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Abel, Enoch, Noah, Jericho's Rahab, Abram aka Abraham, and Isaac (and probably Ruth) were justified in God's view because of their faith in God, despite their not being a descendant of Abraham Isaac and Jacob aka Israel.

Romans 3 (Aramaic Bible in Plain English), biblehub
28 We determine therefore that by faith a man is made righteous and not by the works of The Written Law. 29 Is he The God of the Jews only? Is he not also of the Gentiles? Yes, of the Gentiles also. 30 Because God is One, who declares the circumcision righteous by faith and also the uncircumcision by faith.

James 2 (Aramaic Bible in Plain English), biblehub
24 You see that by works a man is justified and not from faith alone. 25 In this way also, was not Rahab the harlot justified by works when she received the scouts and sent them out by another way? 26 Just as the body without the spirit is dead, so also faith without works is dead.
Hebrews 11:31 (NIV) By faith the prostitute Rahab, because she welcomed the spies, was not killed with those who were disobedient.

Do you agree that Abraham is [v. 11]"the father to all those who believe"?

Romans 4 (Aramaic Bible in Plain English), biblehub
3 For what do the Scriptures say? "Abraham believed God, and it was accounted to him for righteousness." ....
5 But to the one who does not labor, but believes only in The One who justifies sinners, is his faith accounted for righteousness. ....
9 Is this blessing therefore on the circumcision or on the uncircumcision? For we say "His faith was accounted to Abraham for righteousness." 10 How therefore was it accounted to him, in circumcision or in uncircumcision? It was not in circumcision, but in uncircumcision. 11 For he received circumcision as a sign and the seal of the righteousness of his faith, when in uncircumcision, that he would be the father to all those who believe among the uncircumcision, that it would be reckoned to them also for righteousness.
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16 Because of this, he would be justified by faith, which is by grace, and The Promise would be sure to all his seed, not to the one who is of The Written Law only, but also to the one who is of the faith of Abraham, who is the father of us all, 17 According to what is written: "I have appointed you a father to the multitude of the nations", before God, in whom you believed, who gives life to the dead, and he calls those who are not as though they are.
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22 Therefore, it was accounted to him for righteousness. 23 And this was not written for his sake alone that his faith was accounted for righteousness, 24 But also for our sake, for he is going to reckon it to us also, we who believe in The One who raised Our Lord Yeshua The Messiah from the grave, 25 And who was handed over because of our sins; and he arose to justify us.

Hebrews 11 (Aramaic Bible in Plain English), biblehub
4 By faith, Abel offered to God a sacrifice much better than that of Cain, and because of it there is a testimony concerning him that he was righteous, and God testifies concerning his offering; and because of it, although he died, he also speaks.
5 By faith, Enoch was transported away and he did not taste death, neither was he found, because God transported him away; for before he was to transport him, there was this testimony concerning him: "He pleased God."
6 But without faith, no one can please God, for whoever is brought near to God must believe that he exists and that he is the rewarder of those who seek him.
7 By faith, Noah worshiped, when those things which had not been seen were spoken to him, and he made the Ark for the lives of his children in his household, by which he condemned the world, and he became the heir of the righteousness which is in faith.

The Bible doesn't speak about numerous things that exist, including airplanes and bikes.
Is there such a thing as:   a hellish afterlife realm?  a comfortable place called Abraham's bosom?  paradise?  heaven?

Luke 16 (Aramaic Bible in Plain English), biblehub
19 "There was a certain rich man, and he wore fine white linen and purple and everyday he celebrated luxuriously." 20 "And there was a certain poor man whose name was Lazar and he lay at the gate of that rich man, being stricken with abscesses." 21 "And he longed to fill his belly with the fragments that fell from the rich man's table, but also the dogs would come licking his abscesses." 22 "But that poor man died and Angels brought him to The Bosom of Abraham. And the rich man also died and he was buried." 23 "And suffering in Sheol, he lifted up his eyes from afar off and he saw Abraham, and Lazar in his bosom." 24 "And he called in a loud voice and he said, 'My father, Abraham, have pity on me and send Lazar to dip the tip of his finger in water and moisten my tongue for me; behold, I am suffering in this flame.' "

2 Corinthians 12 (Aramaic Bible in Plain English)
2 I knew a man in The Messiah more than fourteen years ago, whether in the body or without the body, I do not know, God himself knows, who was snatched up unto the third Heaven. 3 And I knew this man, if in a body or if without the body, I do not know, God himself knows, 4 Who was snatched up to Paradise and heard words that are unspeakable, because it is not authorized for a man to speak them.

Luke 23:43 (Young's Literal, with a comma moved over a word and 'to-day' de-capitalized)
and Jesus said to him, 'Verily I say to thee to-day, with me thou shalt be in the paradise.'

Revelation 2:7 (NIV) Whoever has ears, let them hear what the Spirit says to the churches. To the one who is victorious, I will give the right to eat from the tree of life, which is in the paradise of God.

Revelation 4:1 (NIV) After this I looked, and there before me was a door standing open in heaven. And the voice I had first heard speaking to me like a trumpet said, "Come up here, and I will show you what must take place after this."

Revelation 11:12 (NIV) Then they heard a loud voice from heaven saying to them, "Come up here." And they went up to heaven in a cloud, while their enemies looked on.

Re: Luke 13, does the "you" in "you shall be cast out" refer to certain descendants of Abraham and Isaac and Jacob?
Who does the "they" in "they shall come from The East and from The West and from The South and from The North" refer to?

Luke 13 (Aramaic Bible in Plain English), biblehub
22 And he traveled in villages and cities as he taught and he went on to Jerusalem. 23 But a man asked him if there are few who have life. 24 But Yeshua said to them, "Strive hard to enter the narrow gate, for I say to you, many shall seek to enter and they shall not be able." 25 "Then the Lord of the house will rise and shall bolt the gate, and you will be standing outside knocking at the gate and you will begin to say, 'Our Lord, Our Lord, open to us.'" And he shall answer and he shall say, 'I say to you, that I do not know you. From where are you?'" 26 "And you shall begin to say, 'We ate and we drank before you and you taught in our streets.'" 27 "And he shall say to you, 'I do not know you and from where you are; depart from me, workers of lies.'" 28 "There will be weeping and gnashing teeth when you will behold Abraham and Isaaq and Jaqob and all The Prophets in the Kingdom of God, but you shall be cast out." 29 "And they shall come from The East and from The West and from The South and from The North and they shall recline in the Kingdom of God." 30 "And behold, there are the last who shall be the first and there are the first who shall be the last."

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At the time God sent Jonah to Nineveh to preach repentence, did God love Nineveh?

Jonah 1 (Young's Literal), biblehub
1 And there is a word of Jehovah unto Jonah son of Amittai, saying:
2 'Rise, go unto Nineveh, the great city, and proclaim against it that their wickedness hath come up before Me.' 
Jonah 3
1 And there is a word of Jehovah unto Jonah a second time, saying,
2 'Rise, go unto Nineveh, the great city, and proclaim unto it the proclamation that I am speaking unto thee;' 3 and Jonah riseth, and he goeth unto Nineveh, according to the word of Jehovah. And Nineveh hath been a great city before God, a journey of three days. ....

Jonah 4
10 And Jehovah saith, 'Thou hast had pity on the gourd, for which thou didst not labour, neither didst thou nourish it, which a son of a night was, and a son of a night perished, 11 and I-- have not I pity on Nineveh, the great city, in which there are more than twelve myriads of human beings, who have not known between their right hand and their left-- and much cattle!'

Matthew 12:41 (Berean Study Bible) The men of Nineveh will stand at the judgment with this generation and condemn it; for they repented at the preaching of Jonah, and now One greater than Jonah is here.

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Jesus is God.  Did Jesus love:  Sodom? Gommorah?  the cities that Jesus' students preached in?

Matthew 10 (Aramaic Bible in Plain English)
1 And he called his twelve disciples and he gave them authority over foul spirits to cast them out, and to heal every ailment and disease.  ....  5 These twelve Yeshua sent and he commanded them and he said, "You shall not go by a road of the heathen and you shall not enter a city of the Samaritans." 6 "But go especially to the sheep that have been lost of the house of Israel." 7 "And as you are going, preach and say "The Kingdom of Heaven has come near." 8 "Heal the sick, purify the lepers and cast out demons; freely you have received, freely give." 9 "You shall not retain gold, neither silver, nor copper in your moneybags," 10 "Neither wallet for the way, nor two coats, neither shoes, nor staff, for a laborer is worthy of his provisions." 11 "Whichever city or village you enter, ask who is worthy in it and stay there until you leave." 12 "And when you enter a household, invoke the peace of the household." 13 "And if that household is worthy, your blessing of peace will come upon it, but if not, your blessing of peace will return unto you." 14 "But whoever does not receive you, neither listens to your words, when you depart from the house or from the village, shake the sand from your feet." 15 "And truly I say to you, it will be tranquil in the day of judgment for the land of Sadom and Ammora compared to that city."

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"To ancient Israelites, Sheol was a temporary place for both the righteous and wicked.... Abraham's bosom was the place in Sheol... for the righteous of Israel"
2,000 years ago, did the conception of Sheol involve any:
torment for the wicked?
comfort for the righteous?

"In a Jewish thought, they would go to a temporary place in death and await the judgement. That judgement happened in AD70"
Do you believe "the judgement.... happened in AD70"?
Is there a difference between "the bosom of Abraham," and the "paradise" that Jesus promised the 'good thief'?

"all of your examples fail to show that people today go to a place called 'heaven' after their last breath"
Do you believe:
there is an afterlife?
Jesus came from heaven?

"Rev 4:1 says nothing about people today going to that 'heaven' after their last breath. John was having a vision. What he was imagining was completely imaginary"
So what was described in Revelation as going to happen shortly was purely John's imagination, and not accurate?

"the redemption story was about those who were dead in trespasses and sins because of the law"
Stalin killed over 20 million people, and starved to death many Ukrainians.
Hitler killed over 12 million people.
Mao Zedong killed many people via starvation and other means.
Do you believe Stalin, Hitler, and Mao didn't sin?

"Stalin and Mao broke the law of their land, not Israel?s law"
Agreed.  Stalin, Hitler, and Mao were atheists who acted like there is no God.  Do you believe Stalin, Hitler, and Mao sinned in killing millions upon millions of people?

If someone steals a car, did he sin in stealing?
If a doctor does an abortion in the U.S. in a state that permits it, did he sin in killing an unwanted gestating preborn human life?

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"the faux Christian world after AD 70 established sunday"
7th Day Adventists insist that Saturday is the day Christians must meet.  'Messianic Jews' also meet on Saturday.
Do you consider 7th Day Adventists and 'Messianic Jews' to be 'real' Christians?

"new testament Christian who were all Israelites"
Was this centurion an Israelite?:

Mark 15:39 (NIV) And when the centurion, who stood there in front of Jesus, saw how he died, he said, "Surely this man was the Son of God!"
Luke 23:46-47 (Aramaic Bible in Plain English), biblehub
And Yeshua called out in a loud voice and he said, "My Father, into your hands I lay down my spirit." He said this and he expired. When the Centurion saw what had happened, he glorified God and he said, "Truly this man was The Righteous One."

"Luke 24.1 Mark 16.2 Mark 16.9 John 20.1 John 20.19 1 Corinthians 16.2 Acts 20.7 were actually sabbath days thenselves in the original language not Sundays"
Reference?  The original language of the NT was Aramaic.
The Sabbath was supposed to be a day of rest after 6 days of working; the Sabbath ran from Friday evening up to Saturday evening.  Where'd you get the idea that for the ancient adherent of Judaism, the _first_ day of the week was a day of rest?

Hebrews 4:4 (Aramaic Bible in Plain English)
According to what he said about the Sabbath:
"God rested on the seventh day from all his works."

Luke 24:1, http://dukhrana .com
(Etheridge, from Aramaic) But on the first (day) in the week, in the morning, while yet dark, they came to the sepulchre, and brought those aromatics which they had prepared; and with them there were other women.
(Murdock, from Aramaic) And on the first day of the week, in the morning, while it was yet dark, they came to the sepulchre, and brought the aromatics they had prepared. And there were other women with them.
(Lamsa, from Aramaic) AND on the first day of the week, early in the morning, while it was yet dark, they came to the tomb, and brought the spices which they had prepared; and there were with them other women.
(KJV, from Greek) Now upon the first day of the week, very early in the morning, they came unto the sepulchre, bringing the spices which they had prepared, and certain others with them.

Luke 24:1, biblehub
(Aramaic Bible in Plain English) But on Sunday morning, while it was dark, they came to the tomb and they brought the spices that they had prepared, and there were other women with them.
(GOD'S WORD Translation) Very early on Sunday morning the women went to the tomb. They were carrying the spices that they had prepared.

Re: Acts 15:1, do you believe "If you are not circumcised in the custom of The Law, you cannot have life"?
Re: verse 3, do you believe Paul and BarNaba recounted "the conversion of the Gentiles"?
Re: verse 3, do you believe "It is necessary... to circumcise them [converted Gentiles] and to command them to keep The Law of Moses"?
Re: verse 8, do you believe that "from the first days God chose the Gentiles to hear the word of The Gospel... and to believe"?
Re: verse 8, do you agree with Simon Peter that "God... testified to them [Gentiles that became converted] and gave them The Spirit of Holiness"?
Re: verse 9, do you think God "purified their [the converted Gentiles'] hearts by faith"?
Re: verse 11, do you think it's possible to "believe in order to receive life"? Or do you think that somebody must in addition have a particular biological ancestry?
Re: verse 9, do you think God wanted that "the rest of the children of men may seek" Master YHWH?

Acts 15 (Aramaic Bible in Plain English), biblehub
1 But men had come down from Judea and were teaching the brethren:
"If you are not circumcised in the custom of The Law, you cannot have life."
2 There was great tumult and debate with them for Paulus and BarNaba, and it happened that Paulus and BarNaba and another with them would go up to the Apostles and the Elders who were in Jerusalem because of this dispute.
3 And the church accompanied and sent them and they were traveling in all Phoenicia and also among the Samaritans, as they were recounting the conversion of the Gentiles, and they were creating great joy to all the brethren. ....
5 But some of the school of The Pharisees who had believed stood up, and they were saying,
"It is necessary for you to circumcise them and to command them to keep The Law of Moses."
6 But the Apostles and the Elders assembled to look into this matter. 7 And as there was a great dispute, Shimeon arose and he said to them,

"Men, brothers, you are aware that from the first days God chose the Gentiles to hear the word of The Gospel from my mouth and to believe." 8 "And God, who knows what is in the hearts, testified to them and gave them The Spirit of Holiness as to us." 9 "And he made no distinction between us and them, because he purified their hearts by faith." 10 "And now, why are you tempting God, so as to put a yoke on the necks of the disciples, which not even our fathers nor we were able to bear?" 11 But by the grace of Our Lord Yeshua The Messiah, we believe in order to receive life, as they do".

12 And all the crowds were silent, and they were listening to Paulus and to BarNaba, who related everything whatever God had done by their hands -- signs and mighty deeds among the Gentiles.
13 And after they had ceased, Yaqob arose and he said,

"Men, brothers, hear me." 14 "Shimeon has related to you how God began to choose from the Gentiles a people for his name." 15 "And the words of The Prophets agree with this, just as that which is written:
16 'After these things I shall return and I shall raise the tabernacle of David, which had fallen.
And I shall build that which had fallen from it and I shall raise it up,
17 So that the rest of the children of men may seek THE LORD JEHOVAH,
and all the nations upon which my name is called,
says THE LORD JEHOVAH, who does all of these things.'

18 Known from eternity are the works of God." 19"Therefore I say, let us not trouble those who are being turned to God from the Gentiles." 20 "But let it be sent to them that they separate from the defilement of sacrifices and from fornication and from what is strangled and from blood." 21 "For from the first ages there have been preachers for Moses who read him on every Sabbath in every town in the synagogues."

22 Then the Apostles and the Elders, with the whole church, chose men from among them and they sent Yehuda, who is called Bar-Shaba, and Shila, to Antiakia with Paulus and BarNaba, men who were Leaders among the brethren." 23 And they wrote an epistle by their hands thus:

"The Apostles and Elders and the brethren, to those who are in Antiakia and in Syria and in Qiliqia, brethren who are of the Gentiles, peace." 24 "We hear that men among us went out and have alarmed you with words and have subverted your souls, as they were saying, 'Be circumcised and keep The Law', which we have not commanded them." 25 "Therefore we counseled when we all assembled and we chose men and sent them to you with our beloved friends, Paulus and BarNaba," 26 "Men who have surrendered themselves for the name of Our Lord Yeshua The Messiah." 27 "And we sent Yehuda with them and Shila, for they shall tell you the same things by speech." 28 "For it was the will of The Spirit of Holiness and also of us that we would not put upon you a burden greater than those things which are necessary:" 29 "Abstain from what is sacrificed, from blood, from what is strangled, and from fornication, for when you keep yourselves from these things, you will be well. Be faithful in Our Lord."

30 But those who were sent came to Antiakia, and they gathered all the people and gave them the letter. 31 And when they read it, they rejoiced and were comforted.

There is a judgement, but it serves a positive purpose.  God loves those he disciplines.  God loves all his children, and all of them will willingly return to God.  God wins. Love wins.

"Every Israelite has sinned"
Sure, all Israelites have sinned.  It appears we also agree that Adam and Cain sinned.  Do you consider Adam and Cain to be Israelites?

Amos 3:2 (NIV) "You only have I chosen of all the families of the earth;
therefore I will punish you for all your sins."

Yes, the Israelites were a chosen people, and benefited greatly from following God.  They also suffered greatly from disobeying God. 
In a fit of idiocy, certain Israelite leaders even cursed themselves and their descendants for the crime of their having an innocent man-- Yeshua the Meshikha-- executed.

"the Bible says all the fathers in the bible belongs to Israel alone"
Including:  Ham?  Moab?  Ben-Ammi?

Genesis 9:18 (YLT)  And the sons of Noah who are going out of the ark are Shem, and Ham, and Japheth; and Ham is father of Canaan.
Genesis 19:36-38 (YLT) And the two daughters of Lot conceive from their father, and the first-born beareth a son, and calleth his name Moab; he [is] father of Moab unto this day; as to the younger, she also hath born a son, and calleth his name Ben-Ammi: he [is] father of the Beni-Ammon unto this day.

BTW, Jacob aka Israel came on the scene many many years after Adam.

"their father confirming Isaiah 43:27"
What leads you to think Isaiah 43:27 refers to Adam, and not to Jacob aka Israel, who is alluded to in the immediately-following verse?

"In Luke 11:50-51 that the blood of all the prophets which was shed from the foundation of the world may be required of this generation, 51 from the blood of Abel to the blood of Zechariah who perished between the altar and the temple. Yes, I say to you, it shall be required of this generation.
You can see that the blood of Abel from the foundation of the world was only required from Israel only"

There were many Israelites who accepted Yeshua the Meshikha as being the long-awaited Messiah.  Was any "blood of all the prophets... required of" followers of Yeshua the Meshikha?

"The gospel was given exclusively to Israel only"
Reference?

Romans 1:16 (NIV), biblehub
For I am not ashamed of the gospel, because it is the power of God that brings salvation to everyone who believes: first to the Jew, then to the Gentile.

Galatians 2:14 (NIV)
When I saw that they were not acting in line with the truth of the gospel, I said to Cephas in front of them all, "You are a Jew, yet you live like a Gentile and not like a Jew. How is it, then, that you force Gentiles to follow Jewish customs?

"only Israelites were in covenant with the god of Israel. Only Israelites were commanded to obey the law and to keep the sabbath and to be circumcised. The God of the Bible was the God of Israel. The gospel was for salvation from the curse of the law. Only Israel was cursed. Only Israel needed the gospel. Only Israel was saved on the great day of the lord. Hebrews 8:8+9:15"

Hebrews 8:8 (NIV)
But God found fault with the people and said:
"The days are coming, declares the Lord, when I will make a new covenant with the people of Israel and with the people of Judah.
Hebrews 9:15 (NIV)
For this reason Christ is the mediator of a new covenant, that those who are called may receive the promised eternal inheritance--now that he has died as a ransom to set them free from the sins committed under the first covenant.

"Only Israel needed the gospel"
Did all of Israel accept the gospel?

"Only Israel was saved on the great day of the lord"
What was "the great day of the lord"?
Has all of Israel been "saved"?
Can anyone _not_ of Israel be "saved"?  or only Israel?

Do you agree with Romans:
11:11 that "life came to the Gentiles"?
11:15 that "their [many Israelites'] rejection [of the Messiah] was the reconciliation for the world"?
11:24 that God can take branches from "a wild olive tree" and have them be "grafted into the good olive tree"?
11:25 that "blindness of heart has for a little time come to Israel until the fullness of the Gentiles will come in"?
11:26 that "all Israel shall have life"?

Re: Romans 11, who are:
the broken-off branches?
the never-broken-off, still-attached branches?
from the "wild olive tree"?

"olive tree is israel. The wild olive tree are the gentiles. Gentiles that were foreknown were Israelites"
It seems that you're claiming that some gentiles were Israelites.  Am I understanding you accurately?
What do you mean by:  "gentiles"?  "Israelites"?

Romans 11 (Aramaic Bible in Plain English)
1 But I say, "Has God thrust away his people?" God forbid! I am also from Israel, from the seed of Abraham, from the tribe of Benjamin. 2 God has not thrust away his people, who were known to him from the first, or do you not know the Scriptures in which Elijah spoke when he complained to God about Israel and he said:
3 "My Lord, they have murdered your Prophets and they have toppled your altars, and I am left alone, and they seek my life"?
4 It was said to him by revelation,
"Behold, I have left for myself 7000 men who have not bowed their knees and worshiped Baal."
5 In the same way also at this time there is a remnant left in The Election of grace. 6 But if it is by grace, it is not from works, or else grace is not grace. But if it is by works, it is not from grace, or else work is not work.
7 Why therefore has not Israel found that which it was seeking, but The Election has found it and the rest of them were blinded in their hearts, 8 According to what is written:
"God gave them a spirit of frustration, and eyes that will not observe and ears that will not hear",
even until today? *
9 And again David said,
"Their table shall be a trap before them and their reward, a stumbling block.
10 Let their eyes be darkened, lest they see, and may their back always be bent over."

11 But I say, Did they stumble so that they would fall? God forbid! But by their offense, life came to the Gentiles, to their envy. 12 And if their offense was wealth to the world, and their condemnation is wealth to the Gentiles, how much more therefore, their fullness?
13 But I say to you Gentiles, I who am an Apostle of the Gentiles, I honor my ministry. 14 Perhaps I may make my kindred jealous, and I may save some of them. 15 For if their rejection was the reconciliation for the world, how much greater therefore is their return, if not life from the dead? 16 But if the first fruits are holy, so is the substance. And if the root is holy, so are the branches.

17 And if some of the branches were cut off and you, a wild olive tree, were grafted in their place, and you have become a partaker of the roots and of the fat of the olive tree, 18 Do not boast against the branches; but if you boast, were you not supported by the roots, rather than the root being supported by you? 19 Doubtless you will say, "The branches were cut off that I might be grafted in their place." 20 Fine, these were cut off because they did not believe, but you have stood by faith. Do not be lifted up in your mind, but stand in awe. 21 For if God did not show pity upon the natural branches, surely he will not show pity upon you. 22 Behold therefore, the sweetness and the hardness of God; on those who fell, hardness, and on you, sweetness, if you abide in his sweetness, but if not, you will also be cut off. 23 And if they do not continue in their utter lack of faith, they will also be grafted in, for God is able to graft them in again. 24 For if you who are from a wild olive tree, which is your natural condition, were cut off and are grafted into the good olive tree apart from your natural condition, how much more will those surely be grafted into the olive tree of their own nature?

25 I want you to know my brethren, this mystery, lest you would be wise in your own opinion, that blindness of heart has for a little time come to Israel until the fullness of the Gentiles will come in.
26 And then all Israel shall have life, according to what is written:
"The Savior shall come from Zion and he shall turn away evil from Jacob,
27 And then they shall have the covenant which comes from my presence, whenever I shall have forgiven their sins."

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Do you agree with 1 Cor 15:22 that:
"in Adam all die"?
"in the Christ all shall be made alive"/ in the Messiah all shall be made alive?

Do you think "all things" will "be subjected to" Jesus?

"who drank all the juice in the world"
When 1 Cor 15:22 says "in Adam all die," do you think that means, 'in Adam some but certainly not all people die'?
When 1 Cor 15:22 says "in the Christ all shall be made alive," do you think that means, 'in the Christ some but certainly not all will be made alive'?
When 1 Cor 15:28 says "all things" will "be subjected to" Jesus, do you think that means, 'some things but certainly not all things will be subjected to Jesus'?

1 Corinthians 15 (YLT), biblehub
20 And now, Christ hath risen out of the dead -- the first-fruits of those sleeping he became, 21 for since through man [is] the death, also through man [is] a rising again of the dead, 22 for even as in Adam all die, so also in the Christ all shall be made alive, 23 and each in his proper order, a first-fruit Christ, afterwards those who are the Christ's, in his presence, 24 then-- the end, when he may deliver up the reign to God, even the Father, when he may have made useless all rule, and all authority and power-- 25 for it behoveth him to reign till he may have put all the enemies under his feet-- 26 the last enemy is done away-- death; 27 for all things He did put under his feet, and, when one may say that all things have been subjected, [it is] evident that He is excepted who did subject the all things to him, 28 and when the all things may be subjected to him, then the Son also himself shall be subject to Him, who did subject to him the all things, that God may be the all in all.

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"love is unconditional"
Whose love?  (your love?  Jesus' love?)
Do you see advocacy of unconditional love here?:

Luke 6 (Aramaic Bible in Plain English), biblehub
27 "But I say to you who are hearing, Love your enemies and do what is wonderful to those who hate you."
28 "Bless those who curse you, and pray over those who take you away by force."
29 "And to him who strikes you on your cheek, offer the other, and from whoever takes away your cloak, withhold not your coat also."
30 "Give to everyone who asks you and do not demand from him who takes what is yours."
31 "And just as you desire people to do for you, do also for them."
32 "For if you love those who love you, what goodness do you have? Even sinners love those who love them."
33 "And if you are doing good to those who treat you well, what goodness do you have? For even sinners do likewise."
34 "And if you lend to him from whom you expect to be repaid, what goodness do you have? For even sinners lend to sinners to be repaid likewise."
35 "But love your enemies and treat them well and lend and do not cut off the hope of any person, and your reward shall be great and you shall be the children of The Highest because he is kind toward the evil and toward the unbelievers."
36 "Be therefore merciful, just as also your Father is merciful."

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"in this entire passage. ONLY references to OT Prophecies that CLEARLY have ISRAEL ONLY in their view.  And only ISRAEL (those in Jacob) would be SAVED"
Saved from who or what? 
Do you think Sodom:
has been restored?   will be restored?  won't ever be restored?

Ezekiel 16 (Berean Study Bible)
51 Furthermore, Samaria did not commit half the sins you did. You have multiplied your abominations beyond theirs, and all the abominations you have committed have made your sisters appear righteous. 52 So now you must bear your disgrace, since you have brought justification for your sisters. For they appear more righteous than you, because your sins were more vile than theirs. So you too must bear your shame and disgrace, since you have made your sisters appear righteous. 53 But I will restore Sodom and her daughters from captivity, as well as Samaria and her daughters. And I will restore you along with them. 54 So you will bear your disgrace and be ashamed of all you did to comfort them. 55 And your sisters, Sodom with her daughters and Samaria with her daughters, will return to their former state. You and your daughters will also return to your former state.

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"3) Believing scattered Israelites (gentiles/wild Olive tree)"

Do you think Yeshua the Mehikha was handed over to "believing scattered Israelites" to be crucified?

Matthew 20:19 (NIV)
https://biblehub .com/matthew/20-19.htm
https://biblehub .com/text/matthew/20-19.htm
and will hand him over to the Gentiles [Greek:  1484 ἔθνεσιν/ ethnesin/ Gentiles]
to be mocked and flogged and crucified. On the third day he will be raised to life!"

Do you think that "believing scattered Israelites" were prophesied to "trample on the holy city for 42 months"?

Revelation 11:2 (NIV)
https://biblehub .com/revelation/11-2.htm
https://biblehub .com/text/revelation/11-2.htm
But exclude the outer court; do not measure it,
because it has been given to the Gentiles [Greek:  1484/ ἔθνεσιν/ ethnesin/ Gentiles].
They will trample on the holy city for 42 months.

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Re: Romans 11:11, who stumbled and fell?
Who is the "them" in "to arouse them to jealousy"?
When the Greek Romans 11:11 says 'by their fall sōtēria/ σωτηρία/ salvation is to the ethnesin/ ἔθνεσιν/ Gentiles,' does that mean, 'by their fall salvation is to the Pharisees, Sadducees, priests, etc.'?
The "unbelieving Jews... like the Pharisees, Sadducees, and priests" were unbelievers in who or what?

Romans 11:11
https://biblehub .com/romans/11-11.htm
https://biblehub .com/interlinear/romans/11-11.htm
(YLT) I say, then, Did they stumble that they might fall? let it not be!
but by their fall the salvation [Greek:  4991/ sōtēria/ σωτηρία/ salvation] is to the nations [1484/ ethnesin/ ἔθνεσιν/ Gentiles], to arouse them to jealousy;

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Nobody alive today can demonstrate they have a genealogy that stretches back to Israelites in say A.D. 70.
I consider those who practice Judaism to be 'Jews'-- and only those who practice Judaism.
After the birth, death, and resurrection of Yeshua the Meshika, 'true Israelites' were those who worshiped and obeyed Yeshua the Meshika.

How do you know Hades was destroyed in A.D. 70?
Rapes and killings occur daily.  Do you think anyone sins these days?
People die these days daily.  Do you think any of them will ever be resurrected in any way?
Do any of them live on past their physical death?-- is there an afterlife for those who died after A.D. 70?

1 Corinthians 15:32 (NIV) If I fought wild beasts in Ephesus with no more than human hopes, what have I gained? If the dead are not raised, "Let us eat and drink, for tomorrow we die."

Many people have a conscience that tells them they sinned.  Has your conscience ever told you you sinned?

"what I think has nothing to do with"
I can understand the reluctance to have one's beliefs subjected to scrutiny.
If the beliefs were revealed to be erroneous, perhaps behaviours would have to be altered.

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"Joel 2:29 (NKJV) And also on My menservants and on My maidservants I will pour out My Spirit in those days."
Including those of Moab, Edom, and Philistia?

Psalm 108 (HCSB), biblehub
7 God has spoken in His sanctuary:
"I will triumph!
I will divide up Shechem.
I will apportion the Valley of Succoth.
8 Gilead is Mine, Manasseh is Mine,
and Ephraim is My helmet;
Judah is My scepter.
9 Moab is My washbasin;
I throw My sandal on Edom.
I shout in triumph over Philistia."

Ruth 4 (NIV)
.... "I will redeem it," he said.
5 Then Boaz said, "On the day you buy the land from Naomi, you also acquire Ruth the Moabite, the dead man's widow, in order to maintain the name of the dead with his property."
6 At this, the guardian-redeemer said, "Then I cannot redeem it because I might endanger my own estate. You redeem it yourself. I cannot do it."
7 (Now in earlier times in Israel, for the redemption and transfer of property to become final, one party took off his sandal and gave it to the other. This was the method of legalizing transactions in Israel.)
8 So the guardian-redeemer said to Boaz, "Buy it yourself." And he removed his sandal.
9 Then Boaz announced to the elders and all the people, "Today you are witnesses that I have bought from Naomi all the property of Elimelek, Kilion and Mahlon. 10 I have also acquired Ruth the Moabite, Mahlon's widow, as my wife, in order to maintain the name of the dead with his property, so that his name will not disappear from among his family or from his hometown. Today you are witnesses!"

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Do you think the men of Sodom were sinners?

Genesis 13 (Young's Literal), biblehub
12 Abram hath dwelt in the land of Canaan, and Lot hath dwelt in the cities of the circuit, and tenteth unto Sodom;
13 and the men of Sodom [are] evil, and sinners before Jehovah exceedingly.

Jude 1:7 (Young's Literal)
as Sodom and Gomorrah, and the cities around them, in like manner to these, having given themselves to whoredom, and gone after other flesh, have been set before -- an example, of fire age-during, justice suffering.

2 Peter 2:6 (Aramaic Bible in Plain English)
And when he burned the cities of Sadom and Amorah and condemned them in an overthrow, when he set an example to the wicked who were to come,

Matthew 10:15 (NIV)
Truly I tell you, it will be more bearable for Sodom and Gomorrah on the day of judgment than for that town.

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Did this prophecy turn out to be accurate?:  "Abraham shall surely become a great and mighty nation, and all the nations of the earth shall be blessed in him"
Did Sodom have numerous:  sinners?  righteous individuals?

Genesis 18 (King James), biblehub
16 And the men rose up from thence, and looked toward Sodom: and Abraham went with them to bring them on the way.
17 And the LORD said, Shall I hide from Abraham that thing which I do; 18 Seeing that Abraham shall surely become a great and mighty nation, and all the nations of the earth shall be blessed in him? 19 For I know him, that he will command his children and his household after him, and they shall keep the way of the LORD, to do justice and judgment; that the LORD may bring upon Abraham that which he hath spoken of him.
20 And the LORD said, Because the cry of Sodom and Gomorrah is great, and because their sin is very grievous; 21 I will go down now, and see whether they have done altogether according to the cry of it, which is come unto me; and if not, I will know.
22 And the men turned their faces from thence, and went toward Sodom: but Abraham stood yet before the LORD.
23 And Abraham drew near, and said, Wilt thou also destroy the righteous with the wicked? 24 Peradventure there be fifty righteous within the city: wilt thou also destroy and not spare the place for the fifty righteous that are therein? 25 That be far from thee to do after this manner, to slay the righteous with the wicked: and that the righteous should be as the wicked, that be far from thee: Shall not the Judge of all the earth do right?
26 And the LORD said, If I find in Sodom fifty righteous within the city, then I will spare all the place for their sakes.

Do you agree with Galatians:
3:7 that "those who are of faith are the children of Abraham"?
3:8 that "the nations are made right by faith"?
3:9 that "believers are blessed with the believer Abraham"?
3:14 that "the blessing of Abraham" is "with the nations by Yeshua The Messiah"?
3:29 that "if you are of The Messiah, you are therefore the seed of Abraham and heirs by The Promise"?

Galatians 3 (Aramaic Bible in Plain English), biblehub
6 Just as Abraham believed God and it was accounted to him for righteousness, 7 Know therefore that those who are of faith are the children of Abraham. 8 For because God knew beforehand that the nations are made right by faith, he preached The Good News to Abraham beforehand, as The Holy Scriptures say:
"In you shall all the nations be blessed."
9 So then, believers are blessed with the believer Abraham.  ....  14 That the blessing of Abraham would be with the nations by Yeshua The Messiah, and we would receive The Promise of The Spirit by faith.
....
22 But the Scripture has shut all things up under sin, that The Promise by the faith of Yeshua The Messiah would be given to those who are believers.  ....  26 For you are all children of God by the faith of Yeshua The Messiah. 27 For those who have been baptized into The Messiah have put on The Messiah. 28 There is neither Jew nor Aramaean, neither Servant nor Free person, neither male nor female, for all of you are one in Yeshua The Messiah. 29 And if you are of The Messiah, you are therefore the seed of Abraham and heirs by The Promise.

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Evidence that Paul wrote Ephesians only to biological descendants of Abraham Isaac and Jacob?
BTW, I can write something to X and still write about Y.
Do you agree with Ephesians 3:5 that "the Gentiles" can be "members of his [Yeshua the Messiah's] body," and "heirs... of The Promise that was given in him"?
What is the mystery that Paul wrote about when speaking of "the mystery was taught me by revelation.... the mystery which was hidden from the world"?

Ephesians 3 (Aramaic Bible in Plain English), biblehub
1 Because of this, I Paul am the prisoner of Yeshua The Messiah for the sake of you Gentiles, 2 If you have heard of the administration of the grace of God, which is given to me among you. 3 For the mystery was taught me by revelation, just as I have written to you briefly.
4 As whenever you read, you can understand my knowledge in the mystery of The Messiah, 5 Which in other generations was not made known to the children of men as now it is revealed to his holy Apostles and to his Prophets by The Spirit: 6 That the Gentiles would be heirs and members of his body and of The Promise that was given in him by The Gospel, 7 That of which I have been a minister, according to the gift of the grace of God which is given to me by the action of his power; 8 To me, I who am the least of all The Holy Ones, this grace has been given, that I should preach The Good News among the Gentiles, the unsearched wealth of The Messiah, 9 And that I may enlighten every person by the administration of the mystery which was hidden from the world in God The Creator of all, ....

Ephesians 3 (Young's Literal)
1 For this cause, I Paul, the prisoner of Christ Jesus for you the nations, 2 if, indeed, ye did hear of the dispensation of the grace of God that was given to me in regard to you, 3 that by revelation He made known to me the secret, according as I wrote before in few [words]--
4 in regard to which ye are able, reading [it], to understand my knowledge in the secret of the Christ, 5 which in other generations was not made known to the sons of men, as it was now revealed to His holy apostles and prophets in the Spirit-- 6 that the nations be fellow-heirs, and of the same body, and partakers of His promise in the Christ, through the good news, 7 of which I became a ministrant, according to the gift of the grace of God that was given to me, according to the working of His power; 8 to me-- the less than the least of all the saints-- was given this grace, among the nations to proclaim good news-- the untraceable riches of the Christ, 9 and to cause all to see what [is] the fellowship of the secret that hath been hid from the ages in God, who the all things did create by Jesus Christ, ....

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_Everyone_ that hasn't yet believed will believe.

The knees of who or what that are "under The Earth" will bow?
Do you think any knees _won't_ bow to Jesus?
Do you think Jesus:
is the Messiah?
ever came "with the clouds of the heavens as a son of man"?

Philippians 2 (Aramaic Bible in Plain English)
5 And reason in your souls this that also Yeshua The Messiah did: 6 He who, while he was in the form of God, did not esteem this as a prize, that he was the equal of God, 7 But he stripped himself and took the form of a Servant and was in the form of the children of men, and was found in fashion as a man. 8 And he humbled himself and was obedient unto death, even the death of being crucified. 9 Because of this, God has also greatly exalted him and he has given him The Name which is greater than all names, 10 That in The Name of Yeshua, every knee shall bow, which is in Heaven and in The Earth and which is under The Earth, 11 And every tongue shall confess that Yeshua The Messiah is THE LORD JEHOVAH to the glory of God his Father.

Daniel 7 (Young's Literal)
9 'I was seeing till that thrones have been thrown down, and the Ancient of Days is seated, His garment as snow [is] white, and the hair of his head [is] as pure wool, His throne flames of fire, its wheels burning fire.
10 A flood of fire is proceeding and coming forth from before Him, a thousand thousands do serve Him, and a myriad of myriads before Him do rise up, the Judge is seated, and the books have been opened.  ....
13 'I was seeing in the visions of the night, and lo, with the clouds of the heavens as a son of man was [one] coming, and unto the Ancient of Days he hath come, and before Him they have brought him near.
14 And to him is given dominion, and glory, and a kingdom, and all peoples, nations, and languages do serve him, his dominion [is] a dominion age-during, that passeth not away, and his kingdom that which is not destroyed.

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Yes, the Mosaic Law was given to Israel.  Has anyone _not_ under the Mosaic Law ever sinned?
Do you think Jesus is "a propitiation for" the sins of "the whole world"?

1 John 2 (Young's Literal)
1 My little children, these things I write to you, that ye may not sin: and if any one may sin, an advocate we have with the Father, Jesus Christ, a righteous one, 2 and he-- he is a propitiation for our sins, and not for ours only, but also for the whole world,  ....

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The Bible isn't decisive.  There are scriptures that can seem to support never-ending torture, annihilation, and universalism.  See
Universal Restoration & the Fate of the Wicked
https://tentmaker.org/forum/judgement-and-punishment/universal-restoration-verses/

The early church didn't have a uniform view:
_The New Schaff-Herzog Encyclopedia of Religious Knowledge, Volume 12_, edited by Albert Hauck, et. al., pg. 96
https://books.google.com/books?id=n2EhAQAAMAAJ&pg=PA96
Under the instruction of these great teachers many other theologians believed in universal salvation; and indeed the whole Eastern Church (q.v.) until after 500 A.D. was inclined to it. In the West this doctrine had fewer adherents and was never accepted by the Church at large. In the first five or six centuries of Christianity there were six known theological schools, of which four (Alexandria [see ALEXANDRIA, SCHOOL OF], Antioch, Caesarea, and Edessa or Nisibis) were Universalist, one (Ephesus) accepted conditional immortality; one (Carthage or Rome) taught endless punishment of the wicked. Other theological schools are mentioned as founded by Universalists, but their actual doctrine on this subject is unknown. Doederlein says that "In proportion as any man was eminent in learning in Christian antiquity, the more did he cherish and defend the hope of the termination of future torments." In the dark ages Universalism almost disappeared....

The fatherhood of God was progressively unveiled and is key, as discussed in the 2nd half of this excellent book:
_Immortality: The Drew Lecture: Delivered October 11, 1912_ by Robert Henry Charles (Oxford:  Clarendon Press), 38pp.
https://archive.org/details/immortalitydrew00chargoog/page/n6
A brief extract is at
https://tentmaker.org/forum/judgement-and-punishment/r-h-charles-bring-eschatology-into-harmony-w-xtian-theology-of-god/

All of us are children-- God's children-- in this.  God can't be fully comprehended, even after a trillion years of interacting with him.

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It's OK to not "know" for certain.  As an idea, treat your beliefs as beads on a wire. With more evidence, move a belief closer to certainty. When an argument comes that undercuts the belief, move the belief closer to the 'probably not correct' side. But don't let your bead fall off the wire on either end into 'absolute certainty.'

Feynman, Richard P. 1998. _The Meaning of It All_, 133pp. On 26-27:
Scientists, therefore, are used to dealing with doubt and uncertainty. All scientific knowledge is uncertain. This experience with doubt and uncertainty is important. I believe that it is of very great value, and one that extends beyond the sciences. I believe that to solve any problem that has never been solved before, you have to leave the door to the unknown ajar. You have to permit the possibility that you do not have it exactly right. Otherwise, if you have made up your mind already, you might not solve it.

Lyttleton, R. A. 1977. "The Nature of Knowledge" in _The Encyclopaedia of Ignorance_, Ronald Duncan and Miranda Weston-Smith, eds. (NY: Pocket Books), 9-17. Lyttleton was a Professor of Theoretical Astronomy, and Fellow of St John's College, University of Cambridge. On 13, 14:
The scientific attitude to adopt in regard to any hypothesis in my view (and we are talking of subjective things) can be represented schematically by means of a simple model of a bead that can be moved on a short length of horizontal wire (see diagram on next page). Suppose the left-hand end [is] denoted by 0 (zero) and the right-hand end by 1 (unity), and let 0 correspond to complete disbelief unqualified, and the right-hand end 1 to absolute certain belief in the hypothesis. Now the principle of practice that I would urge on all intending scientist in regard to any and every hypothesis is: _Never let your bead ever quite reach the position 0 or 1._

This is quite possible, for however close to the end one may have set it, there are still an infinite number of points to move the bead to in either direction in the light of new data or new arguments or whatever. If genuine scientific data reach your attention that increase your confidence in the hypothesis, then move your bead suitably towards 1, but never let it quite get there. If decreasing confidence is engendered by genuine data, then let your bead move towards 0, but again never let it quite reach there. Your changing confidence must be the result of your own independent scientific judgment of the data or arguments or proofs and so on, and not be allowed to result from arguments based on reputation of others, nor upon such things as numerical strength of believers or disbelievers. ....

It seems to be a common defect of human minds that they tend to crave for complete certainty of belief or disbelief in anything. Not only is this undesirable scientifically, but it must be recognized that no such state is attainable in science. However successful and reliable a theory may be up to any point of time, further data may come along and show a need for adjustment of the theory, while at the other extreme, however little confidence one has in a hypothesis, new data may change the situation. We come now to the reason why one should never allow a bead to get right to 0 or 1: it is that, if one does so, the bead will fall into a deep potential-well associated with every facet of non-scientific or even anti-scientific emotion. In some cases the depth may tend to infinity, especially with advancing years, and no amount of data

conflicting with the certain belief or disbelief will ever get the bead out of the well back onto even the tenor of the wire. Any attempt to bring about the uplifting of a bead so situated, by means of data or reason, can sometimes lead the owner of the bead to manifest further attitudes unworthy scientifically. In some cases it may be useless to discuss the hypothesis or theory to which the bead relates. On the other hand, if the bead is kept somewhere on the wire _between_ 0 and 1 always, it can if necessary be moved quite readily in response to new data with the owner remaining calmly tranquil rather than undergoing an emotional upset. With such reaction to hypotheses and theories, one can get genuine scientific pleasure from adjusting one's beads to take account of new data and new arguments.

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"if you think that all men means all mankind on the earth"
Do you disagree with any of this?:

1 Corinthians 15:22 (NIV) For as in Adam all die,
so in Christ all will be made alive.

Romans 5:15 (Darby Bible Translation)
But [shall] not the act of favour
[be] as the offence?
For if by the offence of one
the many have died,
much rather has the grace of God,
and the free gift in grace,
which [is] by the one man Jesus Christ,
abounded unto the many.

Romans 5:18 (NIV) Consequently, just as one trespass
resulted in condemnation for all people,
so also one righteous act
resulted in justification and life for all people.

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"He didn't die for the goats"
Do you disagree with any of this?:

Romans 5 (Aramaic Bible in Plain English), biblehub
6 But surely because of our weakness,
at this time The Messiah has died for the sake of the wicked.
7 For a man will hardly die for the sake of the wicked,
however a man perhaps may dare to die for the sake of the good.
8 Here God demonstrates his love for us,
because if when we were sinners,
The Messiah died in our place,
9 How much more therefore,
would we all the more be justified now by his blood
and be saved from wrath by him?
10 For if when we were enemies,
God was reconciled with us in the death of his Son,
how much more therefore, in his reconciliation,
shall we live all the more by his life?

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"the story is about Israel"
Do you disagree with any of the *ed material here?:

Romans 5 (Aramaic Bible in Plain English), biblehub
12 For just as by the agency of one man,
sin entered the universe,
and by means of sin, death,
in this way
*death passed by this sin unto all the children of men,
because all of them have sinned.*
13 For until The Written Law, sin was in the universe,
but it was not accounted as sin, because there was no written law.
14 But *death reigned from Adam and until Moses, even over those who had not sinned in the likeness of Adam's violation of the law,* who was the image of him who was to come.
15 But the fall was unlike the gift in this way:
for if
*because of the fall of one
the many died,*
much more, therefore,
the grace of God and the gift by The One Man Yeshua The Messiah
shall superabound to the many.
16 And the gift is not the same as the offense of the one,
for the judgment was from the one to pronouncing guilty verdicts,
but the gift was from many sins to righteousness.
17 For if because of the offense of one,
death reigned,
all the more, those who receive an abundance of favor and the gift of righteousness
shall reign in life
by the agency of The One, Yeshua The Messiah.
18 In like manner therefore,
because of the offense of the one
*there was a guilty verdict to all the children of men,*
in the same way,
because of the righteousness of The One
there shall be the victory for Life to all the children of men.
19 For just as
*because of the disobedience of one man
the many became sinners,*
so also
because of the obedience of The One
the many become righteous.
20 But *there was the introduction to The Written Law that sin would increase,*
and wherever sin increased,
there grace superabounded.
21 That as sin reigned by death,
in this way grace shall reign by righteousness to eternal life
by Our Lord Yeshua The Messiah.

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"he lost not one"
Not even Judas Iscariot?

John 17:12 (NIV) While I was with them, I protected them and kept them safe by that name you gave me. None has been lost except the one doomed to destruction so that Scripture would be fulfilled.

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"the NT was written for those that were in the old covenant"
Were King Agrippa, Governor Festus, and Berniqi "in the old covenant"?
Were they "physical descendants of the tribes of Israel"?

Acts 26 (Aramaic Bible in Plain English, with some "s deleted), biblehub
1 And Agrippa said to Paulus, "You are permitted to speak for yourself."
And Paulus stretched out his hand and offered a defense and said:
2 "Concerning everything of which I am accused by the Jews, King Agrippa....
24 When Paulus had thus rendered a defense, Festus cried out with a loud voice, "You are insane, Paul! Much study has made you insane!"
25 Paulus said, "I am not insane, excellent Festus, but I am speaking words of truth and integrity. 26 Also King Agrippa especially knows of such things as these, therefore I speak openly before him, because I do not think one of these matters has escaped him, for they were not done in secret. 27 Do you believe The Prophets, King Agrippa? I know that you do believe."
28 Agrippa said to him, "In a little bit you will persuade me to become a Christian."
29 Paulus said, *"I have desired* from God in a little and in much, not for you only, but also *for all those who are hearing me now to be like me, except for these chains."*
30 And The King stood for him, and the Governor and Berniqi and those who were sitting with them.

Do you disagree with any of this?:

Romans 9 (Aramaic Bible in Plain English), biblehub; v. 31's "?" edited into a "."
6 But it was not that the word of God had failed,
for they were not all of Israel, who are Israel;
7 Neither because they are of his seed are they all children of Abraham,
because it was said,
"In Isaac your seed shall be called."
8 But this is not because the children of the flesh are the children of God,
but the children of The Promise are accounted for the seed.
....
23 And his love overflowed on the vessels of compassion
that were prepared by God for glory;
24 For we are called,
not only from the Jews
but also from the Gentiles.
25 Just as it says also in Hosea:
"I shall call those who were not my people, 'My people',
and you who were not beloved, 'Beloved'.
26 For it shall be
in the place where they were called, 'Not my people',
there they shall be called 'children of THE LIVING GOD.' "
27 But Isaiah preached against the children of Israel:
"If the number of the children of Israel is as the sand of the sea,
a remnant of them shall be saved."
28 He has cut the matter short and has cut it off;
THE LORD JEHOVAH shall do it upon The Earth.
29 And as that which Isaiah said before:
"If THE LORD JEHOVAH of Hosts had not left survivors,
we would have been like Sadom
and we would have been like Amorah.
30 What shall we say, therefore?
The Gentiles, who did not run after righteousness
have obtained righteousness,
even the righteousness which is from faith,
31 But Israel that had run after The Written Law of righteousness
did not obtain the Law of righteousness.
32 Why? Because it was not from faith,
but from the works of The Written Law,
for they were stumbled at the stumbling stone,
33 As it is written:
"Behold. I have laid down in Zion a stumbling stone
and a stone of offense
and whoever will believe in him will not be disappointed."

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Do you agree with me that Judas Iscariot was an Israelite?
Do you have the righteousness of God?  (if 'no':  do you think you would benefit from having the righteousness of God?)

Romans 10 (Aramaic Bible in Plain English), biblehub
1 My brethren, the desire of my heart and my petition before God is on their behalf that they would have life.
2 For I bear witness to them, that they do have zeal for God, but not by knowledge.
3 For they have not known the righteousness of God,
but they have sought to establish their own righteousness,
and therefore they have not submitted to the righteousness of God.
4 For The Messiah is the consummation of The Written Law for righteousness to everyone who believes.
....
9 And if you will confess with your mouth Our Lord Yeshua,
and you will believe in your heart that God has raised him from the dead,
you shall have life.
10 For the heart that believes in him is made right,
and the mouth that confesses him has life.
11 For the Scriptures say,
"Everyone who believes in him will be unashamed."
12 And he makes no distinction in this,
not for the Jews,
neither for the Aramaeans,
for he is The One LORD JEHOVAH to all of them,
who is rich with everyone who calls to him.
13 "For everyone who will call the name of THE LORD JEHOVAH shall be saved."
....
19 But I say, "Did not Israel know beforehand?" Moses spoke thus:
"I shall make you jealous
by a people that is not a people
and by a people that is disobedient
I shall anger you."
20 But Isaiah was bold and he said,
"I appeared to those who did not seek me
and I was found by those who did not ask for me."
21 But to Israel he said,
"I reached my hands out all day to a contentious and disobedient people."

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"Pagans didn't get judged on the day of the lord"
Which if any of these cities were:  pagan?  judged on "the day of judgment"?:
Sadom & Ammora.  Tyre.  Tsidon.

Matthew 10 (Aramaic Bible in Plain English), biblehub
14 "But whoever does not receive you, neither listens to your words, when you depart from the house or from the village, shake the sand from your feet." 15 "And truly I say to you, it will be tranquil in the day of judgment for the land of Sadom and Ammora compared to that city."

Luke 10 (Aramaic Bible in Plain English), with many "s deleted
8 "And whatever city you enter, and they receive you, eat anything that is offered to you. 9 And heal those who are sick in it and say to them,
The Kingdom of God has come near to you.
10 But whichever city you enter and they will not receive you,
go out to the street and say:
11 'Even the sand that cleaves to our feet from your city we wipe off unto you,
yet know this, The Kingdom of God has come near to you.'
12 I say to you that it shall be pleasant for Sadom in that day,
compared to that city.
13 Woe to you Korazin, woe to you Bethsaida, because
if the miracles had occurred in Tyre and Tsidon that have occurred in you,
they doubtless would have repented in sackcloth and in ashes.
14 Yet for Tyre and for Tsidon it shall be pleasant in the day of judgment
compared to you.
15 And you Kapernahum, she that was exalted unto Heaven,
you shall be debased unto Sheol.
16 Whoever listens to you listens to me,
and whoever rejects you, rejects me,
and whoever rejects me,
rejects The One who sent me."

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"They were destroyed because they were against his children"
Who is "they"?  (those who died in the flood?  those who remained at Sodom & Gomorrah?)

"not all Israel was saved-- only the elect remnant"
Saved from who or what?
When will all Israel have life?
Who do you think "Gentiles" here refers to?:

Romans 11 (Aramaic Bible in Plain English), biblehub
25 I want you to know my brethren, this mystery, lest you would be wise in your own opinion, that blindness of heart has for a little time come to Israel until the fullness of the Gentiles will come in.
26 And then all Israel shall have life, according to what is written:
"The Savior shall come from Zion and he shall turn away evil from Jacob,
27 And then they shall have the covenant which comes from my presence,
whenever I shall have forgiven their sins."

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"there are 12 nations of Israel"
12 tribes, yes.  Reference for the claim that "there are 12 nations of Israel"?

"the nations are Israel"
Do you think 'nations' in these verses refer to Israel?:

1471. גּוֹי (goy), with snips
https://biblehub .com/hebrew/strongs_1471.htm
Isaiah 10:7
NAS: And to cut off many nations.
Isaiah 25:3
NAS: of ruthless nations will revere
KJV: of the terrible nations shall fear
Isaiah 36:18
NAS: of the gods of the nations delivered
Isaiah 37:12
KJV: Have the gods of the nations delivered
Isaiah 60:12
NAS: For the nation and the kingdom which

Isaiah 42:1 (NIV)
https://biblehub .com/text/isaiah/42-1.htm
https://biblehub .com/isaiah/42-1.htm
"Here is my servant, whom I uphold,
my chosen one in whom I delight;
I will put my Spirit on him,
and he will bring justice to the nations.[Hebrew: 1471/ לַגּוֹיִ֥ם/ lag-gō-w-yim/ to the Gentiles]

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"people of god/Israel.  They were in covenant with the god of Israel"
In this Luke 20 parable, who is represented by:
the owner of the vineyard?
the owner's beloved son?
the vineyard laborers who rebelled against the owner?

Re: "he shall give the vineyard to others," who is "others"?

Luke 20 (Aramaic Bible in Plain English)
9 And he began to tell the people this parable:
"A certain man planted a vineyard and handed it over to laborers and he went abroad for a long time. 10 And at the season he sent his servant to the workers to give him some of the fruits of the vineyard, but the workers beat him and they sent him away stripped. 11 And he added and sent another servant, but they beat that one also and they abused him and they sent him away naked. 12 But he added and sent a third, but they also wounded that one and cast him out. 13 The owner of the vineyard said, 'What shall I do? I shall send my beloved son. Doubtless they will see him and they will be ashamed.' 14 But when the workers saw him, they were counseling among themselves and they were saying, 'This is the heir; come let us kill him, and the inheritance shall be ours.' 15 And they cast him out of the vineyard and murdered him. What therefore will the owner of the vineyard do to them? 16 He shall come and destroy those workers, and he shall give the vineyard to others"; but when they heard, they said, "May this not be!"
17 But he gazed upon them and he said, "And what is this that is written:
'The stone which the builders rejected has become the head of the corner'"?
18 "And everything that falls on that stone shall be broken, and it will scatter everything whatsoever upon which it will fall."
19 But the Chief Priests and the Scribes were seeking to lay hands upon him at that hour, and they were afraid of the people, for they knew that he had spoken this parable against them.

Isaiah 5 (NIV)
1 I will sing for the one I love
a song about his vineyard:
My loved one had a vineyard
on a fertile hillside.
2 He dug it up and cleared it of stones
and planted it with the choicest vines.
He built a watchtower in it
and cut out a winepress as well.
Then he looked for a crop of good grapes,
but it yielded only bad fruit.
3 Now you dwellers in Jerusalem and people of Judah,
judge between me and my vineyard.
4 What more could have been done for my vineyard
than I have done for it?
When I looked for good grapes,
why did it yield only bad?
5 Now I will tell you
what I am going to do to my vineyard:
I will take away its hedge,
and it will be destroyed;
I will break down its wall,
and it will be trampled.
6 I will make it a wasteland,
neither pruned nor cultivated,
and briers and thorns will grow there.
I will command the clouds
not to rain on it.
7 The vineyard of the Lord Almighty
is the nation of Israel,
and the people of Judah
are the vines he delighted in.
And he looked for justice, but saw bloodshed;
for righteousness, but heard cries of distress.

Matthew 23 (Aramaic Bible in Plain English), biblehub
14 Woe to you Scribes and Pharisees, impostors, for you shut the Kingdom of Heaven before the children of men, for you are not entering, and those who are entering you do not permit to enter!
15 Woe to you Scribes and Pharisees, impostors! For you travel around sea and land to make one convert, and when it has happened, you make him doubly the son of Gehenna that you are!  ....
23 Woe to you Scribes and Pharisees, impostors, for you tithe mint and dill and cummin and you forsake the weighty things of the law: Justice, mercy and faith! ....
25 Woe to you Scribes and Pharisees, impostors, who wash the outside of the cup and of the dish, but within are full of plunder and evil! ....
28 So also you from the outside appear to the children of men as righteous, and from within are filled with evil and hypocrisy.  ....
34 Because of this behold, I am sending to you Prophets and wise men and scribes; some of them you will murder and you will crucify, and some of them you will scourge in your synagogues and you will persecute them from city to city....
37 Jerusalem, Jerusalem, you that murdered The Prophets and stoned those who were sent to it! How many times have I desired to gather your children, as a hen gathers her chicks under her wings, and you were not willing! 38 Behold, your house is left to you desolate!

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"redemption has to do with Israel only"
Do you agree with this?:

Romans 11:32 (NIV)
For God has bound everyone over to disobedience
so that he may have mercy on them all.

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"can't think that the Bible was actually written for you or to you"
Do you believe God:
exists?
knows all about you?
loves you?

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"law being saved from"

Romans 7 (Aramaic Bible in Plain English)
21 I find, therefore, a law agreeing with my conscience which wants to do good, because evil is near me. 22 For I rejoice in the law of God in the inner person.
23 But I saw another law in my members that makes war against the law of my conscience and takes me captive to the law of sin that is in my members.

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Jesus came back by the end of A.D. 70, and ever since then, has made numerous appearances to various people through the years.

"Ninevah story is... mythical"
How'd you come to that conclusion? 
Jesus referred to Ninevah.  Do you think Jesus:
is mythical?
lived and died?
lived, died, and was resurrected?

"what law are you under?"
The law of love.

https://biblehub .net/searchnt.php?q=law+love
Romans 13:10 Love works no ill to its neighbour; love therefore is the whole law. ...
James 2:8 If you really keep the royal law found in Scripture, "Love your neighbor as yourself," you are doing right. ...
Galatians 5:14 For the entire law is fulfilled in one statement: Love your neighbor as yourself. ...
Romans 13:8 Be in debt for nothing, but to have love for one another: for he
who has love for his neighbour has kept all the law. ...
John 13:34 I give you a new law: Have love one for another; even as I have had
love for you, so are you to have love one for another. ...
2 John 1:5 And now, my sister, I make a request to you, not sending you a new law, but the
law which we had from the first, that we have love for one another. ...
John 15:17 So this is my law for you: Have love one for another. ....
John 15:12 This is the law I give you: Have love one for another, even as I have love for you.

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Do you think "the Bible god" laid claim to non-Israelites?

Psalm 108 (HCSB), biblehub
7 God has spoken in His sanctuary:
"I will triumph!
I will divide up Shechem.
I will apportion the Valley of Succoth.
8 Gilead is Mine, Manasseh is Mine,
and Ephraim is My helmet;
Judah is My scepter.
9 Moab is My washbasin;
I throw My sandal on Edom.
I shout in triumph over Philistia."

Ruth 4 (NIV)
.... "I will redeem it," he said.
5 Then Boaz said, "On the day you buy the land from Naomi, you also acquire Ruth the Moabite, the dead man's widow, in order to maintain the name of the dead with his property."
6 At this, the guardian-redeemer said, "Then I cannot redeem it because I might endanger my own estate. You redeem it yourself. I cannot do it."
7 (Now in earlier times in Israel, for the redemption and transfer of property to become final, one party took off his sandal and gave it to the other. This was the method of legalizing transactions in Israel.)
8 So the guardian-redeemer said to Boaz, "Buy it yourself." And he removed his sandal.
9 Then Boaz announced to the elders and all the people, "Today you are witnesses that I have bought from Naomi all the property of Elimelek, Kilion and Mahlon. 10 I have also acquired Ruth the Moabite, Mahlon's widow, as my wife, in order to maintain the name of the dead with his property, so that his name will not disappear from among his family or from his hometown. Today you are witnesses!"

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Revelation 14 (Aramaic Bible in Plain English), biblehub
3 And they were singing as a new hymn of praise before the throne and before The Four Beasts and before the Elders, and no one was able to learn the hymn but the one hundred and forty four thousand redeemed from The Earth.
4 These are those who have not been defiled with women, for they are virgins who cleave to the Lamb wherever he goes. These were redeemed from men, the firstfruits to God and to the Lamb.
5 And there is no falsehood found in their mouths as they are without fault.

verse 4: "the firstfruits to God and to the Lamb" 
Those firstfruits are the _first_ fruits-- there's more fruit than just that.
Do you agree with 1 Cor 15:22?

1 Corinthians 15 (Aramaic Bible in Plain English)
20 But now The Messiah is risen from among the dead
and is the first fruits of those who sleep.
21 Just as by a man death came,
in this way also by a man the dead come to life.
22 For just as by Adam all people die,
in this way also by The Messiah they all live;
23 Each person in his order;
The Messiah was the first fruits;
after this, those who are The Messiah's at his arrival.
24 And then the end will come,
when he will deliver The Kingdom to God The Father,
when he will destroy every Ruler and every Authority and all Powers.
25 For he is going to reign until all his enemies will be set under his feet,
26 And the last enemy death shall be destroyed.
27 For he brought all things to submission under his feet.
But when it says, "All things are subjected to him",
it is understood that it excludes him who subjected all things to him.
28 And when all is subjected to him,
then the Son shall be subject to him who subjected all things to him,
that God might be all in all.

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"Christ died only for the sins committed under the first covenant"
So Christ didn't die for:
Adam's sins?
the sins of those who died during the flood?

1 Peter 3 (Aramaic Bible in Plain English)
18 Because The Messiah also died once for the sake of our sins,
The Righteous One in the place of sinners,
to bring you to God,
and he died in body and lived in his Spirit.
19 And he preached to those souls who were held in Sheol,
20 These who from the first were not convinced in the days of Noah when the long-suffering of God commanded that there would be an ark, upon the hope of their repentance, and only eight souls entered it and were kept alive by water.

"To say that god loves all mankind and that he sent his son to die for all mankind is to say that you don't understand the Bible"
How do you think John 3:16 should be understood? 
('For God loved Israelites so much that he gave up his Son, The Only One, so that Israelites-- and _only_ biological descendants of Abraham Isaac and Jacob-- who trust in him shall not be lost, but shall have the world/age of life'?)

John 3 (Aramaic Bible in Plain English)
14 And just as Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness,
thus The Son of Man is going to be lifted up,
15 So that every person who believes in him shall not be lost,
but shall have eternal life.
16 For God loved the world in this way:
so much that he would give up his Son, The Only One,
so that everyone who trusts in him shall not be lost,
but he shall have eternal life.
17 For God did not send his Son into the world that he would condemn the world,
but that he would give life to the world by him.
18 Whoever believes in him is not judged,
and whoever does not believe is judged already,
because he does not believe in The Name of The Only Begotten Son of God.
19 This is the judgment:
The Light has come into the world
and the children of men loved the darkness more than The Light,
because their works were evil.
20 For everyone who does what is hateful,
hates The Light and does not come to The Light,
lest his works should be convicted.
21 But he who does The Truth
comes to The Light,
so that his works may be revealed,
that they are performed by God."

"not sure about that"
Do you believe a super-intelligent creator(s) created:
the universe?
the biological world?
humans?

Do you think there's an afterlife? 
If 'yes,' what is it like?  is it the the same for everybody?  is it different for different people?   is it extremely unpleasant for some?

Do you know if life can come from non-life?
Have you ever mistreated anyone?  and if 'yes,' what are all the ways in which the person you most mistreated suffered?

"some people don't want answers because then playtime is over"
Many atheists and agnostics don't want answers because then they'd have to stop mistreating others in the sexual arena.

Here's a healing miracle of tinnitus, and a healing of back pain and of a detached kneecap, that look credible to me:
Todd White - Miracle at the Shawarma Shop (ISRAEL Part 8 ) - Jan 6, 2018
https://youtu.be/R71UJ_E7CwE
3:00+:
Must Watch Dramatic New York Healing and Salvation - Oct 20, 2013 - Thomas Fischer
https://youtu.be/w_b2B15037U

_Saints Who Raised the Dead: True Stories of 400 Resurrection Miracles_ (1986)
https://www.amazon.com/Saints-Who-Raise-Dead-Resurrection/dp/0895557983/

Do you think the patrol officer & mother and Hogan are lying?
DEADRAISER State Patrol Scene
https://youtu.be/NgF7jJ88Oho
David Hogan on
Raising His Very First Dead Person
https://youtu.be/MgPpuiT13FI

"In the OT, satan was never used as a proper name"
Not even in the early chapters of Job?
"make them appear to be an entity"
Was Jesus tested by an intelligent entity with whom Jesus conversed?

God doesn't lie.  Do you think God is still speaking to humans?
If you were faced with the question of whether take the new job or stay where you are, would you ask God for his thoughts on the matter?
If a woman was faced with the question of whether marry a particular guy, should she ask God for God's thoughts on the matter?

_Everyone_ has been predestined to eventually enter the world of life. Jesus will get what he paid for.

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"all mankind are not the children of god"
All people will acknowledge that Yeshua is the Messiah and trust in him (if they haven't already), and be children of God.

John 1 (Young's Literal)
9 He was the true Light, which doth enlighten every man, coming to the world; 10 in the world he was, and the world through him was made, and the world did not know him: 11 to his own things he came, and his own people did not receive him; 12 but as many as did receive him to them he gave authority to become sons of God-- to those believing in his name, 13 who-- not of blood nor of a will of flesh, nor of a will of man but-- of God were begotten.

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"Who made that outcry? It couldn't have been the population of Sodom since the whole city was corrupt"
Every time there is sin-- including homosexual activity-- there are victims of that sin. The perpetrators of sin injure both themselves and their victims. Even the murdered make an outcry.

Genesis 4 (NIV), biblehub
5. .... So Cain was very angry, and his face was downcast. 6 Then the Lord said to Cain, "Why are you angry? Why is your face downcast? 7 If you do what is right, will you not be accepted? But if you do not do what is right, sin is crouching at your door; it desires to have you, but you must rule over it."
8 Now Cain said to his brother Abel, "Let's go out to the field." While they were in the field, Cain attacked his brother Abel and killed him.
9 Then the Lord said to Cain, "Where is your brother Abel?"
"I don?t know," he replied. "Am I my brother's keeper?"
10 The Lord said, "What have you done? Listen! Your brother's blood cries out to me from the ground. 11 Now you are under a curse and driven from the ground, which opened its mouth to receive your brother's blood from your hand. 12 When you work the ground, it will no longer yield its crops for you. You will be a restless wanderer on the earth."

[Sadhu Sundar Singh]"I was also told that in this world our spiritual bodies are inside our material bodies, and that when we sin it is like when we press with a point on paper behind which is a sheet of carbon; on the outside of the paper there is a very slight mark, but inside there is a clear black mark.  Thus our sins mark and scar our spiritual bodies, and the result of this will be seen when, after death, the spiritual body escapes from the material; and the revelation of the injury it has sustained will in itself be a large part of the judgment." - see: 

Quote from: DavidFord on August 07, 2019, 01:47:02 AM

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"It was Lot who cried out to the Lord. It was Lot who was saved. You will discover that every time God judges a people or a nation it is for His chosen people. Genesis 12:3"

Are you saying that Lot and Lot's descendants-- including the Moabites and Ammonites-- were part of God's "chosen people"?

Genesis 12 (NIV)
1 The Lord had said to Abram,
"Go from your country, your people and your father's household
to the land I will show you.
2 "I will make you into a great nation,
and I will bless you;
I will make your name great,
and you will be a blessing.
3 I will bless those who bless you,
and whoever curses you I will curse;
and all peoples on earth
will be blessed through you."

Genesis 19 (NIV)
36 So both of Lot's daughters became pregnant by their father. 37 The older daughter had a son, and she named him Moab; he is the father of the Moabites of today. 38 The younger daughter also had a son, and she named him Ben-Ammi; he is the father of the Ammonites of today.

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Cornelius and I are believers, which makes us Israelites who have Abraham as a father.
"that he would be the father to all those who believe"

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Paul considered utterly worthless his being a biological descendant of Abraham Isaac and Jacob aka Israel.  Was Paul mistaken?

Philippians 3 (Aramaic Bible in Plain English), biblehub
2 Beware of dogs; beware of evildoers; beware of the circumcisers. 3 For we are the circumcision, those who serve God in The Spirit, and we glory in Yeshua The Messiah, and we do not trust upon the flesh, 4 As I did have trust in the flesh, for if a man has hoped in his trust in the flesh, I have more than he: 5 Circumcised on the eighth day, of the family of Israel, from the tribe of Benjamin, a Hebrew, son of a Hebrew, in the Law, a Pharisee; 6 In zeal, a persecutor of the church, in righteousness of The Written Law I was without indictment.
7 But these things that were advantages to me, I have accounted losses for the sake of The Messiah. 8 I also consider all these things a loss for the majesty of the knowledge of Yeshua The Messiah, my Lord, him for whose sake I have lost everything, and I consider it all as a dung heap, that I may gain The Messiah, 9 And be found in him, while I do not have my own righteousness, which is from The Written Law, but that which is from the faith of The Messiah, which is the righteousness that is from God, ....

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As soon as God says that something be done, it's as good as done. 

Before the temple's and Jerusalem's destruction in A.D. 70, there was no separation of 'Christians' vs. 'Jews.'  Followers of Yeshua the Meshikha considered themselves the 'true Jews.'

Revelation 2:9 (Aramaic Bible in Plain English), biblehub
"I know your suffering and your poverty (but you are rich) and the blasphemy of those who call themselves Jews of the Judeans, when they are not, but are the synagogue of Satan."

Revelation 3:9 (Aramaic Bible in Plain English)
"And behold, I grant some of the synagogue of Satan, of those who say about themselves that they are Jews and are not, but they are lying, behold, I shall make them come and worship [no:  bow down] before your feet and to know that I love you."

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Do you believe "the Holy Ones... of the household of Caesar":
had Abraham as their biological forefather?
were "old covenant Israelites"?

Do you think Paul believed "the Holy Ones... of the household of Caesar":
had Abraham as their biological forefather?
were "old covenant Israelites"?

Philippians 4:22 (Aramaic Bible in Plain English), biblehub
All The Holy Ones invoke your peace, especially these of the household of Caesar.

v. 11: "father to all those who believe"
Romans 4 (Aramaic Bible in Plain English)
11 For he received circumcision as a sign and the seal of the righteousness of his faith, when in uncircumcision, that he would be the father to all those who believe among the uncircumcision, that it would be reckoned to them also for righteousness.

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Do you agree with this?:

1 Timothy 4:10 (NIV)
That is why we labor and strive,
because we have put our hope in the living God,
who is the Savior of all people,
and especially of those who believe.

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Do you agree that "all Israel shall have life"?

Romans 11 (Aramaic Bible in Plain English), biblehub
25 I want you to know my brethren, this mystery,
lest you would be wise in your own opinion, that
blindness of heart has for a little time come to Israel
until the fullness of the Gentiles will come in.
26 And then all Israel shall have life, according to what is written:
"The Savior shall come from Zion
and he shall turn away evil from Jacob,
27 And then they shall have the covenant which comes from my presence,
whenever I shall have forgiven their sins."

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God will restore all people-- including those of Sodom-- because he strongly loves all people.

Romans 11:12 (NET Bible)
https://biblehub.com/romans/11-12.htm
Now if their transgression means riches for the world
and their defeat means riches for the Gentiles,
how much more will their full restoration bring?

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I'm asking for more information about the situation, and perhaps you don't know the answer.
How did the person prayed for feel: 
before the supposed-healing?
after the supposed-healing?

Many people through the years have been healed, only to lose their healing.  Many healings have to be aggressively fought for to be retained.

John 5:14 (NIV)
Later Jesus found him at the temple and said to him, "See, you are well again. Stop sinning or something worse may happen to you."

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Who would you give priority to:  Jesus, or Moses?  Jesus, or Elijah?

Luke 9 (Aramaic Bible in Plain English)
32 And Shimeon and those with him were groggy with sleep, and they awakened with difficulty, and they saw his glory and those two men who were standing with him. 33 And when they began to part from him, Shimeon said to Yeshua, "Rabbi, it is beautiful for us to be here. Let us make three Tabernacles: one for you, one for Moses, and one for Elijah." And he did not know what he said. 34 And as he said these things, there was a cloud that formed a tabernacle about them and they were afraid when they beheld Moses and Elijah who entered into the cloud. 35 And there was a voice from the cloud that said,
"This is my Son, The Beloved; Hear him."

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Where is your conscience located, if not your heart?
The western 'conscience' and the ancient Hebrew's 'heart' are practically synonomous:

https://biblehub .net/search.php?q=conscience+heart
1 Timothy 1:5 The goal of this command is love, which comes from a pure heart and a good conscience and a sincere faith. ...
Hebrews 10:22 let us draw near with a true heart in fulness of faith, having our hearts sprinkled from an evil conscience: ....
Job 27:6 My conscience is clear for as long as I live. ...my heart does not reproach me for any of my days. ...
1 Samuel 24:5 But then David's conscience began bothering him because he had cut Saul's robe ... And afterward David?s heart struck him, because he had cut off a corner of...
Genesis 20:6 Then God.... said to him in the dream, "Yes, I know you did this with a clear conscience, and so ... Yes, I know that you have done this in the integrity of your heart, and it ...
1 Samuel 25:31 my lord shall have no cause of grief or pangs of conscience for having shed blood ... this will not cause grief or a troubled heart to my lord, both by having shed ...
2 Samuel 24:10 But after he had taken the census, David's conscience began to bother him. ... But David?s heart struck him after he had numbered the people. ...
1 John 3:20 If our hearts condemn us, we know that God is greater ... condemns us, we will be reassured that God is greater than our conscience and knows ... For if our heart condemns us, God is greater than our heart, and knows all ...
Genesis 20:5 I have done this with a clear conscience and clean hands ... In the integrity of my heart and the innocence of my ...
Psalm 16:7 My conscience warns me at night. ... I will bless the LORD, who has given me counsel: my heart also instructs me in the night seasons. ...
Ecclesiastes 7:22 For you know in your own heart that you also have cursed others many times. ... Your conscience knows that you have cursed others many times. ...
1 John 3:21 Dear friends, if our hearts do not condemn us, we have ... Dear friends, if our conscience doesn't condemn us, we can boldly look to God....
1 Timothy 3:9  holding the mystery of the faith in a pure conscience. ... Keeping the secret of the faith in a heart free from sin. ...
2 Timothy 1:3 I thank God, whom I serve from my forefathers in a pure conscience, how unceasing is ... I give praise to God, whose servant I have been, with a heart free from sin ...

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"the Greek word translated into English as 'hell' is Gehenna"
That's incorrect.  'Gehenna' isn't a Greek word.  It's an Aramaic and Hebrew word.  When translating the NT from Aramaic into Greek, the translators put the Greek word 'Hades' in place of the Aramaic/Hebrew word 'Sheol,' and put a phonetic transliteration in Greek characters of the Aramaic/Hebrew 'Gehenna.'

Do you think God:
exists?
is able to utterly ruin both body and soul in Gehenna?

Matthew 10:28
https://biblehub .com/matthew/10-28.htm
https://biblehub .com/interlinear/matthew/10-28.htm
(Aramaic Bible in Plain English)
"And you shall not be afraid of those who kill the body
that are not able to kill the soul;
rather be afraid of him who can destroy soul and body in Gehenna."
(Young's Literal)
'And be not afraid of those killing the body,
and are not able to kill the soul,
but fear rather Him who is able both soul and body to destroy in gehenna.[Greek:  1067 geennē/ γεέννῃ]

1067. geenna
https://biblehub .com/greek/1067.htm
geenna: Gehenna, a valley W. and South of Jer., also a symbolic name for the final place of punishment of the ungodly
Original Word: γέεννα, ης, ἡ
Part of Speech: Noun, Feminine
Transliteration: geenna
Phonetic Spelling: (gheh'-en-nah)
Definition: Gehenna, a valley west and South of Jerusalem, also a symbolic name for the final place of punishment of the ungodly
Usage: Gehenna, and originally the name of a valley or cavity near Jerusalem, a place underneath the earth, a place of punishment for evil.
HELPS Word-studies
1067 geenna (a transliteration of the Hebrew term, Gehinnōm, "the valley of Hinnom") ? Gehenna....
Word Origin
of Hebrew origin gay and Hinnom

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It sounds like you can't or won't rebut my statement that you made an erroneous claim.

Do you think Sheol:
exists?
has been a place of torment for some?

Luke 16 (Aramaic Bible in Plain English), biblehub
19 "There was a certain rich man, and he wore fine white linen and purple and everyday he celebrated luxuriously." 20 "And there was a certain poor man whose name was Lazar and he lay at the gate of that rich man, being stricken with abscesses." 21 "And he longed to fill his belly with the fragments that fell from the rich man's table, but also the dogs would come licking his abscesses." 22 "But that poor man died and Angels brought him to The Bosom of Abraham. And the rich man also died and he was buried." 23 "And suffering in Sheol, he lifted up his eyes from afar off and he saw Abraham, and Lazar in his bosom." 24 "And he called in a loud voice and he said, 'My father, Abraham, have pity on me and send Lazar to dip the tip of his finger in water and moisten my tongue for me; behold, I am suffering in this flame.' "

Luke 16:23 (Young's Literal) and in the hades having lifted up his eyes, being in torments, he doth see Abraham afar off, and Lazarus in his bosom,

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_Everybody_ has error in their doctrine.  What are the 2 most-egregious errors in Todd White's views?

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"we are not his people"

Do you think [v. 1]"all people" need prayer?  or only some people?  or nobody these days?
Do you think God [v. 4]"wills that all people shall have Life, and shall be converted to the knowledge of the truth"?  or only some people?
Do you think Jesus "gave himself [as] a ransom in the place of every person"?  or only some people?
When Paul says, [v. 7]"I am the Teacher of the Gentiles in the belief of the truth," what is your understanding of "Gentiles"? (people who tried to adhere to the Mosaic law at one point, but had stopped doing so?)

1 Timothy 2 (Aramaic Bible in Plain English)
1 Therefore, I beg of you that before all things, you will offer supplications to God, prayers, intercessions and thanksgiving, for the sake of all people, 2 For the sake of Kings and Rulers, that we may lead a quiet and tranquil way of life in complete reverence to God and purity. 3 For this is pleasing and acceptable before God Our Lifegiver, 4 He who wills that all people shall have Life, and shall be converted to the knowledge of the truth. 5 For God is One, and The Mediator of God and the sons of men is One: The Son of Man, Yeshua The Messiah, 6 Who gave himself [as] a ransom in the place of every person, a testimony that has come in its time, 7 That of which I am appointed a Preacher and an Apostle of the truth. I say and I do not lie, that I am the Teacher of the Gentiles in the belief of the truth.

In Mark 7:27, Jesus said, "Let the children be filled first, for it is not right to take the children's bread and throw it to the dogs."
Were "the children" fully given an opportunity to be filled?

Mark 7 (Aramaic Bible in Plain English)
24 Yeshua arose from there and came to the coast of Tyre and of Sidon, and he entered a certain house and he did not want anyone to know him and he could not be hidden. 25 For immediately a certain woman heard about him, whose daughter had a foul spirit, and she came falling before his feet. 26 But she was a pagan woman from Phoenicia of Syria, and she was begging him to cast out the demon from her daughter. 27 And Yeshua said to her, "Let the children be filled first, for it is not right to take the children's bread and throw it to the dogs." 28 But she answered and said to him, "Yes, my lord, but even the dogs from under the table eat the children's crumbs." 29 Yeshua said to her, "Go; because of this saying the demon has gone out from your daughter." 30 And she went to her house and found her daughter lying in bed, and the demon had been cast out of her.

Jesus was sent to descendants of Abraham Isaac and Jacob.  Shortly before ascending to heaven, to whom did Jesus send his students?
v. 24:  "I am not sent except to the sheep that have strayed from the house of Israel"
Matthew 15 (Aramaic Bible in Plain English)
21 But Yeshua went out from there and he came to the borders of Tsur and of Tsidon. 22 And behold a Canaanitess woman from those borders came forth crying out and she said, "Have pity on me my lord, son of David, my daughter is badly driven by a demon." 23 But he did not give her an answer, and his disciples came and begged him, and they were saying, "Send her away, for she is crying after us." 24 But he answered and said to them, "I am not sent except to the sheep that have strayed from the house of Israel." 25 But she came and worshiped him and she said, "My Lord, help me." 26 He said to her, "It is not good to take the children's bread and cast it to the dogs." 27 But she said, "Yes, my lord, even the dogs eat from the crumbs that fall from their master's table and they live." 28 But then Yeshua said to her, "O woman, great is your faith; it will be done for you as you will." And her daughter was healed from that moment.

In Mt 28:19, what does "all the nations" refer to?
v. 19:  "go disciple all the nations"
Matthew 28 (Aramaic Bible in Plain English)
16 But the eleven disciples went to Galilee to the mountain where Yeshua had appointed them. 17 And when they saw him they worshiped him, but some of them doubted. 18 And Yeshua spoke with them and he said to them, "All authority has been given to me in Heaven and in the earth; in the manner in which my Father has sent me, I am sending you." 19 "Therefore go disciple all the nations and baptize them in the name of The Father and The Son and The Spirit of Holiness." 20 "And instruct them to keep everything whatever I have commanded you, and behold, I am with you every day, even unto the end of time. Amen"

In Mk 16:15, Jesus said, "Go to the entire world and preach my Good News in all creation."  What does "the entire world" refer to?
Mark 16 (Aramaic Bible in Plain English)
14 But afterward, he appeared to the eleven when they reclined at a meal and he condemned the lack of their faith and the callousness of their heart, because they had not believed them who had seen him before. 15 And he said to them, "Go to the entire world and preach my Good News in all creation." 16 "Whoever believes and is baptized has life, and whoever does not believe is condemned." 17 "But these signs will accompany these who believe: in my name they will cast out demons, and they will speak in new languages." 18 "And they will take up snakes, and if they should drink lethal poison, it will not harm them, and they will place their hands on the sick and they will be healed."
19 But Yeshua Our Lord, after he was speaking with them, ascended into Heaven, and he sat down at the right side of God. 20 But they went forth and they preached in every place, and Our Lord was helping them and confirming their words with the signs that they were doing.

In Lk 24:47, what does "all the nations" refer to?
v. 47: "And that conversion to the forgiveness of sins would be proclaimed in his name in all the nations"
Luke 24 (Aramaic Bible in Plain English)
44 And he said to them, "These are the words that I spoke with you when I was with you, that everything that is written about me in The Law of Moses and in The Prophets and in The Psalms must be fulfilled." 45 Then he opened their mind to understand the scriptures. 46 And he said to them, "Thus it is written: and thus it was right for The Messiah to suffer and to arise from the grave the third day, 47 And that conversion to the forgiveness of sins would be proclaimed in his name in all the nations, and the beginning would be at Jerusalem. 48And you are witnesses of these things. 49And I shall send upon you The Promise of my Father; but you stay in the city of Jerusalem until you shall be clothed in power from on high."

In Acts 1:8, what does "unto the borders of The Earth" refer to?
Acts 1 (Aramaic Bible in Plain English)
6 But when they were assembled, they asked him and said to him, "Our Lord, are you at this time restoring The Kingdom to Israel?" 7 He said to them, "It is not yours to know the times or seasons which The Father has placed in his authority." 8 "But when The Spirit of Holiness will come upon you, you shall receive power. You shall be witnesses to me in Jerusalem and in all Judea, and also among the Samaritans, and unto the borders of The Earth."

In Mt 24:14, what is referred to by:  "the whole world"?  "all the nations"?
v. 14: "this gospel of the Kingdom will be preached in the whole world for the testimony of all the nations"
Matthew 24 (Aramaic Bible in Plain English)
9 And then they will deliver you to suffering, and they will kill you and you will be hated by all the nations because of my name. 10 Then many will be subverted, and they will hate one another and will betray one another. 11 And many false Prophets will arise and will deceive many. 12 And because of the abundance of evil, the love of many will grow cold. 13 But whoever will persevere until the end will have life. 14 And this gospel of the Kingdom will be preached in the whole world for the testimony of all the nations and then the end will come. 15 But whenever you will see the desecrated sign of desolation that was spoken by Daniel the Prophet, standing in the holy place, (he who reads should consider) 16 Then those who are in Judea should flee to the mountains.

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In the passage below, who does "the nations" refer to?

Malachi [My Messenger] 1 (NIV), biblehub
10 "Oh, that one of you would shut the temple doors, so that you would not light useless fires on my altar! I am not pleased with you," says the LORD Almighty, "and I will accept no offering from your hands. 11 My name will be great among the nations, from where the sun rises to where it sets. In every place incense and pure offerings will be brought to me, because my name will be great among the nations," says the LORD Almighty.
12 "But you profane it by saying, 'The Lord's table is defiled,' and, 'Its food is contemptible.' 13 And you say, 'What a burden!' and you sniff at it contemptuously," says the LORD Almighty.
"When you bring injured, lame or diseased animals and offer them as sacrifices, should I accept them from your hands?" says the LORD. 14 "Cursed is the cheat who has an acceptable male in his flock and vows to give it, but then sacrifices a blemished animal to the Lord. For I am a great king," says the LORD Almighty, "and my name is to be feared among the nations.

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In Ezekiel 36:18-23, who does "the nations" refer to?
Do you think this v. 23 claim proved accurate?:  "the nations will know that I am the LORD"

Ezekiel 36 (NIV)
https://biblehub.com/niv/ezekiel/36.htm
18 So I poured out my wrath on them
because they had shed blood in the land
and because they had defiled it with their idols.
19 I dispersed them among the nations,
and they were scattered through the countries;
I judged them according to their conduct and their actions.
20 And wherever they went among the nations
they profaned my holy name, for it was said of them,
'These are the LORD's people,
and yet they had to leave his land.'
21 I had concern for my holy name,
which the people of Israel profaned
among the nations where they had gone.
22 "Therefore say to the Israelites,
'This is what the Sovereign LORD says:
It is not for your sake, people of Israel, that I am going to do these things,
but for the sake of my holy name,
which you have profaned among the nations where you have gone.
23 I will show the holiness of my great name,
which has been profaned among the nations,
the name you have profaned among them.
Then the nations will know that I am the LORD,
declares the Sovereign LORD,
when I am proved holy through you before their eyes.

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"Jesus came for his own people, Israel"
Do you think it's a true statement that "Jesus the Messiah came into the world to give life to sinners"?

1Timothy 1:15, dukhrana.com
(Etheridge) Faithful is the word, and worthy of reception that
Jeshu the Meshiha came into the world to save sinners, of whom I am first.
(Murdock) Faithful is the declaration, and worthy to be received, that
Jesus the Messiah came into the world to give life to sinners, of whom I was the primary.

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When Paul was in Athens trying to persuade Epicureans and Stoics, do you think Paul believed he was talking with people that at one point had tried to adhere to the Mosaic law, but had since ceased trying to adhere?
Do _you_ believe the Epicureans and Stoics that Paul spoke with in Athens were "old covenant Israelites"?

Do you think God currently wants people everywhere to [v. 27]"be seeking and inquiring after God"?
Do you think [v. 30]"God has banished the times of deception, and at this time he commands all the children of men: 'Everyone in every place shall return to God.'"?
Do you think [v. 31]"he [God] has raised him [Jesus] from among the dead"?

Acts 17 (Aramaic Bible in Plain English), biblehub
16 But while Paulus remained in Athens, he was provoked in his spirit when he saw that the whole city was full of idols. 17 And he was speaking in a synagogue with the Jews and with those who were worshipers of God and in the market place with those who gathered everyday. 18 Also philosophers from the school of Epicurus and others who are called Stoics were debating with him and some of them were saying, "What does this collector of words want?" And others were saying, "He is proclaiming foreign gods", because he was proclaiming Yeshua and his resurrection to them. 19 And they took him and brought him to the place of judgment, which is called Arios-Pagos, while they were saying to him, "Can we know what this new teaching is that you proclaim?" 20 "For you have sown strange words in our hearing and we wish to know what these things are." 21 But all the Athenians and those foreigners who come there are concerned about nothing except to tell and to hear something new.

22 And when Paulus arose in Arios-Pagos, he said, "Men, Athenians, I see that in all things you excel in the worship of daemons." 23 "For as I was going around and beholding your temples, I found one altar on which it was written: "The Unknown God"; him therefore whom you do not know and yet worship, I proclaim to you." 24 "For The God who made the world, and everything whatsoever is in it, and is the Lord of the Heavens and of The Earth, does not dwell in temples made with hands." 25 "And he is not served by the hands of men, and he has no need of anything, because he gives every person life and a soul." 26 "And from one blood he made the whole world of humanity to be dwelling on the whole surface of The Earth and he marked out the times in his decrees and set the coasts of the dwelling places of humanity," 27 "So that they would be seeking and inquiring after God; and they may find him by his creation, because also he is not far from everyone of us." 28 "For it is by him that we have life and we move and exist; so also some of the wise men among you have said: "Our lineage is from him." 29 "Men, therefore, because our lineage is from God, we ought not to think that gold or silver or stone carved by the skill and knowledge of a man is like The Godhead." 30 "For God has banished the times of deception, and at this time he commands all the children of men: 'Everyone in every place shall return to God.'" 31 "Because he has appointed the day in which he is going to judge the whole Earth in righteousness by the man whom he has designated and he has turned everyone to his faith in that he has raised him from among the dead."

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At one point, Paul was busy [v. 4]"persuading the Jews and the Pagans."  Do you believe Paul thought those pagans were people who at one point had tried to adhere to the Mosaic law, but had since ceased trying to adhere?

At one point, Paul was opposed by Judeans who rejected his claim that that Yeshua is The Messiah,
and Paul said he would [v. 6]"go to the Gentiles." Do you believe Paul thought those gentiles were people who at one point had tried to adhere to the Mosaic law, but had since ceased trying to adhere?

Acts 18 (Aramaic Bible in Plain English)
4 And he was speaking in the synagogue on every Sabbath and was persuading the Jews and the Pagans.  5 And when Shila and Timotheaus had come from Macedonia, Paulus was constrained in the word because the Jews were opposing him and blaspheming as he was testifying to them that Yeshua is The Messiah. 6 And he shook his clothes and he said to them, "From now on I am clean; I myself go to the Gentiles."

Acts 18:5
http://dukhrana.com/peshi tta/analyze_verse.php?lang=en&verse=Acts+18:5&source=khabouris&font=Estrangelo+Edessa&size=125%25
(Etheridge) And when from Makedunia Shilo and Timotheos had come, Paulos was constrained in his speech, because the Jihudoyee arose against him and blasphemed, while he testified to them that Jeshu is the Meshiha.

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When Paul preached to the palace guard soldiers guarding him, do you think Paul believed he was preaching to biological descendants of Abraham Isaac and Jacob?

Philippians 1 (Young's Literal)
12 And I wish you to know, brethren, that the things concerning me, rather to an advancement of the good news have come, 13 so that my bonds have become manifest in Christ in the whole praetorium, and to the other places-- all, 14 and the greater part of the brethren in the Lord, having confidence by my bonds, are more abundantly bold-- fearlessly to speak the word.

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When Paul preached to the prison warden, do you think Paul believed he was preaching to a biological descendant of Abraham Isaac and Jacob?

Acts 16 (Aramaic Bible in Plain English)
27 And when the Keeper of the prison was awakened and he saw that the doors of the prison were open, he took a sword and sought to kill himself because he thought that the prisoners had escaped. 28 And Paulus called him in a loud voice and he said to him, "Do no harm to yourself, because we are all here." 29 And he lit a lamp and he leaped and entered, trembling, and he fell before the feet of Paulus and of Shila, 30 And he brought them outside and he said to them, "Sirs, what must I do so that I may live?"
31 And they said to him, "Trust in Our Lord Yeshua The Messiah, and you shall live, you and your household." 32 And they spoke with him the word of THE LORD JEHOVAH, and with all the people of his household.

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"Paul.... believed that anyone who believed the gospel was a descendant of the tribes of Israel"
Reference?
In Paul's view, was a person's biological ancestry an important matter?

Titus 3:9 (YLT)
and foolish questions, and genealogies, and contentions, and strivings about law, stand away from-- for they are unprofitable and vain.

1 Timothy 1:3-5 (NKJV)
3 As I urged you when I went into Macedonia-- remain in Ephesus that you may charge some that they teach no other doctrine, 4 nor give heed to fables and endless genealogies, which cause disputes rather than godly edification which is in faith. 

Philippians 3 (Aramaic Bible in Plain English), biblehub
2 Beware of dogs; beware of evildoers; beware of the circumcisers. 3 For we are the circumcision, those who serve God in The Spirit, and we glory in Yeshua The Messiah, and we do not trust upon the flesh, 4 As I did have trust in the flesh, for if a man has hoped in his trust in the flesh, I have more than he: 5 Circumcised on the eighth day, of the family of Israel, from the tribe of Benjamin, a Hebrew, son of a Hebrew, in the Law, a Pharisee; 6 In zeal, a persecutor of the church, in righteousness of The Written Law I was without indictment.
7 But these things that were advantages to me, I have accounted losses for the sake of The Messiah. 8 I also consider all these things a loss for the majesty of the knowledge of Yeshua The Messiah, my Lord, him for whose sake I have lost everything, and I consider it all as a dung heap, that I may gain The Messiah, 9 And be found in him, while I do not have my own righteousness, which is from The Written Law, but that which is from the faith of The Messiah, which is the righteousness that is from God, ....

Colossians 3 (Aramaic Bible in Plain English)
8 But now put off from you all these things: anger, fury, wickedness, blasphemy, impure speech; 9 Neither should you cheat one another, but put off the old man with all of his ways, 10 And put on the new, who is made new by knowledge in the image of his Creator, 11 Where there is neither Jew nor Aramaean, neither circumcision nor uncircumcision, neither Greeks nor Barbarians, neither Servant nor Freeman, but The Messiah is all and in every person.

Galatians 3 (Aramaic Bible in Plain English)
21 Is therefore The Written Law contrary to The Promise of God? God forbid! For if a law had been given which was able to give life, truly righteousness would have been by The Written Law. 22 But the Scripture has shut all things up under sin, that The Promise by the faith of Yeshua The Messiah would be given to those who are believers.
23 But until the faith would come, The Written Law had kept us while we were closed off to the faith that was going to be revealed. 24 The Written Law was therefore a guide for us to The Messiah that we would be made right by faith. 25 But when the faith came we were not under a guide.
26 For you are all children of God by the faith of Yeshua The Messiah. 27 For those who have been baptized into The Messiah have put on The Messiah. 28 There is neither Jew nor Aramaean, neither Servant nor Free person, neither male nor female, for all of you are one in Yeshua The Messiah. 29 And if you are of The Messiah, you are therefore the seed of Abraham and heirs by The Promise.

1 Corinthians 12 (Aramaic Bible in Plain English)
12 For in like manner, because the body is one and there are many members in it, while all of them are many members, they are one body; thus also is The Messiah. 13 For we also are baptized by The One Spirit into one body, whether Jews or Aramaeans or Servants or free men, and we are all made to drink The One Spirit.

"the HS was ONLY promised to Israel"

Acts 10:45 says that "circumcised brethren who had come with him [Peter] were stupefied and astonished that the gift of The Spirit of Holiness was poured forth also upon Gentiles."  Do you believe those "Gentiles" were biological descendants of Abraham Isaac and Jacob?

When Peter preached to the centurion Cornelius & those Cornelius had assembled, do you think Peter believed he was preaching to biological descendants of Abraham Isaac and Jacob?

Do you think Jesus [v. 42]"was appointed by God to be The Judge of the living and of the dead"?
Do you think [v. 43]"that everyone who believes in his [Jesus'] Name will receive forgiveness of sins"?

Acts 10 (Aramaic Bible in Plain English), biblehub
1 But in Qesaria was a certain man, a Centurion whose name was Cornelius, from the regiment which is called Italiqa. 2 And he was righteous and was a worshiper of God, he and his whole house, and he did great charitable work among the people and always prayed to God.  ....  22 They said to him [Simon Peter], "A certain man whose name is Cornelius, a good Centurion and worshiper of God, for whom all the people of the Jews vouch, was told in a vision by a holy Angel to send and bring you to his house and hear a message from you." ....
28 And he [Peter] said to them [Cornelius & those Cornelius had gathered], "You know that a man who is of the Jews is not allowed to join a foreign person, who is not one of his race [better word needed there  -d]. God has shown me that I should not say that a man is unclean or defiled." ....
34 But Shimeon opened his mouth and he said, "In truth, I understand that God is no respecter of persons. 35 But among all nations, whoever worships him and works righteousness is acceptable to him. 36 For [this is] the word which he sent to the children of Israel and announced good news of peace and tranquility to them by Yeshua The Messiah, (This One is LORD JEHOVAH of all), 37 You also are aware of the word that has come to all Judea, which went out from Galilee after the baptism that Yohannan preached, 38 About Yeshua who was from Nazareth, whom God anointed with The Spirit of Holiness and with power, and he was traveling and healing those injured by The Evil One, because God was with him.
....
42 And he [Jesus] commanded us to preach and to testify to the people that This is He who was appointed by God to be The Judge of the living and of the dead. 43 And all The Prophets have borne him witness, that everyone who believes in his Name will receive forgiveness of sins."
44 And when Shimeon was speaking these words, The Spirit of Holiness rested on all of those who were hearing the word. 45 And circumcised brethren who had come with him were stupefied and astonished that the gift of The Spirit of Holiness was poured forth also upon Gentiles, 46 For they heard them speaking in various languages and magnifying God, and Shimeon was saying: 47 "Can anyone refuse water that they should not be baptized? For, behold, they have received The Spirit of Holiness, as when we did." 48 Then he commanded them to be baptized in the name of Our Lord Yeshua The Messiah, and they begged him to stay with them for some days.

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"Paul's audience in all of his letters were descendants of the tribes of Israel"
How do you know?-- how'd you come to that conclusion?
Do you think Paul's audience in all of his preaching was descendants of the tribes of Israel?
Do you think Paul hoped that both Felix and Dursilla would heed his words?  or only Dursilla?

Acts 24 (Aramaic Bible in Plain English)
24 And after a few days, Felix, and Dursilla his Jewish wife, sent and called Paulus and heard from him concerning the faith of The Messiah, 25 And as he was speaking with them of righteousness, of holiness and of the judgment that was to come, Felix was afraid and he said, "Go now, and when I have a space I will send for you." 26 For he had hoped that a bribe would have been given to him by Paulus; because of this, also, he was continually sending to bring him and speaking with him. 27 And when two years were completed, the next Governor had come in his place, who is called Porqius-Festus, but Felix, in order to do a favor for the Jews, left Paulus as a prisoner.

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"anyone who was Christ's was a physical descendant of the tribes of Israel"
Do you think God declared people righteous:
by faith?
by faith + by their having the right biological ancestry?

Romans 3 (Aramaic Bible in Plain English), biblehub
28 We determine therefore that by faith a man is made righteous and not by the works of The Written Law. 29 Is he The God of the Jews only? Is he not also of the Gentiles? Yes, of the Gentiles also. 30 Because God is One, who declares the circumcision righteous by faith and also the uncircumcision by faith.

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Israelites were provided with the opportunity to receive what had been promised long ago to them, their Messiah. However, far too many Israelites refused the gift they were offered.  In response, God offered the gift of the God-man the Messiah to non-Israelites.  With the Messiah comes the Holy Spirit, both being part of the godhead.

Matthew 21 (Aramaic Bible in Plain English)
33 "Hear another parable: there was a certain man, a landowner, and he had planted a vineyard enclosed by a fence and he had dug a wine press and had built a tower in it, and had given its care to laborers, and he went abroad." 34 "But when the fruit season had arrived, he sent his servants to the laborers so that they would send some of the fruit of the vineyard to him." 35 "And the laborers seized his servants; they beat one and another they stoned and another they killed." 36 "And he sent again more servants than the first time, and they did the same to them." 37 Finally, he sent to them his son as he said, 'Doubtless they will reverence my son.'" 38 "But when the laborers saw the son, they said among themselves, 'This is the heir, come, let us kill him and seize his inheritance.'" 39 "And they seized and led him outside of the vineyard and killed him." 40 "Therefore when the Lord of the vineyard comes, what will he do to those laborers?" 41 They said to him, "He will ruthlessly destroy them and he will give the care of the vineyard to other laborers, who will give him the fruits in their season."

42 Yeshua said to them, "Have you never read in the scriptures, 'The stone which the builders rejected has become the head of the corner; this was from the presence of THE LORD JEHOVAH, and it is a wonder in our eyes.'"?
43 "Therefore, I say to you, the Kingdom of God will be taken from you and will be given to a people who will produce fruit." 44 "And whoever falls on this stone will be shattered, and it will pulverize to dust everyone upon whom it will fall."

45 And when the Chief Priests and the Pharisees heard his parables, they knew that he had spoken against them. 46 And they sought to seize him and they were afraid of the crowds, because they were holding him as a Prophet.

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"Those Paul was writing to were also those he was writing about"
So Paul's 1 Timothy letter was written to murderers, fornicators, and "males who lie down with males"?

1 Timothy 1 (Aramaic Bible in Plain English)
8 But we know that The Written Law is good if a man will be led by it, according to The Written Law, 9 While he knows that The Written Law was not appointed for the righteous, but for the evil, the rebellious, the wicked, for sinners, for the vicious, for those who are impure, for those who strike their fathers, those who strike their mothers, for murderers, 10 For fornicators, for males who lie down with males, for kidnappers of free men, for liars, for oath breakers and for all things opposed to the sound teaching 11 Of The Good News of the glory of the Blessed God, with which I have been entrusted.

"Gentiles (ethnos / nations, tribes, people) who received the Spirit, were saved, adopted, grafted in, co-heirs etc etc were first century descendants of the tribes of Israel who had been dispersed among the nations. They were called 'nations' (ethnos) by Jews because they had stopped being Torah observant, had stopped practicing circumcision and were considered entirely different nations on account of their adoption of pagan practices. That's who Paul's audience was in all of his letters, gentile descendants of the tribes of Israel"

In the passage below, who does "the nations" refer to?

Malachi [My Messenger] 1 (NIV), biblehub
10 "Oh, that one of you would shut the temple doors, so that you would not light useless fires on my altar! I am not pleased with you," says the LORD Almighty, "and I will accept no offering from your hands. 11 My name will be great among the nations, from where the sun rises to where it sets. In every place incense and pure offerings will be brought to me, because my name will be great among the nations," says the LORD Almighty.
12 "But you profane it by saying, 'The Lord's table is defiled,' and, 'Its food is contemptible.' 13 And you say, 'What a burden!' and you sniff at it contemptuously," says the LORD Almighty.
"When you bring injured, lame or diseased animals and offer them as sacrifices, should I accept them from your hands?" says the LORD. 14 "Cursed is the cheat who has an acceptable male in his flock and vows to give it, but then sacrifices a blemished animal to the Lord. For I am a great king," says the LORD Almighty, "and my name is to be feared among the nations.

"Gentiles who had no link to old covenant Israel, like people today, were never under the law, not imputed with sin, not in danger of an imminent judgement and didn't need salvation"

Do you think the people of Ninevah, and the people of Sodom, and the people that died in the Flood, were:
Israelites?
said to be sinners?
never said to be sinners?
subject to judgement?
never in any danger of any judgement?

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Paul preached to King Agrippa and told King Agrippa that Paul had [v. 20]"preached also to the Gentiles that they repent and be converted to God and to do deeds worthy of a return to God."

Do you really believe that King Agrippa, Governor Festus, Berniqi and the Gentiles that Paul preached to, and Caesar who Paul planned to preach to, were all descendants of Abraham Isaac and Jacob?

Do you think it's possible to "receive release from sins and a portion with The Holy Ones by the faith which is in me [Jesus]"?

Acts 26 (Aramaic Bible in Plain English, with editing of the quotation marks)
15 And I said,
"Who are you my lord?"
And Our Lord said to me,
"I am Yeshua the Nazarene, whom you are persecuting."
16 And he said to me,
"Rise to your feet; for this cause I have appeared to you, to appoint you a minister and a witness that you have seen me and are going to see me. 17 But I shall save you from the people of the Judeans and from the other nations to which I am sending you, 18 That you will open their eyes, so that they will turn from the darkness to the light and from the authority of Satan to God; and they shall receive release from sins and a portion with The Holy Ones by the faith which is in me."

19 "Because of this, King Agrippa, I did not stand in dispute against the Heavenly vision. 20 But from the first I preached to those in Darmsuq, and to those in Jerusalem and those in all the villages of Judea, and I preached also to the Gentiles that they repent and be converted to God and to do deeds worthy of a return to God."
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28 Agrippa said to him,
"In a little bit you will persuade me to become a Christian."
29 Paulus said,
"I have desired from God in a little and in much, not for you only, but also for all those who are hearing me now to be like me, except for these chains."
30 And The King stood for him, and the Governor and Berniqi and those who were sitting with them.  .... 32 And Agrippa said to Festus,
"This man could have been released if he had not appealed to Caesar."

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"The broken off branches were the unbelieving Jews: Pharisees, Sadducees, and priests"
Unbelieving in who or what? 
Were those of the wild olive tree "unbelieving Jews"?

I'm trying to understand your position.  It seems thus far that you're saying 2 of the 3 categories are unbelieving Jews.  Am I understanding you correctly?

The broken off branches are those who rejected Jesus as being the long-awaited, promised Messiah.

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"The three groups consists of believing Jews such as Paul and the other disciples;
broken off branches consist of unbelieving Jews such as the Pharisees, Sadducees, and priests;
and the third group is the wild Olive tree which is the scattered Israelites (diaspora)"

Into which category/categories would fall the Jews and Aramaeans mentioned here?:

Acts 19 (Aramaic Bible in Plain English)
8 And Paulus was entering the synagogue and he was speaking publicly three months and persuading concerning The Kingdom of God. 9 Some of them were hardened and were disputing and reviling the way of God before the assembly of the Gentiles; then Paulus left and he separated the disciples from them and was speaking every day with them in the school of a man whose name was Turanos. 10 And this continued for two years until all who dwelt in Asia heard the word of THE LORD JEHOVAH, Jews and Aramaeans.

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"Cornelius was an Israelite"
Reference?

"A prophecy of the Holy Spirit being given to non-Israelites would be in the old covenant"
I'm not aware of such in the old covenant.  I'm not even aware of an old covenant promise to give the Holy Spirit to Israelites-- are you?
I'm also not aware of an old covenant mention of the Holy Spirit-- are you?

Acts 19 (Aramaic Bible in Plain English)
1 And when Apollo was in Corinthus, Paulus went about in the upper countries and came to Ephesaus, and was questioning those disciples whom he had found there: 2 "Have you received The Spirit of Holiness since you have believed?" They answered, and were saying to him, "We have not even heard if there is a Spirit of Holiness." 3 And he said to them, "Unto what were you baptized?" They were saying, "Unto the baptism of Yohannan". 4 Paulus said to them, "Yohannan baptized the people in the baptism of repentance while he was telling them to believe in that One who would come after him, who is Yeshua The Messiah." 5 And when they heard these things, they were baptized in the name of Our Lord Yeshua The Messiah. 6 And Paulus laid a hand on them and The Spirit of Holiness came upon them, and they were speaking in various languages and were prophesying. 7 But they were all of twelve men.

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In which category/categories were the below-mentioned:
Jews before they talked with Paul?
Jews who accepted what Paul had to say?
Jews who rejected what Paul had to say?
Gentiles?

Verses 30-31 say Paul "was receiving... all of those who were coming to him. And he was preaching about The Kingdom of God, and teaching publicly about Our Lord Yeshua The Messiah without hindrance." 
Do you think Paul:
preached only to those Israelites that came to him?
preached to anyone and everyone of whatever biological extraction that came to him?

Acts 28 (Aramaic Bible in Plain English, with edits to the quotation marks)
1 And after this we learned that this island was called Melita. 2 And the Barbarians who were dwelling in it showed us great kindness and kindled a fire and called us all to warm ourselves, because there was much cold rain.  ....
11 But we went out after three months and journeyed in an Alexandrian ship which had harbored at that island....
16 And we entered Rome and the Centurion allowed Paulus to dwell where he wanted with the Soldier who was guarding him.
17 And after three days, Paulus sent to call the Rulers of the Jews. When they assembled, he said to them,
"Men, brothers, while in nothing have I opposed the people or the law of my fathers, I was handed over in chains from Jerusalem into the hands of the Romans. 18 And when they had examined me, they wished to release me, because the Rulers found nothing in me deserving death. 19 And as the Jews were opposing me, I was compelled to call for an appeal to Caesar, not as if I had any accusation against the children of my people. 20 Therefore, I begged of you to come and to see you and relate to you these things, because for the hope of Israel I am bound in this chain."

21 And they said to him,
"We have not received a letter about you from Judea, neither has anyone of the brethren who came from Jerusalem told us anything evil about you. 22 But we desire to hear from you what you think, because we know this teaching is not accepted by anyone."

23 And they appointed a day for him, and they gathered and many came to him where he was dwelling. And he revealed to them concerning The Kingdom of God as he testified and persuaded them concerning Yeshua from The Law of Moses and from The Prophets, from morning until evening. 24 And some of them were persuaded by his words and others were not persuaded. 25 And they were dismissed from his presence, not agreeing with one another, and Paulus spoke this word to them:

"Well spoke The Spirit of Holiness, saying by the mouth of Isaiah The Prophet against your fathers, 26 Saying,
'Go to this people and say to them,
Hearing, you will hear and you will not understand,
and you will see and you will not observe.
27 The heart of this people has become hard,
their hearing they have dulled
and their eyes they have shut,
lest they shall see with their eyes and hear with their ears and understand in their hearts and turn to me and I would forgive them.'

28 Know this, therefore: This salvation of God is sent to the Gentiles, for they are listening to it."

29 And when he had said these things, the Jews went forth and many were debating among themselves.
30 And Paulus himself lived in his own hired house and was in it for two years; and he was receiving there all of those who were coming to him. 31 And he was preaching about The Kingdom of God, and teaching publicly about Our Lord Yeshua The Messiah without hindrance.

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Randal Nuss
It's important to note the "sons of the living God" moniker. Adam was a son of God, but lost his legal "sonship". At that point, all Yahwists became servants for God, not sons. The sonship for believers wasn't restored until Christ. You'll notice in the New Testament, Christians were being referred to as sons of a God again.
Therefore:
1. Any non-Yawist was not a son of God
2. Any non-Yahwist who became a Christian also became a son of God through Christ.
3. Any Yahwist who refused Christ did not become a son of God.
4. Only the remnants of the scattered tribes who became Christians became sons of God.

Remember what triggered the scattering of the tribes was the King of Israel's embracing foreign deities. It stands to reason that there were still loyal Yahwists within Israel's congregation. But with God's policy of imputation, all of Israel got scattered. Not all of them were going to listen to the Gospel.

Do you think [Romans 9 v. 8]"the children of the flesh are the children of God"?
Do you think [v. 8]"the children of The Promise are accounted for the seed," i.e., "the children of The Promise are" considered "the children of God"?

Do you agree that [v. 8]"the children of God" are [v. 24]"called, not only from the Jews but also from the Gentiles"?
Do you agree that at one point, non-Israelites were considered 'not God's people'?  v. 25-26: 
'Just as it says also in Hosea: "I shall call those who were not my people, 'My people', and you who were not beloved, 'Beloved'.  For it shall be in the place where they were called, 'Not my people', there they shall be called 'children of THE LIVING GOD.' '

Do you agree that [v. 30]"the Gentiles, who did not run after righteousness have obtained righteousness, even the righteousness which is from faith"?

Romans 9 (Aramaic Bible in Plain English), biblehub
1 I speak the truth in The Messiah, and I do not lie; my conscience bears witness to me in The Spirit of Holiness, 2 That I have great unceasing sorrow and affliction from my heart, 3 For I have been praying that I myself might be destroyed from The Messiah, for the sake of my brethren and my kinsman, who are in the flesh, 4 Who are the children of Israel, whose was the adoption of children, the glory, The Covenant, The Written Law, the ministry which is in it, The Promises, 5 And the Patriarchs; and from them The Messiah appeared in the flesh, who is The God Who is over all, to Whom are praises and blessings to the eternity of eternities, amen.
6 But it was not that the word of God had failed, for they were not all of Israel, who are Israel; 7 Neither because they are of his seed are they all children of Abraham, because it was said, "In Isaac your seed shall be called." 8 But this is not because the children of the flesh are the children of God, but the children of The Promise are accounted for the seed. 9 For The Promise is this word: "At this time, I will come and Sarah will have a son."
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14 What shall we say, therefore? Is there evil with God? God forbid! 15 Behold, he said also to Moses, "I shall show love on whomever I love, and I shall take pity on whomever I pity." ....  18 So then, he shows compassion on whomever he will, and whomever he will, he hardens.
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22 But if God was willing to show his wrath and reveal his power, bringing wrath with a multitude of patience against vessels of wrath that were perfected for destruction, 23 And his love overflowed on the vessels of compassion that were prepared by God for glory;

24 For we are called, not only from the Jews but also from the Gentiles.
25 Just as it says also in Hosea:
"I shall call those who were not my people, 'My people',
and you who were not beloved, 'Beloved'.
26 For it shall be in the place where they were called, 'Not my people',
there they shall be called 'children of THE LIVING GOD.' "

27 But Isaiah preached against the children of Israel: "If the number of the children of Israel is as the sand of the sea, a remnant of them shall be saved." 28 He has cut the matter short and has cut it off; THE LORD JEHOVAH shall do it upon The Earth.
29 And as that which Isaiah said before: "If THE LORD JEHOVAH of Hosts had not left survivors, we would have been like Sadom and we would have been like Amorah.

30 What shall we say, therefore? The Gentiles, who did not run after righteousness have obtained righteousness, even the righteousness which is from faith, 31 But Israel that had run after The Written Law of righteousness did not obtain the Law of righteousness.[replaced a '?' with a '.'] 32 Why? Because it was not from faith, but from the works of The Written Law, for they were stumbled at the stumbling stone, 33 As it is written:
"Behold. I have laid down in Zion a stumbling stone and a stone of offense and whoever will believe in him will not be disappointed."

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Do you agree with Paul that many Israelites [Romans 10 v. 3]"have not known the righteousness of God, but they have sought to establish their own righteousness, and therefore they have not submitted to the righteousness of God"?
Have you yourself [v. 3]"sought to establish" your "own righteousness"?

Do you agree that [v. 4]"the Messiah is the consummation of The Written Law for righteousness to everyone who believes"?

Do you agree that [v. 9]"if you will confess with your mouth Our Lord Yeshua, and you will believe in your heart that God has raised him from the dead, you shall have life"?

Do you agree that [v. 10]"the heart that believes in him [Jesus] is made right, and the mouth that confesses him has life"?

Do you agree that God [v. 12]"makes no distinction in this, not for the Jews, neither for the Aramaeans, for he is The One LORD JEHOVAH to all of them, who is rich with everyone who calls to him"?
Do you agree that God [v. 13]"everyone who will call [on] the name of THE LORD JEHOVAH shall be saved"/ shall have life?

Do you agree with God's remark that he [v. 20]"appeared to those who did not seek me and I was found by those who did not ask for me"?-- even as [v. 21]"to Israel he said, 'I reached my hands out all day to a contentious and disobedient people.'"

Romans 10 (Aramaic Bible in Plain English)
1 My brethren, the desire of my heart and my petition before God is on their behalf that they would have life. 2 For I bear witness to them, that they do have zeal for God, but not by knowledge. 3 For they have not known the righteousness of God, but they have sought to establish their own righteousness, and therefore they have not submitted to the righteousness of God. 4 For The Messiah is the consummation of The Written Law for righteousness to everyone who believes.
5 For Moses wrote in this way of the righteousness which is in The Written Law: "Whoever shall do these things shall live in them."
6 But the righteousness which is in faith says thus: "You shall not say in your heart, 'Who ascended to Heaven and sent down The Messiah?', 7 'And who went down to The Abyss of Sheol and brought up The Messiah from among the dead?'" 8 But what does it say? "The answer is near your mouth and your heart." This is the word of the faith that we preach. 9 And if you will confess with your mouth Our Lord Yeshua, and you will believe in your heart that God has raised him from the dead, you shall have life. 10 For the heart that believes in him is made right, and the mouth that confesses him has life. 11 For the Scriptures say,
"Everyone who believes in him will be unashamed."
12 And he makes no distinction in this, not for the Jews, neither for the Aramaeans, for he is The One LORD JEHOVAH to all of them, who is rich with everyone who calls to him.
13 "For everyone who will call [on] the name of THE LORD JEHOVAH shall be saved." [see Joel 2:32]
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16 But not all have submitted to the message of The Gospel, as Isaiah said,
"My Lord, who believes our report?"
17 Therefore faith is from the hearing ear, and the hearing ear is from the word of God.
18 But I say, "Have they not heard?", and,
"Behold, their report has gone out into all The Earth and their words to the ends of the world.'"
19 But I say, "Did not Israel know beforehand?" Moses spoke thus:
"I shall make you jealous by a people that is not a people and by a people that is disobedient I shall anger you."
20 But Isaiah was bold and he said,
"I appeared to those who did not seek me and I was found by those who did not ask for me."
21 But to Israel he said,
"I reached my hands out all day to a contentious and disobedient people."

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"explain"
In Romans 11, Paul discusses 3 categories of people:
1) the never-broken-off, still-attached branches: Jewish individuals who accepted that Jesus was the Messiah,
2) the broken-off branches: Jewish individuals who rejected Jesus as being the Messiah, and
3) from the "wild olive tree":  pagans/heathens/gentiles.

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"'wild Olive tree' are the scattered Israelites"
Are they:
"believing Jews"?
"unbelieving Jews"?

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When Daniel 2 speaks of a [v. 35]"rock that... became a huge mountain and filled the whole earth," and says [v. 44]"the God of heaven will set up a kingdom that will never be destroyed, nor will it be left to another people. It will crush all those kingdoms and bring them to an end, but it will itself endure forever," do you believe that that God-instituted kingdom was to reign over:
believing Jews?
unbelieving Jews?
Jews outside of Judea?
everybody?

Daniel 2 (NIV), https://biblehub.com/niv/daniel/2.htm
34 While you were watching, a rock was cut out, but not by human hands. It struck the statue on its feet of iron and clay and smashed them. 35 Then the iron, the clay, the bronze, the silver and the gold were all broken to pieces and became like chaff on a threshing floor in the summer. The wind swept them away without leaving a trace. But the rock that struck the statue became a huge mountain and filled the whole earth. 36 "This was the dream, and now we will interpret it to the king.  ....
44 "In the time of those kings, the God of heaven will set up a kingdom that will never be destroyed, nor will it be left to another people. It will crush all those kingdoms and bring them to an end, but it will itself endure forever. 45 This is the meaning of the vision of the rock cut out of a mountain, but not by human hands-- a rock that broke the iron, the bronze, the clay, the silver and the gold to pieces.
"The great God has shown the king what will take place in the future. The dream is true and its interpretation is trustworthy."

When Daniel 7 speaks of someone [v. 13-14]"as a son of man" coming "with the clouds of the heavens.... and to him is given dominion, and glory, and a kingdom, and all peoples, nations, and languages do serve him, his dominion [is] a dominion age-[en]during, that passeth not away, and his kingdom that which is not destroyed," do you think that that "son of man" was to reign over:
believing Jews?
unbelieving Jews?
Jews outside of Judea?
everybody?

Daniel 7 (Young's Literal), my "[en]" bracket in 14 and 27
9 'I was seeing till that thrones have been thrown down, and the Ancient of Days is seated, His garment as snow [is] white, and the hair of his head [is] as pure wool, His throne flames of fire, its wheels burning fire.
10 A flood of fire is proceeding and coming forth from before Him, a thousand thousands do serve Him, and a myriad of myriads before Him do rise up, the Judge is seated, and the books have been opened.  ....
13 'I was seeing in the visions of the night, and lo, with the clouds of the heavens as a son of man was [one] coming, and unto the Ancient of Days he hath come, and before Him they have brought him near.
14 And to him is given dominion, and glory, and a kingdom, and all peoples, nations, and languages do serve him, his dominion [is] a dominion age-[en]during, that passeth not away, and his kingdom that which is not destroyed.  ....
27 and the kingdom, and the dominion, even the greatness of the kingdom under the whole heavens, is given to the people-- the saints of the Most High, His kingdom [is] a kingdom age-[en]during, and all dominions do serve and obey Him.

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If you were tried for the crime of being a Christian, would there be enough evidence to convict you?

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When Paul says [Romans 15 v. 8-9]"Yeshua The Messiah ministered to the circumcision for the sake of the truth of God, so as to confirm The Promise of the fathers. And the Gentiles shall glorify God for the sake of the mercies which have been upon them," do you think "the circumcision" and "the Gentiles" are:
different groups?
the same?

When Paul quotes [v. 11]"'Praise THE LORD JEHOVAH, all you nations; praise him all peoples," do you think "nations" refers to _only_ biological descendants of Abraham Isaac and Jacob?

When Paul quotes [v. 12]"a root of Jesse... shall be The Ruler of the nations, and upon him the nations shall hope," do you think "nations" refers to _only_ biological descendants of Abraham Isaac and Jacob?

Romans 15 (Aramaic Bible in Plain English)
7 Because of this, you shall accept and bear with one another, just as also The Messiah has accepted you for the glory of God.
8 But I say that Yeshua The Messiah ministered to the circumcision for the sake of the truth of God, so as to confirm The Promise of the fathers.
9 And the Gentiles shall glorify God for the sake of the mercies which have been upon them, as it is written:
"I shall give thanks to you with the Gentiles and I shall sing praise to your name."
10 And again it says,
"Be delighted, you Gentiles, with his people."
11 And again it says,
"Praise THE LORD JEHOVAH, all you nations;
praise him all peoples."
12 And again, Isaiah said,
"There shall be a root of Jesse
and he who shall rise shall be The Ruler of the nations,
and upon him the nations shall hope."

When Paul said he was [v. 16]"a servant of Jesus Christ to the nations," do you think "the nations" meant 'the biological descendants of Abraham Isaac and Jacob-- and _only_ them'?

Paul said he [v. 20]"proclaim[ed] good news, not where Christ was named."  Do you think the biological descendants of Abraham Isaac and Jacob were aware of the promised Christ/Messiah?

Romans 15 (Young's Literal)
15 and the more boldly I did write to you, brethren, in part, as putting you in mind, because of the grace that is given to me by God,
16 for my being a servant of Jesus Christ to the nations, acting as priest in the good news of God, that the offering up of the nations may become acceptable, sanctified by the Holy Spirit.
17 I have, then, a boasting in Christ Jesus, in the things pertaining to God,
18 for I will not dare to speak anything of the things that Christ did not work through me, to obedience of nations, by word and deed,
19 in power of signs and wonders, in power of the Spirit of God; so that I, from Jerusalem, and in a circle as far as Illyricum, have fully preached the good news of the Christ;
20 and so counting it honour to proclaim good news, not where Christ was named-- that upon another's foundation I might not build--
21 but according as it hath been written,
'To whom it was not told concerning him, they shall see;
and they who have not heard, shall understand.'

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For Zechariah 8:20-23, where it says "many peoples and strong nations shall come to seek the LORD of hosts in Jerusalem.... ten men from every language of the nations shall grasp the sleeve of a Jewish man, saying, 'Let us go with you, for we have heard that God is with you,'" do you think "nations" refers to _only_ biological descendants of Abraham Isaac and Jacob?

Zechariah 8 (NKJV), biblehub
20 "Thus says the LORD of hosts:
'Peoples shall yet come,
Inhabitants of many cities;
21 The inhabitants of one city shall go to another, saying,
"Let us continue to go and pray before the LORD,
And seek the LORD of hosts.
I myself will go also."
22 Yes, many peoples and strong nations
Shall come to seek the LORD of hosts in Jerusalem,
And to pray before the LORD.?
23 "Thus says the LORD of hosts:
'In those days ten men from every language of the nations shall grasp the sleeve of a Jewish man, saying,
"Let us go with you, for we have heard that God is with you." ' "

"What I am saying, brothers and sisters, is this: Flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God, nor can corruption inherit incorruption." (1 Corinthians 15:50)

We are not God's children because we come from God's flesh and blood, God is spirit. There is one God and Father of all, who breathes his spirit into all.

All died in Adam a long time before Abraham, because all are one flesh and Israel was told to love their neighbor as themselves. The nations were blessed through Israel. The unfaithful justified by the faithful. A picture of how all will be made holy.


All the promises of God are in Christ. He inherited Esau's house as well as Jacob's.

Let people serve you, and let nations bow down to you. Be lord over your brethren, and let your mother's sons bow down to you. Cursed be everyone that curses you, and blessed be he that blesses you."  (Genesis 27:29)

'The one who secretly kills his neighbor is cursed.' And all the people will say, 'Amen!' (Deuteronomy 27:24)

Our thoughts and the feelings of our heart are done in secret, so the one who hates his neighbor is cursed, they hate themselves and they hate God who is in all for the purpose of leading all to where we will be with God always. In a full knowledge of God.


For the Son of man has come to seek and to save that which is lost." (Luke 19:10)

"With your faithful love, you will lead the people you have redeemed; you will guide them to your holy dwelling with your strength." (Exodus 15:13)

And if I be lifted up from the earth, I will draw all to Myself." (John 12:32)

"The ENTIRE notion of the Creator of the Universe, who wants humans to be saved from being imperfect the way He created them, by relying on human beings to fumble around with a message and get it into the hands or ears of everyone else, ... who eventually invent the printing press, and electronic communications devices (Thousands of years after the message began) so as to reach a TINY sliver of humanity fortunate enough to have been exposed to that message....
seems preposterous"

"being imperfect the way He created them"
Imperfect-- how so?

"so as to reach a TINY sliver of humanity fortunate enough to have been exposed to that message"
Everybody that has lived on earth, everybody who is living on earth, and everybody who will live on earth will eventually be "exposed to that message," and will accept gladly that message. 

Many who had been in hellish afterlife realms have been preached to, and are now progressing steadily in their relationship with God.
At-least 3 dark angels have received God's love and forgiveness as relayed by a human, and are now serving God and serving rather than harming people.

"No physical healing emptying the hospitals"
Not yet.  But there are physical healings emptying out some hospital rooms.

"No banishing of Cancer within little children"
There is such for some.

"No Voice from Heaven... speaking to us"
Some this century have heard God's voice audibly.
More and more people are seeking out God's voice, and are hearing God's voice cross their minds, and are recognizing it as God speaking and are responding to what God says.  There's presently a massive increase in
a) hearing God's voice and knowing that it's God's voice, and
b) interaction with God via 2-way communication.

"Bottom line is...
God gave direct messages to Specific people.
Christ taught specific people.
Those people wrote letters to specific people.
The exclusivity of 'Covenant' in BOTH testaments was to SPECIFIC PEOPLE"

Yes, the Old Covenant was very exclusive.  However, the human efforts proved woefully inadequate-- as God intended be demonstrated.
However, the New Covenant is wide open for anyone and everyone to take advantage of.  And eventually _everybody_ *will* take advantage of what Jesus made available to every human.

"If Humanity was supposed to be in relationship with God because He loved EVERYONE and wanted them in His presence for eternity, ...
The Omniblahblah powers of God would get what He wanted.
If nothing else...would have made it 'obvious' to Humanity what He wanted"

God will eventually get what he wanted at the outset.
Making things too obvious for too many defeats the purpose/intention of God to create sons of God, rather than subjects of God.  God is relentless, his love is unstoppable, and he's got an infinite length of time with which to woo and to develop/train/teach/rear humans.  There is spiritual progress for humans in the afterlife.  Once every human has accepted God's love and mercy, then God will elevate humans to be more and more like him.  Since God is infinitely above humans, that elevation will continue for an infinite length of time, and thankfulness on humans' part toward God will continue to grow.

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Where does this fit?:

Revelation 21 (HCSB), biblehub
24 The nations will walk in its light,
and the kings of the earth will bring their glory into it.
25 Each day its gates will never close
because it will never be night there.
26 They will bring the glory and honor of the nations into it.

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Do you agree Sodom will be restored?  (see Ezekiel 16)
At-least 3 dark angels have received God's love and forgiveness as relayed by a human, and are now serving God and serving rather than harming people.  Even the devil will eventually willingly submit to God.
There are hellish realms in the afterlife.  People that haven't reconciled themselves to God and continue to treat others in ugly ways ought be very concerned about what the afterlife holds for them.

God is the Savior of _all_ people, and especially of those who believe:
1 Timothy 4:10 (NIV) That is why we labor and strive, because we have put our hope in the living God, who is the Savior of all people, and especially of those who believe.

Do you disagree with any of this?:
1 Corinthians 15:22 (NIV)
For as in Adam all die,
so in Christ all will be made alive.

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"I have no clue what this 'dark angel' mumbo jumbo is as relayed by claims which are merely hear say but they don't reflect any reality I am aware of.  In fact, they are no more meaningful than the religious claims of any other cult"

Do you think:
God exists?
God made powerful, nonmaterial creatures often called 'angels'?
some of those angels rebelled against God and got kicked out of heaven, and are malicious?

Matthew 18:10 (NIV)
"See that you do not despise one of these little ones. For I tell you that their angels in heaven always see the face of my Father in heaven.

Luke 10:18-19 (NIV)
He replied, "I saw Satan fall like lightning from heaven.  I have given you authority to trample on snakes and scorpions and to overcome all the power of the enemy; nothing will harm you.

Revelation 12 (Aramaic Bible in Plain English), biblehub
7 And there was war in Heaven: Michael and his Angels fighting with the Dragon; and the Dragon and its Angels fought 8 And did not prevail, neither was a place found for them in Heaven. 9 And the great Dragon was cast down, that Chief Serpent, which is called The Devil and Satan, which deceives all The Earth, and it was cast down unto The Earth and its Angels were cast down with it.

"Claims of miraculous healing in hospitals are hear say and side step the THRUST of my objection...that it would be COMMON and WIDESPREAD if the goal was to motivate belief or care for those supposedly loved"

Miraculous healing has occurred and has motivated belief in some. Bringing God's healing power to suffering people, resulting in their healing, is a way of caring for those people, who God loves.
Followers of Jesus bringing God's healing power to those suffering had a heyday in the early days of Christianity, but declined over the years and reached its lowest point during the Middle Ages.

_The Nearly Perfect Crime: How the Church Almost Killed the Ministry of Healing_ (2005) by Francis MacNutt
https://www.amazon.com/Nearly-Perfect-Crime-Ministry-Healing/dp/0800793900/

The bringing of God's healing power is currently in a renaissance.  Here's a healing miracle of tinnitus, and a healing of back pain and of a detached kneecap, that look credible to me:
Todd White - Miracle at the Shawarma Shop (ISRAEL Part 8 ) - Jan 6, 2018
https://youtu.be/R71UJ_E7CwE
3:00+:
Must Watch Dramatic New York Healing and Salvation - Oct 20, 2013 - Thomas Fischer
https://youtu.be/w_b2B15037U

Some Christians have raised the dead:
DEADRAISER State Patrol Scene
https://youtu.be/NgF7jJ88Oho
David Hogan on
Raising His Very First Dead Person
https://youtu.be/MgPpuiT13FI
_Saints Who Raised the Dead: True Stories of 400 Resurrection Miracles_ (1986)
https://www.amazon.com/Saints-Who-Raise-Dead-Resurrection/dp/0895557983/

' The "New Covenant" is stated to be with the EXACT SAME Category as the Old Covenant. as evidenced in Hebrews 8:8 referring to Jeremiah 31:31.
Have you not read the exclusive language of those passages which EXACTLY MIRROR the exclusive language of the Old Covenant?
or Hebrews 9:15 Therefore Christ is the mediator of a new covenant, so that those who are called may receive the promised eternal inheritance, now that He has died to redeem them from the transgressions committed under the first covenant.
"Those who are called" (exclusive)
"the Promised eternal inheritance" (the promise was made to specific category)
"He died to redeem THEM" (exclusive)
"from transgressions ...of 1st covenant" (exclusive)
Romans 11:26 And so all Israel will be saved, as it is written: "The Deliverer will come from Zion; He will remove godlessness from Jacob.
EXCLUSIVE! Israel and those in Jacob are categorically describing the same group as the above scriptures.'

Yes, all Israel will be saved.  But only after all gentiles are saved.  Everybody is called.  Everybody will be saved.

John 12:32 (Aramaic Bible in Plain English)
"And when I am lifted up from the earth,
I will draw everyone to myself."

Zechariah 8 (NKJV), biblehub
20 "Thus says the LORD of hosts:
'Peoples shall yet come,
Inhabitants of many cities;
21 The inhabitants of one city shall go to another, saying,
"Let us continue to go and pray before the LORD,
And seek the LORD of hosts.
I myself will go also."
22 Yes, many peoples and strong nations
Shall come to seek the LORD of hosts in Jerusalem,
And to pray before the LORD.
23 "Thus says the LORD of hosts:
'In those days ten men from every language of the nations shall grasp the sleeve of a Jewish man, saying,
"Let us go with you, for we have heard that God is with you." ' "

1 Corinthians 15 (Aramaic Bible in Plain English)
20 But now The Messiah is risen from among the dead and is the first fruits of those who sleep. 21 Just as by a man death came, in this way also by a man the dead come to life. 22 For just as by Adam all people die, in this way also by The Messiah they all live; 23 Each person in his order; The Messiah was the first fruits; after this, those who are The Messiah's at his arrival. 24 And then the end will come, when he will deliver The Kingdom to God The Father, when he will destroy every Ruler and every Authority and all Powers. 25 For he is going to reign until all his enemies will be set under his feet, 26 And the last enemy death shall be destroyed. 27 For he brought all things to submission under his feet. But when it says, "All things are subjected to him", it is understood that it excludes him who subjected all things to him. 28 And when all is subjected to him, then the Son shall be subject to him who subjected all things to him, that God might be all in all.

' "what Jesus made available to every human"???
NO HE DIDN'T '

It's like everyone was given a million bucks.  All that's needed to make use of what's been made available is to go to a local bank and withdraw money.  However, thus far only a few have made the trip to the bank and withdrawn the money.  Few have even heard they have a million bucks.

"Every human has not had the opportunity to hear the gospel, or witness any sign or miracle as to verify the message is authentic.
Every human has not heard that they were under a Law which they were transgressing and that 2,000 years ago there was a person who redeemed them from that Law that they also never heard of"

Agreed.  But before all is said and done, every human will have "had the opportunity to hear the gospel," and will accept it.  God could have had angels tell everybody the gospel, and everybody would know about it in very short order.  God hasn't done that, and he instead relies on humans to spread the news, with some assistance from Jesus in the afterlife realm.

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"I don't believe in the devil"
Do you think:
Jesus thought there was a devil?
all the evil done by humans originated solely with humans'-- and only humans'-- imagination?

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Does God continue to pursue those that:
"reject this gift"?
never even learned about this gift this side of the grave?

Excerpt from "Unveiled Glory" by Hannah Hurnard
https://www.tentmaker.org/testimonials/hannahhurnard.htm
When I got to that point in my thoughts, alone there in the hospital room, and thought of how I myself had been so infinitely privileged and blessed to be born in into a Christian home in a Christian land, I looked up into the face of the Lord who so loved me and that Moslem woman also, I remembered that He had died for us both, and I said to Him:

"Lord, help me to understand. Have you really ceased to love this ignorant Moslem woman, my sister human being, and yet so terribly less privileged than myself? Can you really do nothing for her now? We had no chance to tell her even one word about You. Does this mean that she really must go out into the darkness and be lost forever and ever? Then, Lord why did you let her be born, and all the countless other billions of ignorant men and women and children around the world in all ages, who never heard the Gospel? They began by being "lost," and end up being "lost eternally?"

Then it seemed to me that very gently and quietly the Lord about Whom I had supposed that I must believe such things, said:

"Hannah, when you were driving that poor ignorant woman to the hospital, you were absolutely certain that I Myself was with you, and that My love and pity and compassion were encompassing you all. Then can you really believe that one moment after she died, I, Who had constrained you to risk the snipers and the raiders, then withdrew from her my My compassion and My love and My power to save her? Must you not think that I who was with you, although unseen, would be the very first One whom that poor ignorant soul would see when she left the body? And that she, who never heard of Me while she was living on the earth, would find Me close beside her, offering her the love and forgiveness and the "Good News" of the Gospel which she had never had the chance to hear?"

"Lord," I whispered, "It does not say so in the Bible, but just the opposite. It says that she and those like her, are lost-- are lost forever."

"It does not say so in the Bible!" said the Good Shepherd of the sheep. "Why, Hannah, have you never read of the Shepherd Who goeth after the sheep until He find it?" (Luke 15:4) ... Trust that woman on whom you had compassion enough to risk that drive, trust her to ME... I have such love for her that I went to the cross for her."

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God loves those that survived on Noah's Ark, and loves those that perished in the Flood.  Jesus went and preached to those that died in the Flood.

1 Peter 3 (Aramaic Bible in Plain English)
18 Because The Messiah also died once for the sake of our sins, The Righteous One in the place of sinners, to bring you to God, and he died in body and lived in his Spirit. 19 And he preached to those souls who were held in Sheol, 20 These who from the first were not convinced in the days of Noah when the long-suffering of God commanded that there would be an ark, upon the hope of their repentance, and only eight souls entered it and were kept alive by water.

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"all humans will not be reconciled to God"
So this is erroneous?:

Romans 5:10 (NIV), biblehub
For if, while we were God's enemies, we were reconciled to him through the death of his Son,
how much more, having been reconciled, shall we be saved through his life!

"5:1 says the verse 10 'we' is those who are justified"
I'm vaguely aware "of the concept of context."
Do you agree that there will be a time [v. 28]"when all is subjected to him" i.e. to Jesus?
Do you agree that [v. 11]"every tongue" will [v. 11]"confess that Jesus Christ is Lord"?

1 Corinthians 15 (Aramaic Bible in Plain English)
20 But now The Messiah is risen from among the dead and is the first fruits of those who sleep. 21 Just as by a man death came, in this way also by a man the dead come to life. 22 For just as by Adam all people die, in this way also by The Messiah they all live; 23 Each person in his order; The Messiah was the first fruits; after this, those who are The Messiah's at his arrival. 24 And then the end will come, when he will deliver The Kingdom to God The Father, when he will destroy every Ruler and every Authority and all Powers. 25 For he is going to reign until all his enemies will be set under his feet, 26 And the last enemy death shall be destroyed. 27 For he brought all things to submission under his feet. But when it says, "All things are subjected to him", it is understood that it excludes him who subjected all things to him. 28 And when all is subjected to him, then the Son shall be subject to him who subjected all things to him, that God might be all in all.

Philippians 2:10-11 (NKJV)
10 that at the name of Jesus every knee should bow,
of those in heaven, and of those on earth, and of those under the earth,
11 and that every tongue should confess that
Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father.

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Do you disagree with anything in v. 20?:

Colossians 1 (NIV)
18 And he is the head of the body, the church;
he is the beginning and the firstborn from among the dead,
so that in everything he might have the supremacy.
19 For God was pleased to have all his fullness dwell in him,
20 and through him to reconcile to himself all things,
whether things on earth or things in heaven,
by making peace through his blood, shed on the cross.

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I don't think Jesus lied.  I do note that Jesus talked about the state of affairs before he had done what he later accomplished for humanity by dying while taking on humanity's sicknesses and sins, and resurrecting.

"where I am going, you cannot come"
Jesus said something similar to his faithful students:

John 13:33 (NIV)
"My children, I will be with you only a little longer. You will look for me, and just as I told the Jews, so I tell you now: Where I am going, you cannot come.

Repentance after death is still possible.  Though someone may die in their sins, God still pursues them.
Those that died in the Flood died in their sins, yet Jesus still pursued them:

1 Peter 3 (Aramaic Bible in Plain English)
18 Because The Messiah also died once for the sake of our sins, The Righteous One in the place of sinners, to bring you to God, and he died in body and lived in his Spirit. 19 And he preached to those souls who were held in Sheol, 20 These who from the first were not convinced in the days of Noah when the long-suffering of God commanded that there would be an ark, upon the hope of their repentance, and only eight souls entered it and were kept alive by water.

God is relentless, God's love is relentless, and God doesn't ever stop pursuing sinners.  He loves people way too much to give up pursuing them.  And he's got all the time he needs to be successful in his quest.

Are you saying "hell... is eternal" for the devil, the beast, and the false prophet?  (and only them?)

"your conscience is not pure. It?s tainted by your sin"
If your conscience warned you about pursuing something that was obviously sinful, would you be inclined to think that _you_ warned yourself, and God had no involvement whatsoever in being behind the warning?

"The Bible is pure"
Even if that's true, the Bible's purity is no guarantee of giving good direction.  E.g., consider this 'advice' based on the Bible:

Matthew 4:6 (NIV)
"If you are the Son of God," he [satan] said, "throw yourself down. For it is written: "'He will command his angels concerning you, and they will lift you up in their hands, so that you will not strike your foot against a stone.'"

"The Bible warns us if anyone, Evan an angel are to contradict the Bible we are never to believe them"
Reference?
What do you do if the Bible contradicts itself?
Who do you think prompted King David to sin by taking a census?  (satan? God?)

2 Samuel 24
1 Again the anger of the Lord was aroused against Israel, and He moved David against them to say, "Go, number Israel and Judah."  10 And David's heart condemned him after he had numbered the people. So David said to the Lord, "I have sinned greatly in what I have done; but now, I pray, O Lord, take away the iniquity of Your servant, for I have done very foolishly."
1 Chronicles 21
1 Now Satan stood up against Israel, and moved David to number Israel.  7 And God was displeased with this thing; therefore He struck Israel. 8 So David said to God, "I have sinned greatly, because I have done this thing; but now, I pray, take away the iniquity of Your servant, for I have done very foolishly."

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"And if anyone's name was not found written in the book of life, he was thrown into the lake of fire. (Revelation 20:15, ESV)"
Is it your view that God:
is powerless to rescue anyone that has been "thrown into the lake of fire"?
can't seek out lost sheep that are in fire?
won't seek out lost sheep that are in fire?

"only a few find it"
Fortunately, we have a Good Shepherd who goes in search of his lost sheep.

Luke 15:4 (NIV)
"Suppose one of you has a hundred sheep and loses one of them. Doesn't he leave the ninety-nine in the open country and go after the lost sheep until he finds it?

"do not belong to God"
After making that remark, Jesus paid for them, ransomed them, with his own blood.  They're now legally his.

Luke 15:8 (NIV)
"Or suppose a woman has ten silver coins and loses one. Doesn't she light a lamp, sweep the house and search carefully until she finds it?

Do you think God acted on this prayer of Jesus?:
Luke 23:34 (NIV)
Jesus said, "Father, forgive them, for they do not know what they are doing." And they divided up his clothes by casting lots.

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We're all sheep.

Isaiah 53:6 (NIV)
We all, like sheep, have gone astray,
each of us has turned to our own way;
and the LORD has laid on him the iniquity of us all.

"God knows who He will save"
What stops God from, before everything is said and done, saving everybody?  (God lacks the love necessary for that?  God lacks the power necessary for that?)

"the goats go to hell"
To what end/purpose?  (for the pleasure of God, who is a sadist who enjoys observing creatures he created getting tormented for an infinitely-long length of time?  for the correction of and restoration of those sent to hell?)

Hebrews 12:6 (NIV)
because the Lord disciplines the one he loves,
and he chastens everyone he accepts as his son."

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"your text doesn't show all are sheep. It shows all believers are sheep"
Where do you see that below?

Isaiah 53 (Berean Study), biblehub
1 Who has believed our message?
And to whom has the arm of the LORD been revealed?
2 He grew up before Him like a tender shoot,
and like a root out of dry ground.
He had no stately form or majesty to attract us,
no beauty that we should desire Him.
3 He was despised and rejected by men,
a man of sorrows, acquainted with grief.
Like one from whom men hide their faces,
He was despised, and we esteemed Him not.
4 Surely He took on our infirmities
and carried our sorrows;
yet we considered Him stricken by God,
struck down and afflicted.
5 But He was pierced for our transgressions,
He was crushed for our iniquities;
the punishment that brought us peace was upon Him,
and by His stripes we are healed.

6 We all like sheep have gone astray,
each one has turned to his own way;
and the LORD has laid upon Him
the iniquity of us all.
7 He was oppressed and afflicted,
yet He did not open His mouth.
He was led like a lamb to the slaughter,
and as a sheep before her shearers is silent,
so He did not open His mouth.
8 By oppression and judgment He was taken away,
and who can recount His descendants?
For He was cut off from the land of the living;
He was stricken for the transgression of My people.

9 He was assigned a grave with the wicked,
and with a rich man in His death,
although He had done no violence,
nor was any deceit in His mouth.
10 Yet it was the LORD's will to crush Him
and to cause Him to suffer;
and when His soul is made a guilt offering,
He will see His offspring, He will prolong His days,
and the good pleasure of the LORD will prosper in His hand.
11 After the anguish of His soul,
He will see the light of life and be satisfied.
By His knowledge My righteous Servant will justify many,
and He will bear their iniquities.
12 Therefore I will allot Him a portion with the great,
and He will divide the spoils with the strong,
because He has poured out His life unto death,
and He was numbered with the transgressors.
Yet He bore the sin of many
and made intercession for the transgressors.

"God does discipline His sheep"
Are those God disciplines his sheep? I.e., if God disciplines someone, does that mean that that person is one of his sheep?

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"Everybody will be saved?  Not according to scriptures..."
Different scriptures say different things. The Bible has progressive revelation about God, and eschatology has typically lagged far behind the increasingly-lofty view of God presented in the scriptures through the centuries.

"Matthew 22:11 But when the king came in to see the guests, he spotted a man who was not dressed in wedding clothes. 12 Friend, he asked, how did you get in here without wedding clothes? But the man was speechless. 13 Then the king told the servants, Tie him hand and foot, and throw him into the outer darkness, where there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth. 14 For many are called, but few are chosen."
So some don't participate in the marriage supper of the lamb.

"Matthew 25:46 And they will go away into eternal punishment, but the righteous into eternal life."
"Eternal" there is a mistranslation.  The Greek there means world/age, and the Aramaic under the Greek also means world/age.

"Luke 20:35 But those who are considered worthy to share in the age to come and in the resurrection from the dead will neither marry nor be given in marriage."
Per Daniel, everybody gets resurrected.

"Matthew 12:32 Whoever speaks a word against the Son of Man will be forgiven, but whoever speaks against the Holy Spirit will not be forgiven, either in this age or in the one to come."
How about the age after that?

"John 5:29 and come out-- those who have done good to the resurrection of life, and those who have done evil to the resurrection of judgment."
All of God's judgments serve a positive purpose.

Hebrews 12:6 (NIV)
because the Lord disciplines the one he loves,
and he chastens everyone he accepts as his son."

"the ethne 'gentiles' referred to are those Lost sheep of Israel who were scattered... once THEY come in THEN ALL Israel would be saved...because they were part of Israel"
Have those "those Lost sheep of Israel who were scattered" come in?

For Zechariah 8:20-23, where it says "many peoples and strong nations shall come to seek the LORD of hosts in Jerusalem.... ten men from every language of the nations shall grasp the sleeve of a Jewish man, saying, 'Let us go with you, for we have heard that God is with you,'" do you think "nations" refers to "those Lost sheep of Israel who were scattered"?

Zechariah 8 (NKJV), biblehub
20 "Thus says the LORD of hosts:
'Peoples shall yet come,
Inhabitants of many cities;
21 The inhabitants of one city shall go to another, saying,
"Let us continue to go and pray before the LORD,
And seek the LORD of hosts.
I myself will go also."
22 Yes, many peoples and strong nations
Shall come to seek the LORD of hosts in Jerusalem,
And to pray before the LORD.
23 "Thus says the LORD of hosts:
'In those days ten men from every language of the nations shall grasp the sleeve of a Jewish man, saying,
"Let us go with you, for we have heard that God is with you." ' "

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"Robin Main's account isn't true"
How'd you come to that conclusion?
"don't listen.... will never"
Just because someone won't listen now doesn't mean they won't listen later.  On the radio, one preacher mentioned canvassing his neighborhood for people to invite to his church.  Re: those people that declined, if a year later he asked them again, many were open to coming in the wake of events in their lives the prior year.

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"All will bow. Some in belief. Some in damnation"
Are you saying some will confess this, and then get carted off to suffer excruciating torment for an infinitely-long length of time?:

Philippians 2:11 (Aramaic Bible in Plain English) And every tongue shall confess that Yeshua The Messiah is THE LORD JEHOVAH to the glory of God his Father.

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"None of your verses show the sheep are not the elect"
The elect are just the firstfruits.  Jesus ransomed everybody.  Everybody belongs to God.  Only a small fraction of people, however, this side of the grave avail themselves of the benefits of that ransoming.

"Many scriptures talk about hell being forever and ever and eternal"
"Eternal" there is a mistranslation.  The Greek there means world/age, and the Aramaic under the Greek also means world/age.

"Hebrews 9:27 shows after death is the judgment. No more hope for the lost after that"
Do you think that after they died, there was no more hope for those who died in the Flood?

1 Peter 3 (Aramaic Bible in Plain English)
18 Because The Messiah also died once for the sake of our sins,
The Righteous One in the place of sinners,
to bring you to God,
and he died in body and lived in his Spirit.
19 And he preached to those souls who were held in Sheol,
20 These who from the first were not convinced in the days of Noah when the long-suffering of God commanded that there would be an ark, upon the hope of their repentance, and only eight souls entered it and were kept alive by water.

"None show salvation for all"
When Daniel 2 speaks of a [v. 35]"rock that... became a huge mountain and filled the whole earth," and says [v. 44]"the God of heaven will set up a kingdom that will never be destroyed, nor will it be left to another people. It will crush all those kingdoms and bring them to an end, but it will itself endure forever," do you believe that that God-instituted kingdom will actually crush every other kingdom?

Daniel 2 (NIV), https://biblehub.com/niv/daniel/2.htm
34 While you were watching, a rock was cut out, but not by human hands. It struck the statue on its feet of iron and clay and smashed them. 35 Then the iron, the clay, the bronze, the silver and the gold were all broken to pieces and became like chaff on a threshing floor in the summer. The wind swept them away without leaving a trace. But the rock that struck the statue became a huge mountain and filled the whole earth. 36 "This was the dream, and now we will interpret it to the king.  ....
44 "In the time of those kings, the God of heaven will set up a kingdom that will never be destroyed, nor will it be left to another people. It will crush all those kingdoms and bring them to an end, but it will itself endure forever. 45 This is the meaning of the vision of the rock cut out of a mountain, but not by human hands-- a rock that broke the iron, the bronze, the clay, the silver and the gold to pieces.
"The great God has shown the king what will take place in the future. The dream is true and its interpretation is trustworthy."

When Daniel 7 speaks of someone [v. 13-14]"as a son of man" coming "with the clouds of the heavens.... and to him is given dominion, and glory, and a kingdom, and all peoples, nations, and languages do serve him, his dominion [is] a dominion age-[en]during, that passeth not away, and his kingdom that which is not destroyed," do you think that that some people _won't_ serve the Son of Man?

Daniel 7 (Young's Literal)
9 'I was seeing till that thrones have been thrown down, and the Ancient of Days is seated, His garment as snow [is] white, and the hair of his head [is] as pure wool, His throne flames of fire, its wheels burning fire.
10 A flood of fire is proceeding and coming forth from before Him, a thousand thousands do serve Him, and a myriad of myriads before Him do rise up, the Judge is seated, and the books have been opened.  ....
13 'I was seeing in the visions of the night, and lo, with the clouds of the heavens as a son of man was [one] coming, and unto the Ancient of Days he hath come, and before Him they have brought him near.
14 And to him is given dominion, and glory, and a kingdom, and all peoples, nations, and languages do serve him, his dominion [is] a dominion age-[en]during, that passeth not away, and his kingdom that which is not destroyed.

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The "context of the entire Bible" is that God is very very loving.
Some, however, present God as more sadistic than even Hitler and Saddam Hussein.

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"Jesus only died for the elect"
Reference?

"Greek word mistranslation excuse.... nor is it recognized by the scholars who have translated the Bible"
Not even the author of Young's Literal?

"Leading people to think they always have later rather than preaching 2 cor 6:2 the today is the day of salvation"
Spiritual progress can be very speedy this side of the grave.  On the other side of the grave, there is spiritual progress, but it's extremely slow.  Hitler is currently roasting, and has been roasting for about 75 years.  God knows for how much longer Hitler will roast.  He won't be roasting for an infinite length of time.
Sadhu Sundar Singh was a universalist.  Do you think his universalist stance was harmful?

"Greek word mistranslation excuse"
'Eternal' is a mistranslation.  The Greek word under many translations' "eternal" means simply 'world/age,' and the Aramaic under the Greek also means 'world/age.'  To say the Greek word means 'eternal' as in 'infinitely-long-- without end' is to take a modern concept *not* had by the ancient Hebrews, and _imposing_ it on the Scriptures.

Revelation 20:10
https://biblehub.com/interlinear/revelation/20-10.htm
aiōnas/ αἰῶνας/ ages
tōn/ τῶν/ of the
aiōnōn/ αἰώνων/ ages

Matthew 25:41
https://biblehub.com/interlinear/matthew/25-41.htm
pyr/ πῦρ/ fire
to/ τὸ/  -
aiōnion/ αἰώνιον/ eternal

For how many years was the company of Onesimus enjoyed by those to whom Paul sent him?  (an infinite length of time?)

Philemon 1 (King James Bible), https://biblehub.com/kjv/philemon/1.htm
10 I beseech thee for my son Onesimus, whom I have begotten in my bonds:  11 Which in time past was to thee unprofitable, but now profitable to thee and to me:  12 Whom I have sent again.... 15 For perhaps he therefore departed for a season, that thou shouldest receive him for ever; 16 Not now as a servant, but above a servant, a brother beloved, specially to me, but how much more unto thee, both

Philemon 1:15
https://biblehub.com/interlinear/philemon/1-15.htm
echōristhē/ ἐχωρίσθη/ he was separated [from you]
pros/ πρὸς/ for
hōran/ ὥραν/ a time
hina/ ἵνα/ so that
aiōnion/ αἰώνιον/ eternally
auton/ αὐτὸν/ him
apechēs/ ἀπέχῃς/ you might possess

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Sodom got destroyed by fire.  For how many years did Sodom experience the fire that destroyed it?  (an infinite number of years?)

Jude 1:7
https://biblehub.com/kjv/jude/1.htm
Even as Sodom and Gomorrha, and the cities about them in like manner, giving themselves over to fornication, and going after strange flesh, are set forth for an example, suffering the vengeance of eternal fire.

Jude 1:7
https://biblehub.com/interlinear/jude/1-7.htm
deigma/ δεῖγμα/ an example
pyros/ πυρὸς/ of fire
aiōniou/ αἰωνίου/eternal
dikēn/ δίκην/ [the] penalty
hypechousai/ ὑπέχουσαι/ undergoing

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Did the mystery mentioned below cease to be a mystery?  or is it a mystery that never ever ceased to be a mystery?

Colossians 1:26 (King James Bible), https://biblehub.com/kjv/colossians/1.htm
Even the mystery which hath been hid from ages and from generations,
but now is made manifest to his saints:

Colossians 1:26
https://biblehub.com/interlinear/colossians/1-26.htm
mystērion/ μυστήριον/ mystery
to/ τὸ/  -
apokekrymmenon/ ἀποκεκρυμμένον/ having been hidden
apo/ ἀπὸ/ from
tōn/ τῶν/ the
aiōnōn/ αἰώνων/ ages

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How confident are you that there's a "forever" here, and not "age"?:

Jude 1:13 (Young's Literal Translation), https://biblehub.com/ylt/jude/1.htm
wild waves of a sea, foaming out their own shames;
stars going astray, to whom the gloom of the darkness to the age hath been kept.

Jude 1:13
https://biblehub.com/interlinear/jude/1-13.htm
hois/ οἷς/ to whom
ho/ ὁ/ the
zophos/ ζόφος/ gloom
tou/ τοῦ/  -
kotous/ σκότους/ of darkness
eis/ εἰς/ to
aiōna/ αἰῶνα/ [the] age
tetērētai/ τετήρηται/ has been reserved

The Aramaic Jude has:  l'ailm, i.e. to-the-world/age.
https://aramaicdb.lightofword.org/index.php/en/interlinear-search
Peshi tta tool at http://dukhrana.com

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It says twice below that [v. 8 & 16]"God is love."  Do you think it should have said something else, and if 'yes,' what?  ('God is wrath'?  'God is justice'?)

1 John 4 (Aramaic Bible in Plain English), biblehub
7 Beloved, let us love one another, because love is from God, and everyone who loves is born of God and knows God, 8 Because God is love, and everyone who does not love does not know God. 9 In this the love of God is known to us: for God sent his only Son to the world so that it shall live by him. 10 In this is love: it was not that we loved God, but he has loved us, and he sent us his Son, the atonement for the sake of our sins. 11 Beloved, if God loves us in this way, we are indebted also to love one another. 12 No person has ever seen God, but if we love one another, God abides in us, and his love is fulfilled in us. 13 In this we know that we abide in him and he abides in us, because he has given us of his Spirit. 14 And we see and do testify that The Father hath sent his Son, The Savior for the world.

15 And everyone who confesses Yeshua, that he is The Son of God, God dwells in him and he dwells in God. 16 And we believe and we know the love that God has for us, for God is love, and everyone who dwells in love dwells in God. 17 By this, love is fulfilled with us, that we may have boldness in the day of judgment, because as he is, so also are we, in this world. 18 There is no fear in love, but perfect love casts out fear, because fear is by suspicion, but he who fears is not grown up in love. 19 Therefore we shall love God because he first loved us. 20 But if a man will say, "I love God", and he hates his brother, he is lying; for he who does not love his brother who is visible, how is it possible for him to love God who is invisible? 21 And we have received this commandment from him: "Everyone who loves God shall love his brother also".

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"Christian Fatherhood of God... that is anti-Christian"
The 'Lord's Prayer' opens with "our Father."  What should it instead open with?

Do you agree with this?:
Deuteronomy 4:24 (NIV)
For the LORD your God is a consuming fire....

Yes! Amen, Jesus said He will draw ?all? - Jn.12:32.

I actually have come to believe lake of fire is, at first Rev. mention (at the return of the Lord) manmade. And second mention is at the final defeat of the adversary, just before the resurrection of all those who ?died in their sins?.. And last mention at the ?all made new? / ?all in all? event of Rev.21:1-5; 1Cor.15:28.

2Pet.3:10 and 12-13 being bookend events of the Lord?s long second advent (consisting in the millennium/?the thousand years? and ?the judgment? - which judgment ?day? because of the PATTERN of the Fall Holy Days (of LEV.23). Seeing as how His first advent so perfectly fulfilled the Spring Holy Days, and even their PATTERN.
:Peace2: oh! and notice what Jude 7 says what occurred to Gomorrah and cities, is THE example of eternal hellfire! A place?? OR, an event??

There are scriptures that can seem to support never-ending torture, annihilation, and universalism.  In terms of scriptural evidence, the situation is this:
never-ending torture < annihilationism < universalism

See
Universal Restoration & the Fate of the Wicked
https://tentmaker.org/forum/judgement-and-punishment/universal-restoration-verses/

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"serious mental problems"
Do you think I'm being bothered by a demon?

John 8 (Aramaic Bible in Plain English), biblehub
48 The Jews answered and they were saying to him, "Are we not saying correctly that you are a Samaritan and have a demon in you?" 49 Yeshua said to them, "A demon is not in me, but I honor my Father and you dishonor Me."

Do you think Paul had "serious mental problems"?
Was Paul's remark, "I have desired... for all those who are hearing me now to be like me, except for these chains," indicative of his having "serious mental problems"?

Acts 26 (Aramaic Bible in Plain English, with some "s deleted), biblehub
1 And Agrippa said to Paulus, "You are permitted to speak for yourself."
And Paulus stretched out his hand and offered a defense and said:
2 "Concerning everything of which I am accused by the Jews, King Agrippa....
24 When Paulus had thus rendered a defense, Festus cried out with a loud voice, "You are insane, Paul! Much study has made you insane!"
25 Paulus said, "I am not insane, excellent Festus, but I am speaking words of truth and integrity. 26 Also King Agrippa especially knows of such things as these, therefore I speak openly before him, because I do not think one of these matters has escaped him, for they were not done in secret. 27 Do you believe The Prophets, King Agrippa? I know that you do believe."
28 Agrippa said to him, "In a little bit you will persuade me to become a Christian."
29 Paulus said, *"I have desired* from God in a little and in much, not for you only, but also *for all those who are hearing me now to be like me, except for these chains."*
30 And The King stood for him, and the Governor and Berniqi and those who were sitting with them.

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"not everyone is a child of God and therefore he is not their father"
Do you think everyone needs to give themselves to God?

Matthew 22:21 (NIV)
"Caesar's," they replied. Then he said to them,
"So give back to Caesar what is Caesar's,
and to God what is God's."

"it says he casts"
Revelation 20:15 (NIV)
Anyone whose name was not found written in the book of life was thrown into the lake of fire.

What's the purpose of that fire?  (to torture?  to reform?)
Do you agree with this?:

Deuteronomy 4:24 (NIV)
For the LORD your God is a consuming fire....

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Buckley Wilford Ron Cash "you teach a God with no wrath"
Remind me if you would, where exactly did I "teach a God with no wrath"?

"Justice is served in the penal substitution of Christ"
What is meant by "the penal substitution of Christ"?

"The believer had the wrath of God due them fall on the Son"
Are you saying God got angry with someone who was completely innocent and sinless, his own son?  (If so, that sounds very unjust.)  Reference?  Do you think God is unjust?

"Hell is eternal.... The non believer will suffer an eternal punishment"
"Non believer" in who or what?
'Eternal' is a mistranslation.  The Greek word under many translations' "eternal" means simply 'world/age,' and the Aramaic under the Greek also means 'world/age.'  To say the Greek word means 'eternal' as in 'infinitely-long-- without end' is to take a modern concept *not* had by the ancient Hebrews, and _imposing_ it on the Scriptures.

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"Turn or burn"
"Turn" to or from what or who?

"The Gospel has been proclaimed"
What is "the Gospel," as you conceive it?

"I am done"
Suit yourself.  I strongly doubt lurkers reading this conversation think you made a strong case for the never-ending torture position.
If I created a being that could feel pain, and placed that being in a location where he would experience a constant, very high level of pain for an infinite length of time, what would you call me?  (a torturer?  a sadist?)

Do you agree with verses 18-19?:   
Romans 5:12-19 (KJV)
12 Wherefore, as by one man sin entered into the world, and death by sin;
and so death passed upon all men, for that all have sinned:
13 (For until the law sin was in the world:
but sin is not imputed when there is no law.
14 Nevertheless death reigned from Adam to Moses,
even over them that had not sinned after the similitude of Adam's transgression,
who is the figure of him that was to come.
15 But not as the offence, so also is the free gift.
For if through the offence of one many be dead,
much more the grace of God,
and the gift by grace, which is by one man, Jesus Christ, hath abounded unto many.
16 And not as it was by one that sinned, so is the gift:
for the judgment was by one to condemnation,
but the free gift is of many offences unto justification.
17 For if by one man's offence death reigned by one;
much more they which receive abundance of grace
and of the gift of righteousness shall reign in life by one, Jesus Christ.)
18 Therefore as by the offence of one
judgment came upon all men to condemnation;
even so by the righteousness of one
the free gift came upon all men unto justification of life.
19 For as by one man's disobedience many were made sinners,
so by the obedience of one shall many be made righteous.

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Do you agree with me that Sodom will be restored?

Ezekiel 16 (NIV)
https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Ezekiel+16&version=NIV
46 *Your older sister was Samaria,* who lived to the north of you with her daughters; and *your younger sister,* who lived to the south of you with her daughters, *was Sodom.*  47 You not only followed their ways and copied their detestable practices, but *in all your ways you soon became more depraved than they.*  48 As surely as I live, declares the Sovereign Lord, *your sister Sodom* and her daughters *never did what you and your daughters have done.*

49 Now this was the sin of *your sister Sodom:*  She and her daughters were arrogant, overfed and unconcerned; they did not help the poor and needy.  50 They were haughty and *did detestable things before me.  Therefore I did away with them* as you have seen.  51 Samaria did not commit half the sins you did.  You have done more detestable things than they, and have made your sisters seem righteous by all these things you have done.  52 Bear your disgrace, for you have furnished some justification for your sisters. Because your sins were more vile than theirs, they appear more righteous than you. So then, be ashamed and bear your disgrace, for you have made your sisters appear righteous.

53 However, *I will restore the fortunes of Sodom* and her daughters and of Samaria and her daughters, and your fortunes along with them, 54 so that you may bear your disgrace and be ashamed of all you have done in giving them comfort. 55 And your sisters, *Sodom* with her daughters *and Samaria* with her daughters, *will return to what they were before;* and you and your daughters will return to what you were before. 56 You would not even mention your sister Sodom in the day of your pride, 57 before your wickedness was uncovered. Even so, you are now scorned by the daughters of Edom and all her neighbors and the daughters of the Philistines-- all those around you who despise you. 58 You will bear the consequences of your lewdness and your detestable practices, declares the Lord.

59 This is what the Sovereign Lord says:  *I will deal with you as you deserve,* because you have despised my oath by breaking the covenant.  60 *Yet I will remember the covenant I made with you in the days of your youth, and I will establish an everlasting covenant with you.*  61 Then *you will* remember your ways and be ashamed when you *receive your sisters,* both those who are older than you and those who are younger.  I will give them to you as daughters, but not on the basis of my covenant with you.  62 So I will establish my covenant with you, and you will know that I am the Lord.  63 Then, *when I make atonement for you for all you have done,* you will remember and be ashamed and never again open your mouth because of your humiliation, declares the Sovereign Lord.

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"You bring shame to the continuation folks by claiming God told you this false doctrine was right"
I don't recall saying that.  What were my exact words?  (I think you're imagining things.)
If a Christian does something shameful, do you think that brings shame to all Christians?

"You put God on some kind of human judgment level and call Him a sadist. Romans 9 says who are you O man to question God?"
I'm questioning _your view_ of God.  Do you think you're God?

"Your imaginations are not God speaking"
Saddam Hussein and Hitler tortured certain people for a finite length of time.  Some imagine God to be a being that tortures people for an infinitely-long period of time, a being who is more cruel than Saddam Hussein, and more cruel than Hitler.

"did you notice that the one sin Adam and Eve did caused God to curse all mankind, and all of creation"
I see that the ground got cursed by God.  Reference that God cursed:
"all mankind"?  "all of creation"?

"it caused God to come into the flesh to suffer and to have every sin laid upon Him"
Including the sin of those who don't believe in/ trust in Jesus this side of the grave?

"Hod has killed people for picking up sticks on the sabbath and had entire families burned to death for stealing?"
Reference?  I don't recall reading about "Hod."

"Have you read Job and seen that God sent Satan to kill all of his children"
I've read Job.  Reference that "God sent Satan to kill all of his children"?

The Old Testament and New Testament contain progressive revelation about the nature of God.  Some ideas about God, e.g. that God prompted King David to sin by taking a census, turned out to be incorrect or incomplete understandings.  Jesus is the definitive revelation of the nature of God; every Old Testament passage about God must be viewed through the lens of Jesus, who was God in an earth-suit.

Do you think God prompted David to sin by taking a census?  (A later, more theologically-informed rendition has satan and not God prompting the sin.)

2 Samuel 24
1 Again the anger of the Lord was aroused against Israel, and He moved David against them to say, "Go, number Israel and Judah."  10 And David's heart condemned him after he had numbered the people. So David said to the Lord, "I have sinned greatly in what I have done; but now, I pray, O Lord, take away the iniquity of Your servant, for I have done very foolishly."
1 Chronicles 21
1 Now Satan stood up against Israel, and moved David to number Israel.  7 And God was displeased with this thing; therefore He struck Israel. 8 So David said to God, "I have sinned greatly, because I have done this thing; but now, I pray, take away the iniquity of Your servant, for I have done very foolishly."

"Have you noticed the desperate call of the prophets and apostles for people to repent and believe?"
Yes.
"The orthodox Christian belief is in an eternal Hell"
Even in Eastern Christianity?

"Hell is something to fear"
Reference?  I thought we were only supposed to have a godly fear of/ respect for God.

"you are determined to reject the Scripture"
Do you disagree with any of this?:

Romans 5 (Aramaic Bible in Plain English), biblehub
6 But surely because of our weakness,
at this time The Messiah has died for the sake of the wicked.
7 For a man will hardly die for the sake of the wicked,
however a man perhaps may dare to die for the sake of the good.
8 Here God demonstrates his love for us,
because if when we were sinners,
The Messiah died in our place,
9 How much more therefore,
would we all the more be justified now by his blood
and be saved from wrath by him?
10 For if when we were enemies,
God was reconciled with us in the death of his Son,
how much more therefore, in his reconciliation,
shall we live all the more by his life?

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"Scripture being inerrant and infallible"
There are contradictions in the present-day scriptures texts.

"your idea of universalism is sin"
Reference? Is it a violation of:
1 of the 10 Commandments?
1 of the 2 commandments Jesus highlighted?

"You cite Romans 5 and stop at 5:11 maybe because 5:12,18-19 show all humanity was cursed by God because of Adams sin"
I don't notice any references to God doing any cursing below.
Do you agree with verses 18-19?:

Romans 5:12-19 (KJV)
12 Wherefore, as by one man sin entered into the world, and death by sin;
and so death passed upon all men, for that all have sinned:
13 (For until the law sin was in the world:
but sin is not imputed when there is no law.
14 Nevertheless death reigned from Adam to Moses,
even over them that had not sinned after the similitude of Adam's transgression,
who is the figure of him that was to come.
15 But not as the offence, so also is the free gift.
For if through the offence of one many be dead,
much more the grace of God,
and the gift by grace, which is by one man, Jesus Christ, hath abounded unto many.
16 And not as it was by one that sinned, so is the gift:
for the judgment was by one to condemnation,
but the free gift is of many offences unto justification.
17 For if by one man's offence death reigned by one;
much more they which receive abundance of grace
and of the gift of righteousness shall reign in life by one, Jesus Christ.)
18 Therefore as by the offence of one
judgment came upon all men to condemnation;
even so by the righteousness of one
the free gift came upon all men unto justification of life.
19 For as by one man's disobedience many were made sinners,
so by the obedience of one shall many be made righteous.

"Jesus did not die for all humanity as many Scriptures point out"
2 examples?

"Do you think Jesus died for Esau"
Yes.
"who the Bible says God hated before he was even born?"
I know in the NT, many translations have Jesus saying followers of him need to hate their own family members. A better translation of the original Aramaic speaks of 'putting aside' rather than hating. How certain are you that God hated Esau? Do you think it's OK to hate people? Do you think Jesus hated anyone?

"Or Judas who was destined to Hell?"
Jesus loved Judas greatly, and died for him.

"Or anyone who is in Hell?"
Jesus died for everyone that was, is, and will be in hell. Including those that died during the Flood, to whom Jesus even went to and preached to:

1 Peter 3 (Aramaic Bible in Plain English)
18 Because The Messiah also died once for the sake of our sins,
The Righteous One in the place of sinners,
to bring you to God,
and he died in body and lived in his Spirit.
19 And he preached to those souls who were held in Sheol,
20 These who from the first were not convinced in the days of Noah when the long-suffering of God commanded that there would be an ark, upon the hope of their repentance, and only eight souls entered it and were kept alive by water.

"Jesus sacrifice was perfect and paid the price in full for all believers"
Reference for "for all believers"? Do you think Jesus' sacrifice purchased physical healing for anybody, and if so, who? (only 'believers'?)

"The census with David has God asking who will go and deceive David"
Reference?

"God is the one who gives Job over to Satan and allows Satan to kill his family and give him a disease. The devil is Gods dog on a leash"
Everything that happens, God allowed to happen. Do you think God has the devil go tempt people?

"it is difficult for you to read through the Bible through the faulty theological lenss of universalism and submit to what the Bible actually says"
Submit in what ways?

"heaven being called the same eternal as hell is called"
Reference?

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Do you agree with me that Jesus was completely innocent, completely sinless?
Do you think it's just to punish somebody that's completely innocent for the sins committed by somebody else?

What is the doctrine of penal substitution?
https://www.gotquestions.org/penal-substitution.html
Answer: In the simplest possible terms, the biblical doctrine of penal substitution holds that Jesus' sacrifice on the cross takes the place of the punishment we ought to suffer for our sins. As a result, God's justice is satisfied, and those who accept Christ can be forgiven and reconciled to God.
The word penal means "related to punishment for offenses," and substitution means "the act of a person taking the place of another." So, penal substitution is the act of a person taking the punishment for someone else's offenses. In Christian theology, Jesus Christ is the Substitute, and the punishment He took (at the cross) was ours, based on our sin (1 Peter 2:24).
According to the doctrine of penal substitution, God's perfect justice demands some form of atonement for sin. Humanity is depraved, to such an extent that we are spiritually dead and incapable of atoning for sin in any way (Ephesians 2:1). Penal substitution means Jesus' death on the cross propitiated, or satisfied, God's requirement for justice. God's mercy allows Jesus to take the punishment we deserve for our sins. As a result, Jesus' sacrifice serves as a substitute for anyone who accepts it. In a very direct sense, Jesus is exchanged for us as the recipient of sin's penalty."

Zechariah 8:20-23
"If you read the CONTEXT of that chapter, it is regarding the House of Judah. This was who was in Jerusalem/Judea AFTER the return from captivity and who were blessed go have their nation back though partially under control of the Roman empire. It was this very thing that helped them become guilty of playing the Harlot.  'to entreat the favor of the LORD." 'Let us go at once to entreat the favor of the LORD..
Other 'nations' came to get their part of the blessings (financial, not spiritual) abundance they saw Judah having.
This doesn't mean they became descendants of Abraham, or members of the Covenant. It meant The house of Judah (Not House of Israel) was again prosperous."

So when when "many... strong nations [1471 wə?ḡō?w?yim/ וְגוֹיִ֣ם/ and nations] shall come to seek the LORD of hosts in Jerusalem, and to pray before the LORD," the goyim lack interest in being devoted to YHWH, but are interested in what YHWH can do to boost their financial prosperity?

And when "ten men from every language of the nations [1471 hag?gō?w?yim/ הַגּוֹיִ֑ם/ of the nations] shall grasp the sleeve of a Jewish [3064 yə?hū?ḏ?/ יְהוּדִ֜י/ a Jew] man, saying, 'Let us go with you, for we have heard that God is with you,'" the goyim are interested in monetary wealth?

And the goyim earnestly desire to accompany Yehudians in "go[ing] and pray[ing] before the LORD, and seek[ing] the LORD of hosts," solely for a potential boost to their financial prosperity?

Zechariah 8 (NKJV), biblehub
https://biblehub .com/interlinear/zechariah/8-20.htm
https://biblehub .com/interlinear/zechariah/8-22.htm
https://biblehub .com/interlinear/zechariah/8-23.htm
20 "Thus says [Hebrew: 559 ā?mar/ אָמַ֖ר/ says] the LORD [3068 Yah?weh/ יְהוָ֣ה/ Yahweh] of hosts [6635 ṣə?ḇā??ō?wṯ/ צְבָא֑וֹת/ of hosts]:
'Peoples [5971 am?m?m/ עַמִּ֔ים/ Peoples] shall yet come,
Inhabitants of many cities;
21 The inhabitants of one city shall go to another, saying,
"Let us continue to go and pray before the LORD,
And seek the LORD of hosts.
I myself will go also."
22 Yes, many [7227 rab?b?m/ רַבִּים֙/ many] peoples [5971 am?m?m/ עַמִּ֤ים/ peoples] and strong nations [1471 wə?ḡō?w?yim/ וְגוֹיִ֣ם/ and nations]
Shall come to seek the LORD of hosts in Jerusalem,
And to pray before the LORD.
23 "Thus says the LORD of hosts:
'In those days ten men from every language of the nations [1471 hag?gō?w?yim/ הַגּוֹיִ֑ם/ of the nations] shall grasp the sleeve of a Jewish [3064 yə?hū?ḏ?/ יְהוּדִ֜י/ a Jew] man, saying,
"Let us go with you, for we have heard that God is with you." ' "

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' As for your questions about Romans....simply SWAP the term "gentiles' for the term "nations" (like the YLT does) because "gentiles" being that of a Latin derivative is NOT the Hebrew "goy" or Greek "ethnos".
The "wild branches" were those descendants of Abraham who were living lawless in the nations, uncircumcised in the flesh (pagans were never "guilty" of being uncircumcised in the flesh because it wasn't a covenant sign for THEM to practice.)
The "natural" branches were those "keeping the Law" (house of Judah). '

Who were the broken-off branches?

"pagans were never 'guilty' of being uncircumcised in the flesh"
"The 'wild branches' were those descendants of Abraham who were living lawless in the nations, uncircumcised in the flesh"
Are you aware of any OT uses of 'uncircumcised' to refer to:
"descendants of Abraham who were living lawless in the nations, uncircumcised in the flesh"?
pagans?

6189. arel
https://biblehub .com/hebrew/6189.htm
arel: having foreskin (uncircumcised)
Original Word: עָרֵל
Part of Speech: Noun Masculine
Transliteration: arel
Phonetic Spelling: (aw-rale')
Definition: having foreskin (uncircumcised)
NAS Exhaustive Concordance
Word Origin
from the same as orlah
Definition
having foreskin (uncircumcised)
NASB Translation
closed (1), forbidden (1), uncircumcised (31), unskilled (2).

Brown-Driver-Briggs
עָרֵל35 adjective having foreskin, i.e. uncircumcised; ? ׳ע Exodus 12:48 5t.; construct עֶ֫רֶל Ezekiel 44:9 (twice in verse); עֲרַל Exodus 6:12,30; feminine עֲרִלָה Jeremiah 6:10; plural עֲרִלִים Leviticus 19:23 20t.; construct עַרְלֵי Jeremiah 9:25 2t.; ? uncircumcised person Exodus 12:48; Joshua 5:7 (P), Philistines Judges 14:3; Judges 15:18; 1 Samuel 14:6; 1 Samuel 17:26,36; 1 Samuel 31:4; 2 Samuel 1:20; 1 Chronicles 10:4; of other nations Isaiah 52:1; Jeremiah 9:25; especially as slain Ezekiel 28:10; Ezekiel 31:18; Ezekiel 32:19 9t. 32; in Ezekiel 32:27 read מֵעוֺלָם so Hi and most (see on meaning Toy31, 18); עָרֵל זָכָר uncircumcised male Genesis 17:14 (P); בָּשָׂר ׳ע Ezekiel 44:7,9 uncircumcised of flesh; figurative of fruit trees Leviticus 19:23 (compare [עָרַל] above); שְׂפָתַיִם ׳ע figurative of incapacity to speak Exodus 6:12,30; of character, לב ׳ע Jeremiah 9:25; Ezekiel 44:7,9, compare לֵבָבָם הֶעָרֵל Leviticus 26:41 (P), עֲרֵלָה אָזְנָם Jeremiah 6:10 their ear is uncircumcised (unreceptive).
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Englishman's Concordance
Genesis 17:14
KJV: And the uncircumcised man child whose
Exodus 6:12
NAS: listen to me, for I am unskilled in speech?
KJV: me, who [am] of uncircumcised lips?
Exodus 6:30
NAS: Behold, I am unskilled in speech;
KJV: the LORD, Behold, I [am] of uncircumcised lips,
Exodus 12:48
NAS: But no uncircumcised person may eat
Leviticus 19:23
NAS: years it shall be forbidden to you; [it] shall not be eaten.
KJV: years shall it be as uncircumcised unto you: it shall not be eaten
Leviticus 26:41
NAS: if their uncircumcised heart
KJV: if then their uncircumcised hearts
Joshua 5:7
KJV: circumcised: for they were uncircumcised, because they had not circumcised

Judges 14:3
NAS: a wife from the uncircumcised Philistines?
Judges 15:18
NAS: into the hands of the uncircumcised?
1 Samuel 14:6
KJV: unto the garrison of these uncircumcised: it may be that the LORD
1 Samuel 17:26
KJV: from Israel? for who [is] this uncircumcised Philistine,
1 Samuel 17:36
KJV: and the bear: and this uncircumcised Philistine
1 Samuel 31:4
KJV: and thrust me through therewith; lest these uncircumcised come
2 Samuel 1:20
NAS: The daughters of the uncircumcised will exult.
KJV: lest the daughters of the uncircumcised triumph.
1 Chronicles 10:4
KJV: and thrust me through therewith; lest these uncircumcised come

Isaiah 52:1
NAS: city; For the uncircumcised and the unclean
Jeremiah 6:10
NAS: their ears are closed And they cannot
KJV: behold, their ear [is] uncircumcised, and they cannot
Jeremiah 9:26
INT: for all the nations are uncircumcised and all the house
Jeremiah 9:26
INT: the house of Israel are uncircumcised of heart
Ezekiel 28:10
NAS: the death of the uncircumcised By the hand
Ezekiel 31:18
NAS: in the midst of the uncircumcised, with those who were slain
Ezekiel 32:19
NAS: and make your bed with the uncircumcised.'
Ezekiel 32:21
NAS: they lie still, the uncircumcised, slain
Ezekiel 32:24
NAS: down uncircumcised to the lower parts
KJV: which are gone down uncircumcised into the nether parts
INT: who went uncircumcised of the earth
Ezekiel 32:25
NAS: it, they are all uncircumcised, slain
INT: her graves are all uncircumcised slain the sword

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Q: "Have those 'those Lost sheep of Israel who were scattered' come in?"

A:  Yep. All who were called, came in and then the end, when the judgment was passed onto Jerusalem, the Temple and Christ was "revealed" as the King/Judge/Messiah. To THAT GENERATION He said it would.
Mat 24:14 And this gospel of the kingdom will be preached in all the world as a testimony to all nations, and then the end will come.
The scope of which was understood & Fulfilled according to Paul...& Luke...& John
Acts 17:6
But when they could not find them, they dragged Jason and some other brothers before the city officials, shouting, "These men who have turned the world upside down have now come here,
Romans 10:18
But I ask, did they not hear? Indeed they did: "Their voice has gone out into all the earth, their words to the ends of the world."
Romans 16:26 but now is manifested, and by the Scriptures of the prophets, according to the commandment of the eternal God, has been made known to all the nations, leading to obedience of faith;
2 Timothy 4:17 But the Lord stood with me and strengthened me, so that through me the proclamation might be *fully accomplished*, and that all the nations might hear; and I was rescued out of the lion?s mouth.
Colossians 1:6
that has come to you. All over the world this gospel is bearing fruit and growing, just as it has been doing among you since the day you heard it and truly understood the grace of God.
Colossians 1:23
if indeed you continue in your faith, established and firm, not moved from the hope of the gospel you heard, which has been proclaimed in all creation under heaven, and of which I, Paul, have become a servant.
Revelation 3:10
Because you have kept My command to endure with patience, I will also keep you from the hour of testing that is about to come upon the whole world, to test those who dwell on the earth.
?It is the last hour.? I Jn. 2:18
Even now many antichrists have arisen; from this we know that it is the last hour.? I Jn. 2:18;
Compare Matt. 24:23-34
I also will keep you from the hour of testing which is about to come upon the whole world.? Rev. 3:10
The form of this world is passing away. I Cor. 7:31
Now these things ?were written for our instruction, upon whom the ends of the ages have come. I Cor. 10:11
Rev 22:10 And he said to me, ?Do not seal up the words of the prophecy of this book, for the time is near. 11?Let the one who does wrong, still do wrong; and the one who is filthy, still be filthy;...

Who are "the children of men" in [Rev 21:3]"the Tabernacle of God is with the children of men"?  (only biological descendants of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob?)
Who are "the nations" in [v. 24]"the nations walk in its light and the Kings of The Earth bring glory to it"?
Who are "the nations" in [v. 26]"they shall bring to it the glory and honor of the nations"?

Revelation 21 (Aramaic Bible in Plain English), biblehub
1 And I saw new Heavens and a new Earth,
for the former Heavens and the former Earth had departed,
and the Sea was no more.
2 And I saw The Holy City, New Jerusalem,
descending from Heaven from beside God,
prepared like a bride adorned for her husband.
3 And I heard a great voice from Heaven that said,
"Behold, the Tabernacle of God is with the children of men,
and he dwells with them and they shall be his people
and the same God is with them and shall be their God.
4 And he shall wipe away every tear from their eyes,
and from now on there shall not be death, neither grieving, nor clamor,
neither shall there be disease again, for His sake."
5 And I walked and he who sat on the throne said to me,
"Behold, I make all things new."
And he said to me,
"Write: 'These words are trustworthy and true."
6And he said to me,
"They are done.
I am Alap and I am Tau,
The Source and The Fulfillment.
I shall give to the thirsty one from the fountain of the water of life without charge."
....
9 And one of the seven Angels who had with them the seven vessels full of the seven last plagues, came and he spoke with me saying,
"Come; I shall show you the bride, the wife of the Lamb."
10 And he carried me in The Spirit to a great and high mountain and he showed me The Holy City Jerusalem, coming down from Heaven from the presence of God, 11 And it had the glory of God and its light was as the likeness of precious stones, like Jasper red quartz, as the appearance of crystal.
....
the twelfth, Amethyst, 21 And twelve gates and twelve pearls, one to each, and every one of the gates was of one pearl, but the street of the city of pure gold, as if there was glass in it.
22 And I saw no Temple in it, for THE LORD JEHOVAH God Almighty, he is its Temple. 23 And The Lamb and The City do not need the Sun or the Moon to illuminate it, for the glory of God illuminates it, and The Lamb is its lamp. 24 And the nations walk in its light and the Kings of The Earth bring glory to it. 25 And its gates shall not be shut by day, for there shall be no night there. 26 And they shall bring to it the glory and honor of the nations.

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" Again, saying what others will do, grasping at a Jewish mans sleeve because they recognize God was treating them favorably...IN NO WAY includes those others into the Promises or Covenants with the Israelites.
God manifested His greatness to Nations as being supreme....and yet did not include them into the narrative in which Israel was.
The USA demonstrated power and supremacy in war and commerce during a period of time where other nations and leaders couples themselves with the USA...but DID NOT BECOME AMERICAN CITIZENS.
Similar thing going on in the scriptures. Israel was a POWERFUL nation who had GOD on their Side.
Those who would recognize that and bless Israel, would in turn...be blessed.
Do not conflate being "blessed" with sharing in a covenant.
Example: Isaac vs Ishamel
Genesis 17:20 ?As for Ishmael, I have heard you; behold, I will bless him, and will make him fruitful and will multiply him exceedingly. He shall become the father of twelve princes, and I will make him a great nation. 21?But My covenant I will establish with Isaac, whom Sarah will bear to you at this season next year.? 22 When He finished talking with him, God went up from Abraham. "

Do you think those who grasped at a Jewish man's sleeve wanted to pray to and hear from the God of Israel?

When Targum Zechariah 8 refers to [v. 2]"I am taking revenge for Zion with great jealousy, and there is great anger from before me against the nations which provoked her," to whom does "the nations" refer? (biological descendants of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob who weren't practicing Judaism?)

When Tg Zech says [v. 13]"you have been a curse among the nations, O house of Judah and house of Israel," to whom does "the nations" refer?

When Tg Zech says [v. 22]"many nations and powerful kingdoms shall come to seek instruction from the Lord of hosts in Jerusalem, and to pray before the Lord," to whom does "many nations and powerful kingdoms" refer?

When Tg Zech says [v. 23]"In those days when ten men from the nations of every tongue shall... take hold of the skirt of a Jew, saying, 'We will go with you, for we have heard that the Memra of the Lord is your support,'" to whom does "men from the nations of every tongue" refer?

Targum Zechariah 8:1-8, 13, 18-23, in
_The Targum of the Minor Prophets_ (The Aramaic Bible, Vol 14) (1989), 259pp., 201-203
https://www.amazon.com/Targum-Minor-Prophets-Aramaic-Bible/dp/0814654894/
1. And there was a word of prophecy from the Lord of hosts, saying,
2. Thus says the Lord of hosts,
I am taking revenge for Zion with great jealousy,
and there is great anger from before me against the nations which provoked her.
3. Thus says the Lord,
I will return to Zion and make my Shekinah dwell in the midst of Jerusalem,
and Jerusalem shall be called the city of truth,
and the hill of the sanctuary of the Lord of hosts, the holy hill.
4. Thus says the Lord of hosts,
There shall again be old men and old women sitting in the streets of Jerusalem--
each shall be protected by his good works-- for [e]very age.
5. And the streets of the city of Jerusalem shall be filled with youths and maidens singing praises in her open squares. 
6. Thus says the Lord of hosts,
When my fear is precious in the eyes of the remnant of this people,
in those days will they also be precious before me,
says the Lord of hosts.
7. Thus says the Lord of hosts,
Behold. I will deliver my people from the east country and from the west country.
8. And I will bring them in
and they shall dwell in the midst of Jerusalem
and shall be a people before me
and I will be a God to them,
in truth and in righteousness.
....
13. and it shall be (that) as you have been a curse among the nations,
O house of Judah and house of Israel,
so will I deliver you and you shall be blessed.
....
18. And there was a word of prophecy from the Lord of hosts with me, saying,
19. "Thus says the Lord of hosts,
the fourth fast and the fifth fast and the seventh fast and the tenth fast shall be to the house of Judah for exultation and gladness and joyful assemblies; so love truth and peace.
20. Thus says the Lord of hosts,
There shall yet come peoples,
even the inhabitants of many cities.
21. And the inhabitants of one shall go with another, saying,
'Let us by all means go to pray before the Lord,
and to seek instruction from the Lord of hosts.'
One shall say to the other,
'I shall indeed go.'
22. And many nations and powerful kingdoms shall come
to seek instruction from the Lord of hosts in Jerusalem,
and to pray before the Lord.
23. Thus says the Lord of hosts,
In those days when ten men from the nations of every tongue
shall take hold, they shall take hold of the skirt of a Jew, saying,
'We will go with you,
for we have heard that
the Memra of the Lord is your support.'"

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"As for OT references referring to descendants of Abraham living lawless in the nations...
sure thing...here ya go!
Deut 4:25 ?When you become the father of children and children?s children and have remained long in the land, and act corruptly, and make an idol in the form of anything, and do that which is evil in the sight of the LORD your God so as to provoke Him to anger, 26 I call heaven and earth to witness against you today, that you will surely perish quickly from the land where you are going over the Jordan to possess it. You shall not live long on it, but will be utterly destroyed.
27 ?The LORD will scatter you among the peoples, and you will be left few in number among the nations where the LORD drives you. 28?There you will serve gods, the work of man?s hands, wood and stone, which neither see nor hear nor eat nor smell. 29?But from there you will seek the LORD your God, and you will find Him if you search for Him with all your heart and all your soul. 30?When you are in distress and all these things have come upon you, in the latter days you will return to the LORD your God and listen to His voice. 31?For the LORD your God is a compassionate God; He will not fail you nor destroy you nor forget the covenant with your fathers which He swore to them.  Also Hosea 4, describes Israel living as pagans, disobeying the Law. They were "cut off" and called 'not my people".
However those same would find grace and be called my people....later. (ie. in the generation of Messiah)"

So some descendants of Abraham lived lawlessly.  Are you aware of any instances in the OT where lawless descendants of Abraham were referred to as:
'uncircumcised/ still possessing foreskins'?
pagans/heathens?

" Re: Revelation 21:3, that is a reference to
Ezekiel 37: 26 And I will make a covenant of peace with them; it will be an everlasting covenant. I will establish them and multiply them, and I will set My sanctuary among them forever. 27 My dwelling place will be with them; I will be their God, and they will be My people. 28 Then the nations will know that I the LORD sanctify Israel, when My sanctuary is among them forever.' "
Where the 2 houses (House of Judah and House of Israel) are finally come together in peace under the banner of the root of Jesse (Messiah), the 2 sticks made one...no longer fighting...the RESTORATION of ISRAEL as a whole...as alluded to by Paul in Ephesian 2: (uncircumcised in the flesh) vs (circumcised) ..... "

'Reminiscent of' isn't necessarily the same as 'says the same thing as.'
Who are "the children of men" in [Rev 21:3]"the Tabernacle of God is with the children of men"?  (only biological descendants of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob?)
Who are "the nations" in [v. 24]"the nations walk in its light and the Kings of The Earth bring glory to it"?
Who are "the nations" in [v. 26]"they shall bring to it the glory and honor of the nations"?

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Do any of the "nations" in some of those contexts refer to descendants of Abraham?
In what you quoted of Deut 4, I don't see Abraham's descendants being called pagans, despite reading it several times.
Do you have a scripture where you think Abraham's descendants are called 'uncircumcised' (in their physical bodies)?

no, I dont believe God tortures human beings or anything, forever..thats too hideous to contemplate.

"A) mistranslating aiōnion into eternal rather than age/world does not do change the thrust of why I appealed to that verse"

What do you conclude from this?:
Matthew 25:46 (Young's Literal), biblehub, my brackets
And these shall go away to punishment age-[en]during,
but the righteous to life age-[en]during.'

"B) Daniel does NOT teach that all mankind will be resurrected. The CONTEXT is 'God's people' (Israelites).
Daniel 12:1... the great prince who stands guard over the sons of *your people* ... ...and at that time *your people*, everyone who is found written in the book, will be rescued. 2 'Many of those who sleep in the dust of the ground will awake, these to everlasting life, but the others to disgrace and everlasting contempt.
'These' refers to those of HIS PEOPLE who were found written in the book and rescued."

My mistake.
The OT has evolving views of the afterlife.  The Sadducees flatly rejected a resurrection for anybody.  Did Jesus "teach that all mankind will be resurrected"?

Matthew 12 (Aramaic Bible in Plain English)
41 The Ninevite men will arise in the judgment with this generation
and will condemn it,
for they repented at the preaching of Jonah,
and behold, one greater than Jonah is here.
42 The queen of The South will arise in the judgment with this generation
and will condemn it,
for she came from the ends of the earth to hear the wisdom of Solomon,
and behold, one greater than Solomon is here.

"There is NO Hebrew prophecies ANYWHERE that include non-Israelites as Abraham's descendants and heirs of the kingdom. The COVENANT was with the House of Israel and House of Judah"

When was that covenant formulated?
Did God make a covenant with Araham?

"C) either in this age or in the one to come.'
How about the age after that?

'this age' was the age they were in.
'age to come' was the age after that.
There is NO mention of an age after the age to come"

Of which age was the millennium age?

"'this age' was the age they were in.
'age to come' was the age after that.
There is NO mention of an age after the age to come"

Not even here?:
Ephesians 2:7 (Young's Literal)
https://biblehub .com/ephesians/2-7.htm
that He might show, in the ages that are coming,
the exceeding riches of His grace in kindness toward us in Christ Jesus,

https://biblehub .com/interlinear/ephesians/2-7.htm
165 [e]/ aiōsin/ αἰῶσιν/ ages/ N-DMP

I'm guessing "P" stands for "plural."

"D) 'All of God's judgments serve a positive purpose.'
Circular reasoning much?"

I don't see how that's circular reasoning.  Care to elaborate?

"E) 'Hebrews 12:6 (NIV)
because the Lord disciplines the one he loves,
and he chastens everyone he accepts as his son.'
Yep, and God doesn't LOVE 'everyone', which is made clear by that very statement alone...as well as these...
**Psalm 147:19 He declares His words to Jacob,
His statutes and His ordinances to Israel.
20 He has not dealt thus with any nation;
And as for His ordinances, they have not known them.
Praise the LORD!
**Amos 3:2 'You only have I chosen among all the families of the earth;
Therefore I will punish you for all your iniquities.'
Deut 7:7 'The LORD did not set His love on you nor choose you because you were more in number than any of the peoples, for you were the fewest of all peoples, 8 but because the LORD loved you and kept the oath which He swore to your forefathers, the LORD brought you out by a mighty hand and redeemed you from the house of slavery, from the hand of Pharaoh king of Egypt. 9 'Know therefore that the LORD your God, He is God, the faithful God, who keeps His covenant and His lovingkindness to a thousandth generation with those who love Him and keep His commandments; 10 but repays those who hate Him to their faces, to destroy them; He will not delay with him who hates Him, He will repay him to his face. 11 'Therefore, you shall keep the commandment and the statutes and the judgments which I am commanding you today, to do them."

At the time God sent Jonah to Nineveh to preach repentence, did God love Nineveh?

Jonah 1 (Young's Literal), biblehub
1 And there is a word of Jehovah unto Jonah son of Amittai, saying:
2 'Rise, go unto Nineveh, the great city, and proclaim against it that their wickedness hath come up before Me.'
Jonah 3
1 And there is a word of Jehovah unto Jonah a second time, saying,
2 'Rise, go unto Nineveh, the great city, and proclaim unto it the proclamation that I am speaking unto thee;' 3 and Jonah riseth, and he goeth unto Nineveh, according to the word of Jehovah. And Nineveh hath been a great city before God, a journey of three days. ....
Jonah 4
10 And Jehovah saith, 'Thou hast had pity on the gourd, for which thou didst not labour, neither didst thou nourish it, which a son of a night was, and a son of a night perished, 11 and I-- have not I pity on Nineveh, the great city, in which there are more than twelve myriads of human beings, who have not known between their right hand and their left-- and much cattle!'

How do you think John 3:16 should be understood?
('For God loved Israelites so much that he gave up his Son, The Only One, so that Israelites-- and _only_ biological descendants of Abraham Isaac and Jacob-- who trust in him shall not be lost, but shall have the world/age of life'?)

John 3 (Aramaic Bible in Plain English)
14 And just as Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness,
thus The Son of Man is going to be lifted up,
15 So that every person who believes in him shall not be lost,
but shall have eternal life.
16 For God loved the world in this way:
so much that he would give up his Son, The Only One,
so that everyone who trusts in him shall not be lost,
but he shall have eternal life.
17 For God did not send his Son into the world that he would condemn the world,
but that he would give life to the world by him.
18 Whoever believes in him is not judged,
and whoever does not believe is judged already,
because he does not believe in The Name of The Only Begotten Son of God.
19 This is the judgment:
The Light has come into the world
and the children of men loved the darkness more than The Light,
because their works were evil.
20 For everyone who does what is hateful,
hates The Light and does not come to The Light,
lest his works should be convicted.
21 But he who does The Truth
comes to The Light,
so that his works may be revealed,
that they are performed by God."

How do you think John 1:12-13 should be understood?
('those biological descendants of Abraham that received him, to them he gave authority to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his Name, those who had not been born of blood, nor of the desire of the flesh, nor of the desire of a man, but of God'?)

John 1 (Aramaic Bible in Plain English)
9 For That One was The Light of Truth,
which enlightens every person that comes into the world.
10 He was in the world,
and the world existed by his hand,
and the world knew him not.
11 He came unto his own,
and his own received him not.
12 But those that received him,
to them he gave authority to become the sons of God,
even to them that believe on his Name,
13 Those who had not been born of blood,
nor of the desire of the flesh,
nor of the desire of a man,
but of God.

When Daniel 2 speaks of a [v. 35]"rock that... became a huge mountain and filled the whole earth," and says [v. 44]"the God of heaven will set up a kingdom that will never be destroyed, nor will it be left to another people. It will crush all those kingdoms and bring them to an end, but it will itself endure forever," do you think that that God-instituted kingdom was to reign over?
only biological descendants of Abraham?
everybody?

Daniel 2 (NIV), https://biblehub.com/niv/daniel/2.htm
34 While you were watching, a rock was cut out, but not by human hands. It struck the statue on its feet of iron and clay and smashed them. 35 Then the iron, the clay, the bronze, the silver and the gold were all broken to pieces and became like chaff on a threshing floor in the summer. The wind swept them away without leaving a trace. But the rock that struck the statue became a huge mountain and filled the whole earth. 36 "This was the dream, and now we will interpret it to the king.  ....
44 "In the time of those kings, the God of heaven will set up a kingdom that will never be destroyed, nor will it be left to another people. It will crush all those kingdoms and bring them to an end, but it will itself endure forever. 45 This is the meaning of the vision of the rock cut out of a mountain, but not by human hands-- a rock that broke the iron, the bronze, the clay, the silver and the gold to pieces. "The great God has shown the king what will take place in the future. The dream is true and its interpretation is trustworthy."

When Daniel 7 speaks of someone [v. 13-14]"as a son of man" coming "with the clouds of the heavens.... and to him is given dominion, and glory, and a kingdom, and all peoples, nations, and languages do serve him, his dominion [is] a dominion age-[en]during, that passeth not away, and his kingdom that which is not destroyed," do you think that that "son of man" was to reign over:
only biological descendants of Abraham?
everybody?

Daniel 7 (Young's Literal), my bracket in v. 14
9 'I was seeing till that thrones have been thrown down, and the Ancient of Days is seated, His garment as snow [is] white, and the hair of his head [is] as pure wool, His throne flames of fire, its wheels burning fire.
10 A flood of fire is proceeding and coming forth from before Him, a thousand thousands do serve Him, and a myriad of myriads before Him do rise up, the Judge is seated, and the books have been opened.  ....
13 'I was seeing in the visions of the night, and lo, with the clouds of the heavens as a son of man was [one] coming, and unto the Ancient of Days he hath come, and before Him they have brought him near.
14 And to him is given dominion, and glory, and a kingdom, and all peoples, nations, and languages do serve him, his dominion [is] a dominion age-[en]during, that passeth not away, and his kingdom that which is not destroyed.

Quote from: darryl on September 23, 2020, 01:25:46 AM
no, I dont believe God tortures human beings or anything, forever..thats too hideous to contemplate.

I FULLY AGREE Darryl

I myself see the word "world" in it's original context as "orderly arrangement" which I see as HIS PLAN

God Loved HIS PLAN so much He gave His only begotten Son (Who I believe is the FULL MANIFESTATION OF HIS GRACE), and man killed God's Grace, and they continue to do so by saying He will torment those who do wrong forever.

:2c:

Quote from: darryl on September 23, 2020, 01:25:46 AM
no, I dont believe God tortures human beings or anything, forever..thats too hideous to contemplate.

Amen! ..or even for a while, lol. Just the self torment of repentence.. just imagine if you?ve been a despot or sex slave trader of children or something! And so some burning shame..

Quote from: jugghead on September 23, 2020, 04:56:39 AM

Quote from: darryl on September 23, 2020, 01:25:46 AM
no, I dont believe God tortures human beings or anything, forever..thats too hideous to contemplate.

I FULLY AGREE Darryl

I myself see the word "world" in it's original context as "orderly arrangement" which I see as HIS PLAN

God Loved HIS PLAN so much He gave His only begotten Son (Who I believe is the FULL MANIFESTATION OF HIS GRACE), and man killed God's Grace, and they continue to do so by saying He will torment those who do wrong forever.

:2c:

Amen! ..and His plan ..design is perfection.. just as He ?is perfect? Mt.5:48, which is good news for all! But just how do you create genuinely able to think and reason beings, and, keep paradise/perfection intact?!

"I said living 'as pagans' in the nations"
Yes, and even worse than pagans:

Ezekiel 16 (NIV)
https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Ezekiel+16&version=NIV
46 Your older sister was Samaria, who lived to the north of you with her daughters; and your younger sister, who lived to the south of you with her daughters, was Sodom.  47 You not only followed their ways and copied their detestable practices, but in all your ways you soon became more depraved than they.  48 As surely as I live, declares the Sovereign Lord, your sister Sodom and her daughters never did what you and your daughters have done.  .... 51 Samaria did not commit half the sins you did.  You have done more detestable things than they, and have made your sisters seem righteous by all these things you have done.  52 Bear your disgrace, for you have furnished some justification for your sisters. Because your sins were more vile than theirs, they appear more righteous than you. So then, be ashamed and bear your disgrace, for you have made your sisters appear righteous. 53 However, I will restore the fortunes of Sodom and her daughters and of Samaria and her daughters, and your fortunes along with them, ....

"Pagan is not really a bible word"
It's a word in the Aramaic NT.  I'd be surprised if the OT lacked any pejorative references to 'pagans.'

Norton, William. 1889. _A Translation, in English Daily Used, of the Peshi to-Syriac Text, and of the Received Greek Text, of Hebrews, James, 1 Peter, and 1 John, With an Introduction on the Peshi to-Syriac Text, and the Revised Greek Text of 1881_ (London: W. K. Bloom), ~140pp. What's below is from a Google books copy; the book is also at
https://archive.org/details/translationineng00nort
In the Introduction, pages l - li:
In the names of places, the Peshi to shows the same independence of the Greek. . . . . in Acts xxi. 7, the Gk. has, Ptolemais; the Syriac has, Acu.

Mr. Jer. Jones, in his work on the Canon, 1798, contends that the use of the name Acu, for Ptolemais, is a decisive proof that the Peshi to must have been made not far in time from A.D. 70, when Jerusalem was destroyed. (vol. i. p. 103. ) He says that the most ancient name of this place among the Israelites was Aco, or Acco, Judges i. 31; that this name was afterwards changed to Ptolemais; that some say it had its new name from Ptolemy Philadelphus, about 250 B. C. He says it is certain that the old name Aco, was antiquated and out of use in the time of the Romans, and that the use of the old name Acu, in the Peshi to, can be accounted for in no other way, but by supposing that the persons for whom the version was made were more acquainted with it, than with the new name Ptolemais; that upon any other supposition it would have been absurd for him to have used Acu. He says, that until the destruction of Jerusalem, one may suppose that the Jews may have retained the old name Aco still, out of fondness for its antiquity; but, he says,

"how they, or any other part of Syria, could, after the Roman conquest, call it by a name different from the Romans, seems to me impossible to conceive. . . To suppose, therefore, that this translation, in which we meet with this old name, instead of the new one, was made at any great distance of time after the destruction of Jerusalem, is to suppose the translator to have substituted an antiquated name known to but few, for a name well known to all" (pp. 104, 105.)

Mr. Jones says that a similar proof that the Peshi to cannot have been made much after A.D. 70, is found in the fact that the Peshi to often calls the Gentiles, as the Jews were accustomed to do, _profane persons_, where the Greek calls them _the nations_, that is, the Gentiles. The Peshi to calls them profane, in Matt. vi. 7; x. 5; xviii.17; Mark vii. 26; John vii. 35; Acts xviii.4, 17; 1 Cor. v. 1; x. 20, 27; xii. 2; 1 Pet. iv.3. The expression is used, therefore, throughout the Peshi to. Mr. Jones says, that it shows that the writer was a Jew, for no other person would have called all the world profane; and that after the destruction of the temple, all Hebrew Christians must have seen that other nations were not to be reckoned unclean and profane in the Jewish sense, and that therefore this version must have been made either before, or soon after, A.D. 70. (On Canon, Vol. i., pp. 106-110.)

"The Israelites would be living lawless and going after 'other gods'...which is what paganism means. (heathen also works)
As far as Abraham's descendants being uncircumcised,...sure.
1 Mac 1:12 In those days there went out of Israel wicked men, and they persuaded many, saying: Let us go and make a covenant with the heathens that are round about us: for since we departed from them, many evils have befallen us.
13 And the word seemed good in their eyes.
14 And some of the people determined to do this, and went to the king: and he gave them license to do after the ordinances of the heathens.
15 And they built a place of exercise in Jerusalem, according to the laws of the nations:
16 And they made themselves prepuces, and departed from the holy covenant, and joined themselves to the heathens, and were sold to do evil:...
....51 And that they should leave their children uncircumcised, and let their souls be defiled with all uncleannesses, and abominations, to the end that they should forget the law, and should change all the justifications of God....."

1 Maccabees 1 (NABRE)
https://www.biblegateway .com/passage/?search=1%20Maccabees%201&version=NABRE
11 In those days there appeared in Israel transgressors of the law who seduced many, saying: "Let us go and make a covenant with the Gentiles all around us; since we separated from them, many evils have come upon us." 12 The proposal was agreeable; 13 some from among the people promptly went to the king, and he authorized them to introduce the ordinances of the Gentiles. 14 Thereupon they built a gymnasium in Jerusalem according to the Gentile custom. 15 They disguised their circumcision and abandoned the holy covenant; they allied themselves with the Gentiles and sold themselves to wrongdoing.

footnote:
1:14 Gymnasium: symbol and center of Greek athletic and intellectual life, it was the chief instrument of Hellenistic culture. Jewish youth were attracted by sports and encouraged to join youth clubs. They received training in military skills and in the duties of citizens. Many were won over to paganism, and some even sought surgical correction of their circumcision (since physical exercise was carried out in nudity).

ΜΑΚΚΑΒΑΙΩΝ Αʹ
https://www.academic-bible.com/en/online-bibles/septuagint-lxx/read-the-bible-text/bibel/text/lesen/stelle/45/10001/19999/ch/9e23c17b8cc101d0fb2eb23b3c14d60a/
13 καὶ προεθυμήθησάν τινες ἀπὸ τοῦ λαοῦ καὶ ἐπορεύθησαν πρὸς τὸν βασιλέα, καὶ ἔδωκεν αὐτοῖς ἐξουσίαν ποιῆσαι τὰ δικαιώματα τῶν ἐθνῶν.

ἐθνῶν
https://biblehub .com/greek/ethno_n_1484.htm

1484. ethnos
https://biblehub .com/greek/1484.htm
ethnos: a race, a nation, pl. the nations (as distinct from Isr.)
Original Word: ἔθνος, ους, τό
Part of Speech: Noun, Neuter
Transliteration: ethnos
Phonetic Spelling: (eth'-nos)
Definition: a race, a nation, the nations (as distinct from Israel)
Usage: a race, people, nation; the nations, heathen world, Gentiles.
HELPS Word-studies
1484 ?thnos (from ethō, "forming a custom, culture") ? properly, people joined by practicing similar customs or common culture; nation(s), usually referring to unbelieving Gentiles (non-Jews).

NAS Exhaustive Concordance
Word Origin
probably from a prim. root
Definition
a race, a nation, pl. the nations (as distinct from Isr.)
NASB Translation
Gentiles (93), nation (30), nations (37), pagans (1), people (2).

Thayer's Greek Lexicon
STRONGS NT 1484: ἔθνος

ἔθνος, ἔθνους, τό:
1. a multitude (whether of men or of beasts) associated or living together; a company, troop, swarm: ἔθνος ἑταίρων, ἔθνος Ἀχαιων, ἔθνος λαῶν, Homer, Iliad; ἔθνος μελισσαων, 2, 87; μυιαων ἐθνεα, ibid. 469.

2. "a multitude of individuals of the same nature or genus (τό ἔθνος τό θῆλυ ἤ ἀρρεν, Xenophon, oec. 7, 26): πᾶν ἔθνος ἀνθρώπων, the human race, Acts 17:26 (but this seems to belong under the next entry).

3. race, nation: Matthew 21:43; Acts 10:35, etc.; ἔθνος ἐπί ἔθνος, Matthew 24:7; Mark 13:8: οἱ ἄρχοντες, οἱ βασιλεῖς τῶν ἐθνῶν, Matthew 20:25; Luke 22:25; used (in the singular) of the Jewish people, Luke 7:5; Luke 23:2; John 11:48, 50-53; John 18:35; Acts 10:22; Acts 24:2 (), ; .

4. (τά ἔθνη, like הַגויִם in the O. T., foreign nations not worshipping the true God, pagans, Gentiles, (cf. Trench, ? xcviii.): Matthew 4:15 (Γαλιλαία τῶν ἐθνῶν), ; (3 John 1:7 R G; cf. Revelation 15:3 G L T Tr WH marginal reading after John 10:7), and very often; in plain contradistinction to the Jews: Romans 3:29; Romans 9:24; (1 Corinthians 1:23 G L T Tr WH): Galatians 2:8, etc.; ὁ λαός (τοῦ Θεοῦ, Jews) καί τά ἔθνη, Luke 2:32; Acts 26:17, 23; Romans 15:10.

5. Paul uses τά ἔθνη even of Gentile Christians: Romans 11:13; Romans 15:27; Romans 16:4; Galatians 2:12 (opposite Galatians 2:13 to οἱ Ἰουδαῖοι, i. e. Jewish Christians), Galatians 2:14; Ephesians 3:1, cf. Ephesians 4:17 (Winers Grammar, ? 59, 4 a.; Buttmann, 130 (114)).

Strong's Exhaustive Concordance
Gentile, heathen
Probably from etho; a race (as of the same habit), i.e. A tribe; specially, a foreign (non-Jewish) one (usually, by implication, pagan) -- Gentile, heathen, nation, people.

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Do you agree with me that even though Ruth and Rahab weren't descendants of Jacob, they were "include[d]... into the Old Covenant"?

Re:
Exodus 12:48-9 "A foreigner residing among you who wants to celebrate the Lord?s Passover must have all the males in his household circumcised; then he may take part like one born in the land. No uncircumcised male may eat it. 49 The same law applies both to the native-born and to the foreigner residing among you."

"has been 'dealt with'"

I don't recall that, and would have to review the conversation.

"What exactly in the Old Testament can you point to that included non-Israeiltes into the Covenant God made with Israel?
This is the ONLY O.T. verse folks bring up often to refute the IO position and it has been found wanting.
Do you have others? Because Jeremiah 31 and Hebrews 8 were VERY clear about who God was making His Covenant with.
The house of Israel and house of Judah."

And the house of Israel was so evil-- even worse than Sodom-- that if God was going to fulfill his promise to restore Israel, to be just he'd have to also restore Sodom.

"If God wanted to...don't you think He could have said...
I'm making a New Covenant with the WHOLE WORLD...or I'm going to include all humanity into the New Covenant, unlike the one I made with only a chosen small group..."

Indeed.  And if God had made explicit the consequences of the murder of his Messiah, the devil would never have pushed for Jesus' murder.

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"So the perfect Son of God who died for me, a sinner, just suffered death?"
No.  Everybody that dies doesn't 'just suffer death.'

"Meaning he just ceased to walk the face of the Earth & his body went into the grave?"
Jesus' dead body did go into a grave.  Jesus stopped walking on earth for a few days, and then he resumed walking on earth.  During the period of time that Jesus was in the grave, he preached in Sheol.

"What does it mean that he became sin or the cup that he drank what was that?"
I dunno; I assume 'the cup he drank' refers to the ordeal he went through.

"So when Jesus said it would be better off that Judas had never been born, he was mistaken, because all that was going to happen is that he would go to death?"
Hell is a very unpleasant place to be.  Judas died and made a trip to hell.  Who knows, maybe he's still there.  But even Judas will eventually be in heaven, if he isn't there already.  Everybody that has ever lived, and that ever will live, will eventually be in heaven.  Some trips there are easier (e.g. for stillborn babies), and some trips there are harder (e.g. those trips that involve a stay in hellish realms).

"So having a millstone wrapped around my neck and being cast into the sea is a better off situation"
"Better" than what?

"What is the urgency in Salvation anyway?"
Spiritual progress this side of the grave can be much much faster than the spiritual progress that's available in the afterlife.  To have real life this side of the grave, and to have a pleasant afterlife experience immediately after death, it's best to bend the knee now to the Messiah.

"The wrath of God is just the annihilation of the Soul?"
No humans get annihilated.  "The wrath of God" is simply a description of the deleterious consequences of doing unloving, ugly things.  God made the universe such that 'bad' things happen from the perpetration of unloving, ugly things.

"Or does somehow an individual in a place for a temporary time atone for his sin and go to heaven?"
One can't atone for one's sins. It's impossible.

"so those that have eternal life are the only ones that go to an eternal heaven and those that have broken the law of God (without Propitiation) go to death, annihilation, or temporary punishment and then annihilation?"
Did what's above answer that?

"God is infinite & holy and one transgression against His law is 'cosmic treason' and deserves an infinite punishment"
How so?  What would "an infinite punishment" look like?  (infinite pain levels for an infinite length of time?)
If someone maliciously injures a high government official, should that criminal be punished more severely than someone who does the exact same malicious injury to a poor begger?

"feel free taking your time thinking these questions through, because this teaching that you're putting forth is quite troubling"
"Troubling"-- how so?

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The Moabite Ruth ('your God will be my God') and the Jericho prostitute Rahab had faith, and had the privledge of being part of the Messiah's lineage.  Having faith in the Messiah is what's involved these days in becoming a son of Abraham.

"As for the devil...
'the Devil' who pushed for Jesus' murder was the Jewish Priest and his messengers.
1 Thess 2:14 ...the very things they suffered from the Jews, 15 who killed both the Lord Jesus and their own prophets, and drove us out as well. They are displeasing to God and hostile to all men,
Luke 24:20
Our chief priests and rulers delivered Him up to the sentence of death, and they crucified Him.
Acts 2:23
He was delivered up by God's set plan and foreknowledge, and you, by the hands of the lawless, put Him to death by nailing Him to the cross.
Acts 7:52
Which of the prophets did your fathers fail to persecute? They even killed those who foretold the coming of the Righteous One. And now you are His betrayers and murderers--
Matthew 23...etc.
devil....diabolos: properly, a slanderer; a false accuser; unjustly criticizing to hurt (malign) and condemn to sever a relationship.
The 'devil' ain't real...not the supernatural being of Christian tradition anyway. The adversary...is no being able to actually oppose God. The heart of MAN is wicked.
Tradition gives too much credit to 'the devil'"

With who or what do you think Jesus interacted during his being tested by Satana/Adversary, i.e. by Akelqartsa/Slanderer?
Yes, man is wicked.  Do you think the evils done by man through the centuries were solely the product of human's imaginations?
Do you think there exists evil non-material spirit beings that seek to be a bad influence on humans?

Emerson Ferrell discovered that he was being accused to God by malicious beings who were speaking truthful things about Ferrell's ill-advised words and deeds.  Blake Healy has regularly observed malicious non-physical beings at work trying to drag down humans.

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"There is nothing in the Word of God that suggest that an individual can get out of Hell or the Lake of Fire"
Jesus preached in Sheol/Hell.  Are you saying that everybody he preached to is still in hell, or maybe went from hell to the lake of fire?

"Low views of sin will always produce low views of God and His salvation"
Low views of God have resulted in low views of eschatology.

"is heaven forever?"
There's no end to God's kingdom, which keeps growing and growing and growing, and heaven is part of God's kingdom.

"Millions sleeping in the ground in death will awake, some to eternal life, and some to eternal shame and disgrace. Daniel 12:2  SAME WORD for eternal
What does forever and ever mean?  How long is ages of ages?  What does ages of ages even mean to a finite spacious mind?"

Let's look at the OT.  Do you agree with me that the Hebrew 'olam' meant 'age/world' to the ancient Hebrews?

"What is your 'temporal Hell' for?"
Helping people realize that what they did was wrong (if they hadn't realized that already), and helping people to realize their need for God.

"Does it purge sin?"
Sins that are done can't be un-done.

"Does it punish sin and then God says oh by the way My Son paid for your sins, you have exhausted my anger for them even though my Son was Crucified for sinners in the first place?"
No.

"God doesn't let-up His wrath towards His enemies"
Saddam Hussein and Hitler tortured certain people for a finite length of time.  As beings with limited lifespans on earth, they had to "let-up" expressing their "wrath towards" their enemies.  Do you really believe that God tortures people for an infinitely-long period of time, a being who is more cruel than Saddam Hussein, and more cruel than Hitler?

"the state of individuals after they have died is the same. No repentance after death"
Do you think this vision of an idolator is fiction?:

Visions of The Spiritual World by Sadhu Sundar Singh - 1926
https://archive.org/stream/VisionsOfTheSpiritualWorldBySadhuSundarSingh-1926-UploadedBy/VisionsOfTheSpiritualWorldBySadhuSundarSingh-1926_djvu.txt
The Correction of Error
When people earnestly desire to live lives pleasing to God, the readjustment of their views and the renewal of their lives begin in this world.  Not only does the Spirit of God teach them directly, but in the secret chamber of their hearts they are helped by communion with the saints, who, unseen by them, are ever at hand to assist them towards the good.  But, as many Christian believers, as well as non-Christian seekers after truth, die while still holding false and partial views of truth, their views are corrected in the world of spirits, provided that they are not obstinately welded to their opinions, and are willing to learn, because neither in this world, nor in the next, does God, or any servant of His, force a man to believe anything against his will.

The Manifestation of Christ
I saw in a vision the spirit of an idolater, on reaching the world of spirits, begin at once to search for his god.  Then the saints said to him, "There is no god here save the One True God, and Christ, Who is His manifestation."  At this the man was a good deal astonished, but being a sincere seeker after truth, he frankly admitted that he had been in error.  He eagerly sought to know the correct view of truth, and asked if he might see the Christ.  Shortly after this Christ manifested Himself in a dim light to him, and to others who had newly arrived in the world of spirits, because at this stage they could not have endured a full exhibition of His glory, for His glory is so surpassing that even the angels look on Him with difficulty, and cover their faces with their wings (Isaiah vi. 2).  When He does reveal Himself to any one He takes into account the particular stage of progress to which that soul has attained, so He appears dimly, or in the fuller light of His glory, that the sight of Him may be endured.  So, when these spirits saw Christ in this dim but attractive light, they were filled with a joy and peace which is beyond our power to describe.  Bathed in the rays of His life-giving light, and with the waves of His love, which constantly flow out from Him, flowing over them, all their error was washed away.  Then with all their hearts they acknowledged Him as the Truth, and found healing, and, bowing in lowly adoration before Him, thanked and praised Him.  And the saints who had been appointed for their instruction also rejoiced over them.

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"It says that he preached to those Souls who were held in sheol. That does not say he went to sheol"

Romans 10 (Aramaic Bible in Plain English), biblehub
12 And he makes no distinction in this, not for the Jews, neither for the Aramaeans, for he is The One LORD JEHOVAH to all of them, who is rich with everyone who calls to him. 13 "For everyone who will call the name of THE LORD JEHOVAH shall be saved."
14 Therefore, how would they call to This One unless they believed in him, or how would they believe him unless they heard him, or how would they hear without a preacher? 15 Or how will they preach, unless they will be sent, as it is written: "How beautiful are the feet of The Messengers of peace and of The Messengers of good things!"

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How do you think Jonah 2:6's l'olam ought be rendered?
('to the age'? 'forever'?)

Jonah 2:6
https://biblehub.com/jonah/2-6.htm
(NIV)
To the roots of the mountains I sank down;
the earth beneath barred me in forever.
But you, LORD my God, brought my life up from the pit.
(Young's Literal)
To the cuttings of mountains I have come down,
The earth, her bars are behind me to the age.
And Thou bringest up from the pit my life, O Jehovah my God.

https://biblehub.com/interlinear/jonah/2-6.htm
5769 lə 'ō w lām/ לְעוֹלָ֑ם

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"the evils done by man were solely the product of man's wicked heart"
We'll have to agree to disagree.

"There is no supernatural omniscient and omnipresent being like 'Satan' who can invisibly know your thoughts, or whisper to your soul"
Satan/the Adversary exists, isn't omniscient, isn't omnipresent, and though he doesn't know humans' verbalized thoughts, he is very skilled in observing humans for insights into what those humans are likely thinking. The Adversary has lots of non-material allies, including malicious demons, and human spirits sent from Sheol to bother and trip-up humans living on earth.

On a positive note, every human has a personal assistant non-material angel that suggests wholesome and beneficial thoughts/ideas to those under their care.
_The Veil: An Invitation to the Unseen Realm_ (2018) by Blake K. Healy
https://www.amazon.com/Veil-Invitation-Unseen-Realm/dp/1629994901/

"Show me where 'Satan' is given credit for mankind's evil actions"
I don't claim that the Adversary is solely responsible for "the evils done by man."
Satan played a role in marauders killing Job's servants.
Do you think God killed Job's:  sheep?  children?

Job 1 (NIV)
6 One day the angels came to present themselves before the Lord, and Satan also came with them. 7 The Lord said to Satan, "Where have you come from?"
Satan answered the Lord, "From roaming throughout the earth, going back and forth on it."
8 Then the Lord said to Satan, "Have you considered my servant Job? There is no one on earth like him; he is blameless and upright, a man who fears God and shuns evil."
9 "Does Job fear God for nothing?" Satan replied. 10 "Have you not put a hedge around him and his household and everything he has? You have blessed the work of his hands, so that his flocks and herds are spread throughout the land. 11 But now stretch out your hand and strike everything he has, and he will surely curse you to your face."
12 The Lord said to Satan, "Very well, then, everything he has is in your power, but on the man himself do not lay a finger."
Then Satan went out from the presence of the Lord.
13 One day when Job's sons and daughters were feasting and drinking wine at the oldest brother's house, 14 a messenger came to Job and said, "The oxen were plowing and the donkeys were grazing nearby, 15 and the Sabeans attacked and made off with them. They put the servants to the sword, and I am the only one who has escaped to tell you!"
16 While he was still speaking, another messenger came and said, "The fire of God fell from the heavens and burned up the sheep and the servants, and I am the only one who has escaped to tell you!"
17 While he was still speaking, another messenger came and said, "The Chaldeans formed three raiding parties and swept down on your camels and made off with them. They put the servants to the sword, and I am the only one who has escaped to tell you!"
18 While he was still speaking, yet another messenger came and said, "Your sons and daughters were feasting and drinking wine at the oldest brother's house, 19 when suddenly a mighty wind swept in from the desert and struck the four corners of the house. It collapsed on them and they are dead, and I am the only one who has escaped to tell you!"
20 At this, Job got up and tore his robe and shaved his head. Then he fell to the ground in worship 21 and said:
"Naked I came from my mother's womb,
and naked I will depart.
The Lord gave and the Lord has taken away;
may the name of the Lord be praised."

"Jeremiah 17:9 'The heart is more deceitful than all else
And is desperately sick; Who can understand it?"
Sounds right.

"John the baptist had just named Christ as Messiah in front of Jews. Testing such an individual was the same type of job as 'ha satan' the adversary in Job. To ACCUSE and TEMP in order to PROVE.  The Jewish priesthood was TESTING Christ...just as they did many times in public with their 'gotcha' questions.... ANY time you see "devil" or "satan" in the NT...it is talking about the Adversaries and slanderous false accusers, the Jewish Leaders"

So "the Jewish Leaders" made these remarks to Jesus?:
"If you (are) the Son of Allaha, say to these rocks, Become bread.'"
"If you (are) the Son of Allaha, cast yourself down, for it is written that,
'His angels He commands concerning you,
and upon their hands they will bear you up,
that your foot should not strike upon a rock.'"
"All these [kingdoms of the world] I (will) give to you if you will fall (and) thesagud [worship] me."

Matthew 4 (based on Younan, from the Aramaic Pesh itta)
1. Then Yeshua was taken by the Rukha d'Qudsha [Spirit of Holiness] to the desert to be tempted by Akelqartza [Slanderer/Accuser]. 2. And he fasted forty days and forty nights, and after which he hungered. 3. And he that was tempting approached and said to him, "If you (are) the Son of Allaha, say to these rocks, Become bread.'" 4. And he answered and said,
"(It) is written that,
barnasha [the sons of men] do not live by bread alone,
but by all the words that proceed from the mouth of Allaha.'"
5. Then Akelqartza took him to the holy medintha [city] and raised him upon the edge of the temple 6. and said to him, "If you (are) the Son of Allaha, cast yourself down, for it is written that,
His angels He commands concerning you,
and upon their hands they will bear you up,
that your foot should not strike upon a rock."
7. Yeshua said to him,
"Again, it is written that,
you shall not test MrYa [Master YHWH] Allahak [your Allaha].'"
8. Again Akelqartza took him to a tuora [mountain] that (was) very high and showed him all the kingdoms of the ailma [world] and shubkhen [their glory], 9. and said to him, "All these I (will) give to you if you will fall (and) thesagud [worship] me." 10. Then Yeshua said to him,
"Leave Satana [Adversary], for it is written that,
thesagud [you shall worship] MrYa Allahak,
and Him alone thepalukh [you shall serve].'"
11. Then Akelqartza left him and behold, malaka [messengers; here:  angelic messengers i.e. angels] approached and were ministering to him.

"'Satan' is not a proper noun as in a being's name. It's descriptive of a role one is acting in"
At one point, Jesus called Peter a satan/adversary with a small 'S,' describing the role Peter was then playing.
'Satan' can at times be "a proper noun as in a being's name."  Similarly,
'Joshua' is both a name, and also descriptive:  'Yah Saves.' 
'Jacob' is both a name, and also descriptive: 'Deceiver, Trickster.'
'Bar-Naba' is both a name, and also descriptive: 'Son of Encouragement'-- Encourager.

"God was called satan (adversary) when He stood against Israel.
1 Chron 21:1 Then Satan rose up against Israel and incited David to take a census of Israel.
parallel with...
2 Samuel 24:1
Again the anger of the LORD burned against Israel, and He stirred up David against them, saying, 'Go and take a census of Israel and Judah.'"

God and not the Adversary inspired King David to sin with a census. A more theologically-informed, accurate view of King David's census says in 1 Chronicles that the Adversary and not God prompted King David to sin.

"God stood as an 'adversary' to Israel.
Numbers 22:22 But God was angry because he was going, and the angel of the LORD took his stand in the way as (satan) an adversary against him. Now he was riding on his donkey and his two servants were with him."

"Point being...there is NO other being like God...that has supernatural powers like His. NONE!"

Various humans through the years have displayed the exercise of some "supernatural powers." E.g., Jesus, Peter, and Paul exercised "supernatural powers."  When Satan had fire kill Job's sheep, he exercised "supernatural powers."

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Sodom will be restored.  Under which covenant, if any, are the people of Sodom restored?

Is this correct?:
When Jesus preached to those who died in the flood,
he was preaching to people _not_ under the first covenant.

The only thing man can do to be acceptable to God is to trust in Jesus & seek to follow Jesus as boss/king/president/CEO.

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Do you agree with me that the Ethiopian that Philip preached to was:
undoubtedly black?
a practitioner of Judaism?
not a eunuch, but rather a 'believer'?

Do you believe the Ethiopian was a biological descendant of Jacob?

Acts 8 (based on Younan, translating from the original Aramaic)
26. And a malaka [messenger, here angelic messenger] of MrYa [Master YHWH] spoke with Pileepos [Philip] and said to him,
"Rise up! Go to the south on the desert road that goes down from Urishlim to Gaza."
27. And he arose (and) went and met a certain mahaymina [believer] who had come from Cush, an official of Qandeq, the malkta [queen] of the Cush ites, and he was an authority over all her treasures. And he had come to nesagud [worship] in Urishlim.[re: MHYMNA, it can mean either believer or eunuch-- or many similar things. The Greek versions mistranslate this as eunuch instead of the more contextually correct 'believer.'--PY. The Ethiopian _believer_ was intending to worship in Jerusalem, presumably in the temple there-- which eunuchs were prohibited from doing by Deut 23:2. Cf. Mt 19:12]
28. And while he traveled to go, he sat in a chariot and was reading Eshaya the nabia [Isaiah the prophet]. 29. And the Rukha [Spirit] said [this verb is in the feminine] to Pileepos,
"Draw near and follow the chariot."
30. And when he had drawn near, he heard that he was reading Eshaya the nabia, and he said to him,
"If, do you understand what you read?"
31. And he said,
"How am I able to comprehend unless someone instructs me?"
And he beseeched Pileepos that he come up and sit with him. 32-33. Now the section of the Kethaba [Scriptures/writings/book] that in which he was reading was this:
"He was led as a lamb to the slaughter,
and as an ewe before the shearer is silent,
even thus he did not open his mouth.
He was led in his humiliation from confinement and from dina [judgment].
And his generation, who will declare it,
because his life has been taken from the earth?"
34. And that mahaymina [believer/ faithful one] said to Pileepos,
"I beseech you, concerning whom did this nabia speak-- concerning himself or concerning another man?"
35. Then Pileepos open(ed) his mouth and began to preach to him from this Kethaba concerning Maran [our Lord] Yeshua. 36. And when they went on the road they arrived at a certain place that had water in it. And that mahaymina said,
"Behold, water! What is the obstacle so that I may be baptized?"
37. Omitted in Aramaic text.
38. And he commanded that the chariot stop. And both of them went down to the water. And Pileepos baptized him-- that mahaymina. 39. And after they got up from the water, the Rukheh [His Spirit] of MrYa [Master YHWH] caught Pileepos up, and that mahaymina did not see him again, but he departed on his way rejoicing. 40. And Pileepos was found at Azotus, and from there was traveling around and preaching in all the medintha [cities] until he came to Caesarea.

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How do you think Mark 10:33 ought be rendered?

Who do you think performed the crucifixion execution of Jesus?
(biological descendants of Jacob? 
individuals who _weren't_ biological descendants of Jacob? 
individuals who practiced Judaism?
individuals who _weren't_ practitioners of Judaism?)

Mark 10:33
http://dukhrana.com/pesh itta/analyze_verse.php?lang=en&verse=Mark+10:33&source=khabouris&font=Estrangelo+Edessa&size=125%25
(Etheridge) Behold, we go up to Urishlem; and the Son of man (will be) betrayed to the chief priests, and to the Sophree; and they shall condemn him to the death, and shall deliver him to the Gentiles [Aramaic:  l'amma:  to the Gentiles];
(Murdock) Behold, we are going to Jerusalem; and the Son of man will be delivered up to the chief priests and the Scribes; and they will condemn him to die, and will deliver him over to the Gentiles.
(KJV) Saying, Behold, we go up to Jerusalem; and the Son of man shall be delivered unto the chief priests, and unto the scribes; and they shall condemn him to death, and shall deliver him to the Gentiles:

http://dukhrana.com/lexicon/word.php?adr=2:15817&font=Estrangelo+Edessa&source=khabouris&size=125%25
(m noun pl. emphatic
ˁm, ˁmˀ (ˁam, ˁammā) n.m. people
plural almost always spelled ˁmmyn
  1 related group of people, nation Com. --(a) alluding to a specific group Syr. (a.1) christians Syr. (a.2) pl. : gentiles Qum, JLAtg, Syr. (a.3) the Jewish nation Syr.
  2 people, folks Syr, JBA, LJLA. --(a) unlearned person (see also ˁm dˀrˁ) Syr. --(b) .... : everyone Jud, PTA.

http://cal.huc.edu/getlex.php?coord=620401218&word=12
ˁm, ˁmˀ   (ˁam, ˁammā)   n.m.  people
  plural almost always spelled ˁmmyn
1  related group of people, nation  Com. Sf.3 a13 : ḥd ʿmʾ zy bydy  anyone of a people in my control. Ezra6:12 : .... any king or nation. P Gn25:8 : ....  he was gathered to his people (i.e., he died). ChronEdess 5:9 : ....  . (a) alluding to a specific group  Syr. (a.1)  christians  Syr. J?ddep 136:9 . (a.2)  pl. : gentiles  Qumran, JLAtg, Syr. TgJ Ez37:28 : ....  . AphDem20.382:20 :....  . P Mt28:19 : ....  . Eph3:1 : ....  I Paul am a prisoner of Jesus the Messiah on account of you gentiles. (a.3)  the Jewish nation  Syr. JSmem 11:138 : ....  the scribes of the [Jewish] people (and passim in Jacob's memre against the Jews). EphBread 17:1c : ....  .

2  people, folks  Syr, JBA, LJLA. BT Ber 45a(4) : .... go out and see how the people behave. PJ Gen47:21 : .... the people of the city. (a) unlearned person (see also ˁm dˀrˁ)  Syr. Vc 83:10 . (b) .... : everyone  JPAEpig, PTA.

Who do you think "those souls... who... were not convinced in the days of Noah" are?
(Sons of God who had children with descendants of Adam?
offspring of: Sons of God and descendants of Adam?)

"NOT YOUR Messiah"
Was Jesus the Messiah to those in Sheol that he preached to, people who'd died in the Flood?

1 Peter 3 (Aramaic Bible in Plain English), biblehub
18 Because The Messiah also died once for the sake of our sins,
The Righteous One in the place of sinners,
to bring you to God,
and he died in body and lived in his Spirit.
19 And he preached to those souls who were held in Sheol,
20 These who from the first were not convinced in the days of Noah when the long-suffering of God commanded that there would be an ark, upon the hope of their repentance, and only eight souls entered it and were kept alive by water.

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When 1 Peter 4 says [v. 6]"The Good News was proclaimed also to the dead that they would be judged as children of men in the flesh," do you believe that speaks of angels?

1 Peter 4 (Aramaic Bible in Plain English), biblehub
3 For that past time was enough in which you served the pleasure of The Pagans, in debauchery, drunkenness, in whoredom, in orgies and in the worship of demons. 4 And behold, now they marvel and insult you because you do not run riot with them in this former debauchery, 5 Those who give an account to God, who is going to judge the dead and living. 6 For because of this, The Good News was proclaimed also to the dead that they would be judged as children of men in the flesh and they would live in God by The Spirit.

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Did you begin to exist?
Does God exist without having ever begun to exist?

Slavery is very common in the world these days.
Are you anti-slavery?  If 'yes,' do you decline to legislate your anti-slavery beliefs on others?

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Re: Acts 10, do you agree that:
[v. 34]"God is no respecter of persons"?
[v. 35]"among all nations [Aramaic:  ai-m-m-a:  people/s, nation/s, Gentiles], whoever worships him [God] and works righteousness is acceptable to him"?

[v. 42]"he [Jesus] commanded us [Jesus' group of 12 then 11 closest students] to preach and to testify to the people [Aramaic:  l'ai-m-m:  to the people/s, nation/s, Gentiles] that This is He who was appointed by God to be The Judge of the living and of the dead"?

[v. 43]"everyone who believes in his [Jesus'] Name will receive forgiveness of sins"?
[v. 45]"the gift of The Spirit of Holiness was poured forth also upon Gentiles [Aramaic:  ai-m-m-a:  people/s, nation/s, Gentiles]"?

Re: Acts 11:1, do you agree that "Gentiles [Aramaic:  ai-m-m-a:  people/s, nation/s, Gentiles] had also received the word of God"?

Acts 10 (Aramaic Bible in Plain English), biblehub
https://biblehub .com/aramaic-plain-english/acts/10.htm
34 But Shimeon [Simon Peter] opened his mouth and he said, "In truth, I understand that God is no respecter of persons.
35 But among all nations, whoever worships him and works righteousness is acceptable to him. 36 For the word which he sent to the children of Israel and announced good news of peace and tranquility to them by Yeshua The Messiah, (This One is LORD JEHOVAH of all), 37 You also are aware of the word that has come to all Judea, which went out from Galilee after the baptism that Yohannan preached, 38 About Yeshua who was from Nazareth, whom God anointed with The Spirit of Holiness and with power, and he was traveling and healing those injured by The Evil One, because God was with him. 39 And we witnessed him concerning all whatsoever he did in all the land of Judea and of Jerusalem. The Judeans hanged him on a tree and murdered him. 40 And God raised him up the third day and granted him to appear publicly. 41 But not to all the people, but to us who were chosen by God to be witnesses for him, we who ate and drank with him after his resurrection from the grave.
42 And he commanded us to preach and to testify to the people that This is He who was appointed by God to be The Judge of the living and of the dead.
43 And all The Prophets have borne him witness, that everyone who believes in his Name will receive forgiveness of sins."

44 And when Shimeon was speaking these words, The Spirit of Holiness rested on all of those who were hearing the word. 45 And circumcised brethren who had come with him were stupefied and astonished that the gift of The Spirit of Holiness was poured forth also upon Gentiles, 46 For they heard them speaking in various languages and magnifying God, and Shimeon was saying: 47 "Can anyone refuse water that they should not be baptized? For, behold, they have received The Spirit of Holiness, as when we did." 48 Then he commanded them to be baptized in the name of Our Lord Yeshua The Messiah, and they begged him to stay with them for some days.

Acts 11:1 (Aramaic Bible in Plain English)
https://biblehub .com/aramaic-plain-english/acts/11.htm
And it was heard by the Apostles and by the brethren who were in Judea that Gentiles had also received the word of God.

Acts 10:35
http://dukhrana.com/pesh itta/analyze_verse.php?lang=en&verse=Acts+10:35&source=khabouris&font=Estrangelo+Edessa&size=125%25
(Etheridge) but in all nations [Aramaic:  ai-m-m-a:  people/s, nation/s, Gentiles] whoever feareth him and worketh righteousness is accepted of him.
(Murdock) but, among all the nations, he who feareth him, and worketh righteousness, is acceptable with him.
(Lamsa) But among all people, he who fears him and works righteousness is accepted with him.
(KJV) But in every nation he that feareth him, and worketh righteousness, is accepted with him.

Acts 10:42
http://dukhrana.com/pesh itta/analyze_verse.php?lang=en&verse=Acts+10:42&source=khabouris&font=Estrangelo+Edessa&size=125%25
(Etheridge) And he commanded us to preach and to testify to the people [Aramaic:  l'ai-m-m:  to the people/s, nation/s, Gentiles] that this is he who hath been separated by Aloha (to be) the Judge of the living and of the dead.
(Murdock) And he commanded us to proclaim and testify to the people, that he is appointed of God to be judge of the living and of the dead.
(KJV) And he commanded us to preach unto the people, and to testify that it is he which was ordained of God to be the Judge of quick and dead.

Acts 10:45
http://dukhrana.com/pesh itta/analyze_verse.php?lang=en&verse=Acts+10:45&source=khabouris&font=Estrangelo+Edessa&size=125%25
(Etheridge) And the circumcised brethren who had come with him were astonished and amazed, because upon the Gentiles [Aramaic:  ai-m-m-a:  people/s, nation/s, Gentiles] also the gift of the Spirit of Holiness was poured out.
(Murdock) And the circumcised brethren who came with him, were amazed and astonished, that the gift of the Holy Spirit was poured out upon the Gentiles also.
(KJV) And they of the circumcision which believed were astonished, as many as came with Peter, because that on the Gentiles also was poured out the gift of the Holy Ghost.

Acts 11:1
http://dukhrana.com/pesh itta/analyze_verse.php?lang=en&verse=Acts+11:1&source=ubs&font=Estrangelo+Edessa&size=125%25
(Etheridge) And the apostles and brethren who were in Jihud heard that the Gentiles [Aramaic:  ai-m-m-a:  people/s, nation/s, Gentiles] also had received the word of Aloha.
(Murdock) And it was reported to the legates and the brethren in Judaea, that the Gentiles also had received the word of God.
(KJV) And the apostles and brethren that were in Judaea heard that the Gentiles had also received the word of God.

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"Cornelius was a descendant of Abraham"
By what reasoning/evidence do you come to that conclusion?
Do you believe that the cured leper that returned to Jesus to give thanks "was a descendant of Abraham"?

Acts 10:28
(Lamsa), dukhrana
So he said to them, You know well that it is unlawful for a Jew to associate with a stranger who is not of his tribe; but God has showed me that I should not call any man common or unclean.

Luke 17:18
(Etheridge) None have separated to come (and) give praise to Aloha, but this, who is from a strange people.

Pesh itta verses that contains word 2:13121 n-u-k-r-i-a
http://dukhrana.com/pesh itta/sedra_concordance.php?adr=2:13121&font=Estrangelo+Edessa&size=125%25&source=khabouris

Luke 17:18
(Etheridge) None have separated to come (and) give praise to Aloha, but this, who is from a strange people.
(Murdock) Have they so gone as not to come and give glory to God; except this one, who is of another nation ?
(KJV) There are not found that returned to give glory to God, save this stranger.

Luke 24:18
(Etheridge) And one of them answered, whose name was Kleopha, and said to him, Art thou only a stranger from Urishlem, who knowest not what hath been done in it in these days ?
(Murdock) And one of them, whose name was Cleopas, answered and said to him: Art thou only a stranger in Jerusalem, that thou knowest not the things that have occurred there in these days?
(Lamsa) One of them, named Cleopas, answered and said to him, Are you a stranger alone from Jerusalem, that you do not know what has happened in it in these days?
(KJV) And the one of them, whose name was Cleopas, answering said unto him, Art thou only a stranger in Jerusalem, and hast not known the things which are come to pass there in these days?

John 10:5
(Etheridge) But after a stranger the flock goeth not, but it fleeth from him; for it knoweth not the voice of a stranger.
(Murdock) But after a stranger the flock will not follow, but it fleeth from him; because it knoweth not the voice of a stranger.
(Lamsa) The sheep do not follow a stranger, but they run away from him; because they do not know the voice of a stranger.
(KJV) And a stranger will they not follow, but will flee from him: for they know not the voice of strangers.

Acts 10:28
(Etheridge) And he said to them, You know that it is not lawful for a man a Jihudoya to attach to a foreign man who is not a son of his tribe. But me hath Aloha showed that I should not declare any man unclean or profane.
(Lamsa) So he said to them, You know well that it is unlawful for a Jew to associate with a stranger who is not of his tribe; but God has showed me that I should not call any man common or unclean.
(KJV) And he said unto them, Ye know how that it is an unlawful thing for a man that is a Jew to keep company, or come unto one of another nation; but God hath shewed me that I should not call any man common or unclean.

1Corinthians 14:21
(Etheridge) In the law it is written, In a strange language and in another tongue Will I speak with this people; Yet so will they not hear me, saith the Lord.
(Murdock) In the law it is written, With a foreign speech, and in another tongue, will I speak with this people; and even so also they will not hearken to me, saith the Lord.
(KJV) In the law it is written, With men of other tongues and other lips will I speak unto this people; and yet for all that will they not hear me, saith the LORD.

Pesh itta verses that contains word 2:13122 n-u-k-r-i-a
http://dukhrana.com/pesh itta/sedra_concordance.php?adr=2:13122&font=Estrangelo+Edessa&size=125%25&source=khabouris

Matthew 17:25
(Etheridge) He saith to them, Yes. And when Kipha entered the house, Jeshu anticipated him, and said to him, How doth it appear to thee, Shemun ? the kings of the earth, from whom do they take custom and headsilver, from their children, or from aliens ?
(Murdock) He said to them, Yes. And when Cephas had entered the house, Jesus anticipated him and said to him: How doth it appear to thee, Simon? The kings of the earth, of whom do they receive tribute and capitation money ? of their children, or of aliens ?
(Lamsa) He said to them, Yes. And when Peter entered the house, Jesus anticipated and said to him, What do you think, Simon? from whom do the kings of the earth collect custom duties and head-tax? from their sons, or from strangers?
(KJV) He saith, Yes. And when he was come into the house, Jesus prevented him, saying, What thinkest thou, Simon? of whom do the kings of the earth take custom or tribute? of their own children, or of strangers?

Matthew 17:26

Acts 17:18
(Etheridge) and the philosophers also who were of the doctrine of Epikuros, and others who were called Estoiku, disputed with him. And some of them said, What willeth this accumulator of words ? And others said, He preaches foreign gods; because Jeshu and his resurrection he preached unto them.
(Murdock) And also philosophers of the sect of Epicureans, and others who were called Stoics, disputed with him. And one and another of them said: What doth this word-monger mean ? Others said: He announceth foreign deities; because he preached to them Jesus and his resurrection.
(KJV) Then certain philosophers of the Epicureans, and of the Stoicks, encountered him. And some said, What will this babbler say? other some, He seemeth to be a setter forth of strange gods: because he preached unto them Jesus, and the resurrection.

Acts 17:21
(Etheridge) But all the Athinoyee, and those foreigners who are there, of no other thing are careful, but to say and to hear something new.
(Murdock) For all the Athenians and the foreigners residing there, cared for nothing else but to tell or to hear something new.
(Lamsa) (For all the Athenians and the strangers who were there, were uninterested in anything except something new to tell or to hear.)
(KJV) (For all the Athenians and strangers which were there spent their time in nothing else, but either to tell, or to hear some new thing.)

Colossians 1:21
(Etheridge) YOU also, who before were aliens and adversaries in your minds by your evil works, hath he reconciled now
(Murdock) And also to you, who were before alienated and enemies in your minds, because of your evil deeds,
(Lamsa) Even to you, who in times past were alienated and hostile in your minds because of your evil works, has been given peace,
(KJV) And you, that were sometime alienated and enemies in your mind by wicked works, yet now hath he reconciled

1Timothy 5:22
(Etheridge) The hand suddenly on any man lay not, neither participate in others' sins. Keep thyself in purity.
(Murdock) Lay not the hand hastily on any man; and participate not in the sins of others; keep thyself pure.
(Lamsa) Do not lay hands hastily on any man, neither be a partaker of other men's sins; keep yourself pure.
(KJV) Lay hands suddenly on no man, neither be partaker of other men's sins: keep thyself pure.

Hebrews 12:8
(Etheridge) And if ye be without the correction with which every one is corrected, ye are aliens, and not children.
(Murdock) But if ye are without that chastisement, with which every one is chastened, ye are become strangers and not sons.
(Lamsa) But if you are without discipline, that very discipline by which every man is trained, then you are strangers and not sons.
(KJV) But if ye be without chastisement, whereof all are partakers, then are ye bastards, and not sons.

Hebrews 13:9
(Murdock) Be not led away by strange and variable doctrines. For it is a good thing, that we strengthen our hearts with grace, and not with meats; for those have not been benefited, who walked in them.
(Lamsa) Do not be carried away by strange and divers doctrines. For it is a good thing to strengthen our hearts with grace; not with food, because it did not help those who greatly sought after it.
(KJV) Be not carried about with divers and strange doctrines. For it is a good thing that the heart be established with grace; not with meats, which have not profited them that have been occupied therein.

"God loved only his people Israel"
Did God love the:
Samaritan woman at the well?
widow from Sidon?
Syrian Naaman?
pagan woman from Phoenicia of Syria?
centurian Cornelius?
foreign leper that was cured and returned to give thanks?
King Agrippa, Governor Festus, Berniqi, and all the others who heard Paul's speech?
people who produce fruit, people to whom were given the Kingdom of God?

John 4:9 (NIV)
The Samaritan woman said to him, "You are a Jew and I am a Samaritan woman. How can you ask me for a drink?" (For Jews do not associate with Samaritans.)

Luke 4 (Aramaic Bible in Plain English), biblehub
24 But he said, "Assuredly, I say to you, there is not a Prophet who is received in his town." 25 "For truly I say to you that many widows were in Israel in the days of Elijah the Prophet, when the heavens were shut for three years and six months, and there was great hunger in all the land." 26 "And Elijah was not sent to one of them except to Tsarepta of Tsidon unto a widow woman." 27 "And there were many lepers among Israel in the days of Elisha the Prophet and not one of them was purified except Naaman the Syrian." 28 And when they who were in the synagogue heard these things, they were all filled with rage. 29 And they arose and they thrust him outside of the city and they brought him unto the ridge of the mountain on which the city was built to cast him from the precipice. 30 But he passed through the midst of them and he departed.

Mark 7 (Aramaic Bible in Plain English)
24 Yeshua arose from there and came to the coast of Tyre and of Sidon, and he entered a certain house and he did not want anyone to know him and he could not be hidden. 25 For immediately a certain woman heard about him, whose daughter had a foul spirit, and she came falling before his feet. 26 But she was a pagan woman from Phoenicia of Syria, and she was begging him to cast out the demon from her daughter. 27 And Yeshua said to her, "Let the children be filled first, for it is not right to take the children's bread and throw it to the dogs." 28 But she answered and said to him, "Yes, my lord, but even the dogs from under the table eat the children's crumbs." 29 Yeshua said to her, "Go; because of this saying the demon has gone out from your daughter." 30 And she went to her house and found her daughter lying in bed, and the demon had been cast out of her.

Acts 10 (Aramaic Bible in Plain English)
1 But in Qesaria was a certain man, a Centurion whose name was Cornelius, from the regiment which is called Italiqa. 2 And he was righteous and was a worshiper of God, he and his whole house, and he did great charitable work among the people and always prayed to God. 3 This man saw an Angel of God in a vision plainly before his face at the ninth hour of the day, who entered his presence and said to him, "Cornelia." 4 And he gazed at him and was afraid and said, "What, my lord?" And The Angel said to him, "Your prayer and your charity have gone up for a remembrance before God.
Acts 10:28 (Lamsa), dukhrana
So he [Peter] said to them, You know well that it is unlawful for a Jew to associate with a stranger who is not of his tribe; but God has showed me that I should not call any man common or unclean.

Luke 17:18 (Etheridge)
None have separated to come (and) give praise to Aloha, but this, who is from a strange people.

Acts 26 (Aramaic Bible in Plain English, with some "s deleted), biblehub
1 And Agrippa said to Paulus, "You are permitted to speak for yourself."
And Paulus stretched out his hand and offered a defense and said:
2 "Concerning everything of which I am accused by the Jews, King Agrippa....
24 When Paulus had thus rendered a defense, Festus cried out with a loud voice, "You are insane, Paul! Much study has made you insane!"
25 Paulus said, "I am not insane, excellent Festus, but I am speaking words of truth and integrity. 26 Also King Agrippa especially knows of such things as these, therefore I speak openly before him, because I do not think one of these matters has escaped him, for they were not done in secret. 27 Do you believe The Prophets, King Agrippa? I know that you do believe."
28 Agrippa said to him, "In a little bit you will persuade me to become a Christian."
29 Paulus said, *"I have desired* from God in a little and in much, not for you only, but also *for all those who are hearing me now to be like me, except for these chains."*
30 And The King stood for him, and the Governor and Berniqi and those who were sitting with them.

Matthew 21 (Aramaic Bible in Plain English), with some "s deleted
37 Finally, he sent to them his son as he said, 'Doubtless they will reverence my son.' 38 But when the laborers saw the son, they said among themselves, 'This is the heir, come, let us kill him and seize his inheritance.' 39 And they seized and led him outside of the vineyard and killed him. 40 Therefore when the Lord of the vineyard comes, what will he do to those laborers?"
41 They said to him, "He will ruthlessly destroy them and he will give the care of the vineyard to other laborers, who will give him the fruits in their season."
42 Yeshua said to them, "Have you never read in the scriptures, 'The stone which the builders rejected has become the head of the corner; this was from the presence of THE LORD JEHOVAH, and it is a wonder in our eyes.'? 43 Therefore, I say to you, the Kingdom of God will be taken from you and will be given to a people who will produce fruit. 44 And whoever falls on this stone will be shattered, and it will pulverize to dust everyone upon whom it will fall."
45 And when the Chief Priests and the Pharisees heard his parables, they knew that he had spoken against them. 46 And they sought to seize him and they were afraid of the crowds, because they were holding him as a Prophet.

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"Can we agree that everyone whom Yahweh promised to save was/will be saved?"
Sure.  God promised to save everybody.  See Romans 5. 
'Everybody' includes Sodom.  See Ezekiel 16.

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Does 'kosmō/ κόσμῳ/ world' work better?

Romans 5:13 (NIV)
https://biblehub .com/interlinear/romans/5-13.htm
https://biblehub .com/romans/5-13.htm
To be sure, sin was in the world [Greek:  2889 kosmō/ κόσμῳ/ world] before the law was given,
but sin is not charged against anyone's account where there is no law.

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"first century Jews had ZERO concept of the globe that you and I know. To them, their 'world' was the local environs around Jerusalem"
Including:  Italy?  Rome, Italy?  Egypt?  Ethiopia?  Spain?  Asia?

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"The God of Israel commanded his people to kill others whom God did not love"
Are you aware of Jesus-- God in the flesh-- commanding anything like that?

Matthew 26:52 (NIV)
"Put your sword back in its place," Jesus said to him, "for all who draw the sword will die by the sword.

Luke 9 (Aramaic Bible in Plain English), https://biblehub .com/aramaic-plain-english/luke/9.htm
51 And it was that when the days of his ascent were fulfilled, he prepared himself to go to Jerusalem. 52 And he sent messengers before his presence and they went and entered a village of the Samaritans so as to prepare for him. 53 And they did not receive him because his person was determined to go to Jerusalem. 54 And when Yaqob and Yohannan his disciples saw it, they were saying to him, "Our Lord, do you want us to speak and fire will descend from Heaven, and will consume them as Elijah also did?" 55 And he turned and he rebuked them and he said, "You do not know of which Spirit you are." 56 "For The Son of Man has not come to destroy lives but to give life." And they went to other villages.

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"Jews were those of the southern kingdom of Judah who practiced the law.
All jews were Israelites, but not all Israelites are Jews.
The gentiles of the New testament were the lost sheep of the house of Israel.
This would have been the other ten tribes of the northern kingdom of Israel. This is the people God divorced and spread out among the nations. They become hellenized in culture and way of life no longer practicing the law."

So you have categories of "Jews," "Israelites," and "gentiles."
How would you categorize each of these people?:
Moabite Ruth.
Jericho prostitute Rahab.
the people of Ninevah who repented at Jonah's preaching.
Samaritan woman at the well.
widow from Sidon who Elijah helped.
Naaman the Syrian who was cured of leprosy.
pagan woman from Phoenicia of Syria, whose daughter Jesus delivered from a demon.
the people speaking a variety of languages who understood Peter's preaching on Pentecost.
centurian Cornelius of the Italian regiment.
foreign leper that was cured and returned to tell Jesus 'thanks.'
King Agrippa.
Governor Festus.
Berniqi.
all the others who heard Paul's remarks to King Agrippa.
Caesar, who Paul was intent on evangelizing.
the saints of the household of Caesar.
the Roman soldiers guarding Paul that Paul preached to.
the Stoics and Epicureans Paul preached to.
people who produce fruit, people to whom were given the Kingdom of God-- as promised by Jesus.
people from whom was taken the Kingdom of God-- as promised by Jesus.

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"The people you listed in the Old Testament have nothing to do with the mission of the New Testament a gospel"
The Moabite Ruth and the Jericho prostitute Rahab became part of the lineage of Jesus the Messiah.  Jesus spoke of the people of Ninevah who repented at Jonah's preaching.  Jesus offered the Samaritan woman at the well living water, and tradition says she became a Christian martyr.  Jesus discussed the widow from Sidon who Elijah helped, and Naaman the Syrian who was cured of leprosy.  Jesus delivered from a demon the daughter of the pagan woman from Phoenicia of Syria.

"the people you listed, Cornelius, Festus, etc were Israelites"
Upon what basis/grounds do you believe that these people were biological descendants of Jacob?:
pagan/heathen woman from Phoenicia of Syria, whose daughter Jesus delivered from a demon.
centurian Cornelius of the Italian regiment.
foreign leper that was cured and returned to tell Jesus 'thanks.'
King Agrippa.
Governor Festus.
Berniqi.
all the others who heard Paul's remarks to King Agrippa.
Caesar, who Paul was intent on evangelizing.
the saints of the household of Caesar.
the Roman soldiers guarding Paul that Paul preached to.
the Stoics and Epicureans Paul preached to.
people who produce fruit, people to whom were given the Kingdom of God-- as promised by Jesus.

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"Ninevah repented of their actions towards Israel"
Reference for "actions towards Israel"?

Jonah 1:1-2 (NIV)
The word of the LORD came to Jonah son of Amittai:
"Go to the great city of Nineveh and preach against it,
because its wickedness has come up before me."

"Nineveh was the capital of Assyria"
And ....?
"Ninevah repented of their actions towards Israel"
Reference for "actions towards Israel"?

Jonah 3 (NIV)
4 Jonah began by going a day's journey into the city, proclaiming, "Forty more days and Nineveh will be overthrown." 5 The Ninevites believed God. A fast was proclaimed, and all of them, from the greatest to the least, put on sackcloth.
6 When Jonah's warning reached the king of Nineveh, he rose from his throne, took off his royal robes, covered himself with sackcloth and sat down in the dust. 7 This is the proclamation he issued in Nineveh:
"By the decree of the king and his nobles:
Do not let people or animals, herds or flocks, taste anything; do not let them eat or drink.
8 But let people and animals be covered with sackcloth. Let everyone call urgently on God. Let them give up their evil ways and their violence. 9 Who knows? God may yet relent and with compassion turn from his fierce anger so that we will not perish."
10 When God saw what they did and how they turned from their evil ways, he relented and did not bring on them the destruction he had threatened.

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Parts of the Quran mangle badly history that's recorded in the Old Testament.  I'm unaware of *any* archeological evidence supporting the Quran.  Reference for your claim that "there's evidence corroborating certain parts of the QURAN"?

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"evil is solely the product of man's wicked heart.... you cannot cite a scripture to say otherwise"
The non-material Satan played a part in Judas's betraying of Jesus, and in Ananias's lying to Peter.

Luke 22 (Aramaic Bible in Plain English)
3 But Satan had entered Yehuda, who is called Skariota, he who had been of the number of the twelve. 4 And he went and spoke with the Chief Priests and the Scribes and the Commanders of the forces of The Temple so as to deliver him [Jesus] to them. 5 And they rejoiced and they promised to give him money.
John 13:27 (NIV)
As soon as Judas took the bread, Satan entered into him. So Jesus told him, "What you are about to do, do quickly."

Acts 5:3 (NIV)
Then Peter said, "Ananias, how is it that Satan has so filled your heart that you have lied to the Holy Spirit and have kept for yourself some of the money you received for the land?

"As for everyone having their own personal heavenly angel...I notice you didn't cite a Bible Verse for that claim"
The Bible doesn't reveal everything about the spiritual world.  Do you agree with me that each child has an angel?

Matthew 18 (Aramaic Bible in Plain English)
2 And Yeshua called a boy and stood him in their midst. 3 And he said, "Truly I say to you, unless you will be converted and become like children, you will not enter the Kingdom of Heaven." 4 "Whoever therefore humbles himself like this boy, he will be greatest in the Kingdom of Heaven." 5 "And whoever will receive one such as this boy, in my name, receives me." 6 "And everyone who commits an offense against one of these little ones who believe in me, it were profitable for him that a donkey's millstone would be hung around his neck and he be sunk in the depths of the sea." .... 10 Take heed that you do not despise one of these little ones, for I say to you that their Angels in Heaven do always see the face of my Father who is in Heaven.

"God is credited with the calamities that came upon Job...42:11"
Credited by uninformed individuals. Do you think God did to Job those calamities?

"So either your position is that 1 Chron & 2 Sam are contradictory"
That's my position.

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"salvation (especially in the Old testament) has nothing to do with 'saving the soul from hell' or something like that but deliverance from physical destruction"
Including Daniel 12:1-4?
The OT has evolving views of the afterlife.

Daniel 12 (Young's Literal), my brackets
1 'And at that time stand up doth Michael, the great head, who is standing up for the sons of thy people, and there hath been a time of distress, such as hath not been since there hath been a nation till that time, and at that time do thy people escape, every one who is found written in the book. 2 'And the multitude of those sleeping in the dust of the ground do awake, some to life age-[en]during, and some to reproaches -- to abhorrence age-[en]during. 3 And those teaching do shine as the brightness of the expanse, and those justifying the multitude as stars to the age and for ever. 4 And thou, O Daniel, hide the things, and seal the book till the time of the end, many do go to and fro, and knowledge is multiplied.'

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"So though the APOSTLES of Christ held the Jews responsible for Christ's death/murder in the multiple verses I cited...you are choosing to IGNORE those and try and make others culpable for it?"
No, I'm checking to make sure you agree with me that non-Judeans performed the crucifixion of Jesus.
Do you agree with me that non-Judeans performed the crucifixion of Jesus?
If 'yes,' do you consider those non-Judeans:
biological descendants of Jacob? 
individuals who _weren't_ biological descendants of Jacob? 
individuals who practiced Judaism?
individuals who _weren't_ practitioners of Judaism?

For Mark 10:33, is "shall deliver him to the nations" a decent rendering?

Mark 10 (Young's Literal)
33-- 'Lo, we go up to Jerusalem, and the Son of Man shall be delivered to the chief priests, and to the scribes, and they shall condemn him to death, and shall deliver him to the nations,
34 and they shall mock him, and scourge him, and spit on him, and kill him, and the third day he shall rise again.'

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"I have reason to doubt the Ethiopian as being a descendant of Abraham. . . as they were scattered to the four corners of the land. Hence we see examples of 'devout people' from many nations in Acts...we also see a great 'multitude' from every tongue, tribe, and nation in Revelation.
God scattered them and they no doubt, had offspring from others in those nations. But they could still be a descendant of Abraham and heir according to the Promise."

Do you think the proselytes mentioned below were descendants of Abraham?
Do you think all the listeners mentioned here in v. 5+ were descendants of Abraham?:

Acts 2 (Aramaic Bible in Plain English)
1 And when the days of Pentecost were fulfilled, as all of them were assembled together, 2 Suddenly there was from Heaven a sound like a mighty wind and the whole place in which they were sitting was filled with it. 3 And tongues like fire that were divided appeared to them, and they sat on each one of them. 4 And all of them were filled with The Spirit of Holiness, and they were going out speaking in various languages, according to whatever The Spirit was giving them to speak.
5 But there were men dwelling in Jerusalem who were worshipers of God, Jews from every nation under Heaven. 6 And when that noise occurred, the entire populace gathered and was agitated, because each one of them heard that they were speaking in their dialects. 7 And they were all marveling and were amazed as they were saying, each to the other, "Are not all these who are speaking Galileans?" 8 "How are we hearing, everyone, his own dialect in which we were born?" 9 "Parthians and Medes and Elanites, and those who dwell in Bayth-Nahrayn, Judeans and Qapodoqians and those who are from the regions of Pontus and of Asia," 10 "And from the regions of Phrygia and of Pamphylia and of Egypt and of the countries of Libya which are near to Cyrene and those who came from Rome, Jews and proselytes", 11 "And who are from Crete, and Arabians, behold, we are hearing from those who are speaking in our own dialects, the wonders of God."

"James 1:1.... 1 Peter 1:1"

In Galatians 2, who do you think:
"the nations" refers to?  (biological descendants of Jacob, scattered around the world?)

"the circumcision" refers to?  (biological descendants of Jacob who practiced circumcision of foreskins?)

"the uncircumcision" refers to?  (biological descendants of Jacob who didn't circumcise foreskins?)

"2 and I... did submit to them the good news that I preach among the nations...
7 ... I have been entrusted with the good news of the uncircumcision,
as Peter with [that] of the circumcision,
8 for He who did work with Peter to the apostleship of the circumcision,
did work also in me in regard to the nations,
9 ... James, and Cephas, and John, ... a right hand of fellowship they did give to me, and to Barnabas, that we to the nations,
and they to the circumcision [may go], ....
11 ... Peter... 12 ... before the coming of certain from James, with the nations he was eating,
and when they came, he was withdrawing and separating himself, fearing those of the circumcision, ....
14 But when I saw that they are not walking uprightly to the truth of the good news, I said to Peter before all,
'If thou, being a Jew, in the manner of the nations dost live,
and not in the manner of the Jews,
how the nations dost thou compel to Judaize?
15 we by nature Jews, and not sinners of the nations...."

Re: v. 16, "we in Christ Jesus did believe, that we might be declared righteous by the faith of Christ," do you think Paul wanted people to:
believe in Christ Jesus?
both believe in Christ Jesus and also be a biological descendant of Jacob?

Galatians 2 (Young's Literal), biblehub
1 Then, after fourteen years again I went up to Jerusalem with Barnabas, having taken with me also Titus;
2 and I went up by revelation, and did submit to them the good news that I preach among the nations, and privately to those esteemed, lest in vain I might run or did run;
3 but not even Titus, who [is] with me, being a Greek, was compelled to be circumcised --
4 and [that] because of the false brethren brought in unawares, who did come in privily to spy out our liberty that we have in Christ Jesus, that us they might bring under bondage,
5 to whom not even for an hour we gave place by subjection, that the truth of the good news might remain to you.
6 And from those who were esteemed to be something -- whatever they were then, it maketh no difference to me -- the face of man God accepteth not, for -- to me those esteemed did add nothing,
7 but, on the contrary, having seen that I have been entrusted with the good news of the uncircumcision,
as Peter with [that] of the circumcision,
8 for He who did work with Peter to the apostleship of the circumcision,
did work also in me in regard to the nations,
9 and having known the grace that was given to me, James, and Cephas, and John, who were esteemed to be pillars, a right hand of fellowship they did give to me, and to Barnabas,
that we to the nations,
and they to the circumcision [may go],
10 only, of the poor that we should be mindful, which also I was diligent -- this very thing -- to do.
11 And when Peter came to Antioch, to the face I stood up against him, because he was blameworthy,
12 for before the coming of certain from James, with the nations he was eating,
and when they came, he was withdrawing and separating himself, fearing those of the circumcision,
13 and dissemble with him also did the other Jews, so that also Barnabas was carried away by their dissimulation.
14 But when I saw that they are not walking uprightly to the truth of the good news, I said to Peter before all,
'If thou, being a Jew, in the manner of the nations dost live,
and not in the manner of the Jews,
how the nations dost thou compel to Judaize?
15 we by nature Jews, and not sinners of the nations,
16 having known also that a man is not declared righteous by works of law,
if not through the faith of Jesus Christ,
also we in Christ Jesus did believe,
that we might be declared righteous by the faith of Christ,
and not by works of law,
wherefore declared righteous by works of law shall be no flesh.'

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"the diaspora refers to Abraham's scattered seed among the nations ....  only around 1/6th or so of Israelites were Jews. The other 10 tribes were 'paganized' scattered among the nations...hence they were referred to as 'ethne' rather than 'Jews' because they WERE NOT JEWS.  They weren't called 'Israel' by the Jews because Jews were also part of Israel proper"

"circumcised = Jews, those following the Law/Flesh
uncircumcised = those 'anomos' lawless, not following the Law  ....
The 'Prodigal Son' were the Diaspora. (House of Israel)
The son who stayed home were the Jews. (Judah)"

Was Goliath in the category of "lawless, not following the Law"?

1 Samuel 17:26 (NIV) David asked the men standing near him, "What will be done for the man who kills this Philistine and removes this disgrace from Israel? Who is this uncircumcised Philistine that he should defy the armies of the living God?"
1 Samuel 17:36 (NIV) Your servant has killed both the lion and the bear; this uncircumcised Philistine will be like one of them, because he has defied the armies of the living God.

In Mt 10:5, do you think "the nations" refers to uncircumcised biological descendants of Jacob?

Matthew 10 (Young's Literal)
5 These twelve did Jesus send forth, having given command to them, saying,
'To the way of the nations go not away,
and into a city of the Samaritans go not in,
6 and be going rather unto the lost sheep of the house of Israel.

"Acts 2.... saying, 'Why, are not all these who are speaking Galileans? 8 'And how is it that we each hear them in our own language to which we were born? 9 'Parthians and Medes and Elamites, and residents of Mesopotamia, Judea and Cappadocia, Pontus and Asia, 10 Phrygia and Pamphylia, Egypt and the districts of Libya around Cyrene, and visitors from Rome, both Jews and proselytes, 11 Cretans and Arabs--we hear them in our own tongues speaking of the mighty deeds of God.'
Notice there were JEWS who spoke MANY other languages depending on where they came from for Pentecost."

Were those "residents of... Judea" "the son who stayed home... the Jews. (Judah)"?
Minus the residents of Judea, were the devout men in Jerusalem for Pentecost and hearing Peter speak in their own languages "the 'Prodigal Son'... the Diaspora. (House of Israel)"?

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"to say that God does not destroy the wicked also equally contradicts so many OT scriptures"
The OT has evolving views of whether or not there is an afterlife, and evolving views of the fate of the wicked.

R.H. Charles: bring eschatology into harmony w/ Xtian theology of God
https://tentmaker.org/forum/judgement-and-punishment/r-h-charles-bring-eschatology-into-harmony-w-xtian-theology-of-god/

There are scriptures that can seem to support never-ending torture, annihilation, and universalism.  In terms of scriptural evidence, the situation is this:
never-ending torture < annihilationism < universalism
See
Universal Restoration & the Fate of the Wicked
https://tentmaker.org/forum/judgement-and-punishment/universal-restoration-verses/

"Don't you think that their philosophy polluted Christianity"
2 examples?

"when translated into English such words like 'eon' which is an undefined time period, was translated into 'forever'"
Both the original Aramaic NT and its translation into Greek speak of 'age/world.'  I've heard that it's only with the translation of Greek into Latin that 'forever' got inserted into the NT.

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"God's Kingdom belonged to, was Promised to, was prophesied to, Israel and Abraham's descendants"
Including promised to that descendant of Abraham and of David, the God-man Christ/Messiah, who managed to perfectly keep the Mosaic law?
Was the Christ/Messiah promised anything, and if so, who and/or what?

[v. 16+]"and to Abraham were the promises spoken, and to his seed;
He doth not say, 'And to seeds,' as of many,
but as of one, 'And to thy seed,' which is Christ;  ....
A covenant confirmed before by God to Christ,
the law, that came four hundred and thirty years after,
doth not set aside, to make void the promise,  ....
19 .... the law.... was added, till the seed might come to which the promise hath been made"

Galatians 3:7 says, "those of faith-- these are sons of Abraham."
Is it correct to say that you think this?:
those of faith-- _all_ of whom are biological descendants of Abraham-- these are sons of Abraham.

Gal 3:9 quotes God as saying to Abraham, "Blessed in thee shall be all the nations." 
Is it correct to say that you think God's statemtent to Abraham means this?:
'Blessed in you, Abraham, shall be all the biological descendants of you, Abraham.'

Gal 3:14 says, "that to the nations the blessing of Abraham may come in Christ Jesus."
Is it correct to say that you think that remark means this?:
'that to the biological descendants of Abraham the blessing of Abraham may come in Christ Jesus.'

Gal 3:22 says, "but the Writing did shut up the whole under sin,
that the promise by faith of Jesus Christ may be given to those believing."
Re: "the Writing did shut up the whole under sin," do you think that's best understood as,
'the scriptures shut up all biological descendants of Abraham-- and _only_ them-- under sin'?

Do you think the people of Sodom did any sinning?  Did Pilate sin?  Did Cain, who killed Abel?  How about the people:
of Ninevah?  that died in the Flood?

Galatians 3 (Young's Literal)
6 according as Abraham did believe God,
and it was reckoned to him-- to righteousness;
7 know ye, then, that those of faith-- these are sons of Abraham,
8 and the Writing having foreseen that
by faith God doth declare righteous the nations
did proclaim before the good news to Abraham--
9 'Blessed in thee shall be all the nations;'
so that those of faith are blessed with the faithful Abraham,
10 for as many as are of works of law are under a curse,
for it hath been written,
'Cursed [is] every one who is not remaining in all things
that have been written in the Book of the Law-- to do them,'
11 and that in law no one is declared righteous with God,
is evident, because
'The righteous by faith shall live;'
12 and the law is not by faith, but--
'The man who did them shall live in them.'
13 Christ did redeem us from the curse of the law,
having become for us a curse,
for it hath been written,
'Cursed is every one who is hanging on a tree,'
14 that to the nations the blessing of Abraham may come in Christ Jesus,
that the promise of the Spirit we may receive through the faith.
15 Brethren, as a man I say [it],
even of man a confirmed covenant no one doth make void or doth add to,
16 and to Abraham were the promises spoken, and to his seed;
He doth not say, 'And to seeds,' as of many,
but as of one, 'And to thy seed,' which is Christ;
17 and this I say,
A covenant confirmed before by God to Christ,
the law, that came four hundred and thirty years after, doth not set aside,
to make void the promise,
18 for if by law [be] the inheritance,
[it is] no more by promise,
but to Abraham through promise did God grant [it].
19 Why, then, the law?
on account of the transgressions it was added,
till the seed might come to which the promise hath been made,
having been set in order through messengers in the hand of a mediator--
20 and the mediator is not of one, and God is one--
21 the law, then, [is] against the promises of God?-- let it not be!
for if a law was given that was able to make alive,
truly by law there would have been the righteousness,
22 but the Writing did shut up the whole under sin,
that the promise by faith of Jesus Christ may be given to those believing.
23 And before the coming of the faith,
under law we were being kept,
shut up to the faith about to be revealed,
24 so that the law became our child-conductor-- to Christ,
that by faith we may be declared righteous,
25 and the faith having come,
no more under a child-conductor are we,
26 for ye are all sons of God through the faith in Christ Jesus,
27 for as many as to Christ were baptized did put on Christ;
28 there is not here Jew or Greek,
there is not here servant nor freeman,
there is not here male and female,
for all ye are one in Christ Jesus;
29 and if ye [are] of Christ
then of Abraham ye are seed,
and according to promise-- heirs.

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"They could be made ALIVE IN CHRIST through FAITH.... ONLY those Israelites of FAITH were considered sons of Abraham and heirs to the kingdom according to PROMISE"
Do you think:
converts to Judaism in the 1st century A.D. "could be made ALIVE IN CHRIST through FAITH"?
converts to Judaism in the 1st century A.D., if they weren't biological descendants of Jacob, _couldn't_ "be made ALIVE IN CHRIST through FAITH"?

Acts 13:43 (NIV)
When the congregation was dismissed, many of the Jews and devout converts to Judaism followed Paul and Barnabas, who talked with them and urged them to continue in the grace of God.
Acts 6:5 (NIV)
This proposal pleased the whole group. They chose Stephen, a man full of faith and of the Holy Spirit; also Philip, Procorus, Nicanor, Timon, Parmenas, and Nicolas from Antioch, a convert to Judaism.
Acts 2:11 (NIV)
(both Jews and converts to Judaism); Cretans and Arabs--we hear them declaring the wonders of God in our own tongues!"

"I have reason to doubt the Ethiopian as being a descendant of Abraham"
Do you think:
all black persons are unlikely to be descendants of Abraham?
all descendants of Abraham are white?

"The Mystery was that THROUGH FAITH they would be made righteous...and NOT through the LAW"
The Ethiopian that Philip preached to about Jesus in Acts 8 was into Judaism.  The Ethiopian accepted what Philip said, and got baptized as a sign of his becoming a follower of Jesus.  Given your doubt that the Ethiopian was a descendant of Abraham, did, or didn't, the Ethiopian's trusting in Jesus make the Ethiopian righteous?

"If one had Christ it was PROOF/Evidence that they were a descendant of Abraham"
Did the Ethiopian at any point have Christ?
Did "Nicolas from Antioch, a convert to Judaism," at any point have Christ?

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"It was an EXCLUSIVE not INCLUSIVE movement initiated by the God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob"
That movement included the Assyrian capital of Ninevah (see the book of Jonah) and Sodom (see Ezekiel 16).
It also included Rahab i.e. Egypt, Babylon, Philistia, Tyre, and Cush:

Psalm 87 (NIV)
Of the Sons of Korah. A psalm. A song.
1 He has founded his city on the holy mountain.
2 The Lord loves the gates of Zion
more than all the other dwellings of Jacob.
3 Glorious things are said of you, city of God:
4 "I will record Rahab and Babylon
among those who acknowledge me--
Philistia too, and Tyre, along with Cush--
and will say, 'This one was born in Zion.' "
5 Indeed, of Zion it will be said,
"This one and that one were born in her,
and the Most High himself will establish her."
6 The Lord will write in the register of the peoples:
"This one was born in Zion."
7 As they make music they will sing,
"All my fountains are in you."

"The Messiah was promised heir of the kingdom...and granted to sit on the right hand of power of the throne"
A kingdom that would include all nations.

Malachi 1 (NIV)
10 "Oh, that one of you would shut the temple doors,
so that you would not light useless fires on my altar!
I am not pleased with you,"
says the Lord Almighty,
"and I will accept no offering from your hands.
11 My name will be great among the nations,
from where the sun rises to where it sets.
In every place
incense and pure offerings will be brought to me,
because my name will be great among the nations,"
says the Lord Almighty.  ....
14 "Cursed is the cheat who has an acceptable male in his flock
and vows to give it,
but then sacrifices a blemished animal to the Lord.
For I am a great king,"
says the Lord Almighty,
"and my name is to be feared among the nations."

"The idea of Israel was to carve out a people for His prized possession from among all other people"
God is madly in love with people-- all people.
The nation of Israel was to be a light to the nations.  It failed miserably.
God took matters into his own hands, and sent himself in the form of Yeshua (Yah Saves/Gives Life) the Messiah (Anointed One).  Christ was 'Immanuel,' God with us.  Jesus Christ is "a light for the nations," giving God-brought life "to the ends of the earth."

Isaiah 49 (Berean Study Bible)
1 Listen to Me, O islands;
pay attention, O distant peoples:
* The LORD called Me from the womb;
* from the body of My mother He named Me.
* 2 He made My mouth like a sharp sword;
He hid Me in the shadow of His hand.
He made Me like a polished arrow;
He hid Me in His quiver.
3 He said to Me,
"You are My Servant, Israel,
in whom I will display My glory."
4 But I said, "I have labored in vain,
I have spent My strength in futility and vanity;
yet My vindication is with the LORD,
and My reward is with My God."
5 And now says the LORD,
* who formed Me from the womb to be His Servant,
* to bring Jacob back to Him,
* that Israel might be gathered to Him--
for I am honored in the sight of the LORD,
and My God is My strength--
6 He says:
* "It is not enough for You to be My Servant,
* to raise up the tribes of Jacob,
* and to restore the protected ones of Israel.
* I will also make You a light for the nations,
* to bring My salvation to the ends of the earth."

"did Judaism include other people groups in its scope of redemption?"
According to Isaiah 60, God said nations/peoples would come to an illuminated Israel, with Midian and Ephah and Sheba "proclaiming the praises of the LORD," and said animal sacrifices from Kedar and Nebaioth would "go up on My altar with acceptance":

Isaiah 60 (Berean Study Bible), biblehub
1 Arise, shine, for your light has come,
and the glory of the LORD rises upon you.
2 For behold, darkness covers the earth,
and thick darkness is over the peoples;
but the LORD will rise upon you,
and His glory will appear over you.
3 Nations will come to your light,
and kings to the brightness of your dawn.
....
6 Caravans of camels will cover your land,
young camels of Midian and Ephah,
and all from Sheba will come,
bearing gold and frankincense
and proclaiming the praises of the LORD.
7 All the flocks of Kedar will be gathered to you;
the rams of Nebaioth will serve you
and go up on My altar with acceptance;
I will adorn My glorious house.

_The Isaiah Targum:  Introduction, Translation, Apparatus and Notes_ by Bruce Chilton (1987), 130pp. On 116:
60.1 Arise, shine, Jerusalem;
for the time of your salvation has come,
and the glory of the LORD will be revealed upon you.
60.2 For behold, darkness shall cover the earth,
and gloom the kingdoms;
but the Shekinah of the LORD will settle in you,
and his glory will be revealed upon you.
60.3 And peoples shall come to your light,
and kings before your brightness. 
....
60.6 The caravans of the Arabians shall cover you around,
the dromedaries of Midian and Ephah;
all those from Sheba will come.
They shall be burdened with gold and frankincense,
and those who come with them will be declaring the praises of the LORD.
60.7 All the sheep of the Arabians shall be gathered into your midst,
the rams of Nebat shall minister to you;
they will be offered up for pleasure upon my altar,
and I will glorify my glorious house.  ....
60.9 For islands shall wait for my Memra....

"The Messiah was promised heir of the kingdom...and granted to sit on the right hand of power of the throne"
Indeed. At that [v. 5]"right hand," [v. 6]"He will judge the nations," and eventually, [v. 27]"all dominions do serve and obey Him."
Is it your view that some dominions _won't_ bend the knee?

Psalm 110 (Berean Study Bible), biblehub
A Psalm of David.
1 The LORD said to my Lord:
"Sit at My right hand
until I make Your enemies
a footstool for Your feet."
2 The LORD extends Your mighty scepter from Zion:
"Rule in the midst of Your enemies."
3 Your people shall be willing
on Your day of battle.
Arrayed in holy splendor, from the womb of the dawn,
to You belongs the dew of Your youth.
4 The LORD has sworn
and will not change His mind:
"You are a priest forever
in the order of Melchizedek."
5 The Lord is at Your right hand;
He will crush kings in the day of His wrath.
6 He will judge the nations, heaping up the dead;
He will crush the leaders far and wide.
7 He will drink from the brook by the road;
therefore He will lift up His head.

Daniel 7 (Young's Literal), my "[en]" bracket in 14 and 27
9 'I was seeing till that thrones have been thrown down, and the Ancient of Days is seated, His garment as snow [is] white, and the hair of his head [is] as pure wool, His throne flames of fire, its wheels burning fire.
10 A flood of fire is proceeding and coming forth from before Him, a thousand thousands do serve Him, and a myriad of myriads before Him do rise up, the Judge is seated, and the books have been opened.  ....
13 'I was seeing in the visions of the night, and lo, with the clouds of the heavens as a son of man was [one] coming, and unto the Ancient of Days he hath come, and before Him they have brought him near.
14 And to him is given dominion, and glory, and a kingdom, and all peoples, nations, and languages do serve him, his dominion [is] a dominion age-[en]during, that passeth not away, and his kingdom that which is not destroyed.  ....
27 and the kingdom, and the dominion, even the greatness of the kingdom under the whole heavens, is given to the people-- the saints of the Most High, His kingdom [is] a kingdom age-[en]during, and all dominions do serve and obey Him.

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"Did you really sin by transgressing the Law (1John 3:4), under the FIRST Covenant (Old Covenant) according to Hebrews 9:15? Remember that Christ Jesus died ONLY once and that was to redeem those who sinned under the FIRST Covenant (Hebrews 9:15)"

What exactly is:
"the Law"?
"the FIRST Covenant"?

Genesis 9 (HCSB)
1 God blessed Noah and his sons and said to them,
"Be fruitful and multiply and fill the earth.
2 The fear and terror of you will be in
every living creature on the earth,
every bird of the sky,
every creature that crawls on the ground,
and all the fish of the sea.
They are placed under your authority.
3 Every living creature will be food for you;
as I gave the green plants, I have given you everything.
4 However, you must not eat meat with its lifeblood in it.
5 I will require the life of every animal and every man
for your life and your blood.
I will require the life of each man's brother
for a man's life.
6 Whoever sheds man's blood,
his blood will be shed by man,
for God made man in His image.
7 But you, be fruitful and multiply;
spread out over the earth and multiply on it."
8 Then God said to Noah and his sons with him,
9 "Understand that I am confirming My covenant
with you and your descendants after you,
10 and with every living creature that is with you-- 
birds, livestock, and all wildlife of the earth that are with you-- 
all the animals of the earth that came out of the ark.
11 I confirm My covenant with you that
never again will every creature be wiped out by the waters of a flood;
there will never again be a flood to destroy the earth."
12 And God said,
"This is the sign of the covenant I am making
between Me and you and every living creature with you,
a covenant for all future generations:
I have placed My bow in the clouds,
and it will be a sign of the covenant between Me and the earth.

Genesis 15 (NIV)
4 Then the word of the LORD came to him: "This man will not be your heir, but a son who is your own flesh and blood will be your heir." 5 He took him outside and said, "Look up at the sky and count the stars-- if indeed you can count them." Then he said to him, "So shall your offspring be."
6 Abram believed the LORD, and he credited it to him as righteousness.
7 He also said to him, "I am the LORD, who brought you out of Ur of the Chaldeans to give you this land to take possession of it."
8 But Abram said, "Sovereign LORD, how can I know that I will gain possession of it?"
9 So the LORD said to him, "Bring me a heifer, a goat and a ram, each three years old, along with a dove and a young pigeon."
10 Abram brought all these to him, cut them in two and arranged the halves opposite each other; the birds, however, he did not cut in half.  ....
17 When the sun had set and darkness had fallen, a smoking firepot with a blazing torch appeared and passed between the pieces. 18 On that day the LORD made a covenant with Abram and said, "To your descendants I give this land, from the Wadi of Egypt to the great river, the Euphrates-- 19 the land of the Kenites, Kenizzites, Kadmonites, 20 Hittites, Perizzites, Rephaites, 21 Amorites, Canaanites, Girgacrapes and Jebusites."

Exodus 24 (NIV)
6 Moses took half of the blood and put it in bowls, and the other half he splashed against the altar. 7 Then he took the Book of the Covenant and read it to the people. They responded,
"We will do everything the LORD has said; we will obey."
8 Moses then took the blood, sprinkled it on the people and said,
"This is the blood of the covenant that the LORD has made with you in accordance with all these words."

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_The Message of Sadhu Sundar Singh:  A Study in Mysticism on Practical Religion_ by B.H. Streeter and A.J. Appasamy (1922), 209pp., 95-96, 99-102 https://archive.org/stream/themessageofsadh00streuoft/themessageofsadh00streuoft_djvu.txt
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1293189901/
https://www.amazon.com/Message-Sadhu-Sundar-Singh-Mysticism-ebook/dp/B013RN32LU/
THE LAST JUDGMENT
"I inquired once, 'Will the dead stand in a line all together and be judged?'  I was told, No; after leaving the body the soul knows everything that has happened to it.  The memory of it all is clear and fresh, and thereby they are judged.  The heavenly light shows the wicked to themselves; they see at once that they cannot live in that fellowship of saints and angels.  They feel so out of place there, they find everything so uncongenial that they ask to be allowed to go away from Heaven.  Men are not turned out of Heaven by God.  Heaven is not a place with walls and gates where you have to ask for a ticket of admission.  The ticket of admission is the life a man has led.

"Those who are born again can see the Kingdom of Heaven and feel at home there, those who are not cannot do so.  This is the real judgment, and it is a judgment that is going on every day.  It is not effected by an act of God interposing between ourselves and Him, it is internal.  The Last Judgment will be a proclamation of the final result, when every true servant of God will be exalted before the whole creation.

"I was also told that in this world our spiritual bodies are inside our material bodies, and that when we sin it is like when we press with a point on paper behind which is a sheet of carbon; on the outside of the paper there is a very slight mark, but inside there is a clear black mark.  Thus our sins mark and scar our spiritual bodies, and the result of this will be seen when, after death, the spiritual body escapes from the material; and the revelation of the injury it has sustained will in itself be a large part of the judgment.

More material around that:
https://tentmaker.org/forum/index.php?topic=15030.msg215532#msg215532

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"Salvation from what"
Salvation from death.  Which equals life.

https://biblehub.net/search.php?q="salvation+from"
Luke 1:71 salvation from our enemies and from the hand of all who hate us
Acts 28:28  So I want you to know that this salvation from God has also been
offered to the Gentiles, and they will accept it
1 Chronicles 16:35 And say, Be our saviour, O God of our salvation, and let us come back, and give us salvation from the nations, so that we may give honour to your holy name
2 Corinthians 1:10 Who gave us salvation from so great a death: on whom we have put our
hope that he will still go on to give us salvation
Isaiah 20:6 And those living by the sea will say in that day, See the fate of our hope to whom
we went for help and salvation from the king of Assyria
Proverbs 2:12 Wisdom will save you from the ways of wicked men .... Giving you salvation from the evil man, from those whose words are false
2 Chronicles 32:22 So the Lord gave Hezekiah and the people of Jerusalem salvation from the power of Sennacherib, the king of Assyria
2 Timothy 2:10 For that reason, I endure everything for the sake of those who have been chosen
so that they, too, may receive salvation from Christ Jesus with glory
Proverbs 10:2 Wealth which comes from sin is of no profit, but righteousness gives salvation from death.
Romans 5:9 Much more, if we now have righteousness by his blood, will salvation
from the wrath of God come to us through him.

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God has saved some people-- albeit temporarily-- from death this side of the grave:  they didn't die, when had not God intervened, they would have died.
God has saved some people-- albeit temporarily-- whose physical bodies had died, and then God resurrected them in their physical bodies.  E.g., Jesus raised Lazarus, and Peter raised Gazelle aka Tabitha.  (Both Lazaras and Gazelle later died this side of the grave.)
Supposedly, some have been saved permanently from dying this side of the grave:  Sadhu Sundar Singh supposedly met a guy in the early 1900s who was a cousin of someone converted by Francis Xavier 400+ years earlier.  Also, Elijah never died.
After dying a physical death, many go on to die an additional death in the afterlife.  It's unpleasant to varying degrees to die in the afterlife.  Because of what Jesus did, many through the centuries have been saved from dying a death in the afterlife:  they never experienced dying in the afterlife.  Because of what Jesus did, even those who have died in the afterlife will at some point be restored to life.

gloss added: Acts 9:36
Acts 9:36 (based on Younan of pesh itta.org)
Now there was a certain talmidtha [female student] in the medintha [city] of Yoppa whose name was Tabitha.[Gazelle] This (one) was rich in good deeds and in the zedqata [alms] that she did.

The Greek translation of the original Aramaic of the book of Acts gives a transliteration of an Aramaic word and then explicitly says it translates that word:

Acts 9:36 (NABRE), biblehub
Now in Joppa there was a disciple named Tabitha (which translated means Dorcas).[a] She was completely occupied with good deeds and almsgiving.
a: Tabitha (Dorcas), respectively the Aramaic and Greek words for "gazelle,". . . .

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"As for Nineveh, they were merely SPARED destruction....for a time"
They thought their getting spared was significant.  It mattered greatly to them.

"They weren't converted into Israelites"
It's not possible to get Jacob as one's biological ancestor if one didn't have Jacob as a biological ancestor.  It was possible to convert to adhering to the religion of Jacob.  Some here converted to Judaism, but who knows how sincere the conversions were and how long they lasted:

Esther 8:17 (Young's Literal)
https://biblehub .com/interlinear/esther/8-17.htm
https://biblehub .com/esther/8-17.htm
and in every province and province, and in every city and city, the place where the word of the king, even his law, is coming, gladness and joy are to the Jews [3064 lay?yə?hū?ḏ?m/ had the Jews], a banquet, and a good day; and many of the peoples of the land are becoming Jews [3054 miṯ?ya?hă?ḏ?m/ מִֽתְיַהֲדִ֔ים/ became Jews], for a fear of the Jews [3064 hay?yə?hū?ḏ?m/הַיְּהוּדִ֖ים/ of the Jews] hath fallen upon them.

Do you consider any of those converts by virtue of their conversion "Israelites"?
Do you agree with me that the Moabite Ruth became an Israelite via her adoption of Judaism and marriage to a descendant of Jacob?

Probably a Canaanite, Tamar had sex with Judah, and gave birth to the twins Perez and Zerah (Gen 38). The family of Perez was spoken highly of in Ruth 4:12. The Messiah had a lineage that included probably-Canaanite Tamar, Jericho-prostitute Rahab, and Moabite Ruth (Mt 1:3, 5)

"The Messiah's Kingdom did include Israelites from every nation, tongue, etc. Remember they were scattered to the four corners, from where God would bring them back" The Messiah's Kingdom also included Abraham, Abraham's son Isaac, the Moabite Ruth, the Jericho prostitute Rahab, the Samaritan woman at the well, the Ethiopian believer in/adherent of Judaism that Philip preached to, members of Caesar's household, the God-fearing Cornelius, the people of Nineveh that repented at the preaching of Jonah, the Queen of Sheba, those that heeded Jesus' preaching in Sheol, and Nicholas from Antioch (a convert to Judaism who became a follower of Jesus).  Paul wanted _everyone_ he preached to, including Caesar, Felix, King Agrippa, the Stoics, the Epicureans, and the Roman soldiers guarding him to enter the Messiah's Kingdom.

"Psalm 87 doesn't say ANYTHING to me akin to including other peoples into His covenant"
I also don't see anything there about other peoples being included in any covenants.  I do see God saying that Rahab i.e. Egypt, Babylon, Philistia, Tyre, and Cush as among those that would know God:

Psalm 87 (NIV)
Of the Sons of Korah. A psalm. A song.
1 He has founded his city on the holy mountain.
2 The Lord loves the gates of Zion
more than all the other dwellings of Jacob.
3 Glorious things are said of you, city of God:
4 "I will record Rahab and Babylon
among those who acknowledge me--
Philistia too, and Tyre, along with Cush--
and will say, 'This one was born in Zion.' "
5 Indeed, of Zion it will be said,
"This one and that one were born in her,
and the Most High himself will establish her."
6 The Lord will write in the register of the peoples:
"This one was born in Zion."
7 As they make music they will sing,
"All my fountains are in you."

"You said 'God is madly in love with people-- all people.'  This is CONTRARY to scripture"
Including this?:

John 3 (Young's Literal), my brackets
14 'And as Moses did lift up the serpent in the wilderness,
so it behoveth the Son of Man to be lifted up,
15 that every one who is believing in him may not perish,
but may have life age-[en]during,
16 for God did so love the world [2889 kosmon/ κόσμον/ world], that
His Son-- the only begotten-- He gave,
that every one [3956 pas/ πᾶς/ everyone] who is believing [4100 pisteuōn/ πιστεύων/ believing]
in him
may not perish,
but may have life age-[en]during. 

"It's right there...a light to the nations....the scattered lost Israelites...raise up and restore the tribes of Jacob...being a light bringing salvation (the gospel) to the ends of the land (ge)"
Are you aware of any other instances in the book of Isaiah where "the nations"/ 1471 gō?w?yim/ גּוֹיִ֔ם equals:
"the scattered lost Israelites"?
not-scattered, not-lost Israelites?

https://biblehub .com/interlinear/isaiah/49-6.htm
1471 gō?w?yim/ גּוֹיִ֔ם N‑mp [I assume "p" stands for 'plural']
3444 yə ū ā ṯ/ יְשׁוּעָתִ֖י/ My salvation
to
7097 / qə ṣ h/ קְצֵ֥ה/ the ends
776 hā ā reṣ/ הָאָֽרֶץ/ of the earth [/land]

"So if group A were aware of instructions for them from God, and group B were NOT because God did not give them instructions.....well here's a couple scriptures that speak to that"
Like this:

Romans 2 (Young's Literal), my v. 7 bracket
3 And dost thou think this, O man, who
art judging those who such things are practising,
and art doing them,
that thou shalt escape the judgment of God?
4 or the riches of His goodness, and forbearance, and long-suffering,
dost thou despise?--
not knowing that the goodness of God doth lead thee to reformation!
5 but, according to thy hardness and impenitent heart,
thou dost treasure up to thyself wrath,
in a day of wrath and of the revelation of the righteous judgment of God,
6 who shall render to each according to his works;
7 to those, indeed, who in continuance of a good work,
do seek glory, and honour, and incorruptibility--
life age-[en]during;
8 and to those contentious, and disobedient, indeed, to the truth, and obeying the unrighteousness--
indignation and wrath,
9 tribulation and distress, upon every soul of man that is working the evil,
both of Jew first, and of Greek;
10 and glory, and honour, and peace, to every one who is working the good,
both to Jew first, and to Greek.
11 For there is no acceptance of faces with God,
12 for as many as without law did sin,
without law also shall perish,
and as many as did sin in law,
through law shall be judged,
13 for not the hearers of the law [are] righteous before God,
but the doers of the law shall be declared righteous: --
14 For, when nations that have not a law,
by nature may do the things of the law,
these not having a law-- to themselves are a law;
15 who do shew the work of the law written in their hearts,
their conscience also witnessing with them,
and between one another the thoughts accusing or else defending,
16 in the day when God shall judge the secrets of men,
according to my good news, through Jesus Christ.

"This is about saving a REMNANT of ISRAEL, His SONS, HIS PEOPLE, from among the nations...even being protected in spite of others. It's NOT all inclusive, it's EXCLUSIVE"
In Dan 7:27's "all dominions do serve and obey Him," is the "all dominions" "NOT all inclusive"?

Daniel 7 (Young's Literal), my "[en]" bracket in 14 and 27
9 'I was seeing till that thrones have been thrown down, and the Ancient of Days is seated, His garment as snow [is] white, and the hair of his head [is] as pure wool, His throne flames of fire, its wheels burning fire.
10 A flood of fire is proceeding and coming forth from before Him, a thousand thousands do serve Him, and a myriad of myriads before Him do rise up, the Judge is seated, and the books have been opened.  ....
13 'I was seeing in the visions of the night, and lo, with the clouds of the heavens as a son of man was [one] coming, and unto the Ancient of Days he hath come, and before Him they have brought him near.
14 And to him is given dominion, and glory, and a kingdom, and all peoples, nations, and languages do serve him, his dominion [is] a dominion age-[en]during, that passeth not away, and his kingdom that which is not destroyed.  ....
27 and the kingdom, and the dominion, even the greatness of the kingdom under the whole heavens, is given to the people-- the saints of the Most High, His kingdom [is] a kingdom age-[en]during, and all dominions do serve and obey Him.

"lawlessness is transgressing the Mosaic law"
Did the people that died in:
the Flood engage in lawlessness?
Sodom engage in lawlessness?

"I didn't get the memo"
Has your conscience ever told you you did something evil?
God often whispers to people, and those God-whispers comprise part of the 'conscience.'

"there is not a law of God that convicts humanity of sin"
In your lifetime:
has anyone ever sinned against you/ done something evil to you?
have you done anything similar to somebody else?

My role model Jesus regularly responded to questions with a question.
Anytime person X recognizes person Y's action A as evil, and then goes on to inflict action A on individual Z, person X sins by violating a law they recognized.

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Besides Isaiah 49:6, which if any of the 'nations' plural below do you consider a reference to the lost, scattered tribes of Israel?

1471. גּוֹי (goy)
https://biblehub .com/hebrew/strongs_1471.htm
Isaiah 2:2
NAS: And all the nations will stream
Isaiah 2:4
KJV: And he shall judge among the nations, and shall rebuke
Isaiah 9:1
KJV: Jordan, in Galilee of the nations.

Isaiah 10:7
NAS: And to cut off many nations.
Isaiah 11:10
NAS: Then in that day The nations will resort
Isaiah 11:12
INT: will lift A standard the nations and assemble the outcasts
Isaiah 13:4
INT: of the uproar of kingdoms of nations gathered the LORD
Isaiah 14:6
NAS: Which subdued the nations in anger
Isaiah 14:9
NAS: the kings of the nations from their thrones.
Isaiah 14:12
NAS: You who have weakened the nations!
Isaiah 14:18
NAS: the kings of the nations lie
Isaiah 14:26
KJV: that is stretched out upon all the nations.
Isaiah 16:8
KJV: the lords of the heathen have broken down

Isaiah 23:3
NAS: And she was the market of nations.
Isaiah 25:3
NAS: of ruthless nations will revere
Isaiah 25:7
KJV: that is spread over all nations.
Isaiah 29:7
KJV: And the multitude of all the nations that fight
Isaiah 29:8
INT: the multitude of all the nations wage against
Isaiah 30:28
NAS: To shake the nations back
KJV: to sift the nations with the sieve
Isaiah 33:3
KJV: at the lifting up of thyself the nations were scattered.
Isaiah 34:1
NAS: Draw near, O nations, to hear;
Isaiah 34:2
KJV: of the LORD [is] upon all nations, and [his] fury
Isaiah 36:18
NAS: of the gods of the nations delivered
Isaiah 37:12
KJV: Have the gods of the nations delivered

Isaiah 40:15
NAS: Behold, the nations are like a drop
Isaiah 40:17
NAS: All the nations are as nothing before
Isaiah 41:2
NAS: He delivers up nations before
Isaiah 42:1
INT: and justice to the nations will bring
Isaiah 42:6
NAS: As a light to the nations,
Isaiah 43:9
NAS: All the nations have gathered together
Isaiah 45:1
KJV: to subdue nations before
Isaiah 45:20
NAS: you fugitives of the nations; They have
KJV: ye [that are] escaped of the nations: they have no knowledge
Isaiah 49:6
NAS: You a light of the nations So that My salvation
Isaiah 49:22
INT: will lift to the nations my hand to

Isaiah 52:10
KJV: in the eyes of all the nations; and all the ends
Isaiah 52:15
KJV: many nations; the kings
Isaiah 54:3
NAS: will possess nations And will resettle

Isaiah 60:3
NAS: Nations will come to your light,
Isaiah 60:5
NAS: to you, The wealth of the nations will come
Isaiah 60:11
NAS: to you the wealth of the nations, With their kings
Isaiah 60:12
KJV: thee shall perish; yea, [those] nations shall be utterly
Isaiah 60:16
INT: suck the milk of nations the breast of kings
Isaiah 61:6
NAS: the wealth of nations, And in their riches
INT: shall call the wealth of nations will eat their riches
Isaiah 61:9
NAS: will be known among the nations, And their descendants
Isaiah 61:11
KJV: to spring forth before all the nations.
Isaiah 62:2
NAS: The nations will see
INT: will see the nations your righteousness and all
Isaiah 64:2
NAS: to Your adversaries, [That] the nations may tremble

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Do you think the tall Sabeans mentioned in Isaiah 45:14 were part of the lost, scattered tribes of Israel?

Isaiah 45 (Berean Study Bible)
14 This is what the LORD says:
"The products of Egypt and the merchandise of Cush,
along with the Sabeans, men of stature,
will come over to you
and will be yours;
they will trudge behind you;
they will come over in chains and bow down to you.
They will confess to you:
'God is indeed with you, and there is no other;
there is no other God.' "  ....
17 But Israel will be saved by the LORD
with an everlasting salvation;
you will not be put to shame or humiliated,
to ages everlasting.  ....
19 I have not spoken in secret,
from a place in a land of darkness.
I did not say to the descendants of Jacob,
'Seek Me in a wasteland.'
I, the LORD, speak the truth;
I say what is right.
20 Come, gather together, and draw near,
you fugitives from the nations.
Ignorant are those who carry idols of wood
and pray to a god that cannot save.  ....
23 By Myself I have sworn;
truth has gone out from My mouth,
a word that will not be revoked:
Every knee will bow before Me,
every tongue will swear allegiance.
24 Surely they will say of Me,
'In the LORD alone are righteousness and strength.' "
All who rage against Him
will come to Him and be put to shame.
25 In the LORD all descendants of Israel
will be justified and will exult.

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Re: the Mt 22 parable below, who or what is represented by:
the "King who made a wedding feast for his son"?
that son?
"those invited to the wedding feast"?
the King's servants who were "seized, abused and killed"?

For v. 7, "the King... was angry and he sent his armies, destroyed those murderers, and burned their city," did anything like that ever occur in history?
For v. 9's "Go therefore to the ends of the roads and call everyone whom you find to the wedding feast," who or what is represented by that "everyone"?
Someone who "was not wearing a wedding garment" got ejected from the feast.  What does "wearing a wedding garment" represent?

("Heaven" was sometimes used as a circumspect way of saying 'God.'
In the book of Matthew, 'Kingdom of Heaven' means 'Kingdom of God.')

Matthew 22 (Aramaic Bible in Plain English), biblehub
1 Again, Yeshua answered in a parable, and he said:
2 "The Kingdom of Heaven is compared to a man who was a King who made a wedding feast for his son.
3 And he sent his servants to call those invited to the wedding feast, and they chose not to come.
4 Again he sent other servants, and he said,
"Tell those invited, 'Behold, my banquet is ready, and my oxen and my fatlings are killed, everything is prepared; come to the wedding feast.' "
5 And they showed contempt and went, one to his field, and another to his commerce. 6 But the rest seized, abused and killed his servants.
7 But when the King heard, he was angry and he sent his armies, destroyed those murderers, and burned their city. 8 Then he said to his servants,
'The wedding feast is ready, and those who were invited were not worthy.'
9 'Go therefore to the ends of the roads and call everyone whom you find to the wedding feast.' 10 And those servants went out to the roads, and they gathered everyone whom they found, bad and good, and the place of the wedding feast was filled with guests.
11 And the King entered to see the guests and he saw a man there who was not wearing a wedding garment. 12 And he said to him, 'My friend, how did you enter here when you did not have a wedding garment?' But he was speechless. 13 Then the King said to the attendants, 'Bind his hands and his feet and cast him out into outer darkness; there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth.' 14 "For the called are many and the chosen are few."

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"the law was given exclusively to Israel only"
So this law against murder "was given exclusively to Israel only"?:

Genesis 9 (HCSB)
1 God blessed Noah and his sons and said to them,
"Be fruitful and multiply and fill the earth.
2 The fear and terror of you will be in
every living creature on the earth,
every bird of the sky,
every creature that crawls on the ground,
and all the fish of the sea.
They are placed under your authority.
3 Every living creature will be food for you;
as I gave the green plants, I have given you everything.
4 However, you must not eat meat with its lifeblood in it.
5 I will require the life of every animal and every man
for your life and your blood.
I will require the life of each man's brother
for a man's life.
6 Whoever sheds man's blood,
his blood will be shed by man,
for God made man in His image.
7 But you, be fruitful and multiply;
spread out over the earth and multiply on it."
8 Then God said to Noah and his sons with him,
9 "Understand that I am confirming My covenant
with you and your descendants after you,
10 and with every living creature that is with you-- 
birds, livestock, and all wildlife of the earth that are with you-- 
all the animals of the earth that came out of the ark.
11 I confirm My covenant with you that
never again will every creature be wiped out by the waters of a flood;
there will never again be a flood to destroy the earth."
12 And God said,
"This is the sign of the covenant I am making
between Me and you and every living creature with you,
a covenant for all future generations:
I have placed My bow in the clouds,
and it will be a sign of the covenant between Me and the earth.

"Go to the end of the story to see who they were that got saved"
When Rev 21 says "The nations will walk in its light, and the kings of the earth will bring their glory into it," are you telling me that "the nations... and the kings of the earth" "got saved"?

Revelation 21 (HCSB), biblehub
24 The nations will walk in its light,
and the kings of the earth will bring their glory into it.
25 Each day its gates will never close
because it will never be night there.
26 They will bring the glory and honor of the nations into it.

"God died to redeem his people"
Including Moab, Edom, and Philistia?

Psalm 108 (HCSB), biblehub
7 God has spoken in His sanctuary:
"I will triumph!
I will divide up Shechem.
I will apportion the Valley of Succoth.
8 Gilead is Mine, Manasseh is Mine,
and Ephraim is My helmet;
Judah is My scepter.
9 Moab is My washbasin;
I throw My sandal on Edom.
I shout in triumph over Philistia."

Ruth 4 (NIV)
.... "I will redeem it," he said.
5 Then Boaz said, "On the day you buy the land from Naomi, you also acquire Ruth the Moabite, the dead man's widow, in order to maintain the name of the dead with his property."
6 At this, the guardian-redeemer said, "Then I cannot redeem it because I might endanger my own estate. You redeem it yourself. I cannot do it."
7 (Now in earlier times in Israel, for the redemption and transfer of property to become final, one party took off his sandal and gave it to the other. This was the method of legalizing transactions in Israel.)
8 So the guardian-redeemer said to Boaz, "Buy it yourself." And he removed his sandal.
9 Then Boaz announced to the elders and all the people, "Today you are witnesses that I have bought from Naomi all the property of Elimelek, Kilion and Mahlon. 10 I have also acquired Ruth the Moabite, Mahlon's widow, as my wife, in order to maintain the name of the dead with his property, so that his name will not disappear from among his family or from his hometown. Today you are witnesses!"

"He didn't die for people he knew he was never going to redeem"
Ezekiel 16 says Sodom would be restored.  Who won't ever be redeemed?

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"the law against murder was given exclusively to Israel only"
Do you agree with me that Jacob aka Israel was born many years after the Flood?

"The nation of Ethiopia was not responsible to obey the covenant law of Israel"
Do you agree with me that:
the Ethiopian that Philip preached to was an adherent of Judaism?  and as such, sought to obey the Mosaic law?
converts to Judaism sought to obey the Mosaic law?
the Moabite Ruth became an Israelite via her adoption of Judaism and marriage to a descendant of Jacob?

"The Queen of Sheba and the Ninevites did literally rise up in the judgement"
Do you agree with me that Nineveh had acted wickedly-- despite not being under the Mosaic law?

Jonah 1:1-2 (NIV)
The word of the LORD came to Jonah son of Amittai:
"Go to the great city of Nineveh and preach against it,
because its wickedness has come up before me."

"Only Israel was under law"
Do you agree with me that Sodom had acted wickedly-- despite not being under the Mosaic law?

"God made the new covenant with the house of Israel and the house of Judah"
And per Ezekiel 16, Israel was worse than Sodom, so God's rescuing Israel necessitated God's also rescuing Sodom.

"Christ died only for the sins committed under the first covenant"
Christ preached to those who had died in the Flood.  Did Christ die for those individuals' sins?

"Go to the end of the story to see who they were that got saved"
When Rev 21 says "The nations will walk in its light, and the kings of the earth will bring their glory into it," are you telling me that "the nations... and the kings of the earth" "got saved"?

Revelation 21 (HCSB), biblehub
24 The nations will walk in its light,
and the kings of the earth will bring their glory into it.
25 Each day its gates will never close
because it will never be night there.
26 They will bring the glory and honor of the nations into it.

"God died to redeem his people"
Including Moab, Edom, and Philistia?

Psalm 108 (HCSB), biblehub
7 God has spoken in His sanctuary:
"I will triumph!
I will divide up Shechem.
I will apportion the Valley of Succoth.
8 Gilead is Mine, Manasseh is Mine,
and Ephraim is My helmet;
Judah is My scepter.
9 Moab is My washbasin;
I throw My sandal on Edom.
I shout in triumph over Philistia."

Ruth 4 (NIV)
.... "I will redeem it," he said.
5 Then Boaz said, "On the day you buy the land from Naomi, you also acquire Ruth the Moabite, the dead man's widow, in order to maintain the name of the dead with his property."
6 At this, the guardian-redeemer said, "Then I cannot redeem it because I might endanger my own estate. You redeem it yourself. I cannot do it."
7 (Now in earlier times in Israel, for the redemption and transfer of property to become final, one party took off his sandal and gave it to the other. This was the method of legalizing transactions in Israel.)
8 So the guardian-redeemer said to Boaz, "Buy it yourself." And he removed his sandal.
9 Then Boaz announced to the elders and all the people, "Today you are witnesses that I have bought from Naomi all the property of Elimelek, Kilion and Mahlon. 10 I have also acquired Ruth the Moabite, Mahlon's widow, as my wife, in order to maintain the name of the dead with his property, so that his name will not disappear from among his family or from his hometown. Today you are witnesses!"

"He didn't die for people he knew he was never going to redeem"
Ezekiel 16 says Sodom would be restored.  Who won't ever be redeemed?

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"Only Israel rose in the judgement"
Reference?

Matthew 12 (Aramaic Bible in Plain English)
41 The Ninevite men will arise in the judgment with this generation
and will condemn it,
for they repented at the preaching of Jonah,
and behold, one greater than Jonah is here.
42 The queen of The South will arise in the judgment with this generation
and will condemn it,
for she came from the ends of the earth to hear the wisdom of Solomon,
and behold, one greater than Solomon is here.

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"the end of the Bible story has already occurred by A.D. 70"
Is has the increase of the Messiah's rule and peace ended?

Isaiah 9:7 (Young's Literal)
To the increase of the princely power,
And of peace, there is no end,
On the throne of David, and on his kingdom,
To establish it, and to support it,
In judgment and in righteousness,
Henceforth, even unto the age,
The zeal of Jehovah of Hosts doth this.

When Daniel 2 speaks of a [v. 35]"rock that... became a huge mountain and filled the whole earth," and says [v. 44]"the God of heaven will set up a kingdom that will never be destroyed, nor will it be left to another people. It will crush all those kingdoms and bring them to an end, but it will itself endure forever," do you believe that that God-instituted kingdom already "filled the whole earth"?

Daniel 2 (NIV), https://biblehub.com/niv/daniel/2.htm
34 While you were watching, a rock was cut out, but not by human hands. It struck the statue on its feet of iron and clay and smashed them. 35 Then the iron, the clay, the bronze, the silver and the gold were all broken to pieces and became like chaff on a threshing floor in the summer. The wind swept them away without leaving a trace. But the rock that struck the statue became a huge mountain and filled the whole earth. 36 "This was the dream, and now we will interpret it to the king.  ....
44 "In the time of those kings, the God of heaven will set up a kingdom that will never be destroyed, nor will it be left to another people. It will crush all those kingdoms and bring them to an end, but it will itself endure forever. 45 This is the meaning of the vision of the rock cut out of a mountain, but not by human hands-- a rock that broke the iron, the bronze, the clay, the silver and the gold to pieces.
"The great God has shown the king what will take place in the future. The dream is true and its interpretation is trustworthy."

When Daniel 7 speaks of someone [v. 13-14]"as a son of man" coming "with the clouds of the heavens.... and to him is given dominion, and glory, and a kingdom, and all peoples, nations, and languages do serve him, his dominion [is] a dominion age-[en]during, that passeth not away, and his kingdom that which is not destroyed," do you think that "all peoples, nations, and languages do serve" that "son of man"?

Daniel 7 (Young's Literal), my "[en]" bracket in 14 and 27
9 'I was seeing till that thrones have been thrown down, and the Ancient of Days is seated, His garment as snow [is] white, and the hair of his head [is] as pure wool, His throne flames of fire, its wheels burning fire.
10 A flood of fire is proceeding and coming forth from before Him, a thousand thousands do serve Him, and a myriad of myriads before Him do rise up, the Judge is seated, and the books have been opened.  ....
13 'I was seeing in the visions of the night, and lo, with the clouds of the heavens as a son of man was [one] coming, and unto the Ancient of Days he hath come, and before Him they have brought him near.
14 And to him is given dominion, and glory, and a kingdom, and all peoples, nations, and languages do serve him, his dominion [is] a dominion age-[en]during, that passeth not away, and his kingdom that which is not destroyed.  ....
27 and the kingdom, and the dominion, even the greatness of the kingdom under the whole heavens, is given to the people-- the saints of the Most High, His kingdom [is] a kingdom age-[en]during, and all dominions do serve and obey Him.

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Revelation 12 in Preterist Perspective - Sept 20, 2020 [his Rev book isn't yet published AFAICT]
https://www.forerunner.com/blog/revelation-12-in-preterist-perspective

_In The Days of These Kings: The Book of Daniel in Preterist Perspective_ by Jay Rogers (2019), 740pp.  On 703-4
https://books.google.com/books?id=Xq9GDwAAQBAJ&lpg=PA703&ots=O7QP4v8KOw&dq=jay%20rogers%20%22a%20present%20reality%22&pg=PA704#v=onepage&q=jay%20rogers%20%22a%20present%20reality%22&f=false

When Psalm 2 says to the Messiah, [v. 8-9]"Ask of Me and I give nations-- thy inheritance, And thy possession-- the ends of earth. Thou dost rule them with a sceptre of iron, As a vessel of a potter Thou dost crush them," to what does "nations" refer?  (biological descendants of Jacob-- and _only_ them?)

Psalm 2 (Young's Literal)
1 Why have nations tumultuously assembled?
And do peoples meditate vanity?
2 Station themselves do kings of the earth,
And princes have been united together,
Against Jehovah, and against His Messiah:
3 'Let us draw off Their cords,
And cast from us Their thick bands.'
4 He who is sitting in the heavens doth laugh,
The Lord doth mock at them.
5 Then doth He speak unto them in His anger,
And in His wrath He doth trouble them:
6 'And I-- I have anointed My King,
Upon Zion-- My holy hill.'
7 I declare concerning a statute:
Jehovah said unto me,
'My Son Thou [art], I to-day have brought thee forth.
8 Ask of Me and I give nations-- thy inheritance,
And thy possession-- the ends of earth.
9 Thou dost rule them with a sceptre of iron,
As a vessel of a potter Thou dost crush them.'
10 And now, O kings, act wisely,
Be instructed, O judges of earth,
11 Serve ye Jehovah with fear,
And rejoice with trembling.
12 Kiss the Chosen One,
lest He be angry,
And ye lose the way,
When His anger burneth but a little,
O the happiness of all trusting in Him!

To who or what does "nations" here refer?:

Revelation 2 (Aramaic Bible in Plain English)
26 "To him who is victorious and keeps my works,
I shall give authority over the nations,"
27 "To Shepherd them with a rod of iron,
and like the vessels of a potter you shall shatter them,
for in the same manner I have also received of my Father."

Revelation 12:5 (Aramaic Bible in Plain English)
And she delivered the Son,
the Male who was to Shepherd all the nations with a rod of iron.
And her Son was caught up to God and to his throne.

Revelation 19 (Aramaic Bible in Plain English)
13 And he wore a garment soaked with blood,
and his name is called The Word of God.
14 And the armies of Heaven were joined to him on white horses
and were wearing linen white and pure.
15 And sharp swords came out of their mouths
by which they will kill the nations,
and he will shepherd them with a rod of iron
and he treads the winepress of the wrath of Almighty God.
16 And he has on his garment over his thigh the name written:
"The King of Kings and The Lord of Power".

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Do you think John the Baptizer considered it important to have Abraham as biological forefather?

Luke 3:8 (NIV)
Produce fruit in keeping with repentance.
And do not begin to say to yourselves,
'We have Abraham as our father.'
For I tell you that out of these stones
God can raise up children for Abraham.

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"Rev 2:26 is quoting from Psalm 2. We know that Israel would inherit the promised land (not planet).  .... Psalm 2 is speaking to ISRAEL, not other nations. It is concerned with teaching ISRAEL about the anointed one of God, fulfilling the promises to Abraham, about increasing His descendants and giving them the LAND"

So when Ps 2 says, "Why have nations tumultuously assembled," those "nations" are Israel?

And re: "kings of the earth, And princes have been united together, Against Jehovah, and against His Messiah," those "kings of the earth" are kings of Israel?

And re: "My Son.... Ask of Me and I give nations-- thy inheritance, And thy possession-- the ends of earth," those "nations" and "the ends of earth" is talking about the land of Israel?

And re: "Thou dost rule them with a sceptre of iron, As a vessel of a potter Thou dost crush them," the "them" is Israel?

Psalm 2 (Young's Literal)
1 Why have nations tumultuously assembled?
And do peoples meditate vanity?
2 Station themselves do kings of the earth,
And princes have been united together,
Against Jehovah, and against His Messiah:
3 'Let us draw off Their cords,
And cast from us Their thick bands.'
4 He who is sitting in the heavens doth laugh,
The Lord doth mock at them.
5 Then doth He speak unto them in His anger,
And in His wrath He doth trouble them:
6 'And I-- I have anointed My King,
Upon Zion-- My holy hill.'
7 I declare concerning a statute:
Jehovah said unto me,
'My Son Thou [art], I to-day have brought thee forth.
8 Ask of Me and I give nations-- thy inheritance,
And thy possession-- the ends of earth.
9 Thou dost rule them with a sceptre of iron,
As a vessel of a potter Thou dost crush them.'
10 And now, O kings, act wisely,
Be instructed, O judges of earth,
11 Serve ye Jehovah with fear, ....

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"he was born blind for God's glory"
Maybe that's mispunctuated, and is better rendered this way:

John 9:3-4
Jesus said to them,
"He did not sin nor his parents.
But that the work of God might be seen in him,
it is necessary for me to do the works
of Him who sent me while it is daytime.
The night is coming when man is not able to work.

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When The Psalms of Solomon 17 speaks of "the nations," do you think that refers to:
'the scattered, lost tribes of Israel'?
'the land of Israel'?

"4 And the kingdom of our God is for ever over the nations in judgement. ....
15 (13) Being an alien the enemy acted proudly,
And his heart was alien from our God.
16 (14) And all things whatsoever he did in Jerusalem,
As also the nations in the cities to their gods.  ....
25 And that he may purge Jerusalem from nations that trample (her) down to destruction.
(23) Wisely, righteously 26 he shall thrust out sinners from (the) inheritance,
He shall destroy the pride of the sinner as a potter's vessel.
(24) With a rod of iron he shall break in pieces all their substance,
21 He shall destroy the godless nations with the word of his mouth;

(25) At his rebuke nations shall flee before him,
And he shall reprove sinners for the thoughts of their heart.  ....
(29) He shall judge peoples and nations in the wisdom of his righteousness. Selah.  ....
32 (30) And he shall have the heathen nations to serve him under his yoke;
And he shall glorify the Lord in a place to be seen of (?) all the earth;
33 And he shall purge Jerusalem, making it holy as of old:
34 (31) So that nations shall come from the ends of the earth to see his glory,
Bringing as gifts her sons who had fainted,
35 And to see the glory of the Lord,
wherewith God hath glorified her.
....
38 (34) The Lord Himself is his king,
the hope of him that is mighty through (his) hope in God.
All nations (shall be) in fear before him,
39 (35) For he will smite the earth with the word of his mouth for ever.   ....
51 May the Lord hasten His mercy upon Israel!
May He deliver us from the uncleanness of unholy enemies!
The Lord Himself is our king for ever and ever."

The Psalms of Solomon
https://carm.org/psalms-of-solomon
XVII. A Psalm. Of Solomon. With Song. Of the King.
17 1 O Lord, Thou art our King for ever and ever,
For in Thee, O God, doth our soul glory.
2 How long are the days of man's life upon the earth?
As are his days, so is the hope (set) upon him.
3 But we hope in God, our deliverer;
For the might of our God is for ever with mercy,
4 And the kingdom of our God is for ever over the nations in judgement.
5 (4) Thou, O Lord, didst choose David (to be) king over Israel,
And swaredst to him touching his seed that
never should his kingdom fail before Thee.
6 (5) But, for our sins, sinners rose up against us;
They assailed us and thrust us out;
What Thou hadst not promised to them,
they took away (from us) with violence.
7 They in no wise glorified Thy honourable name;
(6) They set a (worldly) monarchy in place of (that which was) their excellency;
8 They laid waste the throne of David in tumultuous arrogance.
(7) But Thou, O God, didst cast them down
and remove their seed from the earth,
9 In that there rose up against them a man that was alien to our race.

10 (8) According to their sins didst Thou recompense them, O God;
So that it befell them according to their deeds.
11 (9) God showed them no pity;
He sought out their seed and let not one of them go free.
12 (10) Faithful is the Lord in all His judgements
Which He doeth upon the earth.
13 (11) The lawless one laid waste our land so that none inhabited it,
They destroyed young and old and their children together.
14 (12) In the heat of His anger He sent them away even unto the west,
And (He exposed) the rulers of the land unsparingly to derision.
15 (13) Being an alien the enemy acted proudly,
And his heart was alien from our God.
16 (14) And all things whatsoever he did in Jerusalem,
As also the nations in the cities to their gods.
17 (15) And the children of the covenant in the midst of the mingled peoples surpassed them in evil.
There was not among them one that wrought in the midst of Jerusalem mercy and truth.
18 (16) They that loved the synagogues of the pious fled from them,
As sparrows that fly from their nest.
19 (17) They wandered in deserts that their lives might be saved from harm,
And precious in the eyes of them that lived abroad was any that escaped alive from them.

20 (18) Over the whole earth were they scattered by lawless (men).
21 (19) For the heavens withheld the rain from dropping upon the earth,
Springs were stopped (that sprang) perennial(ly) out of the deeps,
(that ran down) from lofty mountains.
For there was none among them that wrought righteousness and justice;
(20) From the chief of them to the least (of them) all were sinful;
22 The king was a transgressor,
and the judge disobedient,
and the people sinful.
23 (21) Behold, O Lord, and raise up unto them their king, the son of David,
At the time in the which Thou seest, O God, that he may reign over Israel Thy servant
24 (22) And gird him with strength, that he may shatter unrighteous rulers,
25 And that he may purge Jerusalem from nations that trample (her) down to destruction.
(23) Wisely, righteously 26 he shall thrust out sinners from (the) inheritance,
He shall destroy the pride of the sinner as a potter's vessel.
(24) With a rod of iron he shall break in pieces all their substance,
21 He shall destroy the godless nations with the word of his mouth;
(25) At his rebuke nations shall flee before him,
And he shall reprove sinners for the thoughts of their heart.
28 (26) And he shall gather together a holy people,
whom he shall lead in righteousness,
And he shall judge the tribes of the people
that has been sanctified by the Lord his God.
29 (21) And he shall not suffer unrighteousness to lodge any more in their midst,
Nor shall there dwell with them any man that knoweth wickedness,

30 For he shall know them, that they are all sons of their God.
(28) And he shaIl divide them according to their tribes upon the land,
31 And neither sojourner nor alien shall sojourn with them any more.
(29) He shall judge peoples and nations in the wisdom of his righteousness. Selah.
32 (30) And he shall have the heathen nations to serve him under his yoke;
And he shall glorify the Lord in a place to be seen of (?) all the earth;
33 And he shall purge Jerusalem, making it holy as of old:
34 (31) So that nations shall come from the ends of the earth to see his glory,
Bringing as gifts her sons who had fainted,
35 And to see the glory of the Lord,
wherewith God hath glorified her.
(32) And he (shall be) a righteous king, taught of God, over them,
36 And there shall be no unrighteousness in his days in their midst,
For all shall be holy and their king the anointed of the Lord.
37 (33) For he shall not put his trust in horse and rider and bow,
Nor shall he multiply for himself gold and silver for war,
Nor shall he gather confidence from (?) a multitude (?) for the day of battle.
38 (34) The Lord Himself is his king,
the hope of him that is mighty through (his) hope in God.
All nations (shall be) in fear before him,
39 (35) For he will smite the earth with the word of his mouth for ever.

40 He will bless the people of the Lord with wisdom and gladness,
41 (36) And he himself (will be) pure from sin,
so that he may rule a great people.
He will rebuke rulers, and remove sinners by the might of his word;
42 (37) And (relying) upon his God,
throughout his days he will not stumble;
For God will make him mighty by means of (His) holy spirit,
And wise by means of the spirit of understanding,
with strength and righteousness.
43 (38) And the blessing of the Lord (will be) with him:
he will be strong and stumble not;
44 (39) His hope (will be) in the Lord:
who then can prevail against him?
(40) (He will be) mighty in his works,
and strong in the fear of God,
45 (He will be) shepherding the flock of the Lord faithfully and righteously,
And will suffer none among them to stumble in their pasture.
46 (41) He will lead them all aright,
And there will be no pride among them that any among them should be oppressed.
47 (42) This (will be) the majesty of the king of Israel whom God knoweth;
He will raise him up over the house of Israel to correct him.
48 (43) His words (shall be) more refined than costly gold, the choicest;
In the assemblies he will judge the peoples,
the tribes of the sanctified.
49 His words (shall be) like the words of the holy ones in the midst of sanctified peoples.

50 Blessed be they that shall be in those days,
In that they shall see the good fortune of Israel
which God shall bring to pass in the gathering together of the tribes.
51 May the Lord hasten His mercy upon Israel!
May He deliver us from the uncleanness of unholy enemies!
The Lord Himself is our king for ever and ever.

XVIII. A Psalm. Of Solomon. Again of the Anointed of the Lord. ....

_Jesus the Jew_ by Geza Vermes (1973), 286pp., on 130-131
https://www.amazon.com/Jesus-Jew-Geza-Vermes/dp/0800614437/
What was the Messianic hope of Israel in the inter-Testamental age? What kind of Redeemer figure was expected?
A reliable answer is to be found in the least academic, and at the same time most normative, literary form:  prayer. In this respect, two significant sources have been preserved: the Psalms of Solomon, and the ancient synagogal prayer, _the_ prayer (_Tefillah_) _par excellence_, the Eighteen Benedictions. Their content of Messianic belief will be compared, with a view to verification, with that of a Qumran liturgical Blessing and with the rabbinic interpretation of classic Messianic prophecies.
Psalms 17 and 18 of Solomon derive from a first-century BC collection of poems inspired by mainstream Jewish religious ideology with a pronounced anti-Hasmonean political tendency. The title of Psalm 18, as well as verses 6 and 8 (or 5 and 7), mentions God's Anointed who will be raised up on 'the day of mercy and blessing' and will use his 'rod' to instill the 'fear of the Lord' into every man and direct them to 'the works of righteousness'.  This prayer, inspired by chapter 11 of Isaiah, is preceded by the celebrated supplication in Psalm 17 concerning the coming of the 'son of David', described also with words borrowed from the same prophet and explicitly referred to as 'the Anointed'.

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[Ps of S]"he shall have the heathen nations to serve him under his yoke"

"is BAD...not good"
How so?

Matthew 11:30 (NIV)
For my yoke is easy
and my burden is light."

Romans 6:16 (NIV)
Don't you know that
when you offer yourselves to someone as obedient slaves,
you are slaves of the one you obey--
whether you are slaves to sin,
which leads to death,
or to obedience,
which leads to righteousness?

Psalms of Solomon
https://www.biblegateway.com/resources/encyclopedia-of-the-bible/Psalms-Solomon
4. Messianism. The seventeenth psalm in this collection contains one of the clearest statements of the Jewish Messianic hope to be found in the lit. of that people. The discoveries at Qumran have contributed masses of new information, but much of it is framed in imagery so complex as to be dismaying, whereas the concepts here are found in much simpler language. The Messiah is clearly an individual. He is a son of David, in special fulfillment of God's promise after the apparent destruction of that kingship. While there is no clear statement of his divinity, he is called "the Lord Messiah." (Although commentators believe that this should be read "the Lord's messiah," there is no example of such a reading in these psalms.) Since "the Lord" refers to God only, the implication is clear.

Beyond this, it is clear that the kingdom which will be set up will be no ordinary human one, but a supernatural one wherein all wrongs and all inequities will be conclusively righted. He will purify Jerusalem, destroy the ungodly nations and convict the sinners. He will give the earth to the tribes of Israel and free them from the heathen in their midst. Yet, all this was to be done without implements of war. He would smite the earth with His word and purify the nations with His righteousness. He would care for His people as a shepherd cares for his flocks. This picture is not different from that which may be gained from a reading of canonical Messianic passages, but it is more complete and coherent. Interestingly enough, it perpetuates that ambiguity between conqueror and redeemer which was to confuse so many during Jesus' lifetime.

"consume all these kingdoms"
After all is said and done, will anyone remain outside of that kingdom?

Luke 1:33 (YLT)
and he shall reign over the house of Jacob to the ages;
and of his reign there shall be no end.'

Anyone else?  Or just the house of Jacob?

Isaiah 45:14 (NIV)
This is what the LORD says: "The products of Egypt and the merchandise of Cush, and those tall Sabeans-- they will come over to you and will be yours; they will trudge behind you, coming over to you in chains. They will bow down before you and plead with you, saying, 'Surely God is with you, and there is no other; there is no other god.'"

Isaiah 19 (Berean Study Bible), biblehub
16 In that day the Egyptians will be like women.
They will tremble with fear beneath the uplifted hand of the LORD of Hosts,
when He brandishes it against them.
17 The land of Judah will bring terror to Egypt;
whenever Judah is mentioned, Egypt will tremble over what the LORD of Hosts has planned against it.
18 In that day five cities in the land of Egypt
will speak the language of Canaan
and swear allegiance to the LORD of Hosts.
One of them will be called the City of the Sun.c
[c:  Some MT manuscripts, DSS, and Vulgate; most MT manuscripts City of Destruction]

19 In that day there will be
an altar to the LORD in the center of the land of Egypt,
and a pillar to the LORD near her border.
20 It will be a sign and a witness to the LORD of Hosts in the land of Egypt.
When they cry out to the LORD because of their oppressors,
He will send them a savior and defender to rescue them.
21 The LORD will make Himself known to Egypt,
and on that day Egypt will acknowledge the LORD.
They will worship with sacrifices and offerings;
they will make vows to the LORD and fulfill them.
22 And the LORD will strike Egypt with a plague;
He will strike them but heal them.
They will turn to the LORD,
and He will hear their prayers and heal them.

23 In that day there will be a highway from Egypt to Assyria.
The Assyrians will go to Egypt,
and the Egyptians to Assyria.
The Egyptians and Assyrians will worship together.
24 In that day Israel will join a three-party alliance
with Egypt and Assyria-- a blessing upon the earth.
25 The LORD of Hosts will bless them, saying,
"Blessed be Egypt My people,
Assyria My handiwork,
and Israel My inheritance."

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Because of ISIS, half the Muslims in Egypt became atheists.
Has the Messiah ruled over the house of Jacob?  Will the Messiah ever rule over Rahab i.e. Egypt, Babylon, Philistia, Tyre, and Cush, which God said would acknowledge God?

Psalm 87 (NIV)
Of the Sons of Korah. A psalm. A song.
1 He has founded his city on the holy mountain.
2 The Lord loves the gates of Zion
more than all the other dwellings of Jacob.
3 Glorious things are said of you, city of God:
4 "I will record Rahab and Babylon
among those who acknowledge me--
Philistia too, and Tyre, along with Cush--
and will say, 'This one was born in Zion.' "
5 Indeed, of Zion it will be said,
"This one and that one were born in her,
and the Most High himself will establish her."
6 The Lord will write in the register of the peoples:
"This one was born in Zion."
7 As they make music they will sing,
"All my fountains are in you."

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If I'm understanding correctly, you object to translating as "increase."  What translation would you prefer for Isaiah 9:7?

4766. marbeh
https://biblehub.com/hebrew/4766.htm
marbeh: abundance
Original Word: מַרְבֶה
Part of Speech: Noun Masculine
Transliteration: marbeh
Phonetic Spelling: (mar-beh')
Definition: abundance
NAS Exhaustive Concordance
Word Origin
from rabah
Definition
abundance
NASB Translation
abundant (1), increase (1).

Targum Jonathan on Isaiah 9:6
https://www.sefaria.org/Targum_Jonathan_on_Isaiah.9?lang=bi
The greatness of those who do the law shall be magnified,
and to those, that preserve peace.
There shall be no end to the throne of David,
and of his kingdom,
to establish it and to build it
in judgment and in righteousness
from henceforth, even for ever.
By the Word of the Lord of hosts this shall be done.

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"Those countries no longer exist"
Egypt exists. All the people that have ever lived, including those in Ninevah (the capital of Assyria) and Sodom, still exist.

"God only made the new covenant with"
God promised his Messiah the nations.  And that includes Egypt, and those in Assyria, Cush, Philistia, Tyre, and the Sabeans.

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Do you think "nations" in Zechariah 14 refers to the lost, scattered tribes of Israel?

Verse 9 says, "On that day the LORD will become King over all the earth-- the LORD alone."  Does "all the earth" include Egypt?

Zechariah 14 (Berean Study Bible), biblehub
1 Behold, a day of the LORD is coming
when your plunder will be divided in your presence.
2 For I will gather all the nations for battle against Jerusalem,
and the city will be captured,
the houses looted, and the women ravished.
Half of the city will go into exile,
but the rest of the people will not be removed from the city.
3 Then the LORD will go out to fight against those nations,
as He fights in the day of battle.

4 On that day His feet will stand on the Mount of Olives, east of Jerusalem,
and the Mount of Olives will be split in two from east to west,
forming a great valley,
with half the mountain moving to the north
and half to the south.
5 You will flee by My mountain valley,
for it will extend to Azal.
You will flee as you fled from the earthquake
in the days of Uzziah king of Judah.
Then the LORD my God will come,
and all the holy ones with Him.
....
8 And on that day living water will flow out from Jerusalem,
half of it toward the Eastern Sea
and the other half toward the Western Sea,
in summer and winter alike.
9 On that day the LORD will become King over all the earth--
the LORD alone, and His name alone.
10 All the land from Geba to Rimmon south of Jerusalem will be turned into a plain,
but Jerusalem will be raised up....
14 Judah will also fight at Jerusalem,
and the wealth of all the surrounding nations will be collected--
gold, silver, and apparel in great abundance.   
....
16 Then all the survivors from the nations that came against Jerusalem
will go up year after year to worship the King, the LORD of Hosts,
and to celebrate the Feast of Tabernacles.
17 And should any of the families of the earth not go up to Jerusalem
to worship the King, the LORD of Hosts,
then the rain will not fall on them.
18 And if the people of Egypt will not go up and enter in,
then the rain will not fall on them;
this will be the plague with which the LORD strikes
the nations who do not go up to celebrate the Feast of Tabernacles.
19 This will be the punishment of Egypt and of all the nations
that do not go up to celebrate the Feast of Tabernacles.

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"if we're into Jesus"

1 Corinthians 15 (Aramaic Bible in Plain English), biblehub
20 But now The Messiah is risen from among the dead
and is the first fruits of those who sleep.
21 Just as by a man death came,
in this way also
by a man the dead come to life.
22 For just as by Adam all people die,
in this way also by The Messiah they all live;
23 Each person in his order;
The Messiah was the first fruits;
after this, those who are The Messiah's at his arrival.
24 And then the end will come,
when he will deliver The Kingdom to God The Father,
when he will destroy every Ruler and every Authority and all Powers.
25 For he is going to reign until all his enemies will be set under his feet,
26 And the last enemy death shall be destroyed.
27 For he brought all things to submission under his feet.
But when it says,
"All things are subjected to him",
it is understood that it excludes him who subjected all things to him.
28 And when all is subjected to him,
then the Son shall be subject to him who subjected all things to him,
that God might be all in all.

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Some have life-- abundant life, which Jesus came to give.  In the years to come, more and more individuals will repent and will accept God's mercy and will have abundant life.  Eventually, every human will have abundant life-- including Hitler, who is currently roasting.

Mike Parsons says that God told him this:
"The restoration of all things is not Our ultimate desire but it is the way Our original intention for oneness can be achieved. Once all things are restored, then the journey continues into the ages to come; and My sons can become ascended fathers who can be like We are. Restoration first begins with the truth of who We are unveiled. Love, in Perichoresis and Trinitarian truth restored, leads to inclusion being revealed as a consequence of love's passion and zeal for relationship with our children."

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One, older covenant applied to a particular subset of humanity. 
The New Covenant of which the prophet Jesus is a spotless mediating priest applies to all of humanity: 
_everybody_ is called to bend the knee to King Jesus and come under Jesus' rule, and have Jesus be their advocate who mediates as a spotless priest between them and God.

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Blake Healy saw a massive angel fighting a massive dark angel or demon over, IIRC, Dresden, in super-slow-motion.  The angel got a blue sword when the son or grandson of one of the pilots that participated in the fire-bombing of Dresden participated in a reconciliation ceremony with people in Dresden.  Forgiveness is a weapon.

_Indestructible_ (2020) by Blake Healy
https://www.amazon.com/Indestructible-Fight-Spiritual-Battles-Winning/dp/1629996777/

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Did the people of Sodom have a debt against anyone?
Were the debts of those who died in Sodom's destruction ever paid off, and if so, when?
Have you ever had a debt against anyone?

Matthew 6:12 (NIV)
And forgive us our debts,
as we also have forgiven our debtors.

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It appears there won't be an answer forthcoming on my Jonah question.
Ignoring elephants in the room doesn't make them disappear.
"the END of the STORY"
is where?  (a Daniel verse that says the Messiah's kingdom keeps ever-expanding?  a Revelation verse that says the gates of the New Jerusalem never shut and are always open?)

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Do you think some _won't_ "stand before the judgment seat of The Messiah"?
And some _won't_ give "an account of himself to God"?
And regarding the claim that "every knee shall bow to" Master YHWH, some _won't_ bow their knees?

Romans 14 (Aramaic Bible in Plain English), biblehub
9 For this purpose also The Messiah died and lived and arose,
that he would be THE LORD JEHOVAH to the dead and to the living.
10 But why are you judging your brother,
or why do you even despise your brother?
For all of us are going to stand before the judgment seat of The Messiah,
11 According to what is written:
"As I live, says THE LORD JEHOVAH,
every knee shall bow to me
and to me every tongue shall swear."
12 So then, every person among us gives an account of himself to God.

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"God uses Satan to achieve his purposes. Satan is always on God's leash. All that happens in history is ultimately according to the will of God, even the dark work of Satan fulfills Gods plan. E.g. Jesus Christ on the cross. The world, the flesh and the devil wanted Christ crucified. This could only be achieved because it was Gods will. THe devil meant it for evil, God meant it for good.
It is true that the Jews and Romans had Jesus Crucified. It is also true that the ultimate cause of the Crucifixion was the will of God, planned before the earth was created"

Everything that happens-- including mass murders-- God allows to happen.
Reference that God wanted the Crucifixion to occur?
Was the Crucifixion something the devil wanted to occur?

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"do you personally lean toward Universal Reconciliation?"
Without having studied matters, I accepted the never-ending-torture view.
I studied things and became an annihilationist.
I studied things again, and became a universalist. 

"what is your position on the Deity of Christ and the Trinity doctrine?"
There are 3 in the godhead: Jesus the Messiah, God the Father, and the Spirit of Holiness.
Jesus was somehow both fully God, and fully man.

"in regard to Romans 5:12, I would point to chapters 3 and 4 of Romans where Paul clearly and unequivocally states that NO ONE is justified (reconciled) with God without FAITH. Without faith it is impossible to please God (Heb 11:6). That eliminates a whole lot of people from justification and reconciliation"
Before all is said and done, _everybody_ will have placed their trust in God.
Do you agree with this?:

1 Timothy 4:10 (NIV)
That is why we labor and strive,
because we have put our hope in the living God,
who is the Savior of all people,
and especially of those who believe.

"Both Galatians and Ephesians make that same point. And Jesus said that those who blaspheme the Spirit 'NEVER have forgiveness, neither in this life, nor in the one to come'"
How about in an age after that?  (the Greek 'ainon' means world/age).

Mark 3 (Young's Literal), my bracket
28 'Verily I say to you, that
all the sins shall be forgiven to the sons of men,
and evil speakings with which they might speak evil,
29 but whoever may speak evil in regard to the Holy Spirit
hath not forgiveness-- to the age,
but is in danger of age-[en]during judgment;'
30 because they said, 'He hath an unclean spirit.'

"Judas Iscariot died without forgiveness, and therefore will spend eternity outside the presence of God in everlasting punishment"
So when Jesus said, 'Father, forgive them,' Jesus wasn't talking about Judas? 
And to this day, Jesus has unforgiveness toward Judas?

"Satan and his angels will never be forgiven"
Mike Parsons has released love to and forgiven 3 dark angels, including one called Destiny Robber, and now those 3 are serving God. Destiny Robber became Destiny Restorer.

"and they will likewise spend eternity in the Lake of Fire (Rev 20:10). That is NOT a physical place, but rather a place of eternal punishment in the unseen realm"

Revelation 20:10 (Young's Literal)
and the Devil, who is leading them astray, was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone, where [are] the beast and the false prophet, and they shall be tormented day and night-- to the ages of the ages.

From where do you derive "eternity"?

"Jesus at the judgment sent the wicked into that same place where Satan and his angels were cast (see Matt 25:31-46). There is no escape from that place of eternal punishment"
Did anyone that Jesus preached to in Sheol escape from Sheol?

1 Peter 3 (Aramaic Bible in Plain English), biblehub
18 Because The Messiah also died once for the sake of our sins,
The Righteous One in the place of sinners,
to bring you to God,
and he died in body and lived in his Spirit.
19 And he preached to those souls who were held in Sheol,
20 These who from the first were not convinced in the days of Noah when the long-suffering of God commanded that there would be an ark, upon the hope of their repentance, and only eight souls entered it and were kept alive by water.

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"S.S. Singh isn't a teacher"
How much of his material have you read?  His insightful observations about the spiritual world using nature as a springboard are amazing.
These days, in the afterlife does anybody suffer any bad consequences for their misdeeds in this life?  Are there currently hellish realms with new arrivals daily?

"Jesus changed our fundamental relationship with God"
True.  And our understanding of God's nature.

R.H. Charles: bring eschatology into harmony w/ Xtian theology of God
https://tentmaker.org/forum/judgement-and-punishment/r-h-charles-bring-eschatology-into-harmony-w-xtian-theology-of-god/

"if we preach that God sends us to hell, a kind of spiritual death invades our lives and witness.
It is employing fear as a motivation to love God, it is misrepresenting his nature and intentions"
Sounds right.

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"Scripture according to you"
The Scripture is the OT books listed in the LXX and Pecrapta OT, and the NT books.
"Christ himself quoted Scripture as an ultimate authority"
Remind me, if you would:  where?

Matthew 5 (Aramaic Bible in Plain English), biblehub
27 You have heard that it was spoken,
'You shall not commit adultery.'
28 But I am saying to you,
everyone who looks at a woman so as to lust for her,
immediately commits adultery with her in his heart.

Luke 9 (Aramaic Bible in Plain English), my emphasis
34 And as he [Peter] said these things, there was a cloud that formed a tabernacle about them and they were afraid when they beheld Moses and Elijah who entered into the cloud.
35 And there was a voice from the cloud that said,
"This is my Son, The Beloved; **Hear him."**

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"God is the ultimate cause of ALL that comes to pass.... Every single thing that happens in the universe, happens according to the decree of God, for the manifestation of His glory, grace, justice, goodness and wisdom, righteousness and wrath"
Was God the ultimate cause of the Holocaust?

Genesis 50:20 (Young's Literal)
As for you, ye devised against me evil--
God devised it for good,
in order to do as at this day,
to keep alive a numerous people;

Romans 8:28 (Young's Literal)
And we have known that
to those loving God all things do work together for good,
to those who are called according to purpose;

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Was God the ultimate cause of the:
Fall of Adam and Eve?
destruction of Jerusalem?

Matthew 23 (Aramaic Bible in Plain English)
37Jerusalem, Jerusalem, you that murdered The Prophets and stoned those who were sent to it! How many times have I desired to gather your children, as a hen gathers her chicks under her wings, and you were not willing! 38 Behold, your house is left to you desolate!

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Do you think God said Leviticus 21:9?  It sounds to me more like a threat a priest would concoct to try to keep his daughter in line.  Do you believe that this punishment came from the mind of a God of love?:

Leviticus 21:9 (NIV)
"'If a priest's daughter defiles herself by becoming a prostitute,
she disgraces her father;
she must be burned in the fire.

Jeremiah 19:5 (NIV)
They have built the high places of Baal
to burn their children in the fire as offerings to Baal--
something I did not command or mention,
nor did it enter my mind.

someone:
"It is quite possible that words are attributed to god YHVH that he didn't actually say. There is a strong suggestion that he said that scribes had indeed lied in the writing of the old testament.
In regards to burning to death as a punishment for law breaking: Leviticus 20:14, 21:9, Genesis 38:24, Joshua 7:15 - 24-25. I can provide you with at least another half a dozen from the top of my head and I'm pretty sure there are many more.  Once again I ask you, are these the punishments of a god of love?"

"Malachi 3:2-3.
How could i have been so blind??
The fire is truly a purification process. And surely, these verses also confirm my suspicions that the Levitical law was added to by the Levites. Why else would Malachi directly refer to the sons of Levi in these verses?!"

Eternal means without a beginning or an end which cannot apply to us, only to God.

CHB

Quote from: CHB on October 10, 2020, 09:29:29 PM
Eternal means without a beginning or an end which cannot apply to us, only to God.

If a creature began to exist, and went on to exist for an infinitely-long length of time, would you consider that creature "eternal"?

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Do you think God:
loved the foreigners residing amidst the Israelites?
wanted Israelites to love foreigners?

Deuteronomy 10 (Berean Study Bible), biblehub
16 Circumcise your hearts, therefore,
and stiffen your necks no more.
17 For the LORD your God is God of gods and Lord of lords,
the great, mighty, and awesome God,
showing no partiality
and accepting no bribe.
18 He executes justice for the fatherless and widow,
and He loves the foreigner,
giving him food and clothing.
19 So you also must love the foreigner,
since you yourselves were foreigners in the land of Egypt.

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I believe that there currently are hellish afterlife realms with new arrivals daily.  There currently are in the afterlife numerous individuals suffering bad consequences for their misdeeds in this life.  The biblical principle of reaping what one sows, more than one sows, later than one sows, is in operation.  Many who created hellish situations for others while alive on earth are in hellish realms in the afterlife.

Is God the painful, purifying fire some experience?
https://tentmaker.org/forum/index.php?topic=15013.msg215832#msg215832

Bryan Melvin's tour of a hellish realm
https://tentmaker.org/forum/judgement-and-punishment/those-in-sheol-getting-what-they-dished-out-to-others/

_Clinically Dead: I've Seen Heaven and Hell_ (2012) by Ian McCormack with Jenny Sharkey
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1492319341/
https://youtu.be/Yg4188Ii-fg

Philip Mantofa's visit to a valley of torture/death
https://tentmaker.org/forum/judgement-and-punishment/gehenna-in-church/msg211546/#msg211546

Robin Main and Mike Parsons preached in hellish realms
https://tentmaker.org/forum/judgement-and-punishment/r-h-charles-bring-eschatology-into-harmony-w-xtian-theology-of-god/msg217151/#msg217151

Many don't heed preaching in this life.  But eventually, everybody that didn't heed preaching in this life will heed preaching in the afterlife.
Many didn't listen to Noah's preaching, wound up in Sheol, and then were preached to by Jesus.

"They are delusional.  Hell is an unbiblical myth"
Is a Sheol in which some suffer torment a myth?

Luke 16:23 (Aramaic Bible in Plain English), biblehub
?And suffering in Sheol, he lifted up his eyes from afar off
and he saw Abraham, and Lazar in his bosom.?

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Meaning of "God's Will"?
Mike Parsons says he talks a lot less these days about 'free will,' and a lot more about choices.  People are in various situations, and in those situations make various choices.

"God makes all choices"
Reference?
I strongly doubt God makes choices that are evil.  I imagine that concerning every good choice, God had a large role in that good choice being made. 
God knows all that could possibly be known, including the beginning and end everything in between.

I don't see "God makes all choices" here:
Ephesians 1:11 (NIV)
In him we were also chosen,
having been predestined according to
the plan of him who works out everything
in conformity with the purpose of his will,

Nor do I see "God makes all choices" here:
1 Corinthians 1 (Aramaic Bible in Plain English), biblehub
22 Because the Jews ask for signs
and the Aramaeans seek philosophy.
23 But we preach The Messiah as crucified,
a scandal to the Judeans
and madness to the Aramaeans.
24 But to those who are called, Jews and Aramaeans,
The Messiah is the power of God
and the wisdom of God.
25 Because the madness of God is wiser than humans
and the weakness of God is stronger than humans.
26 For you see also your calling my brethren, that
not many among you are wise in the flesh,
neither are many among you mighty,
neither are many among you children of a great family line.
27 For God has chosen the foolish of the world
to shame the wise,
and he has chosen the weak of the world
to shame the mighty.
28 And he has chosen those of low descent in the world
and the rejects and those who are nothing,
to nullify those who are,
29 That no one will boast before him.

I fail to notice "God makes all choices" here:
Romans 8:28 (Young's Literal)
And we have known that
to those loving God all things do work together for good,
to those who are called according to purpose;

Did God make:
Adam and Eve's choice to eat of the forbidden tree?
the devil's choice to rebel against God?
numerous angels' choice to join the devil in rebelling against God?

"If God chooses the weak, stupid and the ignoble things of the world then doesn't He choose the strong, smart, noble and powerful things also?"
No.  If I choose to purchase samples of all the purple produce at the grocery store, it doesn't follow that I choose to purchase samples of all the red produce.
Before all is said and done, all people-- whether weak, stupid, ignoble, strong, smart, noble, powerful, or otherwise-- will be willingly serving the Messiah.  Everything and everybody belongs to God.  God can rightfully lay claim to everything and everybody, and does so.

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"no one gets tormented in Sheol. It's a parable, not a literal place"
So Jesus' talking about a guy suffering torment in Sheol, and desiring just a drop of water for his tongue, had utterly zero basis in reality?

"You can believe what you want"
Just as does everybody.

"I have done my research. Historical, semantic, and precept upon precept"
Feel free to share.

"There is evidence in history that hell was there to keep people under control"
Even if that's true, the history of an idea's origination doesn't necessarily mean the idea is erroneous.

"God would no send loved one to a place called hell so that the good could watch them suffer"
In your view, would God allow loved ones to go to a Nazi concentration camp or Soviet gulag, where they'd suffer?

"I am sure there is material on tentmaker strongly suggestive that hell does not exist"
Material such as what?

"I have got a lot of good information off that site in the past"
"The only judgment that we have left is in this life"
So a vicious, sadistic unrepentant Nazi concentration camp guard who escapes from the crumbling Third Reich and takes up life in the U.S. as an auto assembly worker, and dies in his sleep at his house at the ripe old age of 89 surrounded by his loving kids and grandkids, received "judgment... in this life"?

"Adam and Eve sinned before they had eaten from the tree.  They sinned when the law came do this and don't do this"
Reference for "sinned before they had eaten from the tree"?

"God intended for Adam and Eve to sin"
Do you agree with this?:

James 1 (Aramaic Bible in Plain English), biblehub
13 A man should not say when he is tempted, "I am tempted by God", for God is not acquainted with evil and he does not tempt a man. 14 But each man is tempted from his own desire, and he lusts and he is seduced. 15 And this desire becomes pregnant and gives birth to sin, but sin, when it has matured, gives birth to death.

"God does not have the right to lay claim to everyone. If he did he would"
Do you agree with this?:

Hebrews 10 (Aramaic Bible in Plain English)
12 But This One offered one sacrifice for the sake of sins, and he sat down at the right side of God for eternity. 13 And he waits from then on until his enemies are put as a footstool under his feet,

Romans 11:36 (NIV)
For from him and through him and for him are all things.
To him be the glory forever! Amen.
"stop your scare mongering"

Do you think all of this advice is relevant these days?:
Matthew 10:28 (Young's Literal)
'And be not afraid of those killing the body,
and are not able to kill the soul,
but fear rather Him who is able
both soul and body to destroy in gehenna.

Do you think this is currently true?:
Hebrews 10 (NIV)
30 For we know him who said,
"It is mine to avenge; I will repay,"
and again,
"The Lord will judge his people."
31 It is a dreadful thing to fall into the hands of the living God.

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"your purple produce example. Didn't God manifest the day, the store, the produce and each moment of you walking through the store"
It sounds like you think God is solely responsible for everything that occurs.
"Didn't God give you the heartbeats and working hands to grasp the produce. Didn't God given you the eyes that could see the color and shape of the desired fruit?"
Yes, x 2.
"Was it really your idea to get that produce today?"
I like to think so.  I like to think I'm not merely a program running and acting precisely as I was programmed to run.

"Or was it God's plan long ago that today he would manifest you getting that produce?"
God knows what will occur in the future.
God has numerous plans, and backup plans upon backup plans.  When a human makes a less-than-ideal choice in a situation, God has a backup plan.  God is so brilliant and so powerful that he can allow humans and angels to make lousy choices and make a huge mess of things, and God can still derive fantastic results from it all.

"As for your Adam and Eve example, yes it was God's plan for them to sin"
God knew they'd sin, but God didn't want them to sin.  God didn't "plan for them to sin."  God knew they'd sin, and God had a backup plan for when they would sin.

"Because of that sin, we needed a savior, because we needed a savior, we came to know Jesus. God sent His own son to die for us all. We would never known Jesus nor God nor the Love He has for all of His creation without that first offense"
God takes humanity's and dark angels' lemons and makes lemonade.

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Do you think some currently in their afterlife are prodigals who haven't yet returned, coins that haven't yet been found, lost sheep that haven't yet been located?

Do you believe that everybody who dies is immediately upon death a returned prodigal, a located coin, a found sheep?

_The Spiritual Autobiography of Charles De Foucauld_ (2003), 213pp. by Jean-Francois Six (annotator, editor), Charles De Foucauld; on 101-2
https://www.amazon.com/Spiritual-Autobiography-Charles-Foucauld/dp/0932085776/
"I am the Good Shepherd, constantly in search of strayed sheep. _Love me_-- I have said those words to you a hundred times, because I love you so much, O my sheep, all of you. And _love one another_, because your Shepherd loved you so tenderly. Be grateful for my painstaking search for you, my goodness in forgiving you, and my joy when I find you again.

_"Help me in my work:  follow me._  Like me, working with me, each of you following the guidance of his spiritual director, make every effort to lead back as many strayed sheep as possible.  Share my feelings, my suffering at seeing my sheep get lost, my joy when I find them again.  Share my constancy, my hope, my indulgent search, never-ending belief in the possibility of their return, my indulgence in forgiving them.  Share my tenderness towards them when they do return-- far from reproaching and punishing them, I shower caresses upon them, taking them to my heart, as the father took the prodigal son.

"So then, hope always for the return of every soul living in the world to what is good; work for it always insofar as obedience allows, and be tender towards sinners who do return as you have seen me be to so many souls.  Putting everything in a word:  _Do for sinners what you would want me to do for you."_

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"Why would God manifest so many people over thousands of years, millions of days and billions of minutes and seconds, each containing a heartbeat for every person that lived, if He was going to burn and torture them?"
Torture doesn't serve any positive purpose.  God doesn't torture anybody.
God is a consuming fire, and that fire can be painful for some.  Also, that pain won't last for an infinite length of time.

Hebrews 12 (NIV)
28 Therefore, since we are receiving a kingdom that cannot be shaken, let us be thankful, and so worship God acceptably with reverence and awe,
29 for our "God is a consuming fire."

Is God the painful, purifying fire some experience?
https://tentmaker.org/forum/index.php?topic=15013.msg215832#msg215832

_66 Love Letters: A Conversation with God that Invites You into His Story_ (2009), 400pp. by Larry Crabb; on 264, 265 in the chapter on Ephesians
https://www.amazon.com/66-Love-Letters-Conversation-Invites/dp/0849946409/
And finally, expect opposition.  My enemy will stand against you at every turn.  You are no match for him.  But My Spirit is in you.  My enemy is no match for Him.  ....
* _Keep the helmet of salvation on your head_.  Keep hope alive.  No matter what happens, no matter how you fail, all shall be well and (as Julian of Norwich heard Me say) all manner of things shall be well.
* _Never stop reading my letters_.  My word is My Spirit's sword.  Use it to fight evil, first in you, then around you.
* _Learn to pray_.  Pray in My Spirit, on all occasions, with all kinds of prayers and requests, for everyone you know, especially those who suffer for my sake [6:1-18]."

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God doesn't fail.  It's humans and dark angels that fail.  God is very persistent, smart, and powerful, and ultimately gets what he wants.
God doesn't fail.  In contrast, people fail regularly.  When people do fail, God has a new course of action that they can accept.  Sometimes following their failure, they do accept God's new, preferred course of action, but often they don't.

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What is the position of 'Israel Only' on the ultimate extent of the realm of the Messiah?  (merely over the land of Israel, and no further?)

_The Messiah:  An Aramaic Interpretation: The Messianic Exegesis of the Targum_ by Samson H. Levey (1974), 180pp.  On XIX:
The following is our delineation of Messianism as differentiated from eschatology.

Messianism is the predication of a future golden age in which the central figure is a king primarily of Davidic lineage appointed by God.  In the period under consideration^8 [8: Roughly from the second century B.C.E. to the 9th century C.E. ....] it was believed that during the time of the Messiah the Hebrew people will be vindicated, its wrongs righted, the wicked purged from its midst, and its rightful place in the world secured.  The Messiah will pronounce doom upon the enemies of Israel, will mete out reward and punishment in truth and in justice, and will serve as an ideal King ruling the entire world.  The Messiah may not always be the active agent in these future events, but his personality must always be present at least as the symbol of the glorious age which will be ushered in.

The eschatological is not as limited as the Messianic.  It optimistically envisages a salutary outcome of history, brought about by God himself, who will dispense reward and punishment here and/or hereafter. Included in it are various ideas that are sometimes heterogeneous without definite plan or system.  The Jewish version usually encompasses the ingathering of the exiles and their return to Palestine, the destruction of the armies of the archenemies of Israel, purification of the land from defilement, the restoration of the pristine splendor of the temple, divine protection for Jerusalem and its inhabitants, subjugation of the nations to God and/or Israel, material prosperity, and peace.  Attached to these may also be the doctrine of the resurrection of the dead.  All this, without the involvement of the definite personality of Davidic lineage which marks the Messianic hope.

Interwoven into the Messianic picture may be any or all of the eschatological elements, sometimes also some of the characteristics of the apocalyptic, but the distinguishing feature which marks it as such is the figure of the Messiah himself.

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An angry Peter, not God, not the Holy Spirit, killed Ananias and Saphira.  Just as in the garden when Jesus was betrayed, an angry Peter cut a guy's ear off, and an angry Peter cursed a guy.

Acts 8 (Aramaic Bible in Plain English), biblehub
18 And when Simon saw that by laying on of the hands of the Apostles The Spirit of Holiness was given, he brought silver to them, 19 As he said, "Give me also this authority that he on whomever I place a hand will receive The Spirit of Holiness."
20 Shimeon Kaypha [Simon Peter] said to him, "Your silver will go with you to destruction, because you thought that the gift of God is acquired by the possessions of the world." 21 "You have no part or allotment in this faith, because your heart is not upright before God. 22 But turn from this your evil and request from God that perhaps the treachery of your heart may be forgiven you. 23 For I see that you are in the wrath of bitterness and in a knot of evil."
24 Simon answered, and he said, "Ask God for my sake, that none of these things which you have said may come upon me."

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Yes, many (including Judas) were expecting a different Messiah than what Jesus was.  Given the prophecy in Daniel re: when the Messiah would appear, if Jesus wasn't the Messiah, then there wasn't and won't ever be a Messiah.

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"Sodom was a threat to the Apple of His eye-- God protects His chosen"
Reference that Sodom was "a threat to the Apple of His eye.... His chosen"? 
(as a reminder, Jacob hadn't yet been born at the time Sodom got destroyed)

"God rescued Lot"
OK.
Do you believe Lot was part of God's "chosen"?
Do you believe Lot's descendants were part of God's "chosen"?

At one point, via the preaching of Jonah, God rescued Ninevah from the bad consequences of their bad actions.  Do you think those Ninevites that repented at Jonah's preaching were part of God's "chosen"?

"It doesn't matter what I think.  We are discussing the bible"
Should you decline to share your views on the Bible, I can't dialogue with you about your views on the Bible.

"if Jesus said he would come back within his generation would you believe him?"
I believe that "Jesus said he would come back within his generation," and that he did so.
Do you believe Jesus:
existed?
died?
was resurrected?

Do you think a creator God created the universe and humanity, including you?

Quote from: DavidFord on October 11, 2020, 01:27:32 AM

Quote from: CHB on October 10, 2020, 09:29:29 PM
Eternal means without a beginning or an end which cannot apply to us, only to God.

If a creature began to exist, and went on to exist for an infinitely-long length of time, would you consider that creature "eternal"?

No, I would consider them to be "immortal" not "eternal", that is how I see the difference

:2c:

"The God of Israel only loved his children. Duet 7:6, Amos 3:2"
Do you think Jesus only loved biological descendants of Jacob?

"The Jews were commanded by God to divorce their foreign wives and send away their children when they returned from Babylonian captivity.  Ezra 9:2,10:2-3"
Reference that they were commanded by God to do that?
Boaz married the Moabite Ruth. Was that immoral?

Matthew 19 (Aramaic Bible in Plain English), biblehub
3 And the Pharisees came to him and they were testing him, and they were saying, "Is it legal for a man to divorce his wife for any cause?"
4 But he answered and said to them,
"Have you not read that he who made from the beginning, made them male and female?" 5 And he said, "Therefore a man shall leave his father and his mother and shall cleave to his wife and the two of them shall be one flesh." 6 "Therefore they were not two, but one flesh. The things therefore that God has united let not a man separate."
7 They were saying to him, "Why therefore did Moses command to give a writing of divorce and to send her away?"
8 He said to them,
"Moses, confronting the callousness of your heart, let you divorce your wives, but from the beginning it was not so." 9 But I say to you, "Whoever divorces his wife apart from adultery and will take another, commits adultery, and whoever will take her who is divorced commits adultery."

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"that is what the Bible says, explicitly"
Did Jesus love the Samaritan leper that Jesus healed, and that returned to thank Jesus?

Luke 17 (Aramaic Bible in Plain English), biblehub
11 And it was that as Yeshua went to Jerusalem, he passed through among Samaritans to Galilee. 12 And when he approached to enter a certain village, ten men who were lepers met him, and they stood afar off. 13 And they lifted up their voices and they were saying, "Our Rabbi, Yeshua, have mercy on us!" 14 And when he saw them, he said to them, "Go show yourselves to the priests", and as they were going, they were purified. 15 But one of them, when he saw that he was purified, he returned to him and he was praising God with a loud voice. 16 And he fell on his face before the feet of Yeshua as he gave thanks to him, and this one was a Samaritan. 17 But Yeshua answered and he said, "Were there not ten who were purified? Where are the nine?" 18 "Have they neglected to come give glory to God, except this one who is from a foreign people?" 19 And he said to him, "Arise; go. Your faith has saved you."

"why do you not believe that Christ was the savior of his people that had the curse of the law imputed unto them?"
Curse of what law?

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"what laws did you break to impute sin?"
I can't cite a specific statute, but I do know that my conscience told me that I'd done wrong.  That whisper of my conscience was-- I believe-- God talking to me.  Have you ever had your conscience tell you that you'd done something wrong?

"Where are these laws that impute sin?"
Beats me.  I also don't know where the number 5 exists.

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Are these accurate statements, in your view?:
Dan has never sinned.
Dan has never done anything immoral.
Dan has done only loving or neutral actions toward others-- and never ever anything ugly toward another.
Dan has had only loving or neutral thoughts toward others-- and never ever thought anything ugly toward another.

Matthew 5:28 (NIV)
But I tell you that anyone who looks at a woman lustfully has already committed adultery with her in his heart.

Matthew 15 (Aramaic Bible in Plain English), biblehub
18 "Anything that proceeds from the mouth proceeds from the heart and it defiles the man." 19 "For from the heart proceed evil thoughts, adulteries, murders, fornications, thefts, lying testimonies, blasphemies." 20 "These things are those that defile a man, but if a man will eat after not washing his hands, he is not defiled."

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"did Jesus die for nations that were not in covenant with the god of Israel?"
I think Jesus' life, death, and resurrection benefited all of humanity, past present and future.

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"Romans 4:15 NASB
for the Law brings about wrath, but where there is no law, there also is no violation."
What is "the Law"?

Matthew 22 (Aramaic Bible in Plain English), biblehub
36 "Teacher, which commandment in The Written Law is the greatest?" 37 Yeshua said to him,
"You shall love THE LORD JEHOVAH your God from all your heart and from all your soul and from all your power and from all your mind." 38  "This is the great and the first commandment." 39 "And the second which is like it is, 'You shall love your neighbor as yourself.' 40 On these two commands depend all The Written Law and The Prophets."

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"Daniel 9:24 NASB
'Seventy weeks have been decreed for your people and your holy city, to finish the transgression, to make an end of sin, to make atonement for iniquity, to bring in everlasting righteousness, to seal up vision and prophecy and to anoint the most holy place."

What do you conclude from that verse?

"go study what the law is I don't want anything to do with it"
What exactly is it that you "don't want anything to do with"?

"That is what Adam fell for knowledge of good and evil in other words law. Not for me I couldn't keep it I would need a saviour to rescue me from my sin if I would be under a law"
I don't understand.  Are you saying you have no idea what's "evil"?  If somebody were to hit you over the head with a skateboard and take your wallet, would you consider that "evil"?

"actually love God in this manner. You can only do that by keeping the 10 commandments.  .... If you love God, you will keep the first four. And if you love your neighbor, you will keep the last six"
How does one demonstrate one's love for God?

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Matthew 25:40 (NIV) "The King will reply, 'Truly I tell you, whatever you did for one of the least of these brothers and sisters of mine, you did for me.'

Romans 14 (Berean Study Bible), https://biblehub.com/bsb/romans/14.htm
5 One person regards a certain day above the others,
while someone else considers every day alike.
Each one should be fully convinced in his own mind. 
6 He who observes a special day does so to the Lord;
he who eats does so to the Lord, for he gives thanks to God;
and he who abstains does so to the Lord and gives thanks to God.

1 John 4:20 (Berean Study Bible), https://biblehub.com/niv/1_john/4-20.htm
If anyone says, "I love God," but hates his brother, he is a liar.
For anyone who does not love his brother, whom he has seen,
cannot love God, whom he has not seen.

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'Deuterocanonical' books are in Bibles of Catholics, Eastern Orthodox, and in the OT Pes hitta.  The NT Pes hitta was the original version of the NT, and got translated into Greek.
In the table of contents on page 33 of the 1611 KJV, "The Bookes called Apocrypha" are listed:
https://archive.org/details/theholybibleareprintoftheoriginal1611edition18331911/page/n31/mode/2up

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"actually love God in this manner. You can only do that by keeping the 10 commandments. .... If you love God, you will keep the first four. And if you love your neighbor, you will keep the last six"
How does one demonstrate one's love for God?

Matthew 25:40 (NIV) "The King will reply, 'Truly I tell you, whatever you did for one of the least of these brothers and sisters of mine, you did for me.'

Romans 14 (Berean Study Bible), https://biblehub.com/bsb/romans/14.htm
5 One person regards a certain day above the others,
while someone else considers every day alike.
Each one should be fully convinced in his own mind.
6 He who observes a special day does so to the Lord;
he who eats does so to the Lord, for he gives thanks to God;
and he who abstains does so to the Lord and gives thanks to God.

1 John 4:20 (Berean Study Bible), https://biblehub.com/niv/1_john/4-20.htm
If anyone says, "I love God," but hates his brother, he is a liar.
For anyone who does not love his brother, whom he has seen,
cannot love God, whom he has not seen.

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Do you think it's critical that people 'keep the sabbath'?
If 'yes,' what does that involve?

https://biblescan.com/search.php?q=sabbath
John 7:23... Now if a boy can be circumcised on the Sabbath so that the law of Moses may not be broken, why are you angry with me for healing a man's whole body on....
Luke 13:14 But the synagogue leader was indignant.... because Jesus had healed on the Sabbath.... "There are six days for work. So come and be healed on those days....
Mark 2:27 Then Jesus declared, "The Sabbath was made for man, not man for the Sabbath.  ....
Matthew 12:5 .... Or haven't you read in the Law that the priests on Sabbath duty in the temple desecrate the Sabbath and yet are innocent? And haven't you read in the law of Moses that....

Leviticus 23:3 .... There are six days when you may work, but the seventh day is a day of sabbath rest, a day of sacred assembly. You are not to do any work....
Exodus 31:15 .... For six days work is to be done, but the seventh day is a day of sabbath rest, holy to the LORD. Whoever does any work on the Sabbath day is to....
Acts 18:4 .... Each Sabbath found Paul at the synagogue, trying to convince the Jews and Greeks alike.  ....
John 5:10 .... so the Jewish leaders said to the man who had been healed, "It is the Sabbath; the law forbids you to carry your mat."

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"Jesus clearly says not everyone will enter the kingdom of heaven... Matthew 7:21.... 25:30"
Jesus clearly says he'd draw all people to himself.

John 12:32 (NIV), https://biblehub.com/john/12-32.htm
And I, when I am lifted up from the earth, will draw all people to myself."

"All the disobedient will be cast into outer darkness"
To what end/purpose?  (torture, for the sadistic enjoyment of God?)

Proverbs 3:12 (NIV), https://biblehub.com/proverbs/3-12.htm
because the LORD disciplines those he loves,
as a father the son he delights in.

Proverbs 13:24, https://biblehub.com/proverbs/13-24.htm
Whoever spares the rod hates their children,
but the one who loves their children is careful to discipline them.

Hebrews 12:6, https://biblehub.com/hebrews/12-6.htm
because the Lord disciplines the one he loves,
and he chastens everyone he accepts as his son."

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"There 1050 commands I believe in the New Testament. All of the commandments of God are repeated. But mainly the commandments or royal law of God"
Do you agree with this?:

Galatians 5:14 (NIV), https://biblehub.com/galatians/5-14.htm
For the entire law is fulfilled in keeping this one command:
"Love your neighbor as yourself."

James 2:8, https://biblehub.com/james/2-8.htm
If you really keep the royal law found in Scripture,
"Love your neighbor as yourself,"
you are doing right.

Romans 13:9, https://biblehub.com/romans/13-9.htm
The commandments,
"You shall not commit adultery," "You shall not murder,"
"You shall not steal," "You shall not covet,"
and whatever other command there may be,
are summed up in this one command:
"Love your neighbor as yourself."

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"That's like asking to exclude God by not following the first 4"
By following the neighbor-based commandments of The 10 Commandments (i.e., commandments 5-10), one is loving God:  Jesus, who is God:  'whatever you did to the least of these, you did to Me.'

"James 2:10 For whoever keeps the whole law and yet stumbles at just one point is guilty of breaking all of it"
James was originally written in not Greek, but rather Aramaic.  There's something wrong with that rendition there.  If I break commandment 2, do you really believe I simultaneously broke commandments 7, 8, and 9?

Analysis of Pesh itta verse James 2:10
http://dukhrana.com
(Murdock) For he that shall keep the whole law,
and yet fail in one [precept],
is obnoxious to the whole law.

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"there is only one day blessed and sanctified by its creator that is the sabbath. So of you rebel and not pick the day he picked you don't get the blessing"
So, how do you typically break observance of Saturday?  (washing dishes on Saturday?  vacuuming on Saturday?)

"healing is permitted on the Sabbath"
What else is permitted on Saturday?  (rescuing a child in trouble?  rescuing an animal in trouble?  carrying one's mattress?)

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Do you disagree with any of this?:

_Breaking the Romans Code_ by Michael Wood (2011), 196pp.  On 155-161:
Puzzle 1 The first teaching in the body of the Sermon on the Mount:
_Unless you treat people better than the scribes and the Pharisees,
you cannot enter the Kingdom of Heaven_.  ....
Puzzle 2 The full body of the Sermon on the Mount:
_God is going to treat you based on how you treat others_.  ....
Puzzle 3 The warnings at the end of the Sermon on the Mount:
_Only those who actually follow Jesus' interpretation of the law will make it on Judgment Day_.  ....

Puzzle 5 The key to all of Jesus' teachings on salvation and judgment in the Gospel of Matthew (including the very key to the Sermon on the Mount): 
_Jesus didn't come to abolish the Law and the Prophets
because only the neighbor-based commands are the Law and the Prophets_.  ....
Puzzle 7 The key to Paul's letter(s) to the Romans:
_Only the neighbor-based commands count,
the Jobs of the Law count for nothing_.

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"Jesus responded by telling him to give up everything he had and become His follower. The young man could not do this 'works', because money was his god; he was guilty of idolatry"
Yes, probably "money was his god; he was guilty of idolatry."  That can be seen in his failure to follow the commandment to "love thy neighbour as thyself."

Matthew 19 (King James), https://biblehub.com/kjv/matthew/19.htm
16 And, behold, one came and said unto him, Good Master, what good thing shall I do, that I may have eternal life?
17 And he said unto him, Why callest thou me good? there is none good but one, that is, God: but if thou wilt enter into life, keep the commandments.
18 He saith unto him, Which?
Jesus said, Thou shalt do no murder, Thou shalt not commit adultery, Thou shalt not steal, Thou shalt not bear false witness, 19 Honour thy father and thy mother: and, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.
20 The young man saith unto him, All these things have I kept from my youth up: what lack I yet?
21 Jesus said unto him, If thou wilt be perfect, go and sell that thou hast, and give to the poor, and thou shalt have treasure in heaven: and come and follow me.
22 But when the young man heard that saying, he went away sorrowful: for he had great possessions.

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"Lev. 18:22; 20:13"
"Leviticus 18:22 You shall not lie with a male as with a woman; it is an abomination"
There's something wrong with that translation-- see below.
Are there any actions prohibited by Old Testament regulations you consider to _not_ be sins?
Do you: wear mixed-materials clothing? eat pork? do 0 work on the Sabbath (Friday night to Saturday night)?

Word Study -- Man Laying with a Memory -- by Chaim Bentorah - Jul 3, 2015
https://www.chaimbentorah.com/2015/07/word-study-man-laying-with-a-memory-אישׁ-ישׁכב-אתזכר/
Also in his book
_Treasures of the Deep: 365 Daily Hebrew Word Studies_ (2019)
https://www.amazon.com/Treasures-Deep-Daily-Hebrew-Studies/dp/1948794381/
What bothers me about this verse are the words: "If a man also lie with mankind." You have two very different words for man and mankind. Man is ish and mankind is zakar. Why did it not use the word ish for both man and mankind? Why did it not use the word adam which is the word for a physical man when ish is the word for both a physical and spiritual man? You really have to stretch things to get zakar to be rendered as mankind. You see zakar means remembrance or to memorialize. We get mankind from zakar because we often memorialize man both male and female. But the idea of zakar is a remembrance. What is being remembered in this verse? The word lie is shakab which means to crouch down, have sexual intercourse, copulate, or just sleep in a bed. Literally, the verse reads, if a man lie down with remembrance of laying with a woman the two commit an abomination.

That does not make much sense so we must resort to paraphrasing and the most obvious paraphrase is a man lying with a man like he would do with a woman. But when I think of my former friend and how he was storing up memories, thinking of what it would be like to sleep with these women he was admiring, if a man lie down with remembrance of laying with a woman the two commit an abomination, begins to make sense. The two being his memories and then laying with his wife and thinking of those women. That is not only an abomination to God it is an abomination and insult to his wife, God's precious gift to him. I think this verse is addressing por nography.

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"Rom. 1:26-28"
What is "the due penalty" referred to here?: "received in themselves the due penalty for their error"
Does God give to individuals who engage in homosexual activity any penalties beyond "the due penalty"?

Romans 1 (NIV), https://biblehub.com/niv/romans/1.htm
26 Because of this, God gave them over to shameful lusts. Even their women exchanged natural sexual relations for unnatural ones. 27 In the same way the men also abandoned natural relations with women and were inflamed with lust for one another. Men committed shameful acts with other men, and received in themselves the due penalty for their error.  28 Furthermore, just as they did not think it worthwhile to retain the knowledge of God, so God gave them over to a depraved mind, so that they do what ought not to be done. 29 They have become filled with every kind of wickedness, evil, greed and depravity. They are full of envy, murder, strife, deceit and malice. They are gossips, 30 slanderers, God-haters, insolent, arrogant and boastful; they invent ways of doing evil; they disobey their parents; 31 they have no understanding, no fidelity, no love, no mercy.

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"the sexually immoral, men who practice homosexuality, enslavers, liars, perjurers, and whatever else is contrary to sound doctrine 1 Timothy 1:10"
"Men who practice homosexuality" is a mistranslation.  It's better rendered with, 'men who rape pre-pubescent boys.'  See

_Pauline Paradoxes Decoded_ (2013) by Michael Wood (2013), 525pp., 275
https://www.amazon.com/Pauline-Paradoxes-Decoded-Michael-Wood/dp/1936565161/

"Here is the Greek"
from interlinear of 1 Cor 6:9
https://biblehub.com/interlinear/1_corinthians/6-9.htm
be deceived:  neither
4205 pornoi/ πόρνοι 
nor
1496 eidōlolatrai/ εἰδωλολάτραι/ idolaters
nor
3432 moichoi/ μοιχοὶ/ adulterers
nor
3120 malakoi/ μαλακοὶ
nor
733 arsenokoitai/ ἀρσενοκοῖται

In Roman times, rape of young boys was widely practiced.
What would you call men who rape young boys?  (homosexuals?  child molesters?)

Martin Luther translated the Greek as knabenschander i.e. rapists of young boys.  Did Luther err in his translation?

733. arsenokoites
https://biblehub.com/greek/733.htm
arsenokoites: a male engaging in same-gender sexual activity
Original Word: ἀρσενοκοίτης, ου, ὁ
Part of Speech: Noun, Masculine
Transliteration: arsenokoites
Phonetic Spelling: (ar-sen-ok-oy'-tace)
Definition: a sodomite
Usage: a male engaging in same-gender sexual activity; a sodomite, pederast.

pederast
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/pederast
a man who desires or engages in sexual activity with a boy

Do you think the Latin Vulgate mistranslated the Greek?
"The medieval Latin translation in the Vulgata Clementina was 'masculorum concubitoribus,' implying concubinage or pimping, not homosexuality specifically."

https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Arsenokoites
Arsenokoites is extremely rare in ancient Greek - so rare, there is no other extant use predating or contemporary to the Bible (a linguistic phenomenon known as a hapax legomenonWikipedia). Philo is often claimed to have used it around 35 CE.[4][5] Some believe the claim to be false.[6] ....
Translations
Over the centuries, there has also been a range of interpretation of how best to translate "arsenokoites" into the different European languages.

The medieval Latin translation in the Vulgata Clementina was "masculorum concubitoribus," implying concubinage or pimping, not homosexuality specifically. Martin Luther's 1545 German translation employs the word "Knabenschander" (from "Knaben", boys or young children), implying that "arsenokoites" was interpreted as pedophilia as early as the 16th century. A modern German translation speaks of "Kinder sexuell missbrauchen" ("to abuse children sexually"). The 1649 Giovanni Deodati Bible in Italian refers to "quelli che usano co' maschi". The term "maschi" can refer either to men or boys, but has a more general sense of boys, as in the traditional Italian expression "Auguri e figli maschi" (literally, "Congratulations and may you have many male children.")

"Jesus's own Law was to love God and secondly: our neighbour"
Does a man raping pre-pubescent boys violate Jesus' law via that activity?
Do 2 men engaging in consensual homosexual activity with each other violate Jesus' law via that activity?
Do 2 19-year-olds engaging in consensual pre-marital sexual activity with each other violate Jesus' law via that activity?

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"language has been changed to fit the narrative"
What is that "narrative"?
Do you consider "them that defile themselves with mankind" a good translation of "arsenokoitais"?

1 Timothy 1 (Webster Bible Translation), https://biblehub.com/wbt/1_timothy/1.htm
9 Knowing this, that the law is not made for a righteous man, but for the lawless and disobedient, for the ungodly and for sinners, for unholy and profane, for murderers of fathers, and murderers of mothers, for man-slayers, 10 For lewd persons, for them that defile themselves with mankind, for men-stealers, for liars, for perjured persons, and if there is any other thing that is contrary to sound doctrine, 11 According to the glorious gospel of the blessed God, which was committed to my trust.

1 Timothy 1 (KJV), https://biblehub.com/kjv/1_timothy/1.htm
10 For whoremongers, for them that defile themselves with mankind, for menstealers, for liars, for perjured persons, and if there be any other thing that is contrary to sound doctrine;

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Do you disagree with any of this characterization of 'the gospel'?:

_The Two Gospels:  Defeating the Nicene Creed_ by Daniel Yordy (2013), 217pp.,  on 53
https://www.amazon.com/Two-Gospels-Daniel-Yordy/dp/1497404045/
The gospel is that I am filled full with another person, and that person is God.
Every particle of me is found ONLY inside of God Himself in Person,
and God Himself in Person fills every particle of me with ALL that He is,
and God Himself in Person flows out from me at all times and in every direction.
I share heart with this God who fills me full
and that shared heart is the very throne of heaven, the Mercy Seat of God.
I am seated always upon that throne inside of God and God inside of me.
Together, He and I draw all into love upon that throne by a life laid down, by love poured out.

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Do you disagree with any of this?:

_Pauline Paradoxes Decoded_ (2013) by Michael Wood (2013), 525pp., on 477
https://www.amazon.com/Pauline-Paradoxes-Decoded-Michael-Wood/dp/1936565161/
Paul cited the Stoics as a Gentile example of _patriarchal faith_, and he cited Abraham as a Jewish example of _patriarchal faith_. Paul portrayed God's redemption as having three distinct periods:
Jews are saved by Patriarchal Faith-- This period lasted from Abraham until Moses.
Jews are saved by Torah observance-- This period lasted from Moses until Jesus.
Jews _and Gentiles_ are saved by Patriarchal Faith-- This period lasts from Jesus onward.

Because of Jesus' sacrifice on the cross, salvation is now by patriarchal faith for Jews _and Gentiles_ alike-- fulfilling God's promise to Abraham that he would be the father of _many nations_.

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"Paul. Jesus... blinded him. Paul was not given a choice he was told what to do and how to do it"
The blinding was temporary.  Paul could have chosen to continue persecuting Jesus.  Paul had a choice.
"Did Jesus ever use anyone?"
Jesus used things and loved people.

Reason @whiz666 - 13 April 2021
https://gab.com/whiz666/posts/106060259128991480
Sodom wasn't destroyed because of homosexuality. God accepted the 10 "righteous" men presented by Lot knowing of their incest and homosexual behavior.
God's decision to destroy Sodom came because they wanted to forcibly rape Lot's visitors which was evil on multiple levels.

I make no judgements on homosexuality because of interpretation problems first off, but also because it seems disingenuous to zero in on that activity while ignoring the many other activities that were serious sins and suddenly are not mentioned. Why aren't we still stoning adulterers to death?

I have told many homosexuals I met to confess who and what they are to Jesus, become Christians, and then, when they have the indwelling of the Holy Spirit, they can work it out with Him! I do know of one man that went straight, and several others that are married gay Christians. From what I can tell they have the Spirit and are working with Him. Who am I to interfere unless I see them stray?

Sometimes I think Paul's Jewish bias may have come into play in his writings, but perhaps it is the translations. I do notice when the Spirit instructs me to write to someone, it is often not Him telling me word for word what to say. And at other times, I am literally astounded by what I (He) writes, or says, through me!

"Sometimes I think Paul's Jewish bias may have come into play in his writings, but perhaps it is the translations"
It's the bad translations.  Paul distinguished between
a) violations of Jesus' command to love your neighbor (e.g., the rape of pre-pubescent boys, which was _very_ common in ancient Rome), and
b) violations of the Torah commandments (e.g., consensual sexual relations between adult males who weren't married to anybody).

See this Wood book, and his book on Paul and homosexuality:
_Pauline Paradoxes Decoded_ (2013) by Michael Wood (2013), 525pp.
https://www.amazon.com/Pauline-Paradoxes-Decoded-Michael-Wood/dp/1936565161/

"all sin is against GOD, not you"
'Whatever you did to the least of these, you did to Me.'
'Saul, why are you persecuting me?'
Unloving actions against people are unloving actions against God.  If everybody loved his neighbor as himself, humanity would be treating God much better than it is now.

"The sin you need to fight is your own, not the sin of others, unless they are taking actions against you"
Actions taken against defenseless children half a world away are actions against me.  All humans are part of 1 body; when 1 member of the body is injured, the body suffers.

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"where the sin and responsibility is"
Responsibility for what?
'love your neighbor as yourself'
If a female secretary commits adultery with a married colleague, that hurts the guy's wife (and the secretary, and the colleague).
If an unmarried man and an unmarried man engage in a sexual relationship, which 'neighbor' is injured?  (I grant that they hurt each other, perhaps unknowingly:  'receiving in themselves the due recompense for their perversion')

"Those sins are forgiven if we accept the Kingdom, which means to love Him and to love our neighbour"
Everybody's sins are forgiven.  Many people don't know that yet.

"how do those actions you describe accord with a love of God, who gave us the sacrament of marriage and told us to procreate?"
Are those who don't procreate (e.g., those who took vows of poverty, chastity, and obedience) sinning by not procreating?
Eating pork vs. not eating pork, and wearing mixed-materials clothing vs. not wearing mixed-materials clothing, has nothing to do with loving or not loving God, and nothing to do with loving or not loving one's neighbor.

I'm sure there is some love in some homosexual relationships.
I bet many homosexual 'couples' believe they are loving their neighbor via their involvement in the relationship, and are unaware of any 3rd parties that they're injuring.

"Jesus gave us a meta-analysis to Leviticus, which were His transcendent commands"
Do 2 unmarried males engaging in a long-term sexual relationship violate Jesus' command to 'love your neighbor as yourself'?

"the coming spiritual Kingdom"
Jesus' kingdom is here, and growing.  See Daniel, and 'the kingdom of Heaven/God is within you.'
"achieve only worldly pleasure is wrong"
I bet there's a lot more to most homosexual acts than merely a desire for pleasure.

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Do you believe God was responsible for this broad permission for husbands to divorce their wives?:

Deuteronomy 24 (NIV), https://biblehub.com/niv/deuteronomy/24.htm
1 If a man marries a woman who becomes displeasing to him because he finds something indecent about her, and he writes her a certificate of divorce, gives it to her and sends her from his house, 2 and if after she leaves his house she becomes the wife of another man, 3 and her second husband dislikes her and writes her a certificate of divorce, gives it to her and sends her from his house, or if he dies, 4 then her first husband, who divorced her, is not allowed to marry her again after she has been defiled. That would be detestable in the eyes of the LORD. Do not bring sin upon the land the Lord your God is giving you as an inheritance.

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"anything God says is right and just"
Do you believe 0 scribes tampered with the scriptures they were copying out?

Jeremiah 8:8 (NIV), https://biblehub.com/niv/jeremiah/8-8.htm
"'How can you say, "We are wise, for we have the law of the LORD,"
when actually the lying pen of the scribes has handled it falsely?

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"don't believe God is powerful enough to preserve His word?"
God is extremely powerful, and can do anything that's within his nature to do, and that's sensical.  E.g., God can't make a 'square triangle,' because a 'square triangle' is nonsensical.
Humans have recopied and recopied the scriptures over hundreds of years.  Some errors have crept in.  Per this passage, even some blatant tampering has occurred:

Jeremiah 8:8 (NIV), https://biblehub.com/niv/jeremiah/8-8.htm
"'How can you say, "We are wise, for we have the law of the LORD,"
when actually the lying pen of the scribes has handled it falsely?

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"God is powerful enough to.... my God is omnipotent!"
How old do you think the:  universe is?  earth is?
Do you agree with me that if God wanted to, God could have created the universe plants animals and humans in an instant?

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"why are we centered on prejudice against one group of people, one sin, while ignoring another sin, or group of people, when they BOTH fall under sexual immorality? Or even a 3rd?  Homosexuals
Adulterers/Adulteresses  Fornicators"
Adultery goes against Jesus' command to love your neighbor as yourself.
Engaging in adultery is worse than
a) 2 adult males engaging in consensual homosexual activity, and
b) two 17-year-olds engaging in consensual heterosexual activity prior to a marriage of either individual.

Neither a) nor b) go against the command to love your neighbor as yourself.

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"we will have bodies"

1 Corinthians 15 (Peshi tta Holy Bible)
https://biblehub.com/aramaic-plain-english/1_corinthians/15.htm
35 Someone among you will say,
"How do the dead rise?
With what body do they come??
36 Fool! The seed that you plant will not live unless it dies.
37 And the thing which you sow is not that body which is going to be,
for you sow a naked grain of wheat or barley or of other grain.
38 But God gives it a body just as he chooses
and to each one of the grains a body of its nature.
39But not every body is equal to another,
for there is the body of a man and another of an ox
and another of a bird and another of a fish.
40 And there is a Heavenly body and there is an Earthly body,
but there is one glory of the Heavenly and another of the Earthly.
41 And there is one glory of the sun
and another glory of the moon
and another glory of a star,
and one star is greater than another star in glory.

42 Thus also is the life for those who die.
It is sown with corruption,
it rises without corruption.
43 It is sown with disgrace,
it rises with glory;
it is sown in weakness,
it rises in power.
44 It is sown an animal body;
a spiritual body rises,
for there is an animal body,
and there is a spiritual body.
45 Thus also it is written:
?Adam the first man was a living soul;
the last Adam - The Life Giver Spirit.
46 But the first was not spiritual,
but the animal, and then the spiritual.
47 The first man was dust from the ground;
The second man, THE LORD JEHOVAH from Heaven.
48 Just as he who was a being of dust,
so also is that which is of the dust,
and just as he who is The Being from Heaven,
so also is the Heavenly.
49 And as we have worn the image of him who is from the dust,
so we shall wear the image of him who is from Heaven.

"not being given in marriage does not necessarily mean 'no sex', nor does it necessarily mean no children"
I'm unaware of any eye-witness accounts of sex or procreation in heaven.
Bryan Melvin has a scary account of his visit to hell, where people were tormented by demons in the _exact same ways_ as those people had mistreated others while on earth.

1 Cor 6:9 speaks of idolatrous temple prostitution in which patrons would gang rape anally pre-pubescent boys (and gang rape females) until their premature demise.

A witch named Elaine had been trying to kill the medical-type person Rebecca Brown, and Brown helped free Elaine from involvement in witchcraft.  Elaine recounts being raped by satan.
_He Came to Set the Captives Free_
https://www.amazon.com/He-Came-Set-Captives-Free/dp/0883683237/

Quote from: DavidFord on September 27, 2020, 03:24:07 AM
Who do you think "those souls... who... were not convinced in the days of Noah" are?
(Sons of God who had children with descendants of Adam?
offspring of: Sons of God and descendants of Adam?)

"NOT YOUR Messiah"
Was Jesus the Messiah to those in Sheol that he preached to, people who'd died in the Flood?

1 Peter 3 (Aramaic Bible in Plain English), biblehub
18 Because The Messiah also died once for the sake of our sins,
The Righteous One in the place of sinners,
to bring you to God,
and he died in body and lived in his Spirit.
19 And he preached to those souls who were held in Sheol,
20 These who from the first were not convinced in the days of Noah when the long-suffering of God commanded that there would be an ark, upon the hope of their repentance, and only eight souls entered it and were kept alive by water.

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When 1 Peter 4 says [v. 6]"The Good News was proclaimed also to the dead that they would be judged as children of men in the flesh," do you believe that speaks of angels?

The Good News was proclaimed also to the dead that they would be judged as children of men in the flesh and they would live in God by The Spirit.

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i believe they were members of worlds most evil generation but God gave em nother chance after death !..now, thts GOOD NEWS !

Quote from: darryl on April 15, 2021, 04:47:15 AMi believe they were members of worlds most evil generation but God gave em nother chance after death !..now, thts GOOD NEWS !

Indeed. 
Someone's description of 'the gospel':

The Gov @TheGov5
He was pierced for our transgressions, he was crushed for our iniquities; the punishment that brought us peace was upon him, and by his wounds we are healed (Isa. 53:5)
For even the Son of Man did not come to be served, but to serve, and give his life as a ransom for many (Mark 10:45)
God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him should not perish but have eternal life (John 3:16)
All the prophets testify about him that everyone who believes in him receives forgiveness of sins through his name (Acts 10:43)
Through Jesus the forgiveness of sins is proclaimed to you. Through him everyone who believes is justified from everything you could not be justified from by the Law of Moses (Acts 13:38-39)
He was delivered over to death for our sins and was raised to life for our justification (Rom. 4:25)
But God demonstrates his own love for us in this: while we were still sinners, Christ died for us (Rom. 5:8)

Christ died for our sins, according to the Scriptures ? he was buried. . . . The third day he rose again from the dead, according to the Scriptures . . . and he appeared (1 Cor. 15:3-6). Paul writes that this is the Gospel ?I preached to you, which you received and on which you have taken your stand. By this Gospel you are saved? (1 Cor. 15:1-2). In outlining it here, Paul asserts that ?what I received I passed on to you is of first importance? (1 Cor. 15:3)
God was in Christ, reconciling the world to himself, not counting men?s trespasses against them (2 Cor. 5:19)
God made him who knew no sin to be sin for us, that we might become the righteousness of God in him (2 Cor. 5:21)
Remember Jesus Christ, raised from the dead, descended from David: this is my Gospel (2 Tim. 2:8)
He gave himself for us to redeem us from all wickedness and to purify for himself a people that are his very own, eager to do what is good (Titus 2:14)
But when the goodness and loving kindness of God our Savior appeared, he saved us, not because of works done by us in righteousness, but according to his own mercy, by the washing of regeneration and renewal of the Holy Spirit, whom he poured out on us richly through Jesus Christ our Savior, so that being justified by his grace we might become heirs according to the hope of eternal life. (Titus 3:4-7)

Christ was sacrificed once to take away the sins of many people; and will appear a second time, not to bear sin, but to bring salvation to those who are waiting for him (Heb. 9:28)
He himself bore our sins in his body on the tree, so that we might die to sins and live for righteousness; by his wounds you have been healed (Peter 2:24)
Christ died for sins once for all, the righteous for the unrighteous, to bring you to God (1 Peter 3:18)
This is love: not that we loved God, but that he loved us and sent his Son as an atoning sacrifice for our sins (1 John 4:10)

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_The Jesus Secret_ by Michael Wood (2010), 95pp., on 70
https://www.amazon.com/Jesus-Secret-Michael-Wood/dp/1936565064/
Paul.... divided sins into three categories:
sins that harm the soul,
sins that harm the body,
and sins that don't harm anything.  ....
According to Paul,
the inequitable treatment of others harms the soul,
immorality harms the body,
and breaking the Works of the Law harms nothing.
That is Paul in a nutshell.

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"Jesus covered the Commandments with two laws: 'Love your God', which covers the 1st, 2nd, and 3rd and 'Love thy neighbour', which covers the 5th - 10th. The 4th being for Man"
I'd say, Jesus said loving your neighbor as yourself is equivalent to loving God.
?:  top command?  A: 'Love God.... The 2nd is like it: ....' is a bad translation.  It should be rendered, 'Love God.... the 2nd is equivalent to it:  love your neighbor as yourself.'

'Whatever you did to the least of these you did to Me.' 
'If you've seen me you've seen the Father.'
'Saul, Saul, why are you persecuting Me?'

Ancient Jews apparently included keeping the Sabbath as a commandment directed toward God.  When Jesus was asked which commandments were needed to be kept to have life, he mentioned 5 of the 6 neighbor-directed commands of the '10 Commandments'-- and mentioned none of the God-directed commands.

_Breaking the Romans Code_ by Michael Wood (2011), 196pp.  On 155-161:
Puzzle 1 The first teaching in the body of the Sermon on the Mount:
_Unless you treat people better than the scribes and the Pharisees,
you cannot enter the Kingdom of Heaven_.  ....
Puzzle 2 The full body of the Sermon on the Mount:
_God is going to treat you based on how you treat others_.  ....
Puzzle 3 The warnings at the end of the Sermon on the Mount:
_Only those who actually follow Jesus' interpretation of the law will make it on Judgment Day_.  ....

Puzzle 5 The key to all of Jesus' teachings on salvation and judgment in the Gospel of Matthew (including the very key to the Sermon on the Mount):
_Jesus didn't come to abolish the Law and the Prophets
because only the neighbor-based commands are the Law and the Prophets_.  ....
Puzzle 7 The key to Paul's letter(s) to the Romans:
_Only the neighbor-based commands count,
the Jobs of the Law count for nothing_.

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"1 Corinthians 6:9-10 KJV ? Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind, Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God."

That translation stinks.  It says things in English that the underlying Greek doesn't say.
E.g., "nor effeminate" is a bad translation.  If it was accurate, most women would be in trouble.  Do you really believe the effeminate won't "inherit the kingdom of God"?
Do you know what "abusers of themselves with mankind" refers to?

"Raping young boys is a sin"
Agreed.
"Homosexuality is a sin"
Agreed.  An adult male that that engages in informed consent consensual sexual activity with another adult male engages in a sin that harms his own body.
Stealing from others is a worse sin, because with stealing, one harms others.
Harming others is worse than harming one's self.

"Man raping a boy= sin"
Agreed.
"Man laying consensually with another man=sin"
Agreed.

"God has declared sodomy an abomination and has stated that it is unnatural"
Reference?

"I wonder, if I had posted the Scripture that declares women are to wear modest apparel would you have responded with, 'are you saying that strippers arent Christians?'"
I dunno.  How about you post the Scripture, and we'll see how I respond.

"If the picture had stated you cant be an adulterous christian, would you have responded with, 'are you saying that (insert pastor who cheats on his wife) isnt a Christian?'"
No.  Also, engaging in adultery harms the spouse of the adulterer.  Adultery is a worse sin than 2 adult males engaging in informed consent consensual sexual activity.

"You stated 1 Corinthians was rebuking temple prostitution. Are you suggesting that prostitution elsewhere was acceptable?"
There are different varieties of sin, with some sins being worse than others.  Thievery and adultery harm others.  Prostitution involving 2 adults who aren't under any coercion is not as bad a sin as thievery.

"this Scripture condemns other acts other than sodomy such as lying. So are you suggesting that he was only rebuking lying at church?"
Which word(s) in the passage refer to lying?
Where in the passage do you see a reference to sodomy?

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"In Mark 12, Jesus tells us to love God with all our heart, and to love our neighbor as ourself"

Mark 12 (Peshi tta Holy Bible), edits to quotation marks
https://biblehub.com/aramaic-plain-english/mark/12.htm
28 One of the Scribes approached him and he heard them debating and he saw that he had answered them beautifully and he asked him, "Which is the first commandment of all?"
29 Yeshua said to him, "The first of all the commandments: 'Hear Israel, THE LORD JEHOVAH your God, THE LORD JEHOVAH, he is One.  30 And you shall love THE LORD JEHOVAH your God with your whole heart and with your entire soul and with your entire mind and with all your power.' This is the first commandment 31 And the second is like it: 'You shall love your neighbor as yourself.' There is no other commandment greater than these."
32 And that scribe said to him, "Excellent, Rabbi! You have spoken the truth, for he is One, and there is not another outside of him. 33 And for a man to love him with all the heart and with the entire mind and with all the soul and with all the strength, and to love his neighbor as himself, is more than all burnt offerings and sacrifices." 34 But Yeshua, seeing that he had answered wisely, answered and said to him, "You are not far from the Kingdom of God." And no man again dared to question him.

"If you love God with all your heart, you will automatically keep the first four"
Jesus and his students didn't 'keep the Sabbath':  Jesus healed on Saturday, and told a guy he'd healed to carry his mat on Saturday.  Jesus' students plucked and ate grain on Saturday.

"if you love your neighbor, that sums up the second six"
Yes, 'love your neighbor' sums up the last 6 of the 10 Commandments.
In Mt, when Jesus was asked which commandments were needed to inherit the world/age of life, Jesus mentioned 5 of those 6-- and none of the first 4.

"This is in answer to the question, 'which is the greatest commandment of all?' Jesus very cleverly gives equal" weight "to all by addressing how they relate to our heart"
Jesus made loving one's neighbor equivalent to loving God.  If one loves his neighbor, one loves God.

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"Jesus is seen keeping Sabbath in scripture.... he went to the synagogue on the Sabbath day as was his custom.... Paul kept Sabbath (Acts 13:14)"
If I attend a church service on Saturday, does that mean I 'kept the Sabbath'?

"We are supposed to refrain from worldly work (earning wages, etc), and things that take us away from God that day"
If someone prays while doing a not-unloving activity, is that activity OK to do on Saturday?
If a single mother works at a restaurant serving diners to support herself and her children, is that "worldly work" that ought not to be done on Saturday?

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"idumeans...edomites"
What about them? (are you saying they are "JEWS"?)
Do you agree with me that:
God laid claim to those of Moab, Edom, and Philistia?
Yeshua the Meshikha's lineage includes Ruth the Moabite?

Psalm 108 (HCSB), biblehub
7 God has spoken in His sanctuary:
"I will triumph!
I will divide up Shechem.
I will apportion the Valley of Succoth.
8 Gilead is Mine, Manasseh is Mine,
and Ephraim is My helmet;
Judah is My scepter.
9 Moab is My washbasin;
I throw My sandal on Edom.
I shout in triumph over Philistia."

Ruth 4 (NIV)
.... "I will redeem it," he said.
5 Then Boaz said, "On the day you buy the land from Naomi, you also acquire Ruth the Moabite, the dead man's widow, in order to maintain the name of the dead with his property."
6 At this, the guardian-redeemer said, "Then I cannot redeem it because I might endanger my own estate. You redeem it yourself. I cannot do it."
7 (Now in earlier times in Israel, for the redemption and transfer of property to become final, one party took off his sandal and gave it to the other. This was the method of legalizing transactions in Israel.)
8 So the guardian-redeemer said to Boaz, "Buy it yourself." And he removed his sandal.
9 Then Boaz announced to the elders and all the people, "Today you are witnesses that I have bought from Naomi all the property of Elimelek, Kilion and Mahlon. 10 I have also acquired Ruth the Moabite, Mahlon's widow, as my wife, in order to maintain the name of the dead with his property, so that his name will not disappear from among his family or from his hometown. Today you are witnesses!"

Matthew 1 (Peshi tta Holy Bible)
https://biblehub.com/aramaic-plain-english/matthew/1.htm
1 The book of the genealogy of Yeshua The Messiah, The Son of David, The Son of Abraham.
2 Abraham begot Isaaq, Isaaq begot Jaqob, Jaqob begot Yehuda and his brothers. 3 Yehuda begot Pharez and Zarah from Tamar. Pharez begot Hezron, Hezron begot Aram. 4 Aram begot Aminadab, Aminadab begot Nahshon, Nahshon begot Salmon 5 Salmon begot Boaz from Rahab, Boaz begot Obayd from Ruth, Obayd begot Jesse. 6 Jesse begot David the King, David begot Solomon from the wife of Uriah.  ....

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"the Old Testament tells us God hates his enemies with a perfect hatred"
Reference?

"Jesus called Jews Satan's kids.... So-called Jews are people who call themselves Jews but reject Christ"
What are the names of 3 such prominent people?
What are individuals who consider themselves Jews who have accepted Christ? ('messianic Jews'?)
What would you call Samaritans who reject Christ?
Did Jesus hate Samaritans that rejected him?

Luke 9 (Peshi tta Holy Bible)
https://biblehub.com/aramaic-plain-english/luke/9.htm
50 Yeshua said to them, "You shall not forbid, for whoever is not against you is for you."
51 And it was that when the days of his ascent were fulfilled, he prepared himself to go to Jerusalem. 52 And he sent messengers before his presence and they went and entered a village of the Samaritans so as to prepare for him. 53 And they did not receive him because his person was determined to go to Jerusalem. 54 And when Yaqob and Yohannan his disciples saw it, they were saying to him, "Our Lord, do you want us to speak and fire will descend from Heaven, and will consume them as Elijah also did?" 55 And he turned and he rebuked them and he said, ?You do not know of which Spirit you are.? 56 "For The Son of Man has not come to destroy lives but to give life." And they went to other villages.

"you hate the Bible"
Not as far as I know.

"Jesus.... will throw them into the lake of fire for eternity. Talk about hate"
Nobody will roast for an infinite length of time. Not even Hitler, who is currently roasting.

"you know that shows hatred.... of whom he told parables of going corporately to Hell"
Does saying this to someone show hatred?:
'You are a child of the devil. But you can be adopted by God, and become a child of God.'
'You are headed to hell. But if you ask God for forgiveness of your unloving thoughts words and deeds, and regularly ask for God's help in loving others, you'll be on track to go to heaven.'

"Jesus didn't forgive the Jews who killed him. He hated them. He sent Rome to crush them in the worst tribulation the world has ever seen.... 70 AD proves the Jews weren't forgiven"
Regarding the destruction of Jerusalem in A.D. 70, and the severe troubles leading up to that destruction, do you think Jesus was:
happy to see those calamities occur?
sad about the calamities' occurrance?

Matthew 23 (Peshi tta Holy Bible)
https://biblehub.com/aramaic-plain-english/matthew/23.htm
36 Amen, I say to you, all these things will come upon this generation.  37 Jerusalem, Jerusalem, you that murdered The Prophets and stoned those who were sent to it! How many times have I desired to gather your children, as a hen gathers her chicks under her wings, and you were not willing! 38 Behold, your house is left to you desolate!

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@7Floydog "I'm not worried about Judgement day..... If a person is preaching the wrong Jesus....and a wrong message.....they aint gettin' in"
Even if she was extremely loving her entire life?
What if a person didn't even know anything about Jesus her entire life-- can that individual enter heaven?

"I let the dead die in their sins and I worry about my own soul...God wants me home"
Does God want your relatives-- all the members of humanity-- home?
Jesus preached to those in hell who'd died in Noah's Flood.  Does God want those who wind up in hell to come home?

"He wants me to worry about me.....not the dead"
The dead aren't dead, but rather in their afterlife.  E.g., Hitler is roasting in hell-- he's very much alive.  Numerous people are in hellish realms in the afterlife.  Some e.g. some Eastern Orthodox pray for those in hellish realms.

"I don't pray for the dead"
The 'dead' in hellish realms could benefit from prayer for them.

"Once your host dies, you are judged"
In the afterlife, people are self-judged-- they judge themselves.  Those into evil-doing on earth are uncomfortable in afterlife heavenly realms and feel greatly out-of-place there (but they're even more uncomfortable in hellish realms).

"being a 'nice' person matters not"
It matters a lot.  'Whatever you did to the least of these, you did to Me.'

"FEW there be that find it.... Jesus was clear"
That was said before Jesus did what he did for the immense benefit of all humanity.

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"I am not convinced that such a theology can be established with certainty based on the one scripture you have shared"
How about that one, plus Romans 5 and Ezekiel 16?
There's also the pro-universalist scripures mentioned here:
https://tentmaker.org/forum/judgement-and-punishment/universal-restoration-verses/

"If the plan at the end was to amaze everyone into falling down and confessing his name, why would he bother with waiting and sending Jesus?"
I don't know.  (I also don't understand the question.)
What are some possible motivations?

"Would their confession gain their salvation at that point?"
God has even accepted people that turned to Him after angels brought out chains to bring them away in.

"I'd hate for people to buy into this thinking and miss such a great salvation, figuring they can 'get in' at the end. And besides, life in Christ, with a full understanding of a pure, true grace, is amazing even here on earth. My heart is to share that grace so people can walk even now in the peace that passes understanding and righteousness that was paid for by God. Now is a good time for Good News"
Sounds good.

Everyone is in. Only a fraction of people, though, are yet aware of that, and have accepted God's forgiveness and welcoming. God isn't holding unforgiveness against anybody, and God welcomes all and has rejected nobody.
God gave angels and humans the ability to make choices, and both chose poorly and consequently made a huge mess.  Yet every human and every angel will eventually gladly choose to return to God.  God is that brilliant.

"I hope you are right"
Do you hope this is right?:

1 Timothy 4:10 (NIV), https://biblehub.com/1_timothy/4-10.htm
That is why we labor and strive,
because we have put our hope in the living God,
who is the Savior of all people,
and especially of those who believe.

1 Corinthians 15:22 (NIV), https://biblehub.com/1_corinthians/15-22.htm
For as in Adam all die,
so in Christ all will be made alive.

Romans 11:32 (NIV), https://biblehub.com/romans/11-32.htm
For God has bound everyone over to disobedience
so that he may have mercy on them all.

"I choose to use my time now to call others into Christ's love and grace"
Everybody is loved by God.  Only a portion of people, though, realize that and welcome that and return that love to God.

"If God chooses to take everyone in the end"
On God's end, God is reconciled to all humans because of what the godman Jesus did on behalf of humans.
On humans' end, some but far from all humans are reconciled to God.  Many people actively reject God.

"I don't really know"
Much of what humans think they know, they actually "don't really know."

"the scripture doesn't seem to clearly state what you are claiming in a way that makes me confident that it is truth"
Perhaps time and effort in examining the pro-never-ending torture, annihilation, and universalist scriptures is called for.

"I will study the chapters you give in greater detail tomorrow with an open mind"
Sounds great.

"we have access to the Father today"
Several people have done 2-way dialogue with God.  Several people report that God remarked that there's no never-ending torture.

"I love seeing the Gospel change lives and hearts, and there is no better time than the present"
Mike Parsons has released love, forgiveness, and hope to a dark angel, and it's now serving God and people. The dark angel 'Destiny Robber' became 'Destiny Restorer.'  Two other dark angels called Bondage and Disharmony also got restored, and became Freedom and Harmony, respectively.
See his book
https://www.amazon.com/Restoration-all-Things-continuing-journey/dp/1789632005/

Mike Parsons and Robin Main have preached in hellish realms.  Parsons preached several times to a large number of his deceased ancestors in anguish in the fire of God's love, and practically all of them turned their lives over to Jesus.

While seeing in the spiritual realm, Ana Mendez Ferrell went with Jesus to get her sister out of a hellish realm, and in this physical realm, her sister recovered from cancer (the sister subsequently came down again with & recovered from cancer several times, but finally ended up succumbing).
Another individual has with positive results preached to people that had been sent from hell to earth to cause trouble.  Many of those people never returned to hell and instead went to Jesus.

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"Jesus and the Father are one. And those who have not repented are not forgiven"
Jesus prayed, "Father, forgive them."  Has the Father forgiven any of those involved in crucifying Jesus? ('yes-- only those who repented'?)

Is it OK for me to have unforgiveness toward those who haven't repented of their mistreatment of me and those close to me?

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I personally consider everyone that's into rabbinic Judaism to be a Jew.
Before the advent of rabbinic Judaism almost 2,000 years ago, those into Judaism were Jews.
Everybody else _isn't_ a Jew.

The Moabite Ruth and the Jericho prostitute Rahab adopted Judaism, and thereby became Jews.  People that have converted to rabbinic Judaism are Jews.
Soros is an atheist, isn't into rabbinic Judaism, and isn't a Jew.

Do you detect any problems with my definition of what constitutes a "Jew"?

Luke 6 (NIV)
27 "But to you who are listening I say: Love your enemies, do good to those who hate you,
28 bless those who curse you, pray for those who mistreat you. ....
31 Do to others as you would have them do to you.
32 "If you love those who love you, what credit is that to you?
Even sinners love those who love them.
33 And if you do good to those who are good to you, what credit is that to you?
Even sinners do that. ....
35 But love your enemies, do good to them, and lend to them without expecting to get anything back. Then your reward will be great, and you will be children of the Most High, because he is kind to the ungrateful and wicked.
36 Be merciful, just as your Father is merciful.
37 .... Forgive, and you will be forgiven. 
38 ....with the measure you use, it will be measured to you."

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"I can't speak for Jesus"
If person X curses person Y, who did X speak for?  (solely X's self?  the devil?)

"that is written in the KJV Bible"
There's an entire Psalm that consists of cursing enemies.  Do you think it's OK to use that Psalm to speak curses over one's enemies?

"Do you cut the head off a venomous snake"
I might, if I knew what they look like.  All I've seen are harmless black snakes.

"or allow it to whisper into your woman's ear?"
I've never seen any snakes whispering in anybody's ear.

"Psalm 11:5 The Lord tests the righteous, but his soul hates the wicked"
Do you think it's OK for me to 'hate the wicked'?

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"God is Truth"
And every human is a sliver of God being expressed via an earth-suit of flesh and bones.  Every human's true nature is to live in truth and to be truthful.

Every person who has decided for Christ as of the moment of death,
and
every decision for Christ in the afterlife,
adds to the number of those in God's kingdom.

That # of people, and the strength of God's kingdom, is constantly increasing.

I love how Jesus said - All those in the tombs/graves will hear God?s voice and will come forth (from the graves/tombs) some into the resurrection of life (into THE millennium). And some into the resurrection of judgment (Jn.5:28-29). Which elsewhere He calls agelasting correction [kolasin aionion oR eonian correction - Mt.25:46].
    It really clarified things for me. And then I realized all three mentions of lake of fire are at huGe fiery events! First one seems, imo, to be manmade, go figure! Making Mt.13:30 - the gathering of the tares - to be Rev.16:13-16, the gathering to armageddon battle.
    And(!) this makes me now view the Lord?s long second advent to be a wider, longer version of his first so brief one. But with helpers serving, called reigning. For to do His works is surely(?) to reign..
   I also realized his first advent fulfilled the Spring holy days to a T. So..? Surely the Fall ones prophecy his 2nd advent - which to me is a proof of UR/CU:
   TRUMPETS (of Rev & his return) - 1Odays/1OOOyrs to,
DAY oF ATONEMENT (judgment ?day?) - 5days/5OOyrs to,
TABERNACLES (fieRy universal regenesis, how death dies) - Rev.21:3 - God will now tabernacle/tent/dwell with mankind.. Is.11:7 - The lion will eat straw like the ox, the bear will graze with the cow.

"long second advent to be a wider, longer version of his first so brief one.
But with helpers serving, called reigning"
Interesting perspective.

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_Can a Loving God Be Wrathful?: An Orthodox Christian Perspective_ (2008), 102pp., on 68
https://www.amazon.com/Can-Loving-God-Wrathful-Perspective/dp/1933654031/
Christ Dies on the Cross Not to Pacify the Father's Wrath but to Destroy Death
The good news of Christianity is rooted not in the wrath of God but in the love of God. Christ died on the cross not to appease or pacify the wrath of the Father against us,  but to abolish death, to overcome the power of sin, to make all things new and to demonstrate God's love for us even while we were yet sinners. This is why the rainbow surrounds the icon of the Pantocrator Christ in the Byzantine church dome.

Christ is our Savior. He is our peace. He is our life. He is the promise of better things to come. Never in the New Testament is God said to be reconciled to man; it is always man who is being reconciled to God (2 Cor. 5:18-19). In the Orthodox understanding of redemption, there is no idea of punishment (which comes from Calvin) or pacifying God's wrath (which comes from Anselm).

The great Easter (Paschal) hymn of the Orthodox Church does not say,
"Christ has risen from the dead, by his death _He has pacified the Father's wrath_."
It says rather,
"Christ has risen from the dead, by his death _He has destroyed death_ and to those in the tombs, he has bestowed life."

For those who are followers of Jesus Christ we are told:

Rom 5:10  For if, when we were enemies, we were reconciled to God by the death of his Son, much more, being reconciled, we shall be saved by his life. 

Joe  :Peace2:

Proverbs 3:11-26
Hebrews 12:5-11
The correction of mankind is literal.
The outcome is incredibly positive.
Love never fails.

Quote from: Ross on January 10, 2024, 01:14:24 AM
Proverbs 3:11-26
Hebrews 12:5-11
The correction of mankind is literal.
The outcome is incredibly positive.
Love never fails.

Amen

Quote from: DavidFord on December 30, 2023, 11:34:10 PM
"long second advent to be a wider, longer version of his first so brief one.
But with helpers serving, called reigning"
Interesting perspective.

================================
_Can a Loving God Be Wrathful?: An Orthodox Christian Perspective_ (2008), 102pp., on 68
https://www.amazon.com/Can-Loving-God-Wrathful-Perspective/dp/1933654031/
Christ Dies on the Cross Not to Pacify the Father's Wrath but to Destroy Death
The good news of Christianity is rooted not in the wrath of God but in the love of God. Christ died on the cross not to appease or pacify the wrath of the Father against us,  but to abolish death, to overcome the power of sin, to make all things new and to demonstrate God's love for us even while we were yet sinners. This is why the rainbow surrounds the icon of the Pantocrator Christ in the Byzantine church dome.

Christ is our Savior. He is our peace. He is our life. He is the promise of better things to come. Never in the New Testament is God said to be reconciled to man; it is always man who is being reconciled to God (2 Cor. 5:18-19). In the Orthodox understanding of redemption, there is no idea of punishment (which comes from Calvin) or pacifying God's wrath (which comes from Anselm).

The great Easter (Paschal) hymn of the Orthodox Church does not say,
"Christ has risen from the dead, by his death _He has pacified the Father's wrath_."
It says rather,
"Christ has risen from the dead, by his death _He has destroyed death_ and to those in the tombs, he has bestowed life."

    :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

Quote from: Ross on January 10, 2024, 01:14:24 AM
Proverbs 3:11-26
Hebrews 12:5-11
The correction of mankind is literal.
The outcome is incredibly positive.
Love never fails.

Amen!!

Quote from: joeteekay on December 31, 2023, 05:41:28 AM
For those who are followers of Jesus Christ we are told:

Rom 5:10  For if, when we were enemies, we were reconciled to God by the death of his Son, much more, being reconciled, we shall be saved by his life.

Joe  :Peace2:

Amen!!