Atheism is a non-prophet organization

[WhiteWings]

Atheism is a non-prophet organization.

  :2c:

[martincisneros]

Unfortunately, it shares that in common with most of the Christian world. :mshock: :dontknow:

[rosered]

 

I dont know Martin  I have seen alot of Profit /prophet  in the organzied Church system  in my day ..  :Whistle:   hummm lol.....
good one WW  ..  :laughing7:

[ChuckK3]

Well, thanks to the late great Madalyn Murray O'Hair, the atheists actually have a fellowship and a "church" so to speak.  Also I have read that O'Hair was an ordained minister in the Universal Life Church (a certificate mill actually.  Pay something like $20.00 and you can be ordained.  It's all legal too strangely enough. Your personal beliefs are irrelevant as far as membership qualifications are concerned.).

Chuck

[martincisneros]

Well, thanks to the late great Madalyn Murray O'Hair, the atheists actually have a fellowship and a "church" so to speak.  Also I have read that O'Hair was an ordained minister in the Universal Life Church (a certificate mill actually.  Pay something like $20.00 and you can be ordained.  It's all legal too strangely enough. Your personal beliefs are irrelevant as far as membership qualifications are concerned.).

Chuck

Actually, their ordinations are free, but the payment is for a credential to hang on your wall or to stick in your wallet.  These days, that's mostly just postage and handling when you think about it.  I know a lot of legit ministries that have begun through the ULC.  It gave them the ability to do weddings and even hospital visitations under the primary chaplain of the hospital, etc.  Ordinations are analogous to conversions in revival meetings.  Something that's none of the state's business in the United States.  I think that my first ordination was ULC.  Allowed me ministry experience with my AKC papers to where now I'm ordained through the Baptists.  Try to get ordained some places and all they wanna know is if you've either got your Masters of Divinity or of Theology and how many years of ministry experience you've had under another ministry.  They're offering a course of studies and ordination through the Christian Universalist Association.  Charles Slagle tried to encourage me to go that route, but I don't wanna go through that again.  I'm ordained by multiple Churches and by a denomination.  That's enough for me.  The only time it's ever important is to get in as a volunteer crisis counselor or to perform weddings.  I'm not into doing weddings and I've been too busy recently for working in the hospitals.  Beyond that, Ordination's not all of that practical, unless you're persuing working with an already established ministry.  It's like a darn highschool diploma that no one ACTUALLY asks you for when you leave that level of schooling.  You get asked about your college degrees and your proof of identification, but even fast food places won't ask for a photo copy of your Highschool diploma if you were to ask for a job there.  Ordination's about the same.  Cool to have it, and it's one of those "just in case" they won't let you in somewhere without it, but if I had it to pursue again, I wouldn't bother.  I'd just ask a small list of folks with proven ministries to write me a recommendation letter for something I'd want to do.  In some ways, that seems to carry more weight because of people like the Atheist queen you mentioned having an ordination.  But I personally never frown on anyone with an ordination or where they got it.  I just hope they're using it for something practical where that sheet of paper would be asked for, or where not having it could genuinely be a road block for them.

[ChuckK3]

Well, thanks to the late great Madalyn Murray O'Hair, the atheists actually have a fellowship and a "church" so to speak.  Also I have read that O'Hair was an ordained minister in the Universal Life Church (a certificate mill actually.  Pay something like $20.00 and you can be ordained.  It's all legal too strangely enough. Your personal beliefs are irrelevant as far as membership qualifications are concerned.).

Chuck

Actually, their ordinations are free, but the payment is for a credential to hang on your wall or to stick in your wallet.  These days, that's mostly just postage and handling when you think about it. 

Martin,

   I stand corrected on those ordinations being given free of charge.  There are copycat organizations that do charge for the ordination however, and they even offer you any level you want in any scope of religion, from a Jewish Rabbi, to even a Catholic Priest.  I do question how legit they are seeing that the Jewish and Catholic faiths respectively would not recognize them as legit, but from a legal standpoint, that would be a different matter.

Chuck