Saved from wrath Romans 5:9

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Deena

Can someone please explain this verse? What are we saved from?

rosered

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Quote from: Deena on May 09, 2018, 04:56:12 PM
Can someone please explain this verse? What are we saved from?

  For me ,  death , saved from death . to Life in Christ .   the wages of sin is death . no longer slaves to sin  , no longer enemies  rule over you but Christ is .
  Death has many meanings besides  a literal death  & futility , in my opinion ,Deena


  Hope this  helps   you some as it has for me

9 Therefore, since we are now justified ([f]acquitted, made righteous, and brought into right relationship with God) by Christ's blood, how much more [certain is it that] we shall be saved by Him from the indignation and wrath of God.

10 For if while we were enemies we were reconciled to God through the death of His Son, it is much more [certain], now that we are reconciled, that we shall be saved (daily delivered from sin's dominion) through His [[g]resurrection] life.

11 Not only so, but we also rejoice and exultingly glory in God [in His love and perfection] through our Lord Jesus Christ, through Whom we have now received and enjoy [our] reconciliation.
Jesus is the reward  !!

GodIsLove

Wrath:
orgḗ (from orgáō, "to teem, swelling up to constitutionally oppose") – properly, settled anger (opposition), i.e. rising up from an ongoing (fixed) opposition.

3709 /orgḗ ("settled anger") proceeds from an internal disposition which steadfastly opposes someone or something based on extended personal exposure, i.e. solidifying what the beholder considers wrong (unjust, evil).

["Orgē comes from the verb oragō meaning, 'to teem, to swell'; and thus implies that it is not a sudden outburst, but rather (referring to God's) fixed, controlled, passionate feeling against sin . . . a settled indignation (so Hendriksen)"

To me wrath does not seem to mean anger, but instead the Greek shows opposition as the main root of the word—so we are saved from being in opposition of God because we are now walking with Him and His will.

rosered




  Amen  GIL ,
  No longer children of wrath

   Eph 2 Alive with Christ

1As for you, you were dead in your trespasses and sins,

2in which you used to walk when you conformed to the ways of this world and of the ruler of the power of the air, the spirit who is now at work in the sons of disobedience.

3We all lived among them at one time in the cravings of our flesh, indulging its desires and thoughts. Like the rest, we were by nature children of wrath.

4But because of His great love for us, God, who is rich in mercy,


5made us alive with Christ, even when we were dead in our trespasses.

It is by grace you have been saved!


6And God raised us up with Christ and seated us with Him in the heavenly realms in Christ Jesus,


7in order that in the coming ages He might display the surpassing riches of His grace,


demonstrated by His kindness to us in Christ Jesus.

8For it is by grace you have been saved through faith,

and this not from yourselves; it is the gift of God,


9not by works, so that no one can boast.


10For we are God's workmanship, created in Christ Jesus to do good works,

which God prepared in advance as our way of life.   
Jesus is the reward  !!

marie glen

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Amen sisters!

Quote from: Deena on May 09, 2018, 04:56:12 PM
Can someone please explain this verse? What are we saved from?

I also think of God's 'wrath' - especially as concerning Bible prophecy and 'last' days events - as the results and consequences of man's own doings..

The verse "the wages of sin is death" could also read "the result of sin" (Greek - "missing the mark") "is death" - Because I think of God as life itself, and also as perfection, to me, this makes imperfection/missing the mark, to be the opposite (opposition) of Perfection/God/Life.. hence opposite of life..

The big thing being (to me) that the result or wages is death, not Et (never ending torment) - "The soul that sins shall die" Ezekiel 18:20.

    :Peace2: God bless! That is an excellent question, to point out one of the many fallacies of believing the (cruel) Et gospel/glad tidings/good news! (p.s. "glad tidings to all")  :Chinscratch: seems to be an oxymoron, Et as good news/glad tidings to all.. or that is the Et 'good news' is in opposition to the real "good news"/"glad tidings to all"

Luke 2:10 - And the angel said unto them, Fear not: for, behold, I bring you good tidings of great joy, which shall be to all people. - "all" - pas: G3956 - all, every, the whole - http://biblehub.com/interlinear/luke/2-10.htm -- http://biblehub.com/greek/3956.htm
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Deena


jugghead

What I also see along with what others said,

according to strong's in E-Sword..... G3709 properly desire (as a reaching forth or an excitement of the mind)

taken from G3713 ..... to stretch oneself, that is reach out after (long for); covet after, desire

So, according to these definitions, I also see it as a saving from "the desires of the world", which along with what GIL said is; "in opposition to the desires of God".

my  :2c:
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