144,000 are virgin, never defiled with woman and other stuff

[IceDash]

That mean they never think of pervert thought (that would be impossible, everyone have sex fantasy, always!)

It funny that the bible said that they only know the secret song that no one know but it funny, it said the secret song there in front of us, confused?

And it funny that the bible said no one will know Jesus's real name but in the next verse said his real name is "lord of lords and King of kings" on his thigh

(However, is that tattoo? If it is, wow....didn't know heaven have tattoo parlor....)

[Nathan]

Don't let the imagery mess you up bud.  It's symbolic.  144,000 is a sum of the 12 tribes.  12 is the number of God's government.  12,000 from 12 tribes is where this is coming from.  But we are all Jews of the spiritual sense.  This is depicting man that has been redeemed back to God.  The reference to becoming a virgin, I'm really skipping a lot of platforms on which this all builds on, but it's referring to the whoring mind of man.  Christ restores our mind back to it's original state . . .we become virgins in our thinking again.  Not literal virgins, spiritual virgins.  To take it spiritually is to apply it inwardly.

See the body of Christ as one man.  In man is a spirit and a soul.  The spirit exemplifies the Sons of God in me, the soul represents the bride of Christ.  I am both a son of God and a bride of Christ.  These passages from Genesis to Revelation are all different illustrations of the same truth.  God created man, man fell.  God sent the last man to redeem the first man back to him.  The last man (Adam) is Christ.

The secret song is the song of praise that comes through revelation.  no "man" knows it.  Natural man, natural mind.  My mind can't comprehend the song of redemption.  All it can do is observe it and try to "learn" it.  But the song isn't one for learning.  It's one for experiencing.  Those that experience the song of salvation are the ones who sing it.  Man as a whole, natural reasoning can't sing it because it doesn't "know" it.  There's no intimacy between the carnal mind and the spirit of Truth. 

To know the "name" is to know the identity.  My name is reflective of my nature.  You know my name, you'll know my nature.  No, it's not a tattoo, it's a principle of the nature of God.  We are kings that he is king over, and we are lords that he is lord over. 

Don't let the imagery mess you up. 

[IceDash]

Don't let the imagery mess you up bud.  It's symbolic.  144,000 is a sum of the 12 tribes.  12 is the number of God's government.  12,000 from 12 tribes is where this is coming from.  But we are all Jews of the spiritual sense.  This is depicting man that has been redeemed back to God.  The reference to becoming a virgin, I'm really skipping a lot of platforms on which this all builds on, but it's referring to the whoring mind of man.  Christ restores our mind back to it's original state . . .we become virgins in our thinking again.  Not literal virgins, spiritual virgins.  To take it spiritually is to apply it inwardly.

See the body of Christ as one man.  In man is a spirit and a soul.  The spirit exemplifies the Sons of God in me, the soul represents the bride of Christ.  I am both a son of God and a bride of Christ.  These passages from Genesis to Revelation are all different illustrations of the same truth.  God created man, man fell.  God sent the last man to redeem the first man back to him.  The last man (Adam) is Christ.

The secret song is the song of praise that comes through revelation.  no "man" knows it.  Natural man, natural mind.  My mind can't comprehend the song of redemption.  All it can do is observe it and try to "learn" it.  But the song isn't one for learning.  It's one for experiencing.  Those that experience the song of salvation are the ones who sing it.  Man as a whole, natural reasoning can't sing it because it doesn't "know" it.  There's no intimacy between the carnal mind and the spirit of Truth. 

To know the "name" is to know the identity.  My name is reflective of my nature.  You know my name, you'll know my nature.  No, it's not a tattoo, it's a principle of the nature of God.  We are kings that he is king over, and we are lords that he is lord over. 

Don't let the imagery mess you up. 

Well, don't blame me, I am not using imagery

Why can't John said "Remember, i am writing this with many meanings, dragon do not mean dragon, fire do not mean fire, so use your wisdom and mind to decipher what I said"

come on john!! He confused thousand s of people when he said "THIS SHALL COME TO PASS!"

[Beloved Servant]

CORINTHIANS 1:1;
18 For the word of the cross is stupidity, indeed, to those who are perishing, yet to us who are being saved it is the power of God.
19 For it is written, I shall be destroying the wisdom of the wise, and the understanding of the intelligent shall I be repudiating.
20 Where is the wise? Where is the scribe? Where is the discusser of this eon? Does not God make stupid the wisdom of this world?
21 For since, in fact, in the wisdom of God, the world through wisdom knew not God, God delights, through the stupidity of the heralding, to save those who are believing,
22 since, in fact, Jews signs are requesting, and Greeks wisdom are seeking,
23 yet we are heralding Christ crucified, to Jews, indeed, a snare, yet to the nations stupidity,
24 yet to those who are called, both Jews and Greeks, Christ, the power of God and the wisdom of God,
25 for the stupidity of God is wiser than men, and the weakness of God is stronger than men.
26 For you are observing your calling, brethren, that there are not many wise according to the flesh; not many powerful, not many noble,
27 but the stupidity of the world God chooses, that He may be disgracing the wise, and the weakness of the world God chooses, that He may be disgracing the strong,
28 and the ignoble and the contemptible things of the world God chooses, and that which is not, that He should be discarding that which is,
29 so that no flesh at all should be boasting in God's sight.
30 Yet you, of Him, are in Christ Jesus, Who became to us wisdom from God, besides righteousness and holiness and deliverance,
31 that, according as it is written, He who is boasting, in the Lord let him be boasting.

...all words that are written are written with symbols.

[Beloved Servant]

Wow, this just turned my head.

26 For you are observing your calling...

allelluiah

[Nathan]

Often in Scripture we see the phrase "he that hath an ear, let him hear".  That's a sign in and of itself that the words surrounding that little proclamation are spiritual.  Jesus stated that we're to eat his flesh and drink his blood, but he didn't "mean" his literal flesh and blood.  He lost many of his followers that day because he was trying to lead them into a spiritual place that their minds were not willing to go. 

This stuff is mind-blowing, but it's not as complicated as our minds are letting on.  All that is required to see these kingdom principles is an open and willing heart.  One thing I tell people on a regular basis is, "I don't mind that you don't understand.  All I ask is you not reject what's being offered.  Because what I'm sharing is not for your mind, it's for your spirit to receive and then plant in your mind so that understanding will be "birthed" in you."

The key with this is, it needs to be a personal experience, not just a session of sharing knowledge.  That's what revelation is, it's God directly revealing to you the nature of Christ to you, on your level of understanding. 

[CHB]

26 For you are observing your calling, brethren, that there are not many wise according to the flesh; not many powerful, not many noble,

Amen!! and you can count me in on these, not many wise, powerful, or noble. I feel like Paul said of himself, I am the least, of the least.

CHB