The Greek word "pas" and its use

[bmayo]

I was recently challenged with the following interpretation of the Greek word "all" and it interpretation. I have no training in the Greek or Hebrew. The so called "expert" gave me the following info and I would like some input on whether it is legit. ?The word ( all) in 1cor 15:28 -3956 p?s ? each, every; each "part(s) of a totality" (L & N, 1, 59.24).

3956 /p?s ("each, every") means "all" in the sense of "each (every) part that applies." The emphasis of the total picture then is on "one piece at a time." 365 (anane?ō) then focuses on the part(s) making up the whole ? viewing the whole in terms of the individual parts.

[When 3956 (p?s) modifies a word with the definite article it has "extensive-intensive" force ? and is straightforward intensive when the Greek definite article is lacking.] this word does not mean ( all), as in everybody in the world. All flesh means, some black, some white, some yellow, some brown, some black.some out of each nation on earth. All men is in Greek ( pas- means all- and anthropos- means men. If it meant all men in the world that ever existed it would negate ( rom 9:22, 2 Peter 2:12, Jude 4.?

[marie glen]

I think John 12:32 is a good verse for this, when Jesus said - ? Berean Literal Bible
And I, if I am lifted up from the earth, will draw all to Myself."
or,
King James Bible
?And I, if I be lifted up from the earth, will draw all men unto me.?

Here?s a word by word translation with links to the original words used and their meanings, followed by a link to the word ?pas? -

Jn.12:32 - https://biblehub.com/interlinear/john/12-32.htm

?pas: all, every?
?Usage (which means translated as): all, the whole, every kind of? - I think the primary meaning is ?every, all, the whole?. But of course it in some circumstances cAn mean ?every kind of? and I would think context should shine some light on that.

It seems to me humans (translators) seem to like to run with some meanings of words, like ?kolasis? - ?correction? as its most extreme possible usage - punishment. But why would all correction be punishment? We are being corrected now (during ?what?s called today? and it?s far from all being ?punishment?!

Or aion/eon as forever? It cAn be aion to aion, etc.. But always forever? (and ever?)

Pas - https://biblehub.com/greek/3956.htm

Another good verse of course is 1Tim.4:10 - ? For to this we toil and strive, because we have hope on the living God, who is the Savior of all men, especially of believers.?

But my favorite verses for UR/CU clarity are how the Lord said - ?These (not yet saved/still wild weeds) will rise into aionian-kolasis *AGE*LASTING-CORRECTION? (translated, everlasting punishment, oiye) ?but the righteous into aionian life? (into ?the thousand years?/millennium age)- Matthew 25:46. And we know by Rev.20 that the still wild weeds rise ?after the thousand years?. (And I?m pretty sure it?s in the pattern of the Fall holy days of Leviticus 23.)
:Peace2: :gsmile:

[marie glen]

And welcome! I didn?t realize this is your first post! God bless!! :hiya:

[FineLinen]

I was recently challenged with the following interpretation of the Greek word "all" and it interpretation. I have no training in the Greek or Hebrew. The so called "expert" gave me the following info and I would like some input on whether it is legit. ?The word ( all) in 1cor 15:28 -3956 p?s ? each, every; each "part(s) of a totality" (L & N, 1, 59.24).

3956 /p?s ("each, every") means "all" in the sense of "each (every) part that applies." The emphasis of the total picture then is on "one piece at a time." 365 (anane?ō) then focuses on the part(s) making up the whole ? viewing the whole in terms of the individual parts.

[When 3956 (p?s) modifies a word with the definite article it has "extensive-intensive" force ? and is straightforward intensive when the Greek definite article is lacking.] this word does not mean ( all), as in everybody in the world. All flesh means, some black, some white, some yellow, some brown, some black.some out of each nation on earth. All men is in Greek ( pas- means all- and anthropos- means men. If it meant all men in the world that ever existed it would negate ( rom 9:22, 2 Peter 2:12, Jude 4.?

My friend: welcome to the finest Tent on planet Earth. We trust your sojourn with us will be a rewarding experience.

In short, pas radically means all. Nothing is negated, although there are those who desire to soften the scope. LOL

https://tentmaker.org/forum/word-studies/all/

[WhiteWings]

1Cor 15:22 For as in Adam all die, so also in Christ all will be made alive.

This verse is about the great reversal.
Everyone seems to agree Adam doomed all. Not "3956 /p?s ("each, every") means "all" in the sense of "each (every) part that applies."
100% of everything. Not like a few black people from city A, some white people from country B, some women from church C, etc.


That verse is part of what could be called a victory speech. The victory is "well I managed to reclaim 10 of the 100 lost sheep."?
Is that really the  correct understanding of the Greek?
1Cor 15:22 Adam doomed 108 billion* people and Christ saved 10% of them all over the place.

*=number of people that ever lived according to science

https://radical-reaction.com/shepherdsvoice/30x%20All.htm
https://radical-reaction.com/shepherdsvoice/Welcome.htm

[darryl]

1Cor 15:22 For as in Adam all die, so also in Christ all will be made alive.

This verse is about the great reversal.
Everyone seems to agree Adam doomed all. Not "3956 /p?s ("each, every") means "all" in the sense of "each (every) part that applies."
100% of everything. Not like a few black people from city A, some white people from country B, some women from church C, etc.


That verse is part of what could be called a victory speech. The victory is "well I managed to reclaim 10 of the 100 lost sheep."?
Is that really the  correct understanding of the Greek?
1Cor 15:22 Adam doomed 108 billion* people and Christ saved 10% of them all over the place.

*=number of people that ever lived according to science

https://radical-reaction.com/shepherdsvoice/30x%20All.htm
https://radical-reaction.com/shepherdsvoice/Welcome.htm

1Cor 15:22 Adam doomed 108 billion* people and Christ saved 10% of them all over the place.

*=number of people that ever lived according to science....good point, WW !