Messiah's blood found?

Cardinal · July 11, 2010, 01:36:42 AM

:cloud9: Can't vouch for the truth of this obviously, but this is astounding if true.....

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Beloved Servant · July 11, 2010, 01:38:42 AM

...and non-members...

Beloved Servant · July 11, 2010, 01:42:33 AM

Yes, I saw this story several years ago.
The archaeological community just dismissed it.

There's a YouTube video.

thinktank · July 11, 2010, 07:23:19 PM

I read an article on tentmakers site about this, seems it was a fraud.

But maybe Gary is wrong, for wyatt seems to have found Noa's ark.

WhiteWings · July 11, 2010, 09:35:17 PM

Card can you quote that message here?

I think Wyatt is a fraud.

Cardinal · July 11, 2010, 11:00:35 PM

:cloud9: Quote what, WW? :dontknow:

WhiteWings · July 11, 2010, 11:02:04 PM

Quote from: Cardinal on July 11, 2010, 11:00:35 PM
:cloud9: Quote what, WW? :dontknow:

Quote from: Cardinal on July 11, 2010, 01:36:42 AM
:cloud9: Can't vouch for the truth of this obviously, but this is astounding if true.....

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Cardinal · July 11, 2010, 11:08:48 PM

:cloud9: Apparently not.....I must have copied the wrong link???

WhiteWings · July 12, 2010, 12:21:30 AM

A link not high on my gotta-believe list:
http://www.theforbiddenknowledge.com/hardtruth/ark_of_the_covenant.htm
http://www.revelife.com/726867790/the-ark-of-the-covenant-found-with-jesus-blood/

WhiteWings · July 14, 2010, 05:43:25 PM

Wyatt and the Ark of Convenant

His site

Cardinal · July 14, 2010, 09:31:13 PM

:cloud9: One of the reasons I don't believe he found it, is because I think the Jews have it and know exactly where it is.

I mean, that would have been their number one priority to hide and they had/have underground tunnels all through the city going out of it, and under the temple mount.

And if they really thought HE had it, he would probably have already been killed for it. In the 90's when a Jewish scholar translated a fragment of the Dead Sea Scrolls that pointed clearly to a son of God, they put out a million dollar bounty on him after he announced his findings to the world, and he had to go into hiding.

I have also personally met several Messianic Rabbis from all parts of the world, also in the '90's, who had the same bounty on their heads, for having the Torah scrolls in their Messianic congregations. One of them had his church fire bombed. They are deadly serious about their "stuff". Blessings...

WhiteWings · July 14, 2010, 09:38:44 PM

Yeah they would start WW-3 and 4 and 5 to get it.
And yes their first priority would be to get it out. Or hidden.

thinktank · July 14, 2010, 10:13:19 PM

One of the reasons I don't believe he found it, is because I think the Jews have it and know exactly where it is.
cardinal

Assuming there is blood! This reminds me of the quest of the holy grail, people searching for the grail inside a cup, when the real grail is found in faith in Jesus Sacrifice.

Cardinal · July 14, 2010, 10:46:57 PM

:cloud9: The real grail is the womb/soul of man, the "vessel" the wine/seed of His Spirit is to fill to overflowing, ie. the new wine of the Kingdom is a SEED, to "her" a Son is born.

Blessed is the fruit of thy WOMB. Blessed is every firstborn son that opens up the WOMB. The woman/womb/soul is saved through childbirth. When He comes, His reward is with Him. Check this out....

Genesis 15:1 After these things the word of the LORD came unto Abram in a vision, saying , Fear not, Abram: I am thy shield, and thy exceeding great reward. 2 And Abram said , Lord GOD, what wilt thou give me, seeing I go childless, and the steward of my house is this Eliezer of Damascus?

"Exceeding" there runs into a word that means "firebrand". Compare with Deborah's husband Lapidoth, which means firebrand, and also the torches put in the EARTHEN/CLAY pitchers when Jericho was surrounded.

"Great" there means to multiply or increase, and "reward" there means to get by trade, bargain for, or wages, and to give a banquet or a feast (marriage supper>being consumed by union,to produce a son). Immediately after saying this, God speaks to Abram about his SEED. He also changes their names, to reflect this "firebrand", the "Ha" addition is in the divine name, YWHW. Check this out....

Psalms 127:3 KJV
Lo, children are an heritage of the LORD: and the fruit of the WOMB is his REWARD.

We "trade" with God to receive/earn wages. The WAGES of sin is death/darkness. This is why there is much in there about buying and mechandizing, and when it's not for the things of HIS Kingdom, it creates death. Blessings....

Revelation 3:18 KJV
I counsel thee to buy of me gold tried in the fire, that thou mayest be rich; and white raiment, that thou mayest be clothed, and that the shame of thy nakedness do not appear; and anoint thine eyes with eyesalve, that thou mayest see.

micah7:9 · July 20, 2010, 09:11:39 AM

Im just wondering and I do not ask questions just to ask. Why is it that alot of what is taught or enlightens us, we are to understand in the spirit. Like cirumcision, baptism, communion, born again, the clouds (as ministries) and other things. But when it comes to things like Noe's ark, or the Ark of the convanant these things need me phyisical as proof of some thing that believers say they already believe by faith?
I dont believe the flood was world wide, but I believe in the what the flood means to me as a saint. I dont believe the beginning of Gen. 1:1 was THE beginning, but I do believe it is our given place to begin. I believe the OT is secondly Bible history, but firstly, I believe the the writing on the OT are types and shadows that open doors to the LIGHT so that the saints can SEE to day in the Spirit.
I say this again, for it is what I believe, if they should find Noe's ark or the Ark of the covenant then why the need for faith. (Heb.11:1) Would a relic, such as either of the two arks be found strenghten your faith? Would you become more intense in your faith if they were found? (Joh 20:29) From my faith I see JESUS IS THE ARK, those other two were but shadows of the real thing. I dont believe they will find the shadows.
Peace and Love Through Jesus. Just my :2c: and Im happy with it.

Cardinal · July 20, 2010, 10:20:28 AM

:cloud9: I don't need it to build up my faith, but I think it's great when they find things that support what I already believe. And I like archeological findings.....Blessings....

WhiteWings · July 20, 2010, 10:25:32 AM

Quote from: Cardinal on July 20, 2010, 10:20:28 AM
:cloud9: I don't need it to build up my faith

Maybe not; but perhaps certain findings can make things clear(er). Make 'm fall in place. Learn. And that, in a way, is building faith...

Cardinal · July 20, 2010, 10:28:22 AM

:cloud9: My comment was about them finding the literal Noah's ark.....however learning is always good, and does help with faith, that's true.....

Beloved Servant · July 20, 2010, 04:06:03 PM

Faith is believing in things UNSEEN and without faith it is impossible to please Him, for he who comes to God must believe that He is and that He is a rewarder of those who seek Him.

WhiteWings · July 20, 2010, 04:21:45 PM

Quote from: Beloved Servant on July 20, 2010, 04:06:03 PMFaith is believing in things UNSEEN and without faith it is impossible to please Him, for he who comes to God must believe that He is and that He is a rewarder of those who seek Him.

David, but isn't you faith based on something? (like a visible Bible) Why you believe in God and not Kermit? Did you one day wake up and said: Let's believe something.
:2c:

micah7:9 · July 20, 2010, 04:50:40 PM

Quote from: WhiteWings on July 20, 2010, 04:21:45 PM
Quote from: Beloved Servant on July 20, 2010, 04:06:03 PMFaith is believing in things UNSEEN and without faith it is impossible to please Him, for he who comes to God must believe that He is and that He is a rewarder of those who seek Him.
David, but isn't you faith based on something? (like a visible Bible) Why you believe in God and not Kermit? Did you one day wake up and said: Let's believe something.
:2c:

Im a David too, and my faith is built on the Rock foundation of Jesus Christ my Saviour. And the reason I believe in God and not Kermit is the Holy Spirit.
I know that the Spirit is of more substance than anything I can hold or see in the natural. FAITH IS believing in the things not seen. Again its only my :2c:

Beloved Servant · July 20, 2010, 04:52:11 PM

As a youth, my parents raised me into the Roman Catholic religion.

Years later, Christ Himself woke me up from that shallow grave.

WhiteWings · July 20, 2010, 04:58:10 PM

Quote from: micah7:9 on July 20, 2010, 04:50:40 PMFAITH IS believing in the things not seen

Because of...seen things (as a starting point)
Also my :2c:

Beloved Servant · July 20, 2010, 05:19:29 PM

That is not how I read Roman 10:16, 17

But they have not all obeyed the gospel. For Esaias saith, Lord, who hath believed our report?

So then faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word of God.

18 But I say, Have they not heard? Yes verily, their sound went into all the earth, and their words unto the ends of the world.

micah7:9 · July 20, 2010, 05:52:53 PM

Rom 10:14 How then shall they call upon him in whom they did not believe? and how shall they believe on him of whom they did not hear? and how shall they hear apart from one preaching?

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