God's Glory is NOT Brought About By "Forced Worship" or Eternal Suffering

[Tim B]

ISAIAH 45:23:

23By Myself I have sworn, Gone out from my mouth in righteousness hath a word, And it turneth not back, That to Me, bow doth every knee, every tongue swear [allegiance].

PHILIPPIANS 2:10-11

10that at the name of Jesus every knee should bow,
      in heaven and on earth and under the earth,
11and every tongue confess that Jesus Christ is Lord,
      to the glory of God the Father.

1 JOHN 4:8

... God is love.

1 CORINTHIANS 13:5

It [love] is not rude, it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs.

If Love is NOT self-seeking (1 Cor. 13), then NO glory can come to God by "forced worship" (because forced worship IS SELF-SEEKING) or His throwing people into an eternal hell hole to suffer for an infinite period of time (because the opposite of self-seeking is other-serving and eternal torment serves NO MAN ANY GOOD). If God had forced worship or had to infinitely torture anybody, then he would displeased, because this is NOT for their benefit, and how can you really be glorified if you're displeased with the "glory" being brought to you?

ONLY heart-felt worship that brings peace to the worshipper will ever glorify God. ONLY by blessing others, in other words, freeing them from their sin and working ALL things for their good, will true glory be brought to God. Interesting too, that only in such conditions, by freeing people from their sins, may God receive TRUE worship by non-self-seeking worshippers (who wish to bring HIM glory)!!

Hope this message is understandable...

[Seth]

Are you referencing the fact that every knee will bow and tongue confess is not a forced worship upon those who will eventually still be tortured forever? That's the claim many ETers make. That view sure doesn't reconcile with the fact that all dead in Adam will be made alive in Christ by God being all in all.  :thumbsup:

[Tim B]

Are you referencing the fact that every knee will bow and tongue confess is not a forced worship upon those who will eventually still be tortured forever? That's the claim many ETers make. That view sure doesn't reconcile with the fact that all dead in Adam will be made alive in Christ by God being all in all.  :thumbsup:

lol Yep, that's what I'm talking about. Maybe I should add that to my message to make it clear. Thanks!

[Seth]

Good works, Tim B. Amen.  :thumbsup: :HeartThrob:

[Zero7]

Tim, excellent post. Very clear to me. UR in a nut shell. :thumbsup:

[Cardinal]

 :cloud9: Works for me........ :thumbsup: Blessings.....

[sheila]

  heartily agree! no need to force..He that is LOVE knows

  how to woo her.