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Started by Tim B, August 06, 2009, 08:39:04 AM

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1 Peter 4

Living for God

1Therefore, since Christ suffered in his body, arm yourselves also with the same attitude, because he who has suffered in his body is done with sin. 2As a result, he does not live the rest of his earthly life for evil human desires, but rather for the will of God. 3For you have spent enough time in the past doing what pagans choose to do—living in debauchery, lust, drunkenness, orgies, carousing and detestable idolatry. 4They think it strange that you do not plunge with them into the same flood of dissipation, and they heap abuse on you. 5But they will have to give account to him who is ready to judge the living and the dead. 6For this is the reason the gospel was preached even to those who are now dead, so that they might be judged according to men in regard to the body, but live according to God in regard to the spirit.
7The end of all things is near. Therefore be clear minded and self-controlled so that you can pray. 8Above all, love each other deeply, because love covers over a multitude of sins.

This, to me, sounds like it says that men will be judged for their works in the flesh (aka their body's), but God will make them alive in spirit.

It's interesting to note that "judged" in this verse is kriqwsin/krinO (which I'm wondering if it's the same thing as "krisis) and "alive" is zwsin/zaO (which I'm guessing is "zoe").

Your guys' thoughts? And anybody know anything about the Greek used for "judged" and "life" in these verses, that would know if my translations are correct? (I got the Greek translation info here: http://www.scripture4all.org/OnlineInterlinear/NTpdf/1pe4.pdf)


Beloved Servant

I pray for all who read these lines, a Spiritual discernment of the Living God and that no flesh may enter.

Seth

Quote from: Tim B on August 06, 2009, 08:39:04 AM
1 Peter 4

Living for God

1Therefore, since Christ suffered in his body, arm yourselves also with the same attitude, because he who has suffered in his body is done with sin. 2As a result, he does not live the rest of his earthly life for evil human desires, but rather for the will of God. 3For you have spent enough time in the past doing what pagans choose to do—living in debauchery, lust, drunkenness, orgies, carousing and detestable idolatry. 4They think it strange that you do not plunge with them into the same flood of dissipation, and they heap abuse on you. 5But they will have to give account to him who is ready to judge the living and the dead. 6For this is the reason the gospel was preached even to those who are now dead, so that they might be judged according to men in regard to the body, but live according to God in regard to the spirit.
7The end of all things is near. Therefore be clear minded and self-controlled so that you can pray. 8Above all, love each other deeply, because love covers over a multitude of sins.

This, to me, sounds like it says that men will be judged for their works in the flesh (aka their body's), but God will make them alive in spirit.

It's interesting to note that "judged" in this verse is kriqwsin/krinO (which I'm wondering if it's the same thing as "krisis) and "alive" is zwsin/zaO (which I'm guessing is "zoe").

Your guys' thoughts? And anybody know anything about the Greek used for "judged" and "life" in these verses, that would know if my translations are correct? (I got the Greek translation info here: http://www.scripture4all.org/OnlineInterlinear/NTpdf/1pe4.pdf)



I see this:

Galatians 6:17
From henceforth let no man trouble me: for I bear in my body the marks of the Lord Jesus.

Colossians 1:24
Who now rejoice in my sufferings for you, and fill up that which is behind of the afflictions of Christ in my flesh for his body's sake, which is the church

1 Peter 4:13
But rejoice, inasmuch as ye are partakers of Christ's sufferings; that, when his glory shall be revealed, ye may be glad also with exceeding joy.

Philippians 3:10
That I may know him, and the power of his resurrection, and the fellowship of his sufferings, being made conformable unto his death;


The judgment is according to MEN. As Christ said, if they hated you, they hated him first. If the world hates you, they judge you in regard to your body, but in those partakings of suffering, you live in regard to the Spirit, and by the same obedience unto death that Christ had, and brought with him when he entered into you.

Tim B

Quote from: Seth on August 06, 2009, 09:02:14 AM
Quote from: Tim B on August 06, 2009, 08:39:04 AM
1 Peter 4

Living for God

1Therefore, since Christ suffered in his body, arm yourselves also with the same attitude, because he who has suffered in his body is done with sin. 2As a result, he does not live the rest of his earthly life for evil human desires, but rather for the will of God. 3For you have spent enough time in the past doing what pagans choose to do—living in debauchery, lust, drunkenness, orgies, carousing and detestable idolatry. 4They think it strange that you do not plunge with them into the same flood of dissipation, and they heap abuse on you. 5But they will have to give account to him who is ready to judge the living and the dead. 6For this is the reason the gospel was preached even to those who are now dead, so that they might be judged according to men in regard to the body, but live according to God in regard to the spirit.
7The end of all things is near. Therefore be clear minded and self-controlled so that you can pray. 8Above all, love each other deeply, because love covers over a multitude of sins.

This, to me, sounds like it says that men will be judged for their works in the flesh (aka their body's), but God will make them alive in spirit.

It's interesting to note that "judged" in this verse is kriqwsin/krinO (which I'm wondering if it's the same thing as "krisis) and "alive" is zwsin/zaO (which I'm guessing is "zoe").

Your guys' thoughts? And anybody know anything about the Greek used for "judged" and "life" in these verses, that would know if my translations are correct? (I got the Greek translation info here: http://www.scripture4all.org/OnlineInterlinear/NTpdf/1pe4.pdf)



I see this:

Galatians 6:17
From henceforth let no man trouble me: for I bear in my body the marks of the Lord Jesus.

Colossians 1:24
Who now rejoice in my sufferings for you, and fill up that which is behind of the afflictions of Christ in my flesh for his body's sake, which is the church

1 Peter 4:13
But rejoice, inasmuch as ye are partakers of Christ's sufferings; that, when his glory shall be revealed, ye may be glad also with exceeding joy.

Philippians 3:10
That I may know him, and the power of his resurrection, and the fellowship of his sufferings, being made conformable unto his death;


The judgment is according to MEN. As Christ said, if they hated you, they hated him first. If the world hates you, they judge you in regard to your body, but in those partakings of suffering, you live in regard to the Spirit, and by the same obedience unto death that Christ had, and brought with him when he entered into you.


Hmm, that makes sense.

Seth

Yeah, especially when you look at the very first sentence of the quoted passage: "Therefore, since Christ suffered in his body, arm yourselves also with the same attitude"