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Discussions Relating to Universal Reconciliation => Judgement and Punishment => Topic started by: josh on May 17, 2014, 10:33:45 AM

Title: sortin out larkin stuff on 5 separate judgements and 3 different thrones
Post by: josh on May 17, 2014, 10:33:45 AM
clarence larkin stuff on such as on e-sword free download...
assuming it is no longer copyrighted..

last copyright 1920 i think...

ah but i cant copy and paste as it is from  e-sword charts

but  i think this will paste
SOME OF MY COMMENTS IN THE TEXT IN CAPS

TEXT FROM LARKINS AS FOLLOWS
NOT AS IN THE TEXT BUT EXCERPTED FROM LARKINS TEXT
OH HERE IS A LINK TO THE TEXT FIRST
www.preservedwords.com/disptruth/chap17-pv.htm

ON SECOND THOUGHT I MIGHT GIVE FURTHER THOUGHT BEFORE COMMENTING
WITH MY THOUGHTS ON HOW THE 5 JUDGMENTS MIGHT VARY FROM LARKINS

The common opinion that the Millennium is to be ushered in by the preaching of the Gospel, and that after the Millennium there is to be a "General Resurrection" followed by a "General judgment, " and then the earth is to be destroyed by fire is not scriptural.

There can be no "General" judgment because the Scriptures speak of one judgment as being in the "Air" (1Thes. 4:16, 1Thes. 4:17; 2Cor. 5:6-8) ; another on the "Earth" (Matt. 25:31-33) ; and a third in "Heaven, " the earth and its atmosphere having fled away. Rev. 20:11-13. And to-make sure that these three separate judgments should not be combined into one General judgment scene, three different Thrones are mentioned.

1. The "Judgment Seat of Christ." 2 Cor. 5:10. "In the Air." For "Believers" only.
2. The "Throne of Glory." Matt. 25:31, Matt. 25:32. "On the Earth." For "The Nations."
3.The "Great White Throne." Rev. 20:11, 12. "In Heaven." For the "Wicked Dead."

The Scriptures speak of

Five Separate judgments.

Judgment No. 1.

1. Subjects-Believers as to "SIN."
2. Time-A.D. 30.
3.Place-Calvary.
4.Basis of judgment. Christ's "FINISHED WORK."
5. Result-
1. Death as to Christ.
2. Justification as to the Believer.

Judgment No. 2.

1. Subjects-Believers as to "WORKS."
2. Time-After The Church is caught out
3. Place-"Judgment Seat of Christ" (in the Air).
4. Basis of Judgment-Their "WORKS."
5. Result-Reward or Loss.

This judgment is FUTURE.

Judgment No. 3.

1. Subjects-The JEWS.
2. Time-"The Great Tribulation."
3. Place-Jerusalem and Vicinity.
4. Basis of Judgment-Rejection of the Godhead.
5. Result-Their Conversion and Reception of Christ as TheirMessiah.

This judgment is FUTURE.

Judgment No. 4.

1. Subjects-The Nations (Gentiles).
2. Time-The "Revelation of Christ."
3. Place-The "Throne of His Glory." On the Earth-"Valley of Jehoshaphat."
4. Basis of judgment-Their Treatment of Christ's Brethren-The Jews.
5. Result-Some Nations "SAVED, " Others "DESTROYED."

This judgment is FUTURE.

Judgment No. 5.

1. Subjects-The Wicked Dead.
2. Time-During the Renovation of the Earth by Fire.
3. Place-Before "The Great White Throne."
4. Basis of judgment-Their "Works."
5. Result-Cast Into the "Lake of Fire."

This judgment is FUTURE.

so now what does tentmaker make of such...
and too as i sort thru it my speculations on the matter

now as to what i make of the great white throne judgment
Rev 20:15  And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire.

whosoever is not any individual human soul but whatever aspect of its repudiated past ways and attitudes and deeds are now destroyed in the lake of fire ..thus fully purging the soul
of its false ego attachments that prevented it from attaining its eternal glorified soul body..

to come to this point of purging out such false ego attachments
requires tho i think reincarnations of the soul
at the minimum some say 30
as that is the number of incarnations of jesus
Title: Re: sortin out larkin stuff on 5 separate judgements and 3 different thrones
Post by: josh on May 18, 2014, 08:16:40 AM
now some specs on

Judgment No. 3.

1. Subjects-The JEWS.
2. Time-"The Great Tribulation."
3. Place-Jerusalem and Vicinity.
4. Basis of Judgment-Rejection of the Godhead.
5. Result-Their Conversion and Reception of Christ as TheirMessiah.

This judgment is FUTURE.

----------larkin..mentioned in initial post
puts these 2 after the rapture and meeing jesus in the air...

my specsUALATION THAT NUMBER 2 AS THE RENEWAL OF THE MIND FOR INIDIVIDUAL BELIEVERS  AND THE CHURCH AS A WHOLE ..BUT  there will be individual believers first tho probably not that many ...yet anyways...
that the judgment of the jews then the gentiles
is first bringing to mind for purging the specific past conscious evil choices of the soul ..this then is following by examing the consequences of disruptions and sins that followed more subconsciously whre tho it was first the conscious choices that had perverted and became hid in the records of the heart or subconscious mind that brought upon more sins but in ways that the soul could not understand anymore their dynamics...so to recap first the sinful conscious choices need to be examined in the renewing of the mind ..then the sins and evil that happened more on a subconscious level due to the corruption first started by conscious choices..BEAR IN MIND THESE ARE MOSTLY ASPECTS OF PAST LIFETIMES...




Judgment No. 4.

1. Subjects-The Nations (Gentiles).
2. Time-The "Revelation of Christ."
3. Place-The "Throne of His Glory." On the Earth-"Valley of Jehoshaphat."
4. Basis of judgment-Their Treatment of Christ's Brethren-The Jews.
5. Result-Some Nations "SAVED, " Others "DESTROYED."