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Started by Curly, April 17, 2009, 05:22:32 PM

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martincisneros

14But God forbid that I should glory, save in the cross of our Lord Jesus Christ, by whom the world is crucified unto me, and I unto the world.
15For in Christ Jesus neither circumcision availeth any thing, nor uncircumcision, but a new creature.
16And as many as walk according to this rule, peace be on them, and mercy, and upon the Israel of God.
17From henceforth let no man trouble me: for I bear in my body the marks of the Lord Jesus.
18Brethren, the grace of our Lord Jesus Christ be with your spirit. Amen. (Galatians 6:14-18 KJV)


14 Now may it not be mine to be boasting, except in the cross of our Lord Jesus Christ, through which the world has been crucified to me, and I to the world.
15 For in Christ Jesus neither circumcision nor uncircumcision is anything, but a new creation.
16 And whoever shall observe the elements by this rule, peace be on them, and mercy, also on the Israel of God.
17 For the rest, let no one afford me weariness, for I am bearing in my body the brand marks of the Lord Jesus Christ.
18 The grace of our Lord Jesus Christ be with your spirit, brethren! Amen! (Galatians 6:14-18 Concordant)

peacemaker

Quote from: WhiteWings on April 19, 2009, 12:32:33 AM
QuoteSo, tell me, are we to worship the cross or the living Savior?

Bit of a trick question.
Surely we must not worship a cross itself because that are just a few pieces of wood.
I think the worship (of the cross) is about what it symbolizes.
Depending on the religion it symbolizes different things.
- Sun worship
- Satanism
- The works of Jesus


Indeed, but I was thinking along these lines:

Jesus answered him, "It is written, 'YOU SHALL WORSHIP THE LORD YOUR GOD AND SERVE HIM ONLY.'"

And Jesus returned to Galilee in the power of the Spirit, and news about Him spread through all the surrounding district.

And He began teaching in their synagogues and was praised by all.

And He came to Nazareth, where He had been brought up; and as was His custom, He entered the synagogue on the Sabbath, and stood up to read.

And the book of the prophet Isaiah was handed to Him. And He opened the book and found the place where it was written:

"THE SPIRIT OF THE LORD IS UPON ME,  BECAUSE HE ANOINTED ME TO PREACH THE GOSPEL TO THE POOR. HE HAS SENT ME TO PROCLAIM RELEASE TO THE CAPTIVES,  AND RECOVERY OF SIGHT TO THE BLIND, TO SET FREE THOSE WHO ARE OPPRESSED,  TO PROCLAIM THE FAVORABLE YEAR OF THE LORD."

And He closed the book, gave it back to the attendant and sat down; and the eyes of all in the synagogue were fixed on Him.

And He began to say to them, "Today this Scripture has been fulfilled in your hearing." (Luke 4:8, 14-21)

martincisneros

Yeah, the Cross symbolizes what God did at the Cross:

15 Who is the Image of the invisible God, Firstborn of every creature,
16 for in Him is all created, that in the heavens and that on the earth, the visible and the invisible, whether thrones, or lordships, or sovereignties, or authorities, all is created through Him and for Him,
17 and He is before all, and all has its cohesion in Him.
18 And He is the Head of the body, the ecclesia, Who is Sovereign, Firstborn from among the dead, that in all He may be becoming first,
19 for in Him the entire complement delights to dwell,
20 and through Him to reconcile all to Him (making peace through the blood of His cross), through Him, whether those on the earth or those in the heavens. (Colossians 1:15-20)

WhiteWings

Quote from: peacemaker on April 19, 2009, 01:08:51 AM
Jesus answered him, "It is written, 'YOU SHALL WORSHIP THE LORD YOUR GOD AND SERVE HIM ONLY.'"

Quote from: martincisneros on April 19, 2009, 01:25:08 AM
Yeah, the Cross symbolizes what God did at the Cross:

Good that you two wrote that. I wanted to mention it too but thought it was kinda 'not done'
Don't worship the Son but the Father only.
That makes me think why the religion is called Christ-ianity. And not something more directly linking to God Himself.
Pehaps it's because the meaning of words/names is (somewhat) lost in translation.
1 Timothy 2:3-4  ...God our Savior;  Who will have all men to be saved...
John 12:47  And if any man hear my words, and believe not, I judge him not: for I came not to judge the world, but to save the world.
Romans 4:5 But to the one who does not work, but believes in the one who declares the ungodly righteous ...

sparrow

Geeeez.

Hope Curly decides to actually stay and post.

:msealed:

reFORMer

Maybe we're to blame...Maybe he's the victim of a hyperglossial intimidation.

WhiteWings

Quote from: sparrow on April 19, 2009, 07:22:45 AM
Geeeez.

Hope Curly decides to actually stay and post.

:msealed:


He or she visited the forum an hour ago. Lets hope that continues.
1 Timothy 2:3-4  ...God our Savior;  Who will have all men to be saved...
John 12:47  And if any man hear my words, and believe not, I judge him not: for I came not to judge the world, but to save the world.
Romans 4:5 But to the one who does not work, but believes in the one who declares the ungodly righteous ...

Nathan

Hey Curly, if we haven't chased ya away yet . . .and the conversation tweaked your interest in where the cross actually originated . . .may I suggest that you looked up the word "laminin" in any dictionary that also has pictures . . .it'll blow your mind . . .the cross has been around (in this realm) since the creation of man.