HELL is a Christian hoax... L.Ray Smith

[willieH]

willieH: Hi-D-Ho me brathiz  :icon_king: & sistiz  :icon_queen:

L. Ray has produced an new paper on his site.  In reading it, my own beliefs are reflected throughout (which is probably why I'm recommending it   :laughhand: :mblush:)

Take a look... its a really good summary of Christianity's teachings about "HELL"... and exposing this for the fallacy that it is...

Here's the link:

http://bible-truths.com/23-minutes-in-hell.html

:Peace:

...willieH  :cloud9:

[Universalist Catholic]

I just started reading it. 

[thinktank]

I don't understand how anyone who names Jesus as lord thinks he will turn around and throw them into devils hell simply for rejecting him.

There is a scripture where the disciples are saying to Jesus, we rebuked him lord because he followed us not.

Jesus said, rebuke them not, there is not anyone in my name who speaketh lightly of me.

The vision that this Bill had was probably his own imagination, playing tricks on him after his brain was shutting down and nearing death, allowing his deeper mind to be accessed, a bit like a nightmare he had, but he thinks its from God. Be carefull with those people who say they had a ND experience those who have visions of hell etc, they are mostly false prophets or they simply misunderstand the message being spoken.

[Paul Hazelwood]

I don't understand how anyone who names Jesus as lord thinks he will turn around and throw them into devils hell simply for rejecting him.

There is a scripture where the disciples are saying to Jesus, we rebuked him lord because he followed us not.

Jesus said, rebuke them not, there is not anyone in my name who speaketh lightly of me.

The vision that this Bill had was probably his own imagination, playing tricks on him after his brain was shutting down and nearing death, allowing his deeper mind to be accessed, a bit like a nightmare he had, but he thinks its from God. Be carefull with those people who say they had a ND experience those who have visions of hell etc, they are mostly false prophets or they simply misunderstand the message being spoken.

Bill didn't have any vision, he wrote a book to make money with using his imagination playing on Christian fear and insecurity and it worked out well.

Two key ingredients to influence a books success. 

1. Play on the fears and insecurity of the Christendom community and be sure to b e as emotional and dramatically over the top as you can.

2. Make sure the Christendom community is deeply offended and you will get free word of mouth advertising that millions of dollars could not match.

[thinktank]

I don't understand how anyone who names Jesus as lord thinks he will turn around and throw them into devils hell simply for rejecting him.

There is a scripture where the disciples are saying to Jesus, we rebuked him lord because he followed us not.

Jesus said, rebuke them not, there is not anyone in my name who speaketh lightly of me.

The vision that this Bill had was probably his own imagination, playing tricks on him after his brain was shutting down and nearing death, allowing his deeper mind to be accessed, a bit like a nightmare he had, but he thinks its from God. Be carefull with those people who say they had a ND experience those who have visions of hell etc, they are mostly false prophets or they simply misunderstand the message being spoken.

Bill didn't have any vision, he wrote a book to make money with using his imagination playing on Christian fear and insecurity and it worked out well.

Two key ingredients to influence a books success. 

1. Play on the fears and insecurity of the Christendom community and be sure to b e as emotional and dramatically over the top as you can.

2. Make sure the Christendom community is deeply offended and you will get free word of mouth advertising that millions of dollars could not match.

I've read the rest of the site and I think your right, the evidence against him having that vision was strong

[marcstalkspot]

I don't understand how anyone who names Jesus as lord thinks he will turn around and throw them into devils hell simply for rejecting him.

There is a scripture where the disciples are saying to Jesus, we rebuked him lord because he followed us not.

Jesus said, rebuke them not, there is not anyone in my name who speaketh lightly of me.

The vision that this Bill had was probably his own imagination, playing tricks on him after his brain was shutting down and nearing death, allowing his deeper mind to be accessed, a bit like a nightmare he had, but he thinks its from God. Be carefull with those people who say they had a ND experience those who have visions of hell etc, they are mostly false prophets or they simply misunderstand the message being spoken.

Bill didn't have any vision, he wrote a book to make money with using his imagination playing on Christian fear and insecurity and it worked out well.

Two key ingredients to influence a books success. 

1. Play on the fears and insecurity of the Christendom community and be sure to b e as emotional and dramatically over the top as you can.

2. Make sure the Christendom community is deeply offended and you will get free word of mouth advertising that millions of dollars could not match.

Praise the Lord!  Someone who can see thru bullcrap!

[eaglesway]

Yes, I think I need to forget the scriptures and go buy Bill W.'s book cause I don't want to go to "Hell" and be tormented by hideous "demons" forever and ever and ever ad infinitum. Good thing God is excusing these demons from punishment so they can go on tormenting humans all through eternity. Oh My Goodness, I hope Bills vision/imagination saves a couple of those billions and billions of eternally tormented souls.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hel_(being)

The above page has a little history on the origins of the Norse/ Anglo-Saxon word "hell"


Let no one keep defrauding you of your prize by delighting in self-abasement and the worship of the angels, taking his stand on visions he has seen, inflated without cause by his fleshly mind, and not holding fast to the head, from whom the entire body, being supplied and held together by the joints and ligaments, grows with a growth which is from God.
(Col 2:18-19NASB)


If there arise among you a prophet, or a dreamer of dreams, and giveth thee a sign or a wonder, And the sign or the wonder come to pass, whereof he spake unto thee, saying, Let us go after other gods, which thou hast not known, and let us serve them; Thou shalt not hearken unto the words of that prophet, or that dreamer of dreams: for the LORD your God proveth you, to know whether ye love the LORD your God with all your heart and with all your soul. Ye shall walk after the LORD your God, and fear him, and keep his commandments, and obey his voice, and ye shall serve him, and cleave unto him. And that prophet, or that dreamer of dreams, shall be put to death; because he hath spoken to turn you away from the LORD your God, which brought you out of the land of Egypt, and redeemed you out of the house of bondage, to thrust thee out of the way which the LORD thy God commanded thee to walk in. So shalt thou put the evil away from the midst of thee.
(Deu 13:1-5KJV)