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jabcat

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October 24, 2009, 07:48:42 AM
Quote from: WhiteWings on October 24, 2009, 07:43:24 AM
Then at the end of the debate noone listened.
So it's not only teh translation but ability to listen. 

Don't confuse me with the facts.  I've already made up my mind.
The oldest known manuscripts agree with each other 99% of the time.  The scriptures, accurately translated, Spirit revealed - reliable.   Looking unto Jesus, the Author and Finisher of our faith.  Heb. 12:2

WhiteWings

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October 24, 2009, 08:14:30 AM
Quote from: jabcat on October 24, 2009, 07:48:42 AM
Quote from: WhiteWings on October 24, 2009, 07:43:24 AM
Then at the end of the debate noone listened.
So it's not only teh translation but ability to listen. 

Don't confuse me with the facts.  I've already made up my mind.
Your answer confuses me!  :laughing7:
1 Timothy 2:3-4  ...God our Savior;  Who will have all men to be saved...
John 12:47  And if any man hear my words, and believe not, I judge him not: for I came not to judge the world, but to save the world.
Romans 4:5 But to the one who does not work, but believes in the one who declares the ungodly righteous ...
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jabcat

#27
October 24, 2009, 10:27:22 AM
Quote from: WhiteWings on October 24, 2009, 08:14:30 AM
Quote from: jabcat on October 24, 2009, 07:48:42 AM
Quote from: WhiteWings on October 24, 2009, 07:43:24 AM
Then at the end of the debate noone listened.
So it's not only teh translation but ability to listen. 

Don't confuse me with the facts.  I've already made up my mind.
Your answer confuses me!  :laughing7:

:tease:
The oldest known manuscripts agree with each other 99% of the time.  The scriptures, accurately translated, Spirit revealed - reliable.   Looking unto Jesus, the Author and Finisher of our faith.  Heb. 12:2

Cardinal

#28
October 24, 2009, 12:40:14 PM
 :cloud9: Since God plants the hearing ear, they are not going to hear until it is their time appointed of the Father. I think it is a maturity issue, as what is continually leveled as a "defense" against us, but that if we believe this way, then does that mean we should not worry about people coming to the Lord, "because all will be saved in the end anyway."

That is the motive of THEIR heart speaking, which is not yet mature enough to receive the knowledge of the truth in this matter, and they WOULD do exactly that if it was given to them prematurely, ie. sit on their laurels and watch the whole world cave in. My  :2c: Blessings....
"I would rather train twenty men to pray, than a thousand to preach; A minister's highest mission ought to be to teach his people to pray." -H. MacGregor

martincisneros

#29
October 24, 2009, 02:08:48 PM
Yeah, the message of UR obligates us all the more to go & get them & drag them to Christ & win the world at absolutely all costs. Lots of so-called UR folks don't yet see it that way & that's 'cause they've not yet embraced Christ Jesus's teachings. He said you go to the highways & biways & you compel them to come in so that My House will be filled!! He said that all authority was given to Him both in heaven & in earth, therefore go into all of the world & preach the Gospel to each & every Creature. Those that believe will be saved & those that don't will be damned, & these signs will follow those that believe in My Name: they'll disciple the nations, cast out the devil, speak new tongues, heal the sick, nothing shall by any means harm them, & I AM with them to the end of the age working with & confirming the Word with signs following!!
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