Question about God's creating work

[fullarmor2]

   Do you think God has been creating beings who live forever from all eternity?  And if so,  wouldn't that mean there are an infinite number of beings who had a beginning but who live forever? 

[WhiteWings]

I think no infinite numbers.
The Bible doesn't speak of other creations (that I know of)
It doesn't state we are the first and/or last creation.
Some say the Nephlim are another creation.

[Cardinal]

 :cloud9: Personally, yes......Blessings.....

[willieH]

willieH: Hi fullarmor2... :hithere:

  Do you think God has been creating beings who live forever from all eternity?  And if so,  wouldn't that mean there are an infinite number of beings who had a beginning but who live forever?  

That is both, a humorous  :laughing7: ...as well as a VERY GOOD  :thumbsup: question Fullarmor2!

FIRST -- nothing which has a BEGINNING is "forever"... for it BEGAN, which means it has limitation, which the expression of the word "FOREVER" denies to have.  What "BEGAN" and shall "END" is the REVELATION of the KNOWLEDGE of GOOD and EVIL which is contained in the WORD of GOD, and is PART of the KNOWLEDGE of YHVH...

CHRIST, who has NO BEGINNING or END, is BOTH to that which has BEGINNING and END...  

That which is COMPLETE, no longer need proceed any further.  The KNOWLEDGE of EVIL which is ordained to be KNOWN by YHVH, will reach its PERFECT and COMPLETE revelation.  Once it DOES... it shall no longer EVER be practiced again:

Nah 1:9 -- what do ye imagine against YHVH? He will make an UTTER END: ...AFFLICTION [adversity/adversary = #H6869] shall NOT ...RISE UP a SECOND TIME...

Rev 21:4  And God shall wipe away ALL TEARS from their eyes; and there shall be NO MORE DEATH [EVIL = manifest SIN which brings forth death] neither SORROW, nor CRYING, neither shall there be ANY MORE PAIN, for the FORMER THINGS "are" PASSED AWAY


SECOND -- Hoping to explain what I mean by all this, ...Here is what I believe about the "Creation"...  :2c:

It is a REVELATION (revealing) of the knowledge of Good and Evil contained in the WORD of the Heart of ALMIGHTY YHVH God...  ALL things within it are ETERNAL in the KNOWLEDGE but only TEMPORAL in the MANIFESTATION.

Might I say... that once a contrary thing is "LEARNED" it is avoided in the future by the one so educated by it.  Something like a kid having a "taste" of dog poop...  :laughing7:

The "taste" gives the child the KNOWLEDGE that said "DP" shall never again be upon his "cuisine agenda"   :pointlaugh: :laugh:

The REVEALING of the KNOWLEDGE of GOOD and EVIL via the "Creation" of GOD, is much like a LIVING "textbook" or "dictionary" if you will... which shall FOREVER denote the difference between GOOD which is GOD's "practiced LIVING nature" and EVIL which is contrary to that "practiced LIVING nature"...

Like EVERYTHING about YHVH God, ..the KNOWLEDGE of God is a LIVING KNOWLEDGE which is WHY the "Creation" is completely ALIVE... it is also an UNCHANGING KNOWLEDGE, which is COMPLETE... The "creation" and all actions within it are yet INCOMPLETELY revealed, so TIME shall continue until ALL is REVEALED...

JESUS said:

Luke 21:33 --  "heaven and earth" shall pass away but MY WORDS shall NOT PASS AWAY...  Within His WORD is the expressed KNOWLEDGE of GOOD and EVIL...

ALL things in "Creation" are MANIFEST and MADE BY the WORD which DOES NOT CHANGE -- James 1:17 -- Heb 13:8 -- and which shall NOT PASS AWAY -- John 1:3

IMO -- "Creation" has ALWAYS BEEN, just UNREVEALED...

What shall "Pass Away" is manifestation of that which is contrary to the COMMAND of GOD... which said manifestation, brings forth DEATH, PAIN, SORROW, CRYING and IS the ADVERSITY and ADVERSARY of the COMMAND of YHVH.

That which is being REVEALED by the WORD of GOD, and is observed as His "Creation" ...is the REVEALED EXPRESSION of the "silent" and "still small voice" of the heart of YHVH God.  

We are MADE (revealed) in His IMAGE and that is exactly what IS our experience in our reality.  

Another PERSON outside of us, does not KNOW what is in our HEART unless it is either SPOKEN or MANIFEST in actions...

When all is said and done is the REVELATION of JESUS CHRIST, which IS the WORD.  Once the KNOWLEDGE is complete... Then the ONLY thing which shall be MANIFEST ETERNALLY shall be the PRACTICE of GOOD... but the LIVING KNOWLEDGE that has displayed IMPERFECTION, and which we all have EXPERIENCED and were a part of HERE in the "Creation" (being Sons of YHVH, His body and temple)... shall EVER REMAIN to GLORIFY the UNCHANGING nature of YHVH which is ...GOOD, ...LOVE and ...PERFECTION...

The reason that EVIL has been displayed in HORRIBLE proportions is that the KNOWLEDGE that YHVH has of it... is PERFECT, and complete... and is WHY He in His INTENT to reveal the PERFECT KNOWLEDGE of EVIL contained in HIS WORD... He has abstained from prohibiting the extreme degrees of its revelation by DIVINE interventions.

:Peace:

...willieH  :icon_king:

[Paul Hazelwood]

   Do you think God has been creating beings who live forever from all eternity?  And if so,  wouldn't that mean there are an infinite number of beings who had a beginning but who live forever? 

I think that since God never changes creation as we may understand it has always been and always will be. 

[Beloved Servant]

That was a wonderful post Willie and thank you.
It points out the need for all creation to mature into the fullness of God through Christ.
Again, Oh! The wonder of the Cross!

[Beloved Servant]

Haven't we existed In Him before we were formed in our mothers womb?

[willieH]

willieH: Hi Beloved... :hithere:

Good question bro...

Haven't we existed In Him before we were formed in our mothers womb?

It is my belief that ALL THINGS have ALWAYS BEEN... For all things emerge from He who has ALWAYS BEEN... They ALWAYS ARE, just yet UNREVEALED.

The "creation" is a REVELATION of LIVING KNOWLEDGE that has ALWAYS BEEN... and emerges from the WORD which has ALWAYS BEEN...

It is quite significant, that the parable of the Prodigal son notes that the "Lost" son was WITH the Father, then became LOST, then RETURNED...  

One cannot "RETURN" to a place or scenario that one has not been PREVIOUS to that RETURN.  :dontknow:

How can you "go back" to a place you have "never been"?  :laughing7:

:Peace:

...willieH  :HeartThrob:

[Cardinal]

 :cloud9: Exactly.....Hosea says, RETURN unto Me.......you can't return to a place you've never been before, and this is within some other scriptures talking about 3 days. Blessings....

[Taffy]

How can you "go back" to a place you have "never been"?

:bgdance: :bgdance: :icon_flower:

[peacemaker]

Well, I'll add my voice to that, "AMEN."

peacemaker