For God is not the author of confusion, but of peace, as in all churches of the saints.
If this is the case why has God caused all of this confusion in the world from different religions to different interpretation.
Quote from: Aerex on July 28, 2015, 04:55:46 PM
For God is not the author of confusion, but of peace, as in all churches of the saints.
If this is the case why has God caused all of this confusion in the world from different religions to different interpretation.
God did indeed subject the creation to vanity......in hope, knowing the end from the beginning.
Christ is stability in our lives, and brings us peace in the world that is in a state of confusion.
We get delivered from our personal state of confusion through faith in the love of God through Jesus Christ. The rest of the world has not yet arrived, but we can offer what has been given to us.
Why? I don't know for sure, but it most certainly leads back to love.
God who is love, and made the ages through love(Jesus Christ), is allowing us to go through various trials so we can see and manifest more love.
The questions that you have about faith are all part of growing in Christ.
I'm no know it all, I just want to know one thing, the way, the truth, the life, the peace, that is in the risen Christ Jesus.
The confusion in the world needs and has a body of Christ that is alive and manifesting the way, the truth, the life, the peace, and love that is in Christ.
That is God's love for the world, a present administration of love.
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the spirit of truth will lead you into all truth[out of the confusion] He is the truth! many false christs/false-prophets compete
for our ear[satan has his own transforming angels[messengers ] of light.liars/murderer and robber spirits.
spirit and truth..you will know the truth and the truth will set you free.[from all confusion/doubt]
If there is confusion currently, and if God made it so [that's a BIG if] then He is doing it as one of His tools. Remember that He has not given all to understand everything in this life. Some are left in ignorance and/or confusion in this life. I do not understand it all, but I accept it. In time, all will be made clear.
Amen to all of the above! It's my belief God made all things perfect, as what with being Perfect Himself, He could do no less (imo). And in His perfection, that He chose, knowing all the end from the beginning, to endow thinking ability.
Which, although so very very limited, includes sooner or later the ability to make choices.. and thus the world as it is, for the result of self interest (ultimately) is lies and oppression among other things. Yet Jesus, having been "lifted up from the earth, will draw all" unto Him.
And thus, I believe, is the world saturated with lies / untruth. I believe He has (of course?) done all things just the way He has in order to bring about the very best of all outcomes and 'end' results. That He is not done with the work of creation, but creation includes proving and etching deeply upon every heart, mind and psyche the full understanding of good from evil which (imo) is also life from death and true from untrue, but most importantly is life from nonlife. Nonlife, imo, being the very real potential, but which none will be lost to. For He is "gathering all things in heaven and earth" (fully, joyfully and wholeheartedly) into Jesus".
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Quote from: marie glen on July 29, 2015, 02:59:52 AM
I believe He has (of course?) done all things just the way He has in order to bring about the very best of all outcomes and 'end' results.
That would include, among other things, the inability of any one to boast.
Amen! ...He being all in all.. :dsunny:
Quote from: Aerex on July 28, 2015, 04:55:46 PM
For God is not the author of confusion, but of peace, as in all churches of the saints.
If this is the case why has God caused all of this confusion in the world from different religions to different interpretation.
I don't think God caused it. He just did little to prevent it.
Good answers all around!! :thumbsup:
I thought about if you leave the world to itself , it will be consuming itself .. devouring beast # 4 in Daniel 7 ;7 ... beast iron teeth crushing and trampling
between the good and evil , both are at work , the good and evil mixing and confusion
Many believe the Roman empire is the 4th beast !! In allegory to me it is BABYLON still , but under the different Kings of the earth
But Jesus Christ IS THE KING[ONE AND ONLY ] of kings [many rulers] and LORD /MASTER of lords/ masters [many] given power to do evil , BUT ONLY GOD IS GOOD , JESUS CHRIST IS THE ONLY GOOD THAT MAKES PERFECT , complete , entire and without lack , all them others are destroyers that work eveil in the world and make you wonder where is God in all this mess !? !!
HE IS ONLY revealed to those whom faith , hope and LOVE are manifested in , because without faith it is impossible to please HIM !!!
How do we acquire faith ? every man is given a measure of it , and its what you DO with that faith that determines the outcome .....
The scriptures are TRUTH , there is a narrow path that leads to Life AND few find it in this life ..world realm , and there is the broad path that leads to destruction [violence ] and this is the truth of the matter , many go though this way to receive Christ in the end .. and Christ gives all this over to God to be all and all in the end
Every knee will bow and surrender GIVE UP and every tongue confess Christ , without leaving anyone out in the end of the age of being human , flesh and blood , It is just some are surrendering now while still in the flesh and blood realm , for me this is the difference between knowing God now and not knowing God now ........ this life and its troubles and woes leads many to have CHOKE OUT THE WORD OF GOD / LIVING INSIDE THEM
The parable of the seeds planted in men's hearts being the WORD OF GOD / JESUS CHRIST the Salvation anointed ONE in Jesus testimony ! Jesus testimony is the Spirit of prophecy that is TRUE and comes to pass over and over and over again in this realm .
[ relm ]
NOUN archaic literary law
a kingdom:
"the peers of the realm"
synonyms: kingdom · country · land · dominion · nation
and the 30 fold and 60 fold and 100 fold reaping and sowing of Gods WORD LIVING IN them , the 100 % is the complete and perfect coming within them . that Paul says are some now , even back in his time when he wrote what he was witnessing by the Spirit of truth being the testimony of Jesus Christ and expounding on it and had it within him as the SPIRIT OF PROPHECY ... What is happening now and what has happened and what will happen as over and over and over again and again as we see the results of a world in chaos but Gods saving grace is STILL in effect .....
Daniel's Vision of the Four Beasts
...6"After this I kept looking, and behold, another one, like a leopard, which had on its back four wings of a bird; the beast also had four heads, and dominion was given to it. 7"After this I kept looking in the night visions, and behold, a fourth beast, dreadful and terrifying and extremely strong;
and it had large iron teeth. It devoured and crushed and trampled down the remainder with its feet; and it was different from all the beasts that were before it, and it had ten horns.
8"While I was contemplating the horns, behold, another horn, a little one, came up among them, and three of the first horns were pulled out by the roots before it; and behold, this horn possessed eyes like the eyes of a man and a mouth uttering great boasts.
a Horn is a power granted by God for eyes of understanding verses , these ''eyes'' of mans seeing the natural things and not spiritual things , this is why Jesus said if you EYE offends you pluck it out ,, a natural man in interpreting would think Jesus wants you to tear you eye out
This has been the struggle from the beginning the WORD OF GOD IS SPIRITUAL TRUTH , not natural and human truth , Mans ways are violent
and we have those thousands of divisions and religions because of the mixing of the two ways of dividing truth between the soul and the spirit in a man
Not every spirit is Gods HOLY ONE , just as all souls are of the natural realm in Adam and die or are as dead to God ... God is the God of the Living NOT the dead , Jesus is the Lord / Master of the dead and the living NOW ... and HE ALONE determines who is worthy of life and death
The confusion lies in the constant movement between the two realms of LIFE and death
Eph 1 Prayer for Spiritual Wisdom
...17that the God of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Father of glory, may give to you a spirit of wisdom and of revelation in the knowledge of Him. 18I pray that the eyes of your heart may be enlightened, so that you will know what is the hope of His calling, what are the riches of the glory of His inheritance in the saints, 19and what is the surpassing greatness of His power toward us who believe. These are in accordance with the working of the strength of His might...
Gods realm is not of this world , He visits in hearts of men and some he stays , but Jesus come to bring a SWORD / WORD
That does divide and ...man is it so busy right now and has been for a long while !!
Dividing souls from spirits Heb 4
I personally am in a huge test of faith right now . BIG TIME and would love some prayers , my state of being ''heart sick '' over the cares of this life and its woes is never ever easy to go though such suffering and loss , But God is in CONTROL and this too shall pass ...
I would say it is being divided within myself and we know it wont stand ,, in other words will be effected permanently by this test of faith ..
God bless .. :HeartThrob: