Why are men afraid of death?
Why do we who claim to love the Lord and all that He says is true, why do we fight the unexpected end called death?
Why is death a feared step in our walk?
Is death the end?
Does death mean its over when a soul quits breathing?
Quote from: micah7:9 on September 01, 2011, 10:10:36 AM
Why are men afraid of death?
Never been afraid of death. It's one of the least bad things that can happen in a life :2c:
For me, the source of the fear is not from spirit but from soul. It's afraid because it can not see. If it can't see it, then it can't control it. If it can't control it, then as a reflexive personal defensive measure, it releases fear because fear is the greatest motivator to iniate control. If you don't want someone to go somehere or do something, you make them afraid so they'll respond to your wishes. It's the way of carnality.
The three musketeers :grin:
I work with the elderly, and I see all too often they ask for death to come and end their suffering frequently. They are old, their bodies have failed, their minds have lost the ability to retain anything anymore, there's lots of confusion and fear going on within them, and they are asking to die. I will agree that some of them do fear death, but it's more a fear of the unknown. However I have seen that when the time comes for them to be called, they are more than willing to answer.
Younger people will fear death because they feel that they have so much more to experience in life, so they may feel that they're going to be loosing out.
Quote from: micah7:9 on September 01, 2011, 10:10:36 AM
Why are men afraid of death?
Why do we who claim to love the Lord and all that He says is true, why do we fight the unexpected end called death?
Why is death a feared step in our walk?
Is death the end?
Does death mean its over when a soul quits breathing?
Hi Micah,
I don't fear death, just wonder about it because no one can really tell you what its all about. I have often wondered why Lazarus didn't talk more about his experience with death? Maybe because there isn't ANYTHING to report? In death there is NOTHING going on and the dead do not know they are dead. No time, pain, or anything to be remembered.
I know death is not the end but it is the end of this life as we know it now. I await for a better life and body without all the pain, suffering and heartache.
I guess you could say, "I am not afraid of dying, it's the thought of being dead".
CHB
Quote from: CHB on September 09, 2011, 06:44:15 PM
Quote from: micah7:9 on September 01, 2011, 10:10:36 AM
Why are men afraid of death?
Why do we who claim to love the Lord and all that He says is true, why do we fight the unexpected end called death?
Why is death a feared step in our walk?
Is death the end?
Does death mean its over when a soul quits breathing?
Hi Micah,
I don't fear death, just wonder about it because no one can really tell you what its all about. I have often wondered why Lazarus didn't talk more about his experience with death? Maybe because there isn't ANYTHING to report? In death there is NOTHING going on and the dead do not know they are dead. No time, pain, or anything to be remembered.
I know death is not the end but it is the end of this life as we know it now. I await for a better life and body without all the pain, suffering and heartache.
I guess you could say, "I am not afraid of dying, it's the thought of being dead".
CHB
That about sums it up for me as well. Thanks :bigGrin:
Interestingly enough, Revelation tells us that in the last days men will seek death and not find it.
That's the opposite of men fearing death. Do the death-seekers consider death to be oblivion?
But, what if its not?
And in those days shall men seek death, and shall not find it; and shall desire to die, and death shall flee from them.
--Rev 9:6
I guess after re reading my OP, my real question in my thought was, as a called believer in Jesus Christ and believing that when you expire you are told you are going to a better place.( I don't want to get into any discussion on this outside of what the Christian religion teaches.)
What I mean why do believers have this great sense to hold on to this life considering one is going to a better place? :HeartThrob:
For me, the answer doesn't really change. Christian or not, I think God placed in all of us an instinct to embrace life. It "could" be because if he didn't, knowing how carnality works . . .we'd commit suicide at the first sign of trouble.
I think that's exactly part of it Nathan - our "natural", survival instinct.
OTOH, as a believer especially, we do have better to look forward to. Paul made multiple statements about being absent in body is to be present with Christ, for him to live is Christ, to die is gain, etc. There is also encouragement to set our minds on "things above", and not to be "encumbered with the things of this world".
So for me, there's a balance - live a joyful, thankful, surrendered life here, for whatever time God gives us. But to look forward to the time when this fleshly veil is rent, and our mortality takes on immortality - to not be so wrapped in the day-to-day cares of this life (money, housing, food, jobs, etc.) that our focus is off the heavenly/spiritual. Then we not only live well here, in God's will, we're ready to pass to the other side.
I think my dad did it the right way. He was a very strong believer. He enjoyed life, gave God the credit and thanks for all the blessings, but still very much considered, in the words of the old hymn, "this world is not my home, I'm only passing through. My treasures are laid up somewhere beyond the blue..." When his old earthly body betrayed him and there was no natural hope for recovery, he stopped taking the medications that were propping up his old flesh. After some time at home, he went into hospice. He saw things there before he passed that were beyond our comprehension. He asked once, "into the air", "am I supposed to speak English"? (he spoke no other language). He kept looking "into the distance" and described beautiful colors he was seeing, stating something like "there's thousands of them". Once he said "we're out into glory!" After 2 weeks in hospice, he peacefully went to sleep in Jesus.
I probably would have been sitting next to him with a notebook in my lap and nudging him whenever he drifted off to see if he'd say anything more . . .that sounds so inviting!!
"I think God placed in all of us an instinct to embrace life."
Okay, from what I have read from Genesis to Revelation, death has been the prominent voice from Gen. 2:17 to Rev. 1:18
and that we have to die to live. I suggest that "that instinct" you speak of is the carnal thinking of man.
What do you think of
Joh 12:25 he who is loving his life shall lose it, and he who is hating his life in this world--to life age-during shall keep it;
Just what is so important about this life, should we not be using it to be a witness, then what's its worth?
I know of the human emotion but yet is that not also carnal? When we die we are remember for awhile and then forgotten for awhile, then remembered. Yes there is a sadness for those left behind. :HeartThrob:
Quote from: jabcat on September 09, 2011, 10:14:40 PMI think that's exactly part of it Nathan - our "natural", survival instinct.
Without that instinct most people won't even live to the age of 10. Fear of death and pain stops you from doing things that harms the body.
There is a very rare illness that makes people totally immume to pain. I've read a story of a mother with such a child. It's a real horror. The child puts a hot iron of his arm just because it smells funny. Jumps off a table and lands on the knees because it makes funny noise. That child was five and spend more time in hospitakl with burn wound, cuts and broken bones than a dozen adults combined. Pain is a bad thing to have. But needless to say a whole world like that kid simply won't survive. Even pain/fear has a positive function.
Besides of that many people don't want to die because the enjoy life. Not because they fear death. They want to continue the life they like.
Quote from: WhiteWings on September 09, 2011, 10:48:29 PM
Quote from: jabcat on September 09, 2011, 10:14:40 PMI think that's exactly part of it Nathan - our "natural", survival instinct.
Without that instinct most people won't even live to the age of 10. Fear of death and pain stops you from doing things that harms the body.
There is a very rare illness that makes people totally immume to pain. I've read a story of a mother with such a child. It's a real horror. The child puts a hot iron of his arm just because it smells funny. Jumps off a table and lands on the knees because it makes funny noise. That child was five and spend more time in hospitakl with burn wound, cuts and broken bones than a dozen adults combined. Pain is a bad thing to have. But needless to say a whole world like that kid simply won't survive. Even pain/fear has a positive function.
Besides of that many people don't want to die because the enjoy life. Not because they fear death. They want to continue the life they like.
:thumbsup:
Yes, agreed.
I also agree many of us focus on and hang onto "worldly" things to the point of losing sight of the real things - spiritual - so we don't have the longing, the spiritual confidence that comes from walking in close relationship with Father, daily savoring His grace and love - i.e., living in the kingdom. For me personally, the opposite side of being in the kingdom has been fear, insecurity, and unfulfillment.
Also along the lines of fear, even for some believers I believe there can be fear of the unknown, fear of "am I really secure in what I believe, what if I am actually in for some hard times?". I know for a fact there are people walking around who believe, but still have a whole lot of "Lord, help my unbelief". They may not feel as secure or ready to cross over as others. Again, I take my sister for example. I believe she is a child of God, saved by grace. She has called on Him for salvation and forgiveness, has "tried to live a Christian life", but because of her own weaknesses, her upbringing, her mental illness issue, just feels unworthy/unable to be saved, forgiven, secure in God's love and grace. I'd imagine, as miserable as her life is sometimes, that she'd hang onto it pretty hard, due to fear and not really knowing what's "over there" waiting for her. :(
Quote from: Nathan on September 09, 2011, 10:31:22 PM
I probably would have been sitting next to him with a notebook in my lap and nudging him whenever he drifted off to see if he'd say anything more . . .that sounds so inviting!!
You don't know how many times I've kicked myself for not asking him more questions, really digging into what he was experiencing. I've felt that was a very rare opportunity lost. :(
Quote from: jabcat on September 10, 2011, 12:34:50 AM
Yes, agreed.
I also agree many of us focus on and hang onto "worldly" things to the point of losing sight of the real things - spiritual - so we don't have the longing, the spiritual confidence that comes from walking in close relationship with Father, daily savoring His grace and love - i.e., living in the kingdom. For me personally, the opposite side of being in the kingdom has been fear, insecurity, and unfulfillment.
Also along the lines of fear, even for some believers I believe there can be fear of the unknown, fear of "am I really secure in what I believe, what if I am actually in for some hard times?". I know for a fact there are people walking around who believe, but still have a whole lot of "Lord, help my unbelief". They may not feel as secure or ready to cross over as others. Again, I take my sister for example. I believe she is a child of God, saved by grace. She has called on Him for salvation and forgiveness, has "tried to live a Christian life", but because of her own weaknesses, her upbringing, her mental illness issue, just feels unworthy/unable to be saved, forgiven, secure in God's love and grace. I'd imagine, as miserable as her life is sometimes, that she'd hang onto it pretty hard, due to fear and not really knowing what's "over there" waiting for her. :(
Hey my Friend and brother take comfort in this snippet from Rodger Tutt. I sent it to everyone I know whether they believe or not. I'm 66 and my dad was 49 when alcohol took him, I have been so much more at ease knowing that the God of his religion(Lutheran) was a lie and that Only True Father God loves ALL His creation. I never got a chance to tell my dad that I was sorry for all my youthful stupidities. That has been a great and heavy burden I've carried, it rears up sometimes...I pray it away. Harold Robbins who wrote "A Stone For Danny Fischer" open his book with these words, " To live in hearts we leave behind is not to die." A very interesting thought. :bigGrin: Dave and is so good to be LOVED by The Father even when I'm bad. :dsunny:
Snippet: THE PROBLEM OF EVIL – JOHN H. ESSEX
"All creation remains within the care and keeping of its Creator.
The vessels which become marred never leave the hand of the Potter; they are marred while still in His hand. The lesson that was taught Jeremiah (Jer. 18:4), though to be interpreted as relating to Israel, nevertheless embodies a principle which is sustained throughout the whole outworking of God's purpose. He holds all in the hollow of His hand, and though He may allow, and even cause, some of His creatures to temporarily turn away from Him, He never lets them go. That is why Paul can write in Romans 8:20, 'For to vanity was the creation subjected, not voluntarily, but because of Him Who subjects it, in expectation that the creation itself , also, shall be freed from the slavery of corruption into the glorious freedom of the children of God."
:thumbsup: Amen.
Quote from: WhiteWings on September 09, 2011, 10:48:29 PM
Quote from: jabcat on September 09, 2011, 10:14:40 PMI think that's exactly part of it Nathan - our "natural", survival instinct.
Without that instinct most people won't even live to the age of 10. Fear of death and pain stops you from doing things that harms the body.
There is a very rare illness that makes people totally immume to pain. I've read a story of a mother with such a child. It's a real horror. The child puts a hot iron of his arm just because it smells funny. Jumps off a table and lands on the knees because it makes funny noise. That child was five and spend more time in hospitakl with burn wound, cuts and broken bones than a dozen adults combined. Pain is a bad thing to have. But needless to say a whole world like that kid simply won't survive. Even pain/fear has a positive function.
Besides of that many people don't want to die because the enjoy life. Not because they fear death. They want to continue the life they like.
I did not read what Nathan said yet, but your statement is correct. I watched a program where a young girl was immune to pain, she would jump around and do crazy stunts all the time and often broke her bones. The parents had to keep a eye on her at all times.
I fear death for several reasons. One is that I don't want my children to grow up without a dad. I also don't want to leave my wife or experience any pain associated with death.
Also, if I look real hard and I'm really honest, I fear God's judgment. And as much as I believe my sins have been bought and paid for by Jesus Christ's sacrifice on the Cross...I have a side of myself that fears God handing out justice rather than grace to me. I fear disappointing God, and feeling His disappointment up close and personal.
So while I have some spiritual insights, there is a part of me that just doesn't get it. There are still walls in my spirit that keep me from freedom and fully embracing God's love and grace. And in the end, I think that is why I personally fear death more than anything else.
Quote from: shawn on September 12, 2011, 11:35:29 PM
I fear death for several reasons. One is that I don't want my children to grow up without a dad. I also don't want to leave my wife or experience any pain associated with death.
Also, if I look real hard and I'm really honest, I fear God's judgment. And as much as I believe my sins have been bought and paid for by Jesus Christ's sacrifice on the Cross...I have a side of myself that fears God handing out justice rather than grace to me. I fear disappointing God, and feeling His disappointment up close and personal.
So while I have some spiritual insights, there is a part of me that just doesn't get it. There are still walls in my spirit that keep me from freedom and fully embracing God's love and grace. And in the end, I think that is why I personally fear death more than anything else.
Have you been reading my personal notes?
The only thing I fear about death is leaving my daughter and wife behind and them having to hurt. My aunt died right before christmas last year, I was a little jealous of her. Don't worry I'm not suicidal, I just am tired of this world (and I'm only 33). If my whole family were on a plane together and it went down, I would be happy, I just wouldn't want to leave anyone behind to mourn.
Quote from: jabcat on September 13, 2011, 12:10:45 AM
Quote from: shawn on September 12, 2011, 11:35:29 PM
I fear death for several reasons. One is that I don't want my children to grow up without a dad. I also don't want to leave my wife or experience any pain associated with death.
Also, if I look real hard and I'm really honest, I fear God's judgment. And as much as I believe my sins have been bought and paid for by Jesus Christ's sacrifice on the Cross...I have a side of myself that fears God handing out justice rather than grace to me. I fear disappointing God, and feeling His disappointment up close and personal.
So while I have some spiritual insights, there is a part of me that just doesn't get it. There are still walls in my spirit that keep me from freedom and fully embracing God's love and grace. And in the end, I think that is why I personally fear death more than anything else.
Have you been reading my personal notes?
To me, I think much of it has to do with personality, how we're raised and influenced as to how we think and view things. Like Shawn said, I have different parts of me that see it different ways; one part can think it through and see all the reasons it's good, the other can think it through and see "reasons" to be fearful.
Your eyes will see strange things, and your mind will imagine confusing things. Proverbs 22:33
It's why we need to keep our focus on Him, His grace, His abilities, love, His promises, etc... renewing our minds in Him. I know first-hand it's more of a challenge for some than for others.
Quote from: jabcat on September 13, 2011, 12:10:45 AM
Quote from: shawn on September 12, 2011, 11:35:29 PM
I fear death for several reasons. One is that I don't want my children to grow up without a dad. I also don't want to leave my wife or experience any pain associated with death.
Also, if I look real hard and I'm really honest, I fear God's judgment. And as much as I believe my sins have been bought and paid for by Jesus Christ's sacrifice on the Cross...I have a side of myself that fears God handing out justice rather than grace to me. I fear disappointing God, and feeling His disappointment up close and personal.
So while I have some spiritual insights, there is a part of me that just doesn't get it. There are still walls in my spirit that keep me from freedom and fully embracing God's love and grace. And in the end, I think that is why I personally fear death more than anything else.
Have you been reading my personal notes?
Who can stand before Him?
what manner of man is this?
Deuteronomy 4:10
Specially the day that thou stoodest before the LORD thy God in Horeb, when the LORD said unto me, Gather me the people together, and I will make them hear my words, that they may learn to fear me all the days that they shall live upon the earth, and that they may teach their children.
Let all the ends of the Earth fear his name, may the enemy fear Him, cleanse the Earth of all unrighteousness.
17And he shall go before him in the spirit and power of Elias, to turn the hearts of the fathers to the children, and the disobedient to the wisdom of the just; to make ready a people prepared for the Lord.
Quote from: redhotmagma on September 13, 2011, 12:14:26 AM
The only thing I fear about death is leaving my daughter and wife behind and them having to hurt. My aunt died right before christmas last year, I was a little jealous of her. Don't worry I'm not suicidal, I just am tired of this world (and I'm only 33). If my whole family were on a plane together and it went down, I would be happy, I just wouldn't want to leave anyone behind to mourn.
Wonderfully said. I think your reason is probably the real reason, I to fear more of the pain and hurt of a loved one that's left with the memories. I have a grandson who is 6 and when my passing comes its the hurt he will feel that troubles me the most. :HeartThrob:
Quote from: jabcat on September 13, 2011, 12:17:39 AM
Quote from: jabcat on September 13, 2011, 12:10:45 AM
Quote from: shawn on September 12, 2011, 11:35:29 PM
I fear death for several reasons. One is that I don't want my children to grow up without a dad. I also don't want to leave my wife or experience any pain associated with death.
Also, if I look real hard and I'm really honest, I fear God's judgment. And as much as I believe my sins have been bought and paid for by Jesus Christ's sacrifice on the Cross...I have a side of myself that fears God handing out justice rather than grace to me. I fear disappointing God, and feeling His disappointment up close and personal.
So while I have some spiritual insights, there is a part of me that just doesn't get it. There are still walls in my spirit that keep me from freedom and fully embracing God's love and grace. And in the end, I think that is why I personally fear death more than anything else.
Have you been reading my personal notes?
To me, I think much of it has to do with personality, how we're raised and influenced as to how we think and view things. Like Shawn said, I have different parts of me that see it different ways; one part can think it through and see all the reasons it's good, the other can think it through and see "reasons" to be fearful.
Your eyes will see strange things, and your mind will imagine confusing things. Proverbs 22:33
It's why we need to keep our focus on Him, His grace, His abilities, love, His promises, etc... renewing our minds in Him. I know first-hand it's more of a challenge for some than for others.
I agree...it's very tough getting those early childhood thoughts out of our heads.
Quote from: micah7:9 on September 01, 2011, 10:10:36 AM
Why are men afraid of death?
Why do we who claim to love the Lord and all that He says is true, why do we fight the unexpected end called death?
Why is death a feared step in our walk?
Is death the end?
Does death mean its over when a soul quits breathing?
In my opinion.... People are scared of death because they don't know what's on the other side. Death isn't the end. It's a start of something great. I'm not scared of death myself.
Having looked "it" in the eye several times in my life, I don't fear it, and neither did I fear it before I knew the Lord. I asked Him specifically once, how the scripture "man is in bondage to the fear of death all of his days" applied to me, since I knew I wasn't.
The answer is: man is in bondage to the fear of DYING TO SELF all of his days (and I definitely was that). And we are told that man is appointed ONCE to die, and then the judgment. So it seems to me that if you die to self, that counts as ONCE.
So I maintain that if those that are called to overcome the last ENEMY, view it as anything less than what it is, ie. an enemy, then that is making a covenant with death. And since we know that our enemies are not flesh and blood, but principalities and powers of the air, ie. SPIRITS, then why would we want to allow another spirit to rule over us, literally, to death?
He wouldn't even let me take out life insurance, because He quickened to me it was making a covenant with death. And I know of one other person, He gave the same thing to. Going into the "promised land" means going in ALIVE, the ones that didn't make it in because of unbelief, DIED.
Further, He told the Israelites, that if they would obey His statutes and His commandments, He would put none of the curses of the Egyptians on them. Death of the firstborn = first born of the FLESH, then born of the Spirit. Death is a CURSE. Jesus came to reverse all the curses, including death, and I have to believe that if mortality is swallowed up of immortality, then some are not going to put off these garments but rather are to be METAMORPHOOED. The giants, they be bread for us. I'm encouraging myself in the Lord here. My two cents......blessings....
Quote from: happycheeks on June 23, 2012, 09:12:40 PM
Quote from: micah7:9 on September 01, 2011, 10:10:36 AM
Why are men afraid of death?
Why do we who claim to love the Lord and all that He says is true, why do we fight the unexpected end called death?
Why is death a feared step in our walk?
Is death the end?
Does death mean its over when a soul quits breathing?
In my opinion.... People are scared of death because they don't know what's on the other side. Death isn't the end. It's a start of something great. I'm not scared of death myself.
There certainly is an "unknown" factor HC, I agree. Personally, I think it's better than most of us have been taught to fear.
There are varying views/interpretations on it. In the following scriptures, I personally see a main thread running - hope and trust, confidence that God is good and watches over His own. That's the blessed hope, that through knowing Him we will stand in His presence ready, covered by His blood - therefor counted as righteous. It's the blessed work of the cross in our lives, His grace applied, that nothing can separate us from Him; and though we walk through the valley of the shadow of death, we don't have to fear..He is with us.
But if I live, I can do more fruitful work for Christ. So I really don't know which is better. I'm torn between two desires:
I long to go and be with Christ, which would be far better for me. Philippians 1:22-23
So we are always of good courage. We know that
while we are at home in the body we are away from the Lord, for we walk by faith, not by sight. Yes, we are of good courage, and
we would rather be away from the body and at home with the Lord. 2 Corinthians 5:6-8 [
death is no longer the enemy of the believer, the spiritually reborn. His death and resurrection, and His grace applied to our lives, gives us the victory! It's to be in His presence! The Apostle Paul longed for it.]
Martha said to him, "I know that he will rise again in the resurrection on the last day." Jesus said to her, "I am the resurrection and the life.
Whoever believes in me, though he die, yet shall he live, and everyone who lives and believes in me
shall never die. [our spirit will return to Him and live on] Do you believe this?" John 11
he has caused us to be born again to a
living hope through the resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead, to an inheritance that is imperishable, undefiled, and unfading, kept in heaven for you, who by God's power are being guarded through faith for a salvation ready to be revealed in the last time. I peter 1:4,5
we know that
when he appears we shall be like him, because we shall see him as he is. I John 3:1,2
Even though I
walk through the valley of the shadow of death, I will fear no evil, for you are close beside me. Your rod and your staff protect and comfort me. Psalm 23:4 [He is with us, no matter what - whether we live or die, all is well]
Precious in the sight of the LORD is the death of his saints. Psalm 116:15 [we'll be home with Him, our good loving Father]
For I am sure that neither
death nor life, nor angels nor rulers, nor things present nor things to come, nor powers, nor height nor depth,
nor anything else in all creation, will be able to separate us from the love of God in Christ Jesus our Lord. Romans 8:38-39
For if we live, we live to the Lord, and if we die, we die to the Lord. So then,
whether we live or whether we die, we are the Lord's. Romans 14:8
Revelation 14:13 And I heard a voice from heaven saying, "Write this:
Blessed are the dead who die in the Lord from now on." "Blessed indeed," says the Spirit, "that they may rest from their labors, for their deeds follow them!"
Blessings and comfort.
the Lord himself will come down from heaven, with a loud command, with the voice of the archangel and with the trumpet call of God, and the dead in Christ will rise first. Those that are alive and remain will rise to meet him in the clouds. Then we will be with the Lord forever. Comfort one another with these words. I Thes. 4:16-18 Amen.
For me it is not fearing death, it is my fear of pain. As for leaving others behind, yes, I do not like the idea of people mourning over my death, but if they understand death the way we ought to, which I view as truly being born again, we should have nothing to fear.
I do not believe it to be a coincidence that my 22 year old son brought up something tonight, he would have no problem with my death, sure he would miss me, but he also said he would envy me because I would have my questions answered and he would have to wait, and this comes from him knowing what and why I believe what I do and it makes perfect sense to him when I explain things to him.
I believe he will be a part of the next generation of UR believers and that he will come to more of an understanding than I ever could and that is because I believe the closer we get to the end of this tunnel we call life, the more light that God reveals.
amen
I love and appreciate the honesty in these posts. Jab, i can relate to your sister, and Shawn seems to have climbed into my head. Micah, thanks for throwing the life preserver in your quote from Essex. Is that a book or article. I need to read it.
Quote from: Deena on July 23, 2012, 05:14:31 PM
Micah, thanks for throwing the life preserver in your quote from Essex. Is that a book or article. I need to read it.
http://www.tentmaker.org/articles/TheProblemofEvil.html
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If death is such a feared thing, then who do some people commit suicide, and thus knowingly and deliberately bring on the very effects most people are scared of?
Quote from: ChuckK3 on August 18, 2012, 11:21:22 AM
If death is such a feared thing, then who do some people commit suicide, and thus knowingly and deliberately bring on the very effects most people are scared of?
That's because life is even more scary... :-)
I believe Hamlet addressed this... to sleep, perchance to dream. Aye, there's the rub. He was more afraid of what follows after death, the great unknown.
IMO, the fear of death comes from the lack of understanding it. This is what God is doing in all of us, saving us from our own ignorance of not completely understanding death.
For me, if I do not completely understand death by God's definition, how can I even begin to comprehend how He defines life.
Jugg, you have an interesting point. I read so many theories on what death is that I am not clear. If the dead know nothing, then what and where are we when we know nothing? Is it just the big sleep till Jesus comes? And what will this life mean from the rear view mirror? I often wonder what from this life will be taken to the next? Whatever it is it seems like that is really all that matters, but I don't know what that is exactly.
I never wanted to be here anyway...
I thing I know what you mean LS. I feel the same way much of the time, but we are here, so now what?
Quote from: Deena on August 20, 2012, 09:03:58 AM
Jugg, you have an interesting point. I read so many theories on what death is that I am not clear. If the dead know nothing, then what and where are we when we know nothing? Is it just the big sleep till Jesus comes? And what will this life mean from the rear view mirror? I often wonder what from this life will be taken to the next? Whatever it is it seems like that is really all that matters, but I don't know what that is exactly.
Love!!! :thumbsup:
Quote from: Deena on August 22, 2012, 07:58:45 PM
I thing I know what you mean LS. I feel the same way much of the time, but we are here, so now what?
We hang on to the end, for the end is followed by the Beginning...