached to these citys. They probally would have been killed if allowed to go into these areas. So the Spirit reads us in order to guide us and lead our lives into and out of, or avoid situations. We may not reconize why we are diverted into areas of our lives, but the manipulation often is because the Holy Spirit " Knows how we are." What we would most likely do if thrust into certain situations.

When the Holy Spirit switches from a working with an  individual mentality to working with a group mentality, it is ready to build on the church and establish it. This is the sign that many who rush the things of God, fail to understand. They covet the church and think it has been established before the Holy Spirit establishes it. In Acts 9:31, the church enjoyed Peace and was being built " Up", it continued to increase and was being Group comforted. The Peace was amoungst themselves. It will be no different when the Holy Spirit switches into a group mold during the age to come.

And I want to show how to reconize this switching phase of the Holy Spirit.  Peace.

Mickiel



There is a distinct difference in the Holy Spirit dealing with an individual, and it dealing with a church, or a group of people. The Holy Spirit will speak directly to a church. Notice Revelations 2:7, 11, 17 and 29; 3:6, 13, and 22. All say let them hear what the Spirit says to the church. It speaks directly to everyone, not just one here and another there. We are not presently experiencing this, we just are not. Its now individual, not grouped together churchs. And I question the level of individuals that speak publically that the Spirit is now currently inside of them perminently. Not because I don't trust their word, but because I have examined Gods word, and I see discrepensy.

In Luke 4:14, Jesus returned to Galilee after his battle with satan, and he was " In the Power of the Holy Spirit." He imediately started teaching, " Doing things", and the vast majority of people he preached too  were unconverted unbelievers who couldcareless about what he was saying. In vs. 18-19, he said the Spirit of the Lord was " Upon him" and it annointed him to preach and teach, and heal and set people free. To proclaim the comming Kingdom of God. The Spirit bade him into action, and you can literally see the inactivity and withdrawal aittitude in some who now claim to have the Holy Spirit of God. I can see it in their words, one key to the mind, how they are pulling away from witnessing and proclaiming this message, how they are in withdrawal. This does NOT compute with their claims of being annointed with Gods Spirit. And the Holy Spirit can read that.

When the Spirit comes, so does Power and excitement, movement and energy, work and labor. You are going to start doing the things that God wants done. Thats what Christ did.

Mickiel



The Study of the Holy Spirit intrest me, because I think that is the largest deception currently going on in the world of believers, Universalist included. If it were truly  known how many do not really have it, there would be utter shock in the world of believers. People would be severly let down, and I personally believe that to be the comming cause of a great " Falling away", the " Let down syndrome", total discuss comming from believers who had felt for so long that they had Gods Spirit, when they really didnot. Many of them are going to be so embarrased when they discover this, so humiliated, that instead of handling it in the right aittitude, they are just going to go away in discuss and bewilderment. I believe this, and this event will severly prune the developing house of God.

I want to go into Baptism of the Holy Spirit.

Mickiel



In Luke 3:16 a clear distinction is made between being baptised in water and being baptised in the Holy Spirit. The  Holy Spirit is the center of Christian Coveting right now. Its the thing, its the cream of the crop, its the emporers robe. Its what everyone is claiming to have, what they are claiming, means they believe they have been Baptised by the Holy Spirit.

The Holy Spirit does not Baptise people itself, Jesus Baptises the people and uses the Holy Spirit to do it. Look at Mark 1:8. Just as some use the conduit of water to baptise people, Jesus uses the Conduity of the Holy Spirit to baptise his annointed. And I disagree with those who accept the " Down payment of the Holy Spirit belief", I believe the Baptism of the Spirit is a total immersion by it. A total receiving of its fruits and its gifts.

And I want to touch on that.  Peace.

Mickiel



A very common mistake in belief that I have observed, is the belief that when the Spirit enters you, that means you have been baptised by it. That is not so, the Spirit can and does " Enter people", and that have nothing to do with Christ " Baptizing them with the Spirit." The Holy Spirit can enter your body, your mind, your bloodstream, your nervous system, and you still not be baptised by it. It will flow in and out of people, weather they are called of God or not. The Holy Spirit will enter into and influence a " Carnal Mind", an unbeliever or anyother kind of human you so choose to list. How do you think God influences world affiars? So the " Entering of the Spirit" is not the same as the Baptism of the Spirit. The entering of the Spirit means the Holy Spirit will enter, or influence someone, and then it leaves. It enters then it will exit. The Baptism of the Holy Spirit means that Jesus has literally taken his Holy Spirit, combined it with the Holy Spirit of God, and then totally immersed you into it, gets it all inside of you, and leaves it in you, not to exit.

That is the Baptism of the Holy Spirit, its " Totally in you." And I want to go into that.  Peace.

Mickiel



Examine closely Acts 1:5;" For John Baptised with water, but you shall be baptised with the Holy Spirit not many days from now." Now we need to keep a very close comparrison reference here. The baptism of water and the Holy Spirit are both baptisms, and both are very simular. With water, the person is totally immersed into it, it is no different with the Holy Spirit, the human is totally immersed into it, and it into you. With water, there is a person being baptised and a person doing the baptising. With Spirit, there is a person being baptised, and there is Jesus doing the Baptizing. The Holy Spirit does not do it by itself.

The Holy Spirit is not an independant Power, it is ONE of the many Powers of God. Now Christ has a mind of his own that is in complette submission to his Father God, I don't know if the Holy Spirit assigned to humanity has a mind simular to Christ having one. I think the Holy Spirit is one of the many " Extensions of God", which I call " Protozoan", from lack of another term. Simular to a human having five distinct individual " Fingers" that form in conjunction the " Hand", which all work together in complette unison by our will, the 7 Spirits of God I think are simular. Yet Gods power is so utterly vast and all powerful, these Spirits just automactically, without thinking on their own, just do Gods will. But they are very, very powerful.

These Spirits are " Connected to God", and like our own fingers, they do have Life in them. But they will never act independant from God, much like our own fingers wouldnot act independant from us. So nobody gets baptised in the Spirit, unless God so wills it to be. Being baptised in the Spirit then, is literally " God laying hands on you himself." You have been compettely touched by him, marked with his imprints and sealed with this mark on your forehead, or your very being.  So I want to go into this Baptism of the Spirit.  Peace.

Mickiel



Baptism in the Holy Spirit is something only Jesus can do. No preacher can do it, and no other Spirit being will do it. In John 1:33;" And I didnot reconize him, but he who sent me to baptize in water said to me, he upon whom you see the Spirit descending  AND REMAINING upon him, this is the one who baptizes in the Holy Spirit." Notice here John said the Spirit going in and " Remaining", and that is significant. I have been talking about the Spirit going into peoples mind, teaching and influencing them, and then leaving, as it does with me. It does not remain. And here is where I think many error in their Faith, they just, for understandable reasons, would like to believe that it has remained within them at all times. They know that the Spirit has entered their minds, they know that, but hold far too much pride and coveting for the Spirit, to equally reconize when it has left. They just cannot think and believe in terms of it comming back to them when it pleases, so they take it into perminence by the force of their own belief. Well the Holy Spirit cannot be forced to stay, so the person lives within the illusion that it does stay all the time. In this manner, they are turned into " Illusionist", and that gives a foothold to the master of illusion. And they are at a disadvantage, yet believe they are at an advantage.

When the Spirit " Remains" then you have been baptized in it. Now Jesus is called " The One who Baptizes in the Spirit." So although Jesus never Baptized anyone with water, he is the One who Baptizes in the Spirit. You can't now see Jesus, because he is now a Spirit being, thus when he Baptizes people whom he does, its done " In the Spirit", and cannot be seen by the human being baptized, or the public. And I want to touch on that a bit.  Peace.

Mickiel



All the baptisms being performed on earth now is water baptism. Jesus didnot baptize with water, because he knew he was destined to baptize with the Spirit. Now just how does Jesus baptize with the Spirit? Well there is only one biblical example of him baptizing someone in the Spirit, while he was in the flesh and not yet returned to Heaven. In John 20:22 Jesus " Breathed on them" and said receive the Holy Spirit.  That is how one is baptized by the Holy Spirit, Jesus Breathes on them, which is strikingly simular to God Breathing into humans the breath of Life.

Look at the simularity there. The Holy Spirit is " Breathed into a Human", the Breath of life is Breathed into a human, so lets examine this for a bit. Breathed into, means that it is comming out of God, or out of Christ, and going into the human, and REMAINS! The breath of life remains, its constant and consistant, and the evidence of it is that the person is alive! The Holy Spirit then would " Be no different!" Once you are baptized by it, once it is breathed into you, it will remain and your life will be Spiritually consistant. And I believe that. One reason why we see so much inconsistancy in believers, is because they have not been baptized by the Holy Spirit. And I believe that too, and I realize it is an unpopular belief. It is so obvious when a human is physically dead, and its just as obvious when a person has not been baptized by the Holy Spirit, oh so obvious. But when the obvious cannot be seen, then a grand illusion has been accomplished.  Peace.

Mickiel



I am inclined to believe that part of blasphemy of the Holy Spirit, is to claim that you have been baptised by the Holy Spirit, and you have not. And oh what an avoidable subject that is, people just willnot consider it. In Matt.12:31-32, Jesus considers this a very serious offense. Most believers just gloss over this as if it has nothing to do with them. Mark repeats Jesus words in 3:29. Blasphemy is to speak things or claim things about the Holy Spirit that are lacking the truth. From a standpoint of wanting in reverence for God, it is to make claims, from the spirit of Coveting, that God has done something with his Holy Spirit, that he has not.

When God has baptized you with his Holy Spirit, it eternally remains, so it is an eternal thing. To lie about it, is then what Christ calls an " Eternal Sin", or you have sinned in the area concerning an Eternal thing. You are lying about an eternity issue, and sin will never be forgiven in Eternity, never. Because it willnot exist in eternity. Blasphemy are verbal words that have to be Spoken, and for someone to witness about Christ, but do so from a personal standpoint of bearing false witness about their own Spirituality, is a compacted work in vain.

So in my view, most blasphemers are believers in God, who bear false witness about their own Spirituality . I would like to touch on the " Gifts" of the Spirit just a bit.  Peace.

Mickiel



The Gifts of the Holy Spirit is a subject of intrest and there are certain things about the whats and whys of these gifts that I want to get into, because I think they are misunderstood and misused. Before I go into those gifts, let me say that I think one of the greatest gifts from God that a human could have, is the understanding of what they " Don't have from God." When serious sentimental Pride preceeds a gift from God, then I think the gift is " Quenched." In 1Thess. 5:19;" Do not Quench the Spirit."  And let me explain where I think the Spirit is mostly being Quenched nowadays. Now I think God wants to give his Spirit more than he does, but I believe that many, many people have coveted his Spirit so much, that they just cannot wait for him to give it, so they passify themselves by believing that they already have it, or that he has given it, rather than face the reality that they must wait for it, or that they don't have it. This is mostly pride, and they are seduced into believing that they have it, by the gifts of God himself that were previously given, and those gifts were " Taken as a sign" that they have Gods Spirit, a most serious error in understanding and an obvious sign of a lack of patience. Having a gift from God does NOT mean you have his Holy Spirit, but it is a very positive sign that he wants to give you more gifts and his Holy Spirit also in the comming future. But many people simply cannot handle the Gifts of God. A very sad but true reality.

Now consider that God wants to give a human something, and somehow that human gets wind of it, and before God can give it to them, they have already claimed it and live as if they have already obtained it. Well often its the bible that " Gave them wind of it", so in this manner often the bible itself is the impetus for coveting the things of God. Which is a most unusual reality, and satan has gotten wind of this reality and he milks it like a cow. Now Also consider the place that this puts God in, but remember that God is a " Teacher", he will take the time to teach, he does not always instantly remedy things. When God sees that the human has coveted the gift and already claimed it, I believe that so very often " Abates the Gift", or surpresses the Action God was going to take, which is how we then Quench the Spirit of God. And I want to go into what this then does to a person.  Peace.

Mickiel


Concerning Spiritual Gifts from God, I think Paul covers that very nicely in 1 Corinth.12. In vs.7 he states that each gift is given through a " Manifestation of the Spirit", for the " Common Good." And again I think this is where the Gifts from God are complettely misunderstood. People tend to think that Gods gifts " Of the Spirit" is evidence of the Holy Spirit remaining within them or dwelling perminently within them as if it is a personal thing, that is inncorrect and just not true. Try to understand this. What does Manifestation mean? It means public display. It means to prove to the public what was made evident to you. Now what does Common mean? Common means the community at large, in the sense of the public. It means equally shared by  two or more individuals.

So we have Manifestation, or public display, and we have common, which means community at large or shared by two or more. Now what can you put together with this concerning the Gifts of the Spirit being manifested for the common Good? The Spiritual Gifts of God are NOT evidence of you personally being individually in possession of the Holy Spirit! If you have a gift from God, it  is for the common good of OTHER people you deal with in private or mostly in public! Again, as it is with Witnessing, the gifts of God are given for the benefit of others, not you!

People make it a very personal issue to claim the Spirit of God is within them, bragging about what it has done for " Them" and how it has changed them. They are witnessing about " Themselves", as if the personal testimony from Christ was about himself. You see witnessing has become very selfish and the gifts from God has been infected by this selfishness, to where even they have been dealt with selfishly.

And I want to go into that.  Peace.

Mickiel



Almost every gift of the Spirit can be mocked and turned inward for selfish gain. I want to go through each one Paul list in 1Corinth. 12 and explain. First the gift of wisdom. Wisdom is simply " Knowing how it is", the understanding to correctly discern right and truth and to judge and " Act Accordingly." Do you see " Act Accordingly", again this involves outward action. Yet many see wisdom as an inward thing and are seduced and inticed to " Keep it in themselves." Imagine holding a world of wisdom, and enjoying it to yourself. Or just sharing it with your little group.

Gods Spiritual wisdom is not a " Little Groupie Thing", but many are attracted to it being that, by the scriptures itself. Scriptures like many are called but few are chosen, no one can come to me unless the Father draws them. Again these scriptures are used by the negative forces on the earth, to lead people into little groups that give honor to themselves for " Understanding the things of God." Like sheep, they are herded into sections of society and effectively silenced. They are then no longer witnesses of God, they are witnesses of themselves, and usually spend their time debating amoungst themselves. Paradeing their wisdom back and forth to each other, reassuring each other and pacifying each other, all done in the name of God, and they view this as a " Wise thing to do."

This is not wisdom, it is the effectual silencing of the truth of God to the public. It turns an outward thing into an inward thing, thus the people pacify themselves. Wisdom should involve some discretion, but the witness of the truth cannot become obsolete because of being discrete. I want to touch on the " Word of Knowledge", a most powerful gift of God.  Peace.

Mickiel



Spiritual Knowledge is a very powerful gift, even carnal Knowledge, its counterpart,  is powerful. By this gift, many are first introduced to the truth. Spiritual Knowledge is a perception of Gods Truth, you are given certain apprehension that gives you a familiarity with the things of God.  You become acquainted with the word of God, and acquainted with the Holy Spirit, which only means the Spirit is now working with your mind. Yet  Spiritual knowledge is not given to become stagnant within your head or stay in a corner in your mind like one would stay in their bedroom at home. Even Knowledge demands action, the action of growth because Knowledge is a branch of learning. With knowledge the self does benefit and profit, but one of the greatest things a person can give another person, is knowledge.

Knowledge coupled with experience is a dynamic dual because over the course of time it will increase and should effect your experiences. Through Knowledge the Holy Spirit will teach. But Knowledge has a " Key." Notice Jesus in Luke 11:52;" Woe to you Lawyers! For you have taken away the Key of Knowledge." Jesus spoke this in response to the Lawyers and Pharisees who weighed men down with hard burdens, using knowledge to do so. They were neglecting others and using Knowledge as a platform to establish themselves as elite. The Key to knowledge is production in righteousness.

There will soon be a harvest of the World, in which God will gather together the people of the world. Those of us who benefit from Christ paying his Price, should take the lead in the witness of this harvest. There is a danger with Knowledge in that it can make one arrogant, 1Corinth. 8:1. The more you know, the more you can become puffed up with selfish pride, and selfish pride manifested can evolve into using knowledge to make you be the key, and not Gods righteousness, you are magnified. Knowledge edifies yourself but shouldnot get stuck on yourself, it should move outward and the edification needs to spread, you shoulnot try to keep it all in you. It becomes a bit much and could swell your head, you need to let some of it out when opportunity knocks. But I want to go a lot deeper into Knowledge.  Peace.

Mickiel



Knowledge is a two edged sword, it can be a power that can go in many directions. It can be a great gift or a great deception. It can be an entrance to reason or and exit from reason. It can be Prestidigitation in the mind, it can " Juggle" your thoughts. Certain beliefs can be implanted within your belief process and they will Hic-cup other thoughts that will create what I call " Involuntary Beliefs." Involuntary belief is when one has gone along a certain line of thinking for so long, that produces a habitual way of consideration which takes a life of its own. Now you are believing things which are really independant of will or choice, its more like loosing your conscious control, and a more powerful unconsciousness has control.

This is how I consider the most powerful grips of deception that have gripped the minds of people, something so potent, that it is now Involuntary. And Spiritual deception can be deadly when it becomes Involuntary. The person will fight hard to keep their deception because they are reacting Involuntarily. Atheism is a good example of this. They cannot consider God because their belief system is acting independant from their own will. Kind of like being on automatic pilot, other things are now in control. I view people who are downright convinced that they have the Holy Spirit in this same mannerisn. They Involuntarily claim it, it is no longer their will or choice, but somethingelse has them by the mind. And they believe that something to be God.


The Knowledge of God is not Involuntary, but how can you track it? How can you know its of God and its not just something being produced by the other powers that be?  And I want to touch on that.  Peace.

Mickiel



Belief in an eternal punishing hell is another classic example of Involuntary belief. Many people who believe this, have not even considered the whole ramifications of it. Its like building a house without building the foundation first, and then afterwards not even considering the foundation. Taking no thought whatsoever about a foundation. This goes beyond lack of knowledge or reaction, it is mindless will or unconscious consciousness. Hell belief is a sign that conscious peoples belief system is unconscious. They have " Dream Knowledge." They have a succession of images or beliefs and ideas that are present in their minds that they really, being conscious, are unconscious of. People who have this reality can hold some very wild beliefs. Its like talking to someone whos thoughts have gone wild and you think to yourself, where does this stuff come from, are they dreaming?  Well yes, in a sense they are.

Their knowledge is being produced in an Involuntary manner which seems very real to them. It then becomes A visionary fancy voluntarily indulged in while awake. It is now an aim of hope,  could be something of beauty or charm, or deadly deception now invoked into reality. And when Knowledge is produced in this manner, its roots can run very, very deep.  Peace.

Mickiel



With Knowledge there is a variety , as I said before, it can branch into differing areas.  One could have " Erudition", which is chiefly knowledge gained from books and study, and one could label that as " Scholarship" and that be correct. Our educational system is entirely based on this, at least in my view. Spiritual Knowledge is quite different, but in some cases may include scholarship. All theologians and degree holders are not " Spiritual", just as all Spiritual people are not Scholars, and on rare occassion we have a combination of the two. Cognition is perception, perception is knowing, knowing is knowledge. Knowledge has its own Lore and the Bible has its own Lore, but at some point one would hope their knowledge is really Spiritual and not folklore or traditional learning.

So how can you know that your knowledge is of God? I want to get into that a bit.  Peace.

Mickiel



There are two ways to know that your Knowledge is from God, the Bible and Revelation from the Spirit. If the Spirit places something in your mind the bible will confirm it. If the bible puts something in your mind the Spirit will confirm it. Thats it in a nutshell. Thats how it goes, back and forth. In and out. When you know that you didnot put it there, its easier to understand that God put it there. But thats the hard part, many of us just know " We put it there." You have got to know that you didnot do it, or self will get in the way, I'm telling you self will get in the way.

Mickiel



There is a " Fine mesh" or blending between your human Spirit and Gods Spirit when it comes to vist you, espically over a period of time that it continually comes. The more it vists you the more you become like God, the more aware and influenced you are. Eventually it becomes frightenly easy to get mixed up on which Spirit is leading you, your Spirit or Gods. Because his Spirit is " Wearing on you", becomming a serious part of your mind, your very being. I think there are times, in this delima, that the human spirit will " Mimic Gods Spirit", and it actually can assert itself as if its Gods Spirit. And this is understandable. As I grapple with why so many are claiming to have Gods Spirit, this has been shown to me. The desire can be overwhelming and the human spirit simply asserts itself. And this is how self can very subtlely get in the way.

I think this is one reason why the Apostle Paul so often spoke, " This is me speaking, not God", he wanted to keep as clear of a distinction between his spirit, which is his self and opinion, and Gods Spirit, which is Gods self and opinion. And the two can become so intertwined, that the person can think it is the Spirit speaking, when it is really their own spirit. Eventually does it come to a point that it does not matter, where the two become one and function as one where it wouldnot make a difference? Well I think that is , or would be, a very " Advanced" situation, I don't want to say " No, that won't happen", but I don't want to say yes either. What keeps me from saying that it can occur, is again Jesus. Jesus said continually, " Not my will Father, but yours be done", a clear distinction and seperation. And if you really think about it, what would be wrong with Jesus asserting his own will, if he did? I am hard pressed to think of anything being wrong with Jesus will alone, and not Gods will. But Jesus sees something there that he would avoid. And what I think Jesus saw was the difference in Gods will and his own. The danger in dealing with an omnipotent will such as his Fathers, and going into such an awesome situation and trying to assert your own will.

But this can be confusing, because we have to be assertive, but the wisdom is how and when? And one answer in understanding when to be assertive, I think concerns the mission you are on. Jesus was sent here on a mission, that required him to be perfect , there was no room for error. What do you do when there is no room for error, you let Gods will overide your own, that is the best thing to do in the situation Christ was in. That needs to be understood, that is why Jesus kept his focus on his Father so much, there was no room for mistakes. Which leads into other things about Christ mission.  Peace.

Song

Quote from: Mickiel on April 08, 2008, 06:01:39 PM
Jesus was sent here on a mission, that required him to be perfect , there was no room for error. What do you do when there is no room for error, you let Gods will overide your own, that is the best thing to do in the situation Christ was in. That needs to be understood, that is why Jesus kept his focus on his Father so much, there was no room for mistakes. Which leads into other things about Christ mission.  Peace.

That's true Mickiel. Jesus essentially gave us a guide for being a human through His actions. Since He is the Holy Spirit, He let the Holy Spirit guide Him. There are many mistakes that we can make that can come from losing focus on God and going after other evil things instead after all. It reminds me of this conversation I had with a friend of mine, who recently became a believer in Jesus Christ and thus who recently gained the Holy Spirit.

Here is a friend of mine who asks for help when it comes to mental issues. They are a new believer in Christ, they just recently had faith alone in Jesus and thus they were saved. One important tool that all believers have (which will be everyone eventually in their own turn) is the Holy Ghost inside of them, otherwise known as the Comforter, the Advocate. He is God and can pray to Our Father in Heaven on our behalf, to ask us for things that can help us. It?s what makes every believer a temple of God, because the Spirit of the Lord rests inside all people that makes them righteous. It?s what cleans us to enter in Heaven. So the City of New Jerusalem will have everyone in the whole world there, but each person as their own temple of God, with the Holy Ghost inside each one. We were created with the breath of life breathed into the first human Adam, but now we will have the true breath of life, the Spirit of God, dwell inside all of us for permanent life.

?        Joel 2:28 God's Spirit "will be poured out on ALL FLESH."



can.of.soup ? 03/16/2023 1:03 AM

Living in a forest like area with all my dragons honestly sounds like a dream come true! XD I really love reading your answers, I love how enthusiastic you are and it makes me excited every time I see you?ve answered!



I was having a really tough time tonight, I struggle with some unchecked mental issues, but reading what you had sent me genuinely helped me calm down and I really truly thank you and the lord for that.



I think right now the only thing stopping me from truly saying I believe in Jesus Christ is that anxious feeling of ?what if I?m actually lying to myself? What if I?m only saying these things to try and ease my fear of death?? I am a very anxious person and certainly an over thinker. I do know you helping me has opened up a little part of me who truly does believe, but there?s still that anxious voice in the back of my head telling me I?m lying to myself.



I never thought I?d be a Christian or even think any of this to be true because of those harmful stereotypes and those other Christian?s with evil intentions, but you?ve helped me quite a lot. I was always scared of religion, to be honest I started believing in Greek gods because all my friends were, but I think now I truly believe in Jesus Christ. When I die I want to be saved, I want to continue to live life with the comfort that there is something else out there, and.. ack I don?t know how to put this into words without it sounding as a form of greed, sometimes I have trouble formulating sentences. The little belief that my anxious voice hasn?t crushed fills me with comfort about what?s to come.



So I reply with the following

Prayer can move mountains :) Matthew 7:7 Ask and it will be given to you; seek and you will find; knock and the door will be opened to you. The latter ?knocking on the door? I relate to when you first directly messaged me. To be honest, relative to the amount of people that I evangelize to, very few people take the initiative to directly ask me questions. So I was impressed, and continue to be impressed by your enthusiasm and curiosity! These answers are like ?the door being opened?. So, I agree you made the right choice.



What completes that verse is your friend moving back, even if you didn?t specifically ask, the Spirit of God in all believers can ask for us.



Romans 8:26 Likewise the Spirit helps us in our weakness. For we do not know what to pray for as we ought, but the Spirit Himself intercedes for us with groanings too deep for words.



That?s why I agree when you say ?there?s no way it can simply be a coincidence?. Everything you experienced lines up perfectly with scripture. Even your sudden bad luck turned good. Historically, I?ve been fortunate enough to witness many events falling into place too perfectly like this, for me these experiences of yours must surely be a sign.



It truly warms my heart that you would like to remain friends. It?s more than okay with me to continue being friends. In truth, I see all who are friends of mine as permanent friends. Just like how the Holy Spirit is permanently dwelling within you, and within me, so too will I always remain your friend :)



I always have many things to say, and find it hard to find those who will listen, so I thank you as well for hearing me out and for your responses. You?ve also helped me, aided me in organizing my thoughts, in having the opportunity to research topics that I haven?t thought of yet. When I think of your salvation, I humble myself and I?m very very grateful to the Lord of Hosts for providing me with this special opportunity. <3



Isaiah 52:7 How beautiful on the mountains are the feet of those who bring good news, who proclaim peace, who bring good tidings, who proclaim salvation, who say to Zion, ?Your God reigns!?



Romans 10:15 And how can they preach unless they are sent? As it is written: "How beautiful are the feet of those who bring good news!"



In terms of remaining, of course, I have no idea how much ?time remaining? I have on Earth, and on these websites. I?ve been banned from Twitch, Facebook, Twitter, account banned and IP banned from other Christian forums ironically enough lol (not all who claim to be ?Christian? are loving unfortunately), shadow-banned from Reddit, Roblox servers and Discord servers. In case this Discord account ever gets banned, my email address song@jesus-saves-all.com will serve as a good backup line of communication.
https://jesus-saves-all.com/
- Harold Samson(g)
I will praise the name of God with song Psalm 69:30