"Everything will be all right, It will be okay"

[IceDash]

2 week ago, I have this strange encounter while I was taking a short nap


Before I took a nap, I pray to jesus and told him that telling people the good news and hell don't exist will not change anything and also the world is become more darker and I felt NWO coming soon, very soon to control our life with no freedom, I ask him what the point of all this if no one going to change their's heart, I love you and I believe in freedom and love and good things, why Lord?

then after that prayer, I want to sleep and I have what you call 'reloop" wake dream, i woke up 6 time in dream, thinking if I did woke up or not, bam again i woke up, and again I woke up, WEIRD! All weird dreams I am havcing and I couldn't make sense out of it and then finally, I really woke up this time, and BAM

someone, I cannot see, dive their's arm and hand in my lower left rib, it feel like when you put your hand in the glass of water "sloosh" you know what I mean, I felt my liquid inside me bring sploosh and I felt someone's hand inside me and I felt this strange enegry inside me flowing around in my chest area and i was frighten and a voice (not a voice but more a message or telepahy inside my head said "Everything will be all right, it will be okay" and I was calm and felt peace and back to sleep

and then I woke up.....I was shocked and I never felt that way before in my life, I told my wife that everything will be okay, I felt God did this whole "NWO" or "evil thing" happen because he the creator and he also the story-maker, he make this life the way he see fit, I told my wife that we have to trust God what the earth is about to come.

[sparrow]

Hey IceDash...

(not a voice but more a message or telepahy inside my head said "Everything will be all right, it will be okay" and I was calm and felt peace and back to sleep

and then I woke up.....I was shocked and I never felt that way before in my life

I think this is awesome! and I have had something similar happen to me in my life (in a dream). I totally understand what you mean about the "telepathy" inside your head and the calm and peace and then waking up out of it in shock. I think this is wonderful that you experienced this.

Always keep it close to you and ponder it when you start to move into times of distress.
I think God gave you a hug, Ice Dash.
And I think He does want you to know that everything will truly be ok.
And to not fear.
To have peace in your heart.

Thank you for sharing. :HeartThrob:

[Raggedy Anne]

IceDash -

That is awesome.  I love it when I have those dreams from God and the voice speaking inside of me.  It is special and, as Sparrow said - hold those times close to your heart for the times when you do begin to feel distressed.    I've had a few dreams from God over the last several years and heard a message from him right upon awakening.  It is an amazing experience.  I usually don't tell everyone - or maybe just one of my children and my close Christian friend (RedLetterVoice).    I think the reason it happens when I have been sleeping is so I know it is not my own thoughts - it is like I wake up and immediately a voice speaks something to me before I have time to think anything and then oftentimes I will recall a dream I was having after the voice speaks and I will understand it spiritually.

Bless you :-)
Anne

[Gab]

I've only once ever had a dream (that I can recall, at least) that included God, but the one that I can remember was easily the most pleasant experience I can recall.  I don't remember the details too much, but I do remember that I was in God's presence in the dream, and the only real message I took away from it was, "Don't worry; I love you."  But that was enough - I remember that when I woke up, I felt happier and more peaceful than I had felt in a long time.

I don't know if it really was God, or if it was just a dream - but I do know that I wish I could have that dream again.

[jabcat]

I've only once ever had a dream (that I can recall, at least) that included God, but the one that I can remember was easily the most pleasant experience I can recall.  I don't remember the details too much, but I do remember that I was in God's presence in the dream, and the only real message I took away from it was, "Don't worry; I love you."  But that was enough - I remember that when I woke up, I felt happier and more peaceful than I had felt in a long time.

I don't know if it really was God, or if it was just a dream - but I do know that I wish I could have that dream again.

I like that dream  :thumbsup:

[IceDash]

thank you everyone, and yes, I believe God promises everything will be all right, even those lost souls and some evil people will be saved but their's work will be destory in the fire and might lose memory of who they are, that the price of being evil, I am glad I am able to remember who am I because I am just fine what I am and who am I, I am proud of being God's creation and hopefully people happy what they have what God gave them.

[dash]

Wow! Interesting post here from 2009 about a dream regarding the end times.

(I was flicking through some old posts and thought this might be of interest to others).

BTW I am not (and never was ICEDASH), though I do remember him and also SPARROW whom I had long chats with... 

Does anyone know if these folks still come here? 

I also recall Paul Hazelwood (friend2friend i think his name was).
Martincisneros...

This would have been around 2006-2010 at the 'boom' of universalism due to the work of Gary Amirault, definitely the original modern pioneer of the movement.

[Andrew]

Thanks Dash. The dream is interesting, and also the conclusion that came from the dream is interesting, and something I've pondered (God the story-maker). I also found it interesting how he said in one post that evil souls may "lose memory of who they were" as I believe that God may have also gave me an idea of something similar to that. I'm curious about people's born again experience (like how they came to that point, and what they did to begin a relationship with Jesus, and what happened afterwards), and  how they began to believe that everyone will be saved - it helps give me more confidence in universalism...so if you would like to share - that would be awesome. You seem to be very close to the Lord as the messages He gave you that you mentioned in another post.

Thanks

Andrew

[dash]

Thanks Dash. The dream is interesting, and also the conclusion that came from the dream is interesting, and something I've pondered (God the story-maker). I also found it interesting how he said in one post that evil souls may "lose memory of who they were" as I believe that God may have also gave me an idea of something similar to that. I'm curious about people's born again experience (like how they came to that point, and what they did to begin a relationship with Jesus, and what happened afterwards), and  how they began to believe that everyone will be saved - it helps give me more confidence in universalism...so if you would like to share - that would be awesome. You seem to be very close to the Lord as the messages He gave you that you mentioned in another post.

Thanks

Andrew

Hi.  :dsunny:

ICEDASH originally wrote:

I ask him what the point of all this if no one going to change their's heart

I write mostly in response to that.

We know for sure that all things are possible with God.
With God being love the most loving outcome is certain for God Who is Love is beginning and end.
Does this entail people losing their memories? Or can God do better than that? 
Does God have limits or are all things possible with Him?

1 Corinthians 4:5
Therefore form no premature judgements, but wait until the Lord returns. He will both bring to light the secrets of darkness and will openly disclose the motives that have been in people's hearts; and then the praise which each man deserves will come to him from God.

The Lord tells us in Revelation that these events 'must occur' and:

2 Thessalonians 2:3
Let no one in any way deceive you, for that day cannot come without the coming of the apostasy first..,

No doubt there is evil in the world, but we all are who we are by God's grace.
Whether we care to admit it or not; 'firey trials' bring us closer to God just as darkness brings out the light and the light shines brighter the darker it be.
And better are firey trials (incrementally) than being cast into a 'lake' of fire all at once.  (Learn to swim!).

2 Corinthians 4:6
For God, who said, 'Let light shine out of darkness,' made his light shine in our hearts to give us the light of the knowledge of God's glory displayed in the face of Christ.


We have to accept good and bad from God for one is needed to know the other:

Job 2:
Should we accept only good from God and not bad?

We must not question God - it is infinitely ridiculous to do so!
Of our own we would not choose anything 'bad', but God knows better.

Does the clay say to it's potter 'why did you make me like this?'


Right now we need 'correction' (we walked through fire) to be 'conformed into the image of God's Son'.
And why? - For OUR own good! - To know good and bad to 'be' a 'full' person.  Actually 'to be' anything at all.
Because without 'knowing' anything (contrast) we would be as babes.  (Adams original state (carnal/unspiritual) before eating of the fruit of the knowledge of good and evil).
'In Him (God) we live and move and have our (very) be-ing'.[/u]
Every single word in Scripture is relevant.

Lamentations 3:33
For he doth not afflict willingly nor grieve the children of men.

The price to pay for being us is that the righteous man (2nd Adam) 'Christ' must suffer.  Then death, resurrection, glorification.
We must 'pick up our cross and follow'.
The natural man comes first, then the spiritual. (1 Corinthians 15:46)

We are assured our present afflictions will be 'as nothing' compared to the glory to be revealed to us.

2 Corinthians 5:4
For while we are in this tent, we groan and are burdened, because we do not wish to be unclothed but to be clothed instead with our heavenly dwelling, so that what is mortal may be swallowed up by life.

We at present require something to push against (challenge) to grow (resistance).
Will we end up hating that which caused us to grow? - Or will we see the need for all? (God's plan).
And so will we be able to forgive our enemies who 'propelled' us forth?
Can we see these evils as opportunities for growth?
In men being evil to us, God uses their evil for good (for us).  When we see the good that has come from their evil towards us we can forgive their evil, (for without it we could not have grown (to become 'godly' people). And now our goodness (which the evil people helped create (albeit unknowingly) (having been used by God/good) is now for their good and for their forgiveness because we are able to forgive.  Bit of a mouthful of words there, but may the Lord grant you understanding of what I say.  (Think of Israel's unbelief and the Gentiles brought in through their unbelief).
How the devil would shudder if he realized that all his evil was being ultimately used for good!?

The book of Job explains how God uses the devil. (Good uses evil).
It always results in 'more' in the ending, just as sun and rain combined make a rainbow.

Romans 11:32-32
For God has bound everyone over to disobedience so that he may have mercy on them all.
Oh, the depth of the riches of the wisdom and knowledge of God! How unsearchable his judgments, and his paths beyond tracing out!


Gen 50:20
As for you, you meant evil against me, but God meant it for good, to bring to pass, as it is this day, to save many people alive.



Matthew 13:24-30
24 Another parable He put forth to them, saying: 'The kingdom of heaven is like a man who sowed good seed in his field;
25 but while men slept, his enemy came and sowed tares among the wheat and went his way.
26 But when the grain had sprouted and produced a crop, then the tares also appeared.
27 So the servants of the owner came and said to him, Sir, did you not sow good seed in your field How then does it have tares?
28 He said to them, An enemy has done this. The servants said to him, Do you want us then to go and gather them up?
29 But he said, ?No, lest while you gather up the tares you also uproot the wheat with them.
30 Let both grow together until the harvest, and at the time of harvest I will say to the reapers, 'First gather together the tares and bind them in bundles to burn them, but gather the wheat into my barn.'

It was through revelations from the Lord I came to believe.
In this world we can follow/worship men, or we can follow/worship God.
Some men speak on God's behalf, most do not.  We must seek the Lord (Truth).
We can follow what we 'think' is possible or we can (by faith (not in man but in God)); follow God who is limitless and not put up man-made boundaries of our own vain imaginings.
We must not limit the Limitless...That would be unwise.

God IS love. God IS truth etc.  Christ (literally) IS 'the way'.
Draw near to God and God will draw near to you.

Psalm 34:14
Turn from evil and do good; seek peace and pursue it.

Anyone who truly loves knows It's power to create, to give life and health and joy and peace and contentment and purpose and goodness.
They know Love's power to 'save' from fear, from bad habits, from a wasted life, from addictions, from ill health, from anxiety, from stress, from anger, from worry, from misery etc.
Everyone who loves knows God and needs no man to teach them.

People give power to evil. - If nobody obeys the devil; the devil has no power.  (Do not give the devil a foothold/resist the devil and he will flee from you etc).
And yet...Men blame the devil for their evils.

However:

2 Peter 2:10+
...Bold and arrogant, they are not afraid to heap abuse on celestial beings;
...These people blaspheme in matters they do not understand.

Joshua 24:15
choose you this day whom ye will serve

But, the world is waking up!
Hearts will be changed!
And the ending will be a good one.
For God (Love) is the ending.
Oh praise the LORD!!!  :HeartThrob:

[dash]

'someone, I cannot see, dive their's arm and hand in my lower left rib, it feel like when you put your hand in the glass of water "sloosh" you know what I mean, I felt my liquid inside me bring sploosh and I felt someone's hand inside me and I felt this strange enegry inside me flowing around in my chest area and i was frighten and a voice (not a voice but more a message or telepahy inside my head said "Everything will be all right, it will be okay" and I was calm and felt peace and back to sleep'

What ICEDASH said about the 'lower left rib' interests me...
I will look into this. 
I'd love to hear your opinion or a word from the Lord on this Andrew and others?

[jugghead]

'someone, I cannot see, dive their's arm and hand in my lower left rib, it feel like when you put your hand in the glass of water "sloosh" you know what I mean, I felt my liquid inside me bring sploosh and I felt someone's hand inside me and I felt this strange enegry inside me flowing around in my chest area and i was frighten and a voice (not a voice but more a message or telepahy inside my head said "Everything will be all right, it will be okay" and I was calm and felt peace and back to sleep'

What ICEDASH said about the 'lower left rib' interests me...
I will look into this. 
I'd love to hear your opinion or a word from the Lord on this Andrew and others?

I am one who thinks outside the box and when I read "lower left rib" the first thing that popped into my head was "upper right rib", in a sense, opposites, whereas the "lower left rib" is the first Adam and the "upper right rib" is the last Adam.

upper = most high
right = seated at the right hand of God
rib = part of the structure (skeleton) that helps us stand upright

what else came to mind was with the "slooshing"
water = spirit (our own)
energy = Spirit (His)[life]

in other words, the energy being life (His Spirit) ONE with ours

just some of my thoughts

[dash]

'someone, I cannot see, dive their's arm and hand in my lower left rib, it feel like when you put your hand in the glass of water "sloosh" you know what I mean, I felt my liquid inside me bring sploosh and I felt someone's hand inside me and I felt this strange enegry inside me flowing around in my chest area and i was frighten and a voice (not a voice but more a message or telepahy inside my head said "Everything will be all right, it will be okay" and I was calm and felt peace and back to sleep'

What ICEDASH said about the 'lower left rib' interests me...
I will look into this. 
I'd love to hear your opinion or a word from the Lord on this Andrew and others?

I am one who thinks outside the box and when I read "lower left rib" the first thing that popped into my head was "upper right rib", in a sense, opposites, whereas the "lower left rib" is the first Adam and the "upper right rib" is the last Adam.

upper = most high
right = seated at the right hand of God
rib = part of the structure (skeleton) that helps us stand upright

what else came to mind was with the "slooshing"
water = spirit (our own)
energy = Spirit (His)[life]

in other words, the energy being life (His Spirit) ONE with ours

just some of my thoughts

Super, very similar thoughts to mine on this!

I considered such verses as these:

2 Sam 2:23
Howbeit he refused to turn aside: wherefore Abner with the hinder end of the spear smote him under the fifth rib, that the spear came out behind him; and he fell down there, and died in the same place: and it came to pass, that as many as came to the place where Asahel fell down and died stood still.

2 Sam 3:27
And when Abner was returned to Hebron, Joab took him aside in the gate to speak with him quietly, and smote him there under the fifth rib, that he died, for the blood of Asahel his brother.

2 Sam 4:6
And they came thither into the midst of the house, as though they would have fetched wheat; and they smote him under the fifth rib: and Rechab and Baanah his brother escaped.

2 Sam 20:10
But Amasa took no heed to the sword that was in Joab's hand: so he smote him therewith in the fifth rib, and shed out his bowels to the ground, and struck him not again; and he died. So Joab and Abishai his brother pursued after Sheba the son of Bichri.

According to some online sources:
The number 5 (fifth rib?) symbolizes God's grace, goodness and favor toward humans. 
Multiplied by itself is 'grace upon grace' (John 1:16).

However the fifth rib is in the upper section.
It is located around the heart by the looks of it.
The fifth rib seems to indicate a good spot for a death blow.
I wonder if ICEDASH was undergoing a 'death' and new life in some sense? (Though his was in a lower rib).  (Unfortunately he wasn't specific about what rib it was exactly). 

If it was at his front and the lowest rib it would have been the 10th rib.
In the Bible, the number 10 is used 242 times. The designation "10th" is used 79 times. Ten is also viewed as a complete and perfect number, as is 3, 7 and 12. It is made up of 4, the number of the physical creation, and 6, the number of man. As such, 10 signifies testimony, law, responsibility and the completeness of order.
In Genesis 1 we find the phrase "God said" 10 times, which is a testimony of His creative power. God gave the 10 Commandments to man. Ten therefore represents man's responsibility to keep the commandments. A tithe is a 10th of our earnings and is a testimony of our faith in the Lord.

If it was at his lowest back rib, it would have been the 12 rib.
Which indicates: Twelve can be found in 187 places in God's word. Revelation alone has 22 occurrences of the number. The meaning of 12, which is considered a perfect number, is that it symbolizes God's power and authority, as well as serving as a perfect governmental foundation. It can also symbolize completeness or the nation of Israel as a whole.

I will continue to look into this!

Blessings to you too!

[dash]

Just to summarize some things to make this easier...

ICEDASH said it was his 'lower left rib'.
I will assume he meant his 'front' rib (but it is just an assumption (but most people when referring to their rib mean their front rib)).

So:

Lower
Left
Front
(10th) Rib

10 signifies (in brief) testimony, law, responsibility and the completeness of order. which definitely corresponds to what ICEDASH was speaking of. 

In summary of relevance:-

a voice (not a voice but more a message or telepahy inside my head said "Everything will be all right, it will be okay" and I was calm and felt peace and back to sleep
and then I woke up.....I was shocked and I never felt that way before in my life, I told my wife that everything will be okay, I felt God did this whole "NWO" or "evil thing" happen because he the creator and he also the story-maker, he make this life the way he see fit, I told my wife that we have to trust God what the earth is about to come.
I believe God promises everything will be all right, even those lost souls and some evil people will be saved but their's work will be destory in the fire...

Jugghead I like what you said about the 'stirring' and agree.
I thought about the angel stirring the healing waters:

John 5:4
for an angel of the Lord went down at certain seasons into the pool and stirred up the water; whoever then first, after the stirring up of the water, stepped in was made well from whatever disease with which he was afflicted.

I also thought about when Jesus was pierced in his side... (rib).

I will look into it more soon.

[darryl]

thank you everyone, and yes, I believe God promises everything will be all right, even those lost souls and some evil people will be saved but their's work will be destory in the fire and might lose memory of who they are, that the price of being evil, I am glad I am able to remember who am I because I am just fine what I am and who am I, I am proud of being God's creation and hopefully people happy what they have what God gave them.

thank you too !  :dsunny: it's really good that you believe His promises, same here  !... :dsunny:....may I say though, I don't believe 'evil' people will lose memory of who they were.....the Rich Man didn't in Luke  16 and his actions were 'evil'...

the question might be asked what's the point of existing in this world at all if  we forget who we were ?..if God performs a lobotomy on us if we are 'evil', where will He draw the line at how 'evil' we have to be before he causes us to forget who we were ? ....

I also believe people in the next life somehow will learn from the evil they do in this life...I know that sounds ultra positive but it does give meaning to the infliction of evil on others.

ultimately,  maybe folks will come to terms with what they were/who they were in this life....after a period of repentance/dealing with their victims/ cleansing and forgiveness, postmortem....anyway, God bless !  :dsunny:

[rosered]

  I believe you are on to somthing  Darryl

  God is a consuming fire
  the fire  purifies  , anyone going though the fire will be cleansed of all unrighteousness, Jesus Christ was prepared for this  before hand and made  to order .

  making ready a resurrected  Holy One , Able to make all things new and holy bringing in  many sons into His glory , hid inside Christ

I do not think evil can survive in Gods presence at all, thus the meaning of the Son of GOD  coming in the flesh to  advocate and be the mediator  on our behalf   

  given Him all  authority over everything , the Word made  a glorified flesh  incorruptible , just ONE OF A KIND ,  making things right with God and than present HIMSELF  to  God to be all in all 

  1 Cor 15

  I believe after one literally dies  in the body  that was made for death  and only a very short time , because of evil becoming so prevalent has shortened the days of physical  existence  from Adam .

a man was given a thousand years  more or less and now its only 70 years more or less .


Because the spirit could not endure  such torment of Gods anger for ever and would fail


   Isaiah 57 Healing for the Repentant


?15For thus says the One who is high and lifted up, who inhabits eternity, whose name is Holy:


?I dwell in a high and holy place, and with the oppressed and humble in spirit, to restore the spirit of the lowly and revive the heart of the contrite.

16For I will not accuse you forever, nor will I always be angry;

for then the spirit of man would grow weak before Me, with the breath of those I have made.


17I was enraged by his sinful greed, so I struck him and hid My face in anger; yet he kept turning back to the desires of his heart.?

  of all the Holy things  God has given us  to be trampled upon  ,    God is being robbed , will He put up with this forever ?


the soul of that breath    and its spirit grows weak   because of sin  and Gods wrath against sin , the demonic  adversary, it is a spirit in a man  that comes from the tree of the knowledge of good and evil desires ,we all have eaten from , born into it and do not know  the difference  between the two,  till Gods wisdom mixed with understanding  though experience teaches us right from wrong  , learning the truth and the truth  shall set us free from sin /evil and its fruit being death.

when we are weak  and beggarly and dying   and come to the end of the pride of life[ourselves ]  and our desires of the heart change towards God  , than will things change for us in a blink of an eye !!

 

[dash]

I agree.
Forgiveness is not just forgiving others.
It is also forgiving ourselves and moving on...Overcoming, rather than bathing in self-pity and inaction.
Now is a day of salvation...Set the captive free.

[rosered]

I agree.
Forgiveness is not just forgiving others.
It is also forgiving ourselves and moving on...Overcoming, rather than bathing in self-pity and inaction.
Now is a day of salvation...Set the captive free.

Amen ! amen !  totally hate the pity parties  ! I have learned to trust God in the death of all we have known and even the unknown before us
  I have seen so many not being able to get over the loss of a loved one  and they  are stuck  in a terrible torment
  I believe that is what the sleeping for sorrow means   in the scriptures or in drunkenness/ wrath    instead of being alert/sober  and praying .   

This is not your typical  song , but I find it  relative  in so many ways  so many young people struggling to find the truth in  Gods  Love in today  in a mad , mad world   praying  , doubting and suffering .

   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v-Dur3uXXCQ

[dash]

I agree.
Forgiveness is not just forgiving others.
It is also forgiving ourselves and moving on...Overcoming, rather than bathing in self-pity and inaction.
Now is a day of salvation...Set the captive free.

Amen ! amen !  totally hate the pity parties  ! I have learned to trust God in the death of all we have known and even the unknown before us
  I have seen so many not being able to get over the loss of a loved one  and they  are stuck  in a terrible torment
  I believe that is what the sleeping for sorrow means   in the scriptures or in drunkenness/ wrath    instead of being alert/sober  and praying .   

This is not your typical  song , but I find it  relative  in so many ways  so many young people struggling to find the truth in  Gods  Love in today  in a mad , mad world   praying  , doubting and suffering .

   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v-Dur3uXXCQ

Nice song! 
When I feel like pitying myself i remember...

...And they stoned Paul and dragged him out of the city leaving him for dead.
...And he rose and re-entered the city!

:laugh:
That's how it's done.

Preach the word; be instant in season, out of season; reprove, rebuke, exhort with all longsuffering and doctrine.
But watch thou in all things, endure afflictions, do the work of an evangelist, make full proof of thy ministry.
I have fought a good fight, I have finished my course, I have kept the faith:
Henceforth there is laid up for me a crown of righteousness, which the Lord, the righteous judge, shall give me at that day: and not to me only, but unto all them also that love his appearing.
At my first answer no man stood with me, but all men forsook me: I pray God that it may not be laid to their charge.
Notwithstanding the Lord stood with me, and strengthened me; that by me the preaching might be fully known, and that all the Gentiles might hear: and I was delivered out of the mouth of the lion.
And the Lord shall deliver me from every evil work, and will preserve me unto his heavenly kingdom: to whom be glory for ever and ever. Amen.

Just in passing he says he was 'delivered out of the mouth of the lion'...Considering it barely even worth mentioning...

This is a nice song Rose:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0QNmAcicM04

[tm55]

"Whatever God does is done in Love, and therefore '[all] shall be well, and all shall be well, and all manner of thing shall be well.'"

https://www.tentmaker.org/biographies/julian.htm

[dash]

"Whatever God does is done in Love, and therefore '[all] shall be well, and all shall be well, and all manner of thing shall be well.'"

https://www.tentmaker.org/biographies/julian.htm

Julian of Norwich is one that slipped me by, I will read this.
Thank you.