authority

[Zeek]

 
1Cr 15:24 Then [cometh] the end, when he shall have delivered up the kingdom to God, even the Father; when he shall have put down all rule and all authority and power. 


what is the authority that is put down? 

[martincisneros]

I've personally always read that as wicked spirits in heavenly places because the language of the passage has some similarity to Ephesians 6 in mentioning rulers and powers.

[Taffy]

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The Power Over Death DEATH,....

kinda runs along with those who SAT in MOSES seat .  :icon_flower:
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[MacPherson]

I've personally always read that as wicked spirits in heavenly places because the language of the passage has some similarity to Ephesians 6 in mentioning rulers and powers.

Wow. That is a very interesting take. Me likey.

[Zeek]

1Cr 2:6 However, we speak wisdom among those who are mature, yet not the wisdom of this age, nor of the rulers of this age, who are coming to nothing.

1Cr 2:7 But we speak the wisdom of God in a mystery, the hidden wisdom which God ordained before the ages for our glory,

1Cr 2:8 which none of the rulers of this age knew; for had they known, they would not have crucified the Lord of glory.

1Co 15:56  The sting of death is sin; and the strength of sin is the law.

G1411
δύναμις
dunamis
doo'-nam-is
From G1410; force (literally or figuratively); specifically miraculous power (usually by implication a miracle itself): - ability, abundance, meaning, might (-ily, -y, -y deed), (worker of) miracle (-s), power, strength, violence, mighty (wonderful) work.

authority
G1849
ἐξουσία
exousia
ex-oo-see'-ah
From G1832 (in the sense of ability); privilege, that is, (subjectively) force, capacity, competency, freedom, or (objectively) mastery (concretely magistrate, superhuman, potentate, token of control), delegated influence: - authority, jurisdiction, liberty, power, right, strength.

strenth/power, authority under law, the authority to define oneself in the precedence of types and figures, a covenant with death:

Isa 28:15  Because ye have said, We have made a covenant with death, and with hell are we at agreement; when the overflowing scourge shall pass through, it shall not come unto us: for we have made lies our refuge, and under falsehood have we hid ourselves:



the powers to come:



Phl 3:10 that I may know Him and the power of His resurrection, and the fellowship of His sufferings, being conformed to His death,


Heb 6:5  and tasted the good word of God, and the powers of the age to come,


Heb 9:11  But Christ having come a high priest of the good things to come, through the greater and more perfect tabernacle, not made with hands, that is to say, not of this creation,

Heb 10:1  For the law having a shadow of the good things to come, not the very image of the things, can never with the same sacrifices year by year, which they offer continually, make perfect them that draw nigh.

Mat 28:18 And Jesus came and spoke to them, saying, "All authority has been given to Me in heaven and on earth.

Hbr 8:13 In that He says, "A new covenant," He has made the first obsolete. Now what is becoming obsolete and growing old is ready to vanish away.

[Zeek]

:icon_flower:

The Power Over Death DEATH,....

kinda runs along with those who SAT in MOSES seat .  :icon_flower:
:icon_flower:

:thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

[Cardinal]

 :cloud9: He hands over the kingdom (the kingdom of God is in you) to His Father after all rule, authority and power of the wicked one (tares) has been put down IN US. Blessings...

[Zeek]

:cloud9: He hands over the kingdom (the kingdom of God is in you) to His Father after all rule, authority and power of the wicked one (tares) has been put down IN US. Blessings...

for me, coming from a fulfilled (old covenant fulfilled in HIM) view, that authority and power of the wicked one has been put down.

there is no more authority, it is fulfilled in HIM.   


For me, the question is does what happened from Genesis to Revelation through Israel serve as a beginning point for the same to take place in each individual? 


or

a realization of a completed revelation. The revelation of Jesus Christ, fulfilled


In other words, is our growth/discovery an outworking of revelation or a realization of fulfilled revelation.

IMO, the carnal mind had power under law, in the precedence of types and figures. 

It's not that there is no longer a carnal type thinking, but that the carnal mind has no standing. There no "law" to support it. Death cannot spread to all men only the illusion of it.

The authority of "sin" was a tool to get us from point "a" to point "b" in history. Now point "a" is behind us. Now we are learning to move on from "a" in our minds, yes. But that is still very different from still being in point "a".



some things i'm personally working through,

blessings.

[Cardinal]

For me, the question is does what happened from Genesis to Revelation through Israel serve as a beginning point for the same to take place in each individual? 
or a realization of a completed revelation. The revelation of Jesus Christ, fulfilled

In other words, is our growth/discovery an outworking of revelation or a realization of fulfilled revelation.

IMO, the carnal mind had power under law, in the precedence of types and figures. 

It's not that there is no longer a carnal type thinking, but that the carnal mind has no standing. There no "law" to support it. Death cannot spread to all men only the illusion of it.

The authority of "sin" was a tool to get us from point "a" to point "b" in history. Now point "a" is behind us. Now we are learning to move on from "a" in our minds, yes. But that is still very different from still being in point "a". some things i'm personally working through, blessings.

:cloud9: You know I think it's both. The law runs side by side with grace until every jot and tittle be fulfilled, IN US. This is why some see law, others see grace; both are correct, and all things have to be reconciled. Good points.  :thumbsup: Blessings....

[CHB]

In other words, is our growth/discovery an outworking of revelation or a realization of fulfilled revelation.

I think it is the realization of fulfilled revelation. Just like the whole world will be saved but most just don't know it yet.

CHB