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Galations 2:20 I am crucified with Christ: nevertheless I live; yet not I, but Christ liveth in me: and the life which I now live in the flesh I live by the faith of the Son of God, who loved me, and gave himself for me.

Here we see the first death, and the first resurrection.

2 Corinthians 514 For the love of Christ constraineth us; because we thus judge, that if one died for all, then were all dead:
15 And that he died for all, that they which live should not henceforth live unto themselves, but unto him which died for them, and rose again.
16 Wherefore henceforth know we no man after the flesh: yea, though we have known Christ after the flesh, yet now henceforth know we him no more.
17 Therefore if any man be in Christ, he is a new creature: old things are passed away; behold, all things are become new.

All things have become new for me. I am in the first resurrection with Christ.

1 Corinthians 5:18 And all things are of God, who hath reconciled us to himself by Jesus Christ, and hath given to us the ministry of reconciliation;
19 To wit, that God was in Christ, reconciling the world unto himself, not imputing their trespasses unto them; and hath committed unto us the word of reconciliation.
20 Now then we are ambassadors for Christ, as though God did beseech you by us: we pray you in Christ's stead, be ye reconciled to God.
21 For he hath made him to be sin for us, who knew no sin; that we might be made the righteousness of God in him.

This is the wrath of the Lamb. Anyone who makes the Wrath of the Lamb into Jesus killing people, is not paying attention to the rest of the gospel.

The wrath of the lamb is on any doctrine that does not bring glory to God. The killing of people in no way brings glory to God.

The lake of fire...........the second death shall not hurt those who have already crucified the flesh and are walking in newness of life. Just as there is a second death, there will also be a full reconciliation of all mankind.

The sword that comes out of the mouth of the Lamb is not to slay people. The sword that comes out the mouth of the Lamb is to slay the doctrines that lead to sin and death. The remnant. All of them. Every last power and authority that stands against Christ and his kingdom will be slain buy the sword that comes out of the mouth of the Lamb. We are not killing people. We are saving them.

God does not get glory in death. Christ is not the victor in death. Christ is only the victor when all things are reconciled to God.
http://www.concordant.org/expohtml/QuestionsAndAnswers/Q&AIndex1.html#9a

1 Corinthians 15:22 For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive.
23 But every man in his own order: Christ the firstfruits; afterward they that are Christ's at his coming.
24 Then cometh the end, when he shall have delivered up the kingdom to God, even the Father; when he shall have put down all rule and all authority and power.
25 For he must reign, till he hath put all enemies under his feet.
26 The last enemy that shall be destroyed is death.
27 For he hath put all things under his feet. But when he saith all things are put under him, it is manifest that he is excepted, which did put all things under him.
28 And when all things shall be subdued unto him, then shall the Son also himself be subject unto him that put all things under him, that God may be all in all.

If your doctrine has made you the friend of death it is time to allow the fire of cleansing to heal your broken heart.

Death is nobody's friend and surly does not bring glory to God and Christ. The only death that brings glory to God is that of the lamb that takes away the sin of the world. That death is the death that we Christians share in. The crucifying of the flesh, that the life of Christ might live in us.

Don't let the symbolism freak you out. God is not going to go on a killing spree. The gospel is still the same. Christ the savior of the world.

We have the same love that our Father has for the world. Universal Reconciliation as a doctrine changes the view of God's love to love for all mankind.......For God so loved the world! It will change your heart for all mankind as well.

Those that belong to Jesus hear his voice.

Who belongs to Jesus? All mankind. Not all are listening now. Many are deceived by doctrines that glorify death. They make the Lamb into a killer of men, rather then a life giving Spirit.

The broad path leads to destruction. The good news is that the destruction is for our good.

2 Corinthians 10:3 For though we walk in the flesh, we do not war after the flesh:
4 (For the weapons of our warfare are not carnal, but mighty through God to the pulling down of strong holds
5 Casting down imaginations, and every high thing that exalteth itself against the knowledge of God, and bringing into captivity every thought to the obedience of Christ;
6 And having in a readiness to revenge all disobedience, when your obedience is fulfilled.

The stronghold of annihilation will be cast down. It has been cast down in me. It stands strong in your mind. A doctrine that controls the thinking and quenches the love of God, and portrays the gospel as death will be slain by the word that comes from the mouth of the Lamb.

The question is in who and when? We have time right now. One day all power and authority will be annihilated when the kingdom is under His feet. Fear not.

It is a good thing. That is why it is called the Gospel!

[JulieTang84]

Oh Ed  :HeartThrob:

These have been the words of my heart ever since joining this forum I nearly burst into tears half way through.

Death is no longer in my spirit or soul. Love is light and light Is life.

:dsunny: May we never cease growing on and through Love of Father and his Christ.

Thank  you from the bottom of my heart.  :HeartThrob:

Love Julie  :girlheart:

[Seth]

Galations 2:20 I am crucified with Christ: nevertheless I live; yet not I, but Christ liveth in me: and the life which I now live in the flesh I live by the faith of the Son of God, who loved me, and gave himself for me.

Here we see the first death, and the first resurrection.

2 Corinthians 514 For the love of Christ constraineth us; because we thus judge, that if one died for all, then were all dead:
15 And that he died for all, that they which live should not henceforth live unto themselves, but unto him which died for them, and rose again.
16 Wherefore henceforth know we no man after the flesh: yea, though we have known Christ after the flesh, yet now henceforth know we him no more.
17 Therefore if any man be in Christ, he is a new creature: old things are passed away; behold, all things are become new.

All things have become new for me. I am in the first resurrection with Christ.

1 Corinthians 5:18 And all things are of God, who hath reconciled us to himself by Jesus Christ, and hath given to us the ministry of reconciliation;
19 To wit, that God was in Christ, reconciling the world unto himself, not imputing their trespasses unto them; and hath committed unto us the word of reconciliation.
20 Now then we are ambassadors for Christ, as though God did beseech you by us: we pray you in Christ's stead, be ye reconciled to God.
21 For he hath made him to be sin for us, who knew no sin; that we might be made the righteousness of God in him.

This is the wrath of the Lamb. Anyone who makes the Wrath of the Lamb into Jesus killing people, is not paying attention to the rest of the gospel.

The wrath of the lamb is on any doctrine that does not bring glory to God. The killing of people in no way brings glory to God.

The lake of fire...........the second death shall not hurt those who have already crucified the flesh and are walking in newness of life. Just as there is a second death, there will also be a full reconciliation of all mankind.

The sword that comes out of the mouth of the Lamb is not to slay people. The sword that comes out the mouth of the Lamb is to slay the doctrines that lead to sin and death. The remnant. All of them. Every last power and authority that stands against Christ and his kingdom will be slain buy the sword that comes out of the mouth of the Lamb. We are not killing people. We are saving them.

God does not get glory in death. Christ is not the victor in death. Christ is only the victor when all things are reconciled to God.
http://www.concordant.org/expohtml/QuestionsAndAnswers/Q&AIndex1.html#9a

1 Corinthians 15:22 For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive.
23 But every man in his own order: Christ the firstfruits; afterward they that are Christ's at his coming.
24 Then cometh the end, when he shall have delivered up the kingdom to God, even the Father; when he shall have put down all rule and all authority and power.
25 For he must reign, till he hath put all enemies under his feet.
26 The last enemy that shall be destroyed is death.
27 For he hath put all things under his feet. But when he saith all things are put under him, it is manifest that he is excepted, which did put all things under him.
28 And when all things shall be subdued unto him, then shall the Son also himself be subject unto him that put all things under him, that God may be all in all.

If your doctrine has made you the friend of death it is time to allow the fire of cleansing to heal your broken heart.

Death is nobody's friend and surly does not bring glory to God and Christ. The only death that brings glory to God is that of the lamb that takes away the sin of the world. That death is the death that we Christians share in. The crucifying of the flesh, that the life of Christ might live in us.

Don't let the symbolism freak you out. God is not going to go on a killing spree. The gospel is still the same. Christ the savior of the world.

We have the same love that our Father has for the world. Universal Reconciliation as a doctrine changes the view of God's love to love for all mankind.......For God so loved the world! It will change your heart for all mankind as well.

Those that belong to Jesus hear his voice.

Who belongs to Jesus? All mankind. Not all are listening now. Many are deceived by doctrines that glorify death. They make the Lamb into a killer of men, rather then a life giving Spirit.

The broad path leads to destruction. The good news is that the destruction is for our good.

2 Corinthians 10:3 For though we walk in the flesh, we do not war after the flesh:
4 (For the weapons of our warfare are not carnal, but mighty through God to the pulling down of strong holds
5 Casting down imaginations, and every high thing that exalteth itself against the knowledge of God, and bringing into captivity every thought to the obedience of Christ;
6 And having in a readiness to revenge all disobedience, when your obedience is fulfilled.

The stronghold of annihilation will be cast down. It has been cast down in me. It stands strong in your mind. A doctrine that controls the thinking and quenches the love of God, and portrays the gospel as death will be slain by the word that comes from the mouth of the Lamb.

The question is in who and when? We have time right now. One day all power and authority will be annihilated when the kingdom is under His feet. Fear not.

It is a good thing. That is why it is called the Gospel!

Awesome.

Hebrews 2
6"What is man, that You remember him?
Or the son of man, that You are concerned about him?
7 "You have made him [h]for a little while lower than the angels;
You have crowned him with glory and honor,
And have appointed him over the works of Your hands;
8 You have put all things in subjection under his feet."
For in subjecting all things to him, He left nothing that is not subject to him. But now we do not yet see all things subjected to him.

[rosered]

   destroying  the false  doctrines /devils Babylon ,  yes in this the  wrath of God is complete and finished DONE

When everyone will Know GODS TRUTH perfectly

Rev 15:1 Then I saw in heaven another marvelous event of great significance. Seven angels were holding the seven last plagues, which would bring God's wrath to completion.


Rev 16:17 Then the seventh angel poured out his bowl into the air. And a mighty shout came from the throne in the Temple, saying, "It is finished!"   

The meaning of Babel, Babylon (1) in the Bible
(From International Standard Bible Encyclopedia)

ba'-bel, bab'-i-lon (Topographical): Babylon was the Greek name of the city written in the cuneiform script of the Babylonians, bab-ili, which means in Semitic, "the gate of god." The Hebrews called the country, as well as the city, Babhel. This name they considered came from the' root, balal, "to confound" (Genesis 11:9).   CONFUSION MIXTURE

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Hebrews 2
6"What is man, that You remember him?
Or the son of man, that You are concerned about him?
7 "You have made him [h]for a little while lower than the angels;
You have crowned him with glory and honor,
And have appointed him over the works of Your hands;
8 You have put all things in subjection under his feet."
For in subjecting all things to him, He left nothing that is not subject to him. But now we do not yet see all things subjected to him.

Very nice.  Thanks you.

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   destroying  the false  doctrines /devils Babylon ,  yes in this the  wrath of God is complete and finished DONE

When everyone will Know GODS TRUTH perfectly

Rev 15:1 Then I saw in heaven another marvelous event of great significance. Seven angels were holding the seven last plagues, which would bring God's wrath to completion.


Rev 16:17 Then the seventh angel poured out his bowl into the air. And a mighty shout came from the throne in the Temple, saying, "It is finished!"   

The meaning of Babel, Babylon (1) in the Bible
(From International Standard Bible Encyclopedia)

ba'-bel, bab'-i-lon (Topographical): Babylon was the Greek name of the city written in the cuneiform script of the Babylonians, bab-ili, which means in Semitic, "the gate of god." The Hebrews called the country, as well as the city, Babhel. This name they considered came from the' root, balal, "to confound" (Genesis 11:9).   CONFUSION MIXTURE

Wow.  Perfect fit.

Thank you.

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Oh Ed  :HeartThrob:

These have been the words of my heart ever since joining this forum I nearly burst into tears half way through.

Death is no longer in my spirit or soul. Love is light and light Is life.

:dsunny: May we never cease growing on and through Love of Father and his Christ.

Thank  you from the bottom of my heart.  :HeartThrob:

Love Julie  :girlheart:

Me too Julie,

It amazes me the change in the heart a little doctrine tweaking can do.

To actually be filled with love for people as we walk through this world can not be under estimated.  Healing the heart is what it is about!

.

[dajomaco]

For he hath made him to be sin for us, who knew no sin; that we might be made the righteousness of God in him.

So if Christ was made sin. He knew no sin.

I was made righteous. I know nothing about righteousness.

All I know is that I have been made righteous.

[sheila]

ahhh..yes...the confusing tree of the knowledge of good and evil..that calls evil good and good evil

and leads to death.  The Tree of life is not like that..and He that has tasted death for every man

shall lead us to it!

[Seth]

For he hath made him to be sin for us, who knew no sin; that we might be made the righteousness of God in him.

So if Christ was made sin. He knew no sin.

I was made righteous. I know nothing about righteousness.

All I know is that I have been made righteous.

I believe we are made to be righteous the same way we were made to be sinners. Adam brought sin into the world, and our minds were given over to carnality and our works followed.

Christ reverses death.

Therefore, we are given a spiritual mind and our works follow, and thus we are are alive together with Christ. Nobody who abides in sin is righteous before God. Nobody who lacks mercy will receive it.nobody who deceives will escape strong delusion. He will reward each according to thier works.

[dajomaco]

For I know that nothing good lives in me, that is, in my flesh. For the desire to do what is good is with me, but there is no ability to do it.

I trust the finished work of the cross.
I absolutely do not trust in any ones ability to work righteousness
Least of all my own. 

[Seth]

For I know that nothing good lives in me, that is, in my flesh. For the desire to do what is good is with me, but there is no ability to do it.

I trust the finished work of the cross.
I absolutely do not trust in any ones ability to work righteousness
Least of all my own.

Well, the good news is that if you have a desire, but cannot do good, God can help you learn. For he says "When thy (God's) judgments are in the earth, the people of the world learn righteousness."

I know people often quote Romans 7 as a way to say that is not necessary, but please take note that Paul is talking about failure in growth when trying to follow the Law. That will always bring failure. Righteousness does not come by the Law, because the letter kills but the Spirit brings life. Faith brings the Spirit and walking according to the Spirit does bring forth fruits unto righteousness.

From Paul:

Romans 2
5 But because of your stubbornness and unrepentant heart you are storing up wrath for yourself in the day of wrath and revelation of the righteous judgment of God, 6 who will render to each person according to his deeds: to those who by perseverance in doing good seek for glory and honor and immortality: eternal life (the life of the aion); 8 but to those who are selfishly ambitious and do not obey the truth, but obey unrighteousness, wrath and indignation. 9 There will be tribulation and distress for every soul of man who does evil, of the Jew first and also of the Greek, 10 but glory and honor and peace to everyone who does good, to the Jew first and also to the Greek. 11 For there is no partiality with God.


It seems obvious to me that interpreting Romans 7 as a way to not produce fruits of righteousness was not his intention, given that the above passage (and many more in all his letters) say the direct opposite. This is why we must grow to maturity in Grace, not attempt to perfect ourselves by the Law.