Maybe this requires a new thread .
Who are the large cloud of witnesses to they have any part in the after life
the Glory cloud is the Glory of the Father and all His heavenly host...this is the cloud that we see Jesus coming on. He said He would
bring all those who had died with Him........ It is the same pillar of fire and cloud that accompanied Israel in the wilderness....when
He come into the Holy of Holies...in the tent of meeting,,it appeared as a funnel cloud of white that come down into the tent...
it is the angel/messenger of His presence. It is also known as the shekinah.O'Immanuel! God with us!
when this presence was in the temple in Jerusalem..shortly before it's desolation...a voice was heard of a great multitude..saying
'Let us depart from hence" Since then He has tabernacled with us per a token of His presence..even the Holy spirit...in the holy..
He said...'You will not see me again..until you say...Blessed is He who comes in the name of the Lord.
the Large cloud of wittness's are in the cloud with Him.....and very very soon.....God himself will be in us......it is as written
.........God himself is in the camp of the Holy city..that He loves!!!!! it is as Gog's army gathered around us...all the power of
the enemy/adversary...and fire come down from heaven and consumed all that is as an adversary. Elisha asked that his servants
eyes be opened..as he was afraid of the armies that surrounded of the adversary....Elisha had said 'there are more with us,then
with them" the servants eyes were opened and he say heavenly armies and chariots of fire..
we will meet Him in that Glory cloud...He is in us..as the whole kingdom of heaven shall be in us....He will come suddenly
in His temple...He comes down and parts the heavens..and we meet Him in that cloud...the cloud coming down into the Holy of Holies in
us occurs at the very same time the fire comes down to consume all the adversaries...Like a theif in the night...He takes us back up with
Him!!!!!!
SOS 6;12 Before I realized,my desire set me among the royal chariots of my people.
come back..comeback, O'Shulamite.....why would you see the Shulamite as the dance of two camps?[thy kingdom come/
thy will be done..on earth as it is in heaven]
Psalms 68
I love this question and answer :dsunny:
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...I believe that same glory cloud/shekinah light..was revealed..at Jesus translation...shortly before the consumation/fufilling
of the law/prophets......the very presence of God..and the presenting of his blood...
note..Moses meeting with the Lord on the Mountain..and his face shining like a lamp....surely the presence of God/
spirit of the Lord, lights the candle of every man.
Rev 12;19 the God's temple in heaven was opened,and within His temple was seen the ark of His covenant. And there came
flashes of lightening,rumblings,peals of thunder,an earthquake and a great hailstorm.
Mark 9;7 then a cloud appeared and enveloped them;and a voice come from the cloud;'This is my son,whom I love
listen to him."
:cloud9: You know I never noticed there in that passage of Rev. that all the things listed there except the earthquake are what accompanies a whirlwind (tornado). :Chinscratch:
I think the earthquake is what happens to our earthen body in the presence of the whirlwind/Christ! I've seen Him as the whirlwind and it definitely shook me. Blessings....
whirlwinds...thefour winds held back from hurting the earth[clay vessel/earthquake...how else is the earth to give up her dead?
the gates of hell will not prevail.......hurt not the earth or trees..til the servants of our God are sealed...............
reckon our body as good as dead because of sin...flesh and blood can not inherit...creature subjected to vanity.......
the hour is coming when all shall hear the voice of the Lord and come forth from their graves
yep,me too. Elijah......his name means the Lord my God.
Hebrews 12 is the chapter of the cloud. Every thing about it from verse 1 to the end speaks of the reality on the other side of the veil, and the habitation of God that is being built in the Spirit.
Just as the cloud of glory poured through the temple Solomon built at it's dedication, and the dedication on the day of Pentecost- of a tabernacle of living stones, living epistles written on human hearts- all awaking in the glory of Zion.
And on this mountain He will swallow up the covering which is over all peoples, Even the veil which is stretched over all nations....
When He rolls back the veil of the heavens like a scroll and appears with ten thousands of ten thousands of His holy ones in the universal epiphany of His appearing- every eye will see Him, and the clouds, His first fruits of the New Creation, a kingdom of priests unto God bearing the ministry of reconciliation, the period of the restoration of all things will begin....
Acts 3:19 "Therefore repent and return, so that your sins may be wiped away, in order that times of refreshing may come from the presence of the Lord; 20and that He may send Jesus, the Christ appointed for you, 21whom heaven must receive until the period of restoration of all things about which God spoke by the mouth of His holy prophets from ancient time....
Hebrews 12:22 But you have come to Mount Zion and to the city of the living God, the heavenly Jerusalem, and to myriads of angels, to the general assembly and church of the firstborn who are enrolled in heaven, and to God, the Judge of all, and to the spirits of the righteous made perfect, and to Jesus, the mediator of a new covenant, and to the sprinkled blood, which speaks better than the blood of Abel....
In the heavenly Zion, God is filling up the cup of the glory of Romans 8:18-24, the first fruits that will pour out on the earth at the end of this age, beginning the period of the restoration of all things. They will not learn war anyore, they will beat there swords into plowshears, the lion will lay down with the lamb, and the word of the Lord will cover the earth as the water covers the sea.(as I see it ;o)
This is the heritage of the cloud of witnesses, the inheritance of the seekers of God.
For what is our hope, our joy, or the crown in which we will glory in the presence of our Lord Jesus when he comes? Is it not you? Phil 4:19
Can you hear the heart of the servants of the Lord in this question of Paul's?
It is the testimony of Jesus.
We are His crown of glory, the joy set before Him, the great cloud of witnesses that will accompany Him when He appears, and each of us will glory only in that which we have been blessed to do in opening that veil for another.... edifying a brother or a sister, snatching a brand from the fire, leading a lost soul to Christ, cup of water to a little one of His, a visit to one who is unwell in the spirit of love.... ADDING TO THE CLOUD :cloud9:.
http://tentmaker.org/forum/book-of-revelation/sky-receding-like-a-scroll/msg75484/#msg75484 (http://tentmaker.org/forum/book-of-revelation/sky-receding-like-a-scroll/msg75484/#msg75484)
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Thank you Eaglesway.
To me, the large cloud of witnesses = the Body of Christ.
It is those who believe and give their lives for His will; those who are called to His purpose; the Communion of Saints; the sheep of His flock.
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