If 'eternal' isnt in the bible....

[sven]

Off-topic question, but what words do the original texts use?  You know, not the Greek translation, but the original Hebrew or whatever language the New Testament was originally written in?  I tend not to follow the Greek version because of the numerous translation errors...

the Hebrew word claimed to mean everlasting, is olam, the Aramaic and Syrian words seem to be the same. I think basically all scholars agree that olam doesn't mean everlasting, this is plain evident from the use of this word in the OT.

[WhiteWings]

Off-topic question, but what words do the original texts use?  You know, not the Greek translation, but the original Hebrew or whatever language the New Testament was originally written in?  I tend not to follow the Greek version because of the numerous translation errors...

NT is written in Koine Greek
OT is written in Hebrew + a little armiac

I wouldlike to add that olam is translated as aion in the LXX. That means that according the translators that lived before Jesus was born olam means eon.
Bibles translated from the LXX seem to have much less error than other translations.
http://www.tentmaker.org/forum/index.php?topic=3320.0

[gregoryfl]

I use the Aramaic Pecrapta for my "New Testament", and it consistently uses Olam as well.

[sven]

@ gregoryfl, do you speak Aramaic/Syrian?; stupid language filter when one wants to write Pes*hitta the forum makes pecrapta  :laughing7:

I've read that in the Pes*hitta even the Greek word for generation has been translated with "olam", "Whence eternity" from Alexander Thompson is a great article.

[gregoryfl]

@ gregoryfl, do you speak Aramaic/Syrian?; stupid language filter when one wants to write Pes*hitta the forum makes pecrapta  :laughing7:

I've read that in the Pes*hitta even the Greek word for generation has been translated with "olam", "Whence eternity" from Alexander Thompson is a great article.

LOL. Thanks for pointing that out. I looked at what I typed and was like,  :mshock: I actually started to think that God directed me to subconsciously mystype that word.  :laughing7:

I do not speak it, but I am familiar with it as a student. I use it along with my Hebrew scriptures as my primary source material for the OT and NT.

Hmm, the Pesheeta  :winkgrin: uses the Aramaic word שרבתא, or a derivative of it, in each of the 43 occurrences I have found the word "genea," so am not sure where the idea came from that "olam" in Aramaic is the equivalent of "genea." For example, here is Col 1:26, where both "aionios" and "geneos" are used. I have provided a base translation of each Aramaic word. Notice the bolded green words, our words in question:

ארזא(secret) הו(that) דמכסי(which hidden) הוא(was) מן(from) עלמא(imperceptible) ומן(and from) דרא(generations) השא(now) דין(but) אתגלי(has been unveiled) (to set apart ones of him)לקרישוהי

Compare that with the Greek and it shows that "OLaM" is equivalent with "aionos" and "D'aRaA" is equivalent with "genea."

Ron

[HartleyDamboiseII]

Try this thought:

Take out the time issue from forever or eternal???

What is left...

The resurrection brought life with no end to all...

where you go, what you do, what you think, what's your reason for being??

It is All God... God is All... We are God-in-Humanity

Lee Damboise II  "my thoughts"

[sparrow]

nm.