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Is the book of Revelation in anyway supposed to be prophetic?

Started by Universalist Catholic, June 19, 2010, 01:14:14 AM

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Universalist Catholic

We are probably all well aware of the Fundamentalists who come with tidings of doom and can quote Revelation pretty well. amd turn it into some absurd horror story.  Many make the claim that we are already through the 1st or 2nd part of Revelation.  Is that book in anyway going in some type of Chronological Order? 

Beloved Servant



Some would say that the whole story of the Bible takes place right between your ears and that we can find ourselves within every character in the Bible.

thinktank

I've been studying the book of revelation for a long time and learned a lot from it.

If the book did not exist, you could still make a case for the various events happening in any case, because other books teach the same things taught within it.

Is it in chronological order? yes and no

It takes skill and practice but some of the events happen at the same time as each other, which makes it impossible to write in a chronological order. John focuses on one aspect, then he turns to another event that happens roughly the same time.

I know how you feel about the doom and gloom, it is upsetting, but this is what is written and will one day come to pass.

When it is time you will know, don't listen to the false prophets who say woe woe the sky is falling, when the time is at hand, as long as you keep close to God you will know when it begins to come to pass.
From what I've learned there is more time left than what some propose.

Cardinal

Quote from: Beloved Servant on June 19, 2010, 01:20:12 AM


Some would say that the whole story of the Bible takes place right between your ears and that we can find ourselves within every character in the Bible.

:cloud9: And I would add that we can find them within Christ within us. Blessings...
"I would rather train twenty men to pray, than a thousand to preach; A minister's highest mission ought to be to teach his people to pray." -H. MacGregor


micah7:9

Quote from: Cardinal on June 19, 2010, 03:20:11 AM
Quote from: Beloved Servant on June 19, 2010, 01:20:12 AM


Some would say that the whole story of the Bible takes place right between your ears and that we can find ourselves within every character in the Bible.

:cloud9: And I would add that we can find them within Christ within us. Blessings...
:thumbsup:

thinktank

Quote from: Beloved Servant on June 19, 2010, 03:25:13 AM

There is, and will ever be, only ONE man in heaven.

who is this One man you speak of?

I assume you believe in soul sleep?


thinktank

head and body, so you do believe in the rapture :cloud9:


thinktank

But christs body is his church and you said that his body is in heaven

Beloved Servant

#11
Jesus retains His glorified flesh.

Beloved Servant

#12
Yes, we are the body of Christ.

thinktank


Beloved Servant

Please read the post again.
I clarified the previous statement.

Nathan

I wouldn't say "formed" so much, I believe that happened within him leading up to the cross.  We were forming within him and poured out of him upon his death . .the blood and water from his side . . .for 40 days he walked on the earth after the resurrection . . .to me, 40 is the number for birthing as it is 40 weeks for a woman's gestation from conception to childbirth . . .at the end of the 40 days, Jesus ascended, perhaps you could say those 40 days birthed the spirit of ascension into the bride . .then 10 days later . . .number of law . . . the Holy spirit blew in and established the covenant that Jesus manifested without, and transformed it to be a new covenant to manifest "within" every one of us.

So for the bride to be forming now, again, for me . . .doesn't really fit as much as perhaps I'd say she's "maturing".  It's all about intimacy.  Any kid can make babies, but only a mature adult can have the wisdom to parenting.  I think what we're seeing is the bride is maturing from puberty into adulthood. 

When she can begin to reproduce the true nature of the Son rather than pursuing the rush of the acts of intimacy such as following just the signs and wonders, but actually manifesting them herself, then we'll see the merging of spirit and flesh becoming one as the Head, which is Christ, becomes one with the body of Christ . .which is us.