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Did Jesus descend into hell?

Started by B_T, October 01, 2007, 10:41:05 PM

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Kept

I havent read this thread, just this last page but firstborn888 have you ever read Hannah Hurnards Eagles wings to High Places where she sees the cross? That is one of the most beautiful things Ive ever read, she sees ALL mankind on that cross and it changed how she saw all mankind from then on.

Mother Theresa had a similar experiance in India and is why she committed to stay and work there, she saw a leper in the street dying and saw Jesus in Him and went to give him a cup of water, that changed her life, seeing HIM in that man and from then in all suffering mankind.

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Quote from: Kept on October 12, 2007, 02:27:19 AM
I havent read this thread, just this last page but firstborn888 have you ever read Hannah Hurnards Eagles wings to High Places where she sees the cross? That is one of the most beautiful things Ive ever read, she sees ALL mankind on that cross and it changed how she saw all mankind from then on.

Hi,
  Haven't heard of it - I'll check it out for sure.

      thanks

martincisneros

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I'll have to review FineLinen's post later when I'm more awake, because I haven't looked at those types of quotes in quite a while.  But I've never had a problem with what in my former Word of Faith days would have been the whole controversy of the spiritual death of Jesus as a part of accomplishing our redemption.  Always made the most sense to me, although I didn't understand the UR implications at the time.  And I'm not sure if it's called the Gospel of Nicodemus or what it's called - epistle of Nicodemus??  I think it's supposed to be the Gospel of Nicodemus (sp?), where the whole drama is written out for us by someone in the early Church.  Odes of Solomon also are very rich early Christian hymns that it seems difficult to translate any other way, with any other implication. 

This is one of the areas where it's easier to believe in a literal hell than to believe that Christ simply either preached to dead bodies or to try to reduce His sermon to having been simply the presence of His own dead body in the grave.  If Peter and Luke simply meant that He was dead, they could have left it at that without what many modern translations would give us as the whole descent into Hell drama.  It's in the earliest Creeds of Christianity.  I'm sure I just became meat on the table of those those that are more acquainted with translation issues in each of these cases that I'm citing.  But I don't need to fully abandon belief in a literal Hell to account for the Universal Restoration.  How ever deep that the Hell ever was, that's just how much richer that grace was and is and will be!! :Sparkletooth: