Jesus was God's Son before being born by Mary

Started by Tony N, January 31, 2009, 12:53:35 PM

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Hi Abbachild,

QuoteI get this and I totally respect your view, but can one honestly say then that the Father sent His Son - as we read so many times, especially in John's Gospel account?! Just curious how you would interpret this...

I consider what "form" Christ has in heaven. And what relation is there between the Father and his Word. Were they equal in understanding, experience and authority? Did/do they have a father to son relationship?

When you close your eyes and imagine the Father, Son and Holy Spirit in heaven what picture do you see?

Tony N

Quote from: Brian on February 20, 2009, 01:35:43 AM
Quote from: Tony N on January 31, 2009, 12:53:35 PM
Pro 30:4 Who has ascended the heavens and descended? Who has gathered the wind in both His hands? Who has tied up the waters in a garment? Who has confirmed all the limits of the earth? What is His name, and what is His Son's name, in case you know?

Thanks Tony. I remember posting this same question quite a while ago, and it disappearing.
Maybe I didn't word it correctly or whatever. But at the time I was looking for an OT reference to the Messiah, referring to Him as the Son of God in this way. Of course I can't see where that would infer He was a created being before being born by Mary, but that's another issue. I seriously doubt I'll find a creditable commentary not attributing this as a Messianic verse.


That's a tuffy. I wonder if Isaiah might have something concerning the messianic scriptures if any of them speak of Him being a Son of God?

Of course Peter said that the prophets had the spirit of Christ (i.e. Messiah) and they prophesied concerning Him, so I wonder if David's prophecy: "My Son art Thou, I today have begotten Thee" might have intimations to the Messiah in the O.T.?

Psa 110:1 A Davidic Psalm The averring of Yahweh to my Lord:Sit at My right Until I should set Your enemies as a stool for Your feet.

Yahweh said to my Adoni and so David's Lord or Adoni is the Messiah?

Though this passage may not help in your request, I think it continues the topic of this thread:

Pro 8:29 When He established for the sea its statutory limit, So that the waters may not pass beyond His bidding, When He delineated the foundations of the earth."
Pro 8:30 Then I was beside Him as His foster child, And I was filled with bliss day by day, Gamboling before Him all the time,

Tony
Just because God says He will save all mankind
does not necessarily mean He won't.