Rev Vision & the what, how, why? of what God is doing & proves UR

[marie glen]

Brief weekly readings/study

Book of Revelation Study
  June, wk.1 🍃🏢🍒(eve)
    ~~ Revelation 6:1-4 ~~
The Book of Revelation is the disciple John telling the vision he recieved from Jesus.
     ?I watched as the Lamb opened the first of the seven seals? which were upon the scroll, which scroll, is the Revelation vision.
     Therefor, this is where the apocalypse/revelation vision begins. It begins with the four horsemen of the apocalypse. The first one is our friend!
     ?When He opened the seal I heard one of the four living creatures saying, as a voice of thunder, ?Come!?
   I looked, and behold, a white horse! And its rider had a bow, and a crown was given to him, and he came out conquering, and to conquer.?
     There is however shadow riders of this one. But the original white horse rider ?triumphed over powers and principalities, making a show of them - deigmatiz?: exposed (them) openly? (Col.2:15).
     Vs.4 - ?And when He opened the second seal, I heard the second living creature saying, ?Come!? And out came another horse, bright red. Its rider was permitted to take peace from the earth, so that people should slay one another, and he was given a great sword.? Obviously this is man?s constant unwanted companion, war. It is given a great sword.
     Here we can see the entire nature of the seal is described at its introduction - think, especially, ?fat man and little boy? in 1945.
     - There are seven seals upon the Revelation scroll.
     - Within the 7th seal, is seven trumpets. So the 7th seal is the seven trumpets.
     - And in the 7th trumpet, are seven bowls/cups/pitchers. So the 7th trumpet is the seven cups.
     (Continued next week.)

An outline for reference - the apocalypse/revelation/unveiling vision is told 3 times: [#1] 6:1-2 to 11:19, [#2] ch.12, but vs.17 needs Mt.23:39, and [#3] 13:1 to 19:11


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[marie glen]

Book of Revelation Study
  June, wk.2 🍃🏢🍒(eve)
    ~~ Revelation 6:5-8 ~~

Which apocalypse begins/began at the first wayward thought because the prime element is Life (God) and ?is perfect? - has to be or would fade away too..

1. The black horse and rider
     When the Lamb broke the third seal upon the scroll, I heard the third living creature say, ?Come!? I looked up and saw a black horse, and its rider was holding a pair of scales in his hand.
     And I heard what sounded like a voice from among the four living creatures, saying, ?You will pay a days wages for a loaf of bread, but do not harm the oil and wine (luxuries).?
  2. The pale horse and rider
      And when the Lamb opened the fourth seal, I heard the voice of the fourth living creature say, ?Come!?
     And I looked, and behold, a pale horse! And its rider?s name was Death, and the grave (mass) followed him. (A 1st at WW1?) And they (death and the grave) were given authority over a fourth of the earth (of people) to kill with sword/war, and with famine, and with pestilence (including chemical, etc.) and by wild beasts of the earth. (Beasts are used to symbolize and represent human governings. I?ve long wondered about the ?wild? ones.)

[marie glen]

    ~~ Revelation 6:9-17 ~~
(Hopefully most will not be this lengthy. :sigh:
5th Seal, also called the third horseman of the apocalypse.
    Verses, 6:9-11 - ?And when He opened the fifth seal, I saw under the altar the souls of those having been slain because of the word of God, because of their testimony.?
     - All but one of Jesus?s disciples were executed. This has been going on in many different lands pretty much down through the centuries since.
     ?Soul? is the Greek word - psyxḗ "to breathe, blow" which is the root of the English words "psyche," "psychology" ? soul (psyche); a person's distinct identity (unique personhood), i.e. individual personality.
     ?They cried out with a loud voice, ?Lord, the one who is holy and true, how long until you judge and take vengeance of our spilled blood upon the earth?'
     They were each given a white robe and told to rest for a while and to wait until the number is complete of the Lord's other servants and followers who would be killed.? (The entire seal and entire number considered.)
    Verses, 6:12-17 - ?And I saw when He opened the sixth seal, and there was a great earthquake, and the sun became black as sackcloth of hair? (like gauze?) ?and the whole moon became like blood? (red/reflecting red?) ?and the stars in the sky fell to earth, like figs dropping from a fig tree when shaken by a strong wind.?
     The stars appear to fall to the very earth.. This is during earthquake.
     ?The sky was rolled up like a scroll? (great roiling?) ?and every mountain and island was moved.. Then the kings of the earth and the great ones and the generals and the rich and the powerful, and everyone, slave and free, hid themselves in the caves and among the rocks of the mountains. They called to the mountains and the rocks, ?Fall on us and hide us from the face of him who sits on the throne and from the wrath of the Lamb! because the great day of their wrath has come, and who is able to stand?"
     I remember bomb shelters coming about.. This description is at the beginning of the vision, but I believe and am very convinced, that the entire and total effect of the element is told here.
     The whole seal described, start to finish. I believe the first occurrence was the bombing of Hiroshima and Nagasaki. ? The very next verses are a vision of four angels, at the four corners of the Earth - north, south, east, west - holding back the winds.. that earth, sea and tree not be harmed.. until..
     I think God?s ?wrath? is cause and effect, how He built a cause and effect universe ? if the option to stray/imperfection had been absent from Eden, then surely, all thinking and reasoning ability would have had to be left out as well. ? 6000 years of things running their course (the yearlong flood aged things) followed by a 7th millennium, a Sabbath, aFter which is a final war with the released from the abyss (released from being locked away in the abyss of imperfection) adversary, called Satan. War to a fiery conclusion.
     Then there is an ?aion/eon of kolasis/korrection/correction? - thus all this occurs upon an ?8th? day/millennium, ?the last great day? - a great day of review of all history (surely?) (Jn.7:37 being a glimpse of - ?whosoever thirsts let them come to the waters? - yet also, the outside-of the vision narrative, of Rev.22, being a description of the INITIAL conditions of SOME (few?) ? Like the setting of the parable of the rich man and Lazarus.
     The ?Great White Throne? ?day? of judgment/review/discernment being the second half of that ?8th day?. (This pattern is portrayed by the pattern of the ancient Hebrew holy days, listed in Lev.23. and no I did not read that in a book, nor see it in a video. As far as I know it remains unseen.)
     Technical: Three Fall - long 2nd advent - holy days ? [1] trumpets (of Rev. and Jesus? return at the last - 10days/100yrs to [2] Day of Atonement, 5days/500yrs to - [3] Tabernacles - Rev.21:5, 2Pet.3:12-13, Isaiah 11:7.

[marie glen]

~~ Revelation 7:1-17 ~~
     1 ?After this? (first seal 6 event) ?I saw four angels standing at the four corners of the earth, holding-back the four winds of earth in order that a wind might not blow on the land, nor on the sea, nor against any tree.?

Last night?s (waking up) middle of the night musing - Logic/Reality - 101 ? All matter is moving toward falling apart, so cannot have always been, but there can not have ever been nothing, as something/everything cannot come from nothing. The prime element from which all something/everything came from, must be perfect, or it (too) would fade away. Therefor whatever purpose is being acted out can only result in a perfect, a.k.a., best possible outcome, as ?perfect? can make no mistake(s) and to lose anything, could not be said to be ?perfect?.
     Fading away/apocalypse begins (and began) with the first straying from perfection in thought, word or deed. Biblically we are (still) at Rev.7:1 and 3. (And 9, then 4 -> Mt.23:39). But which (holding back) is bound to be interrupted for the - dog eat dog/self first - imperfection (a.k.a. final world domination) to be grasped. Then later ?when you see? Israel?s holy place removed/taken away (Mt.24:1-2) ?1,290 days later is set up? the final, all ecompassing imperfection named triple 6. (Six is the number of man.) ?Blessed/happy are those who wait and come to 45 days later? Dn.12:11-12.

Verse 2 And I saw another angel coming-up from the rising of the sun, having a seal of the living God. And he cried-out with a loud voice to the four angels.. saying ?Do not harm the land, sea nor the trees UNTIL we seal the servants of God upon their foreheads?. (The interruption of the winds being held back, is noT the full blown seal 6 at ?the end?.) 4 And I heard the number of the ones having been sealed, one-hundred forty four thousand (counted!) having been sealed from every tribe of the sons of Israel..
    ?9 And after these things I saw, and behold? there was a great multitude, which, no one was able to number (count) from eveRy nation and tribe, people, and tongues, before the throne and before the Lamb.. ..they are before the throne of God, and they are serving Him by day and by night.. And the One sitting on the throne will dwell over them. 16 They will not hunger nor thirst.. nor will the sun harm them, nor aNy scorching-heat. 17 Because the Lamb at the center of the throne will shepherd them, and guide them to living springs of water. And God will wipe-away every tear from their eyes?.

[darryl]

deep insight.bit perplexed  bout the all the question marks though ?.

[marie glen]

deep insight.bit perplexed  bout the all the question marks though ?.

I know right!? It?s a glitch between my iphone/pocket computer and the forum.‍ For awhile I took out the quotation marks and whatever the half quotation mark is, which turn up as the ?s, but it got to be too much work.. lol.

[marie glen]

Revelation 8:1-6

(1) And when He opened the seventh seal, there was silence in heaven for about half an hour. (2) And I (disciple John) saw the seven angels who stand before God, and seven trumpets were given to them. (3) Another angel, with a gold incense burner, came and stood at the altar. He was given a large amount of incense to offer with the prayers of God's people on the gold altar in front of the throne. (4) The smoke of the incense, mixed with the prayers of God?s people, rose before God from the hand of the angel. (5) Then the angel filled the incense burner with fire from the altar and threw it on the earth, and there were peals of thunder, rumblings, flashes of lightning, and an earthquake. (6) And the seven angels having the seven trumpets prepared themselves, that they might sound the trumpets [Berean Literal Version]. (New Living Translation - Then the seven angels with the seven trumpets prepared to blow their mighty blasts.)
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[Song]

deep insight.bit perplexed  bout the all the question marks though ?.

I know right!? It?s a glitch between my iphone/pocket computer and the forum.‍ For awhile I took out the quotation marks and whatever the half quotation mark is, which turn up as the ?s, but it got to be too much work.. lol.

I have encountered the same glitch as well! When I type something in a Word Document and paste it in, it looks normal. But after submitting, all of the quotation marks (") and possessive marks (') turn into question marks. It's quite odd.

It is (it's) why sometimes I have to type without any possessives lol.

[marie glen]

deep insight.bit perplexed  bout the all the question marks though ?.

I know right!? It?s a glitch between my iphone/pocket computer and the forum.‍ For awhile I took out the quotation marks and whatever the half quotation mark is, which turn up as the ?s, but it got to be too much work.. lol.

I have encountered the same glitch as well! When I type something in a Word Document and paste it in, it looks normal. But after submitting, all of the quotation marks (") and possessive marks (') turn into question marks. It's quite odd.

It is (it's) why sometimes I have to type without any possessives lol.

And then sometimes it doesn?t! Lol so odd.. A challenge when you quote a lot of verses. Seems to do it with pasting and not pasting.. If i remember right.. :gsmile: