Universal Salvation, the Real Power of the Resurrection.

[Reverend G]

It is a custom among the Jews to tear their clothing to signify that they have disowned someone.  The robes of the Father are perfect, without a single tear, for he will never disown one of His own children. 
Jesus came to reinforce that aspect of the Father. To know this truth is to live here on earth with His hand in yours. It is up to us to take this hand or let it go.  But He will never give us up in eternity.

[Cardinal]

 :cloud9: It was also a symbol of grief over the death of someone.......thus the veil was rent. I'm sure this symbolism was not lost on the Jewish leaders of the day........

[Reverend G]

Great Point Cardinal.  My prayers go out to your daughter as well.

[Mickiel]

Human beings are really " Symbionts", because our Consciousness is living in a state of being with our bodies. Now God is a Symbiont, which is not the topic of this thread, but he has at least 8 levels of Consciousness that I have counted in scripture , which I think is awesomely amazing. We are flesh, that is one organism, our Consciousness is " Spirit", that is another living organism, and we live in close relationship with our bodies, that is a " Symbiosis", two different organisms living together in close relationship. And I will show you what this has to do with the resurrection.

But first let me say this, really the expression " God is A Spirit", is incorrect, because God is not a singular Spirit. It is more correct to say God " Has A Spirit", although he has more. God is A Spirit being, but he is not " A" Spirit, If by " A", you mean singular. Now you can say God " is" Spirit, and that be correct.  God cannot be condensed to any singularity except to say that he is the only one that is like he is. God is " One", meaning its only one being like him, nothingelse, including Christ, is exactly like God " Overall", I say overall because Jesus shares exactness with his Father in some ways, but not all of his ways. And that is another topic of intrest.

Now why would God create humans as Symbionts? Well back to the Garden of Eden, and you must excuse me for going back and forth to the events in Eden so much, its just that there is an awful lot of information stored in Eden. When you go to a friends house and go with them to see their garden outside , they will show you what they are growing, it is a history of their forthcomming menu, what they plan on eating or consuming. Its no different with a vist to Gods garden in Eden, only what God grew, he planned on humanity to consume it.

The symbiont relationship was established in the garden of Eden when God planted, or created and established in one Tree ( or human society) two different organisms that must now exist in the same society. Two entirely different concepts that must live inside of the mind of man. Thats 4, count it thats four. Our human consciousness, thats one, our human bodies, thats two, the concept of Good, thats three and the concept of Evil, thats four. Two organisms existing inside of each other with two major concepts existing inside of them, look at the reality of this creation.

This was preplanned confusion from the get. A very purposeful design that tends to wear down to Death. Mankind was designed to wear down and Die. And God preplanned our Resurrection. So the Resurrection of humanity was preordained, because our Death was preordained. And this very simply means that Salvation itself was preordained, there can be no other correct deduction. So the resurrection is best explained through the concept of Universal Salvation.

And I want to go into that.

Peace.

[Mickiel]

Now I want you to look at the the 3rd day of creation in Genesis 1:9-13, in it is a detailed explination of how God created water, plants and vegetation that had " Sprouted", meaning they were growing and active. Everything was bearing fruit and revegating themselves and spitting out more " Seeds." Now look at Genesis 2:1, all prior events in creation had been concluded. God had finished, and this includes the creation of both male and female humans in 1:26-28. But look at Gen.2:5;" Now no shrub of the field was yet in the earth, no plant of field had yet sprouted, for God had not yet sent rain to the earth and there was no man to cultivate the ground."

Well now Gen.2:5 seems to contridict 1:9-13, and it is a direct contridiction, totally oppisite. So something happened that is not explained here. And I believe what happened is best explained by Archaeology and human Consciousness. Archaeology undenialibly shows an age of humanity that had both prehistoric man and animals. And our technology proves that the age of the earth is far beyond the 6,000 plus years that many bible believers have adjusted to. There then must have been a period between Genesis 1 and Genesis 2, where God created both animals, vegatation and humans that he discontinued their existance before he created Adam. Adam was created inside of a " Garden", a fixed environment that was seperate from the rest of the earth, because they were " Put out of it". So that man that God created had absolutely nothing to do with the earth or prior humans created before him. I believe when God placed Adam and Eve into the Earths environment, all other " Ages" that the earth had went through, were now finished, including the Ice Age.

And I want to go further into this as it relates to the Resurrection.

Peace.

[Mickiel]

Now the " Ice Age" was just another way for God to kill the inhabitants of the  earth without killing the earth. I believe he used the Ice Age to rid the earth of prehistoric animals, of the humans with no consciousness and of pre Adamic vegitation. Putting it on Ice so to speak, preserving only what he willed to survive.

I was amazed to see all the stages that the earth has been through in its history. Just to name a few; Precambrian, Ordovician, Silurian, Carboniferous, Permian, Triassic, Jurassic, Ecene and Miocene, and all these were before the Ice Age. Each age lasting millions of Years. Did you know our Universe is estimated to be at least 4.5 billion years old? There is so much that God has done that we just do not understand.


God took the earth through stages, he is taking humanity through stages, and the resurrection is a very important stage. And it relates to the Salvation of all.

Peace.

[Mickiel]

Now this is why the beliefs of some hold no credibility. Here we have an earth that is closer to 3.8 billion years old, and a universe that is around 4.5 billion years old, then we have certain believers in God who are teaching that the earth is just over 6,000 years old. Instead of dealing with reality and letting reality spur their study of God and his word, they would rather jam something other than the truth into their minds, and think that knowledge should be built on such a foundation as that. Thats not going to correctly fit.

Faith needs to be used in areas that facts cannot help, but if the facts are there, then no faith is needed. Some believers think that facts hold no relevance in the search for truth, that is incorrect reasoning. Now can we prove, outside of Gods word, that Jesus was resurrected? No, we cannot, so Faith and belief is needed there. Faith then becomes the evidence for the believers trust in the Resurrection. Now we cannot give others this evidence, did we give it to ourselves? But neither can we deny their " Evidence", and try to fit Gods word into our preconceived molds.

So I want to go into the things that believers are putting out, that actually do damage to Christ Resurrection and our belief in the Salvation of all.

Peace

[Mickiel]

I wanted to go through a few things that I think does damage to the doctrine of Universal Salvation.

1. It does damage to the belief in the Salvation of All, when you really don't believe it yourself. Because of your double mindedness, because you have " Too many minds", you then are really expressing that through your own doubt. You are just further spreading your own double mindedness, because you are not fully convinced yourself. Imagine a person walking into a room of people who are confused, they don't know what to do, what to believe. If the person who walks in does not know what to do or what to believe, they just add to the confusion.

2.  It does damage to the belief of the Salvation of all, when we inter-mix it with our own doctrines of belief that are in error themselves. When you take in a New belief, and try to mix it with Old beliefs, its like putting old wine in a new bottle, the fermation is going to be ruined. Gods word of truth only matures in the direction that it is meant to grow into. When the Truth is mixed with deception, its power is lost, because the deception will ruin its maturity.

3. We damage the reception of the Salvation of All when we purposely try to " Horde it to ourselves", put the spotlight on ourselves and uplift the annointing of receiving such knowledge by now living with an inate " Superior Aittitude", which manifest itself and shows much more than you think it does. I think this is the number one reason why the message of the Salvation of all is rejected by people, because of the aittitude they see in the message bearer.

4. One of the strongest dilutions or " Watering Down of the Great message of Universal Salvation" that I am aware of is the " Throwing off of Gods Timetable".  Our tendency to misplace the things of God in their sequence, and through our personal desires and Coveting, just throw off the time involved in the things of God. We tend to bring things down from heaven too early, or we seem to think our beliefs controls when God will Act and when he will give.

I want to go into the Resurrection as it relates to the " Transfiguration" of Jesus.

Peace.

[Mickiel]

In Matt.17:1-12, Jesus takes Peter, James and John his brother with him high up into the mountians and is " Transfigured" right in front of their eyes. This means his " Apperance was changed" to an elevated glorified state. Now I am under the belief that human eyes cannot see a " Spirit glorified being", but in vs.9 Jesus tells them to " Tell the " Vision" to no one." So this was a Vision shown to the diciples. With visions one can hardly tell the difference between reality and symbolic images being shown. Because the two worlds are colliding.

This was a very powerful display, and it is recalled in 2Pet. 1:15-18. What I want you to think about, in relation to the Resurrection, is the " Quickness involved" in this display of power. Jesus was changed instantly, and recall where the bible states that some will be changed in the " Twinkling of an eye", or less than a second. The Resurrection takes up no time at all, which means God can change anything using no time elapsed, if he so chooses. What would be harder for God to do, to change your nature, or to change your entire existence from flesh to Spirit? By harder, I only mean which would require him to expend more energy, because nothing is too hard for him to do.

In closing this out, the Resurrection is the last great Power extended by God to change humanity, and it will take no time at all. It will be instantly done. The time that God is investing in us while we yet live in our flesh, is where the time is really being spent. The Salvation of humanity has invested time, but the change will be instant. The resurrection was instant, the glorified results will be instant. The Real Power of the Resurrection is instant, and Universal Salvation is an instant result of Christ Glorification.

Peace.