administration of ages (?)

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marie glen

I was reading John, chapter 8, and came to verse 51 where the Lord says, "truly, truly, I say to you, if anyone keeps My word, he shall never see death, to the age."
      Many Bible versions leave out the last phrase "to the age".
        In the interlinear word for word translation with links to the original words - https://biblehub.com/interlinear/john/8-51.htm - the word "to" (the age) is #1519 "eis" - to or unto. As I was reading about "eis" - "to or into (indicating the point reached or entered, of place, time, fig. purpose, result).. (a preposition) – properly, into (unto) – literally, "motion into which" implying penetration ("unto," "union") to a particular purpose or result.. of a place entered, or of entrance into a place, into; and a. it stands before nouns designating an open place, a hollow thing, or one in which an object can be hidden.. etc."
       While I was reading that a strong image came to mind.. of stepping onto dirt.. stepping onto a patch of dirt worn flat like a path wears flat.
       I don't think John 8:51 means believers have now immortality. If all those who "die in their sins" "do not live again until after the thousand years" (Revelation 20:5; John 8:24) they will be dead unto or into that age.
      I could be wrong of course!
But the most important thing is those who "live not again until after the thousand years" are not being tortured in fire.. Indeed Jude 7 tells us what hellfire is (not a place but an event).
       "All in graves will come forth.. in a resurrection of eonian life, or of eonian correction (Gr. kolazo" Jn.5:28; Mt.25:46).
No hell. No lost.
      Jesus said, John 5:28-29 - "...all in the tombs" (graves) "will hear His voice and will come forth" (out of the graves/tombs) some "in the resurrection of life" - (which is at His return, Rev.20) and some in the resurrection of judgment" (which is "after the thousand years"/millennium, Rev.20)
     Considered WITH - 2 Peter 2:9 - "God knows how to preserve the unrighteous for CORRECTION/kolazo on 'day of judgment."
    AND, Matthew 25:45-46, "He will answer them, saying, 'Assuredly, I say to you, inasmuch as you did not do it to one of the least of these, you did not do it to Me.' And these will go away into aionian/agelasting kolazo, but the righteous into aionian life." — It's human (fallible) translators who translated "agelasting correction" into 'everlasting punishment' or sometimes 'everlasting condemnation or contempt' BUT according to what was ORIGINALLY "God breathed"/inspired, it should read "agelasting correction"
      ..I have to think much like some experience now during this age (?) after all, "a person cannot receive even one thing unless it is given him from heaven" - John 3:27.

The millennium / "thousand years" followed by "the judgment" - the one the Lord made mention of..

   
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rosered



  I can only see the ages in 3 stages    sis , as the  one to come  will be full of LIGHT AND KNOWLEDGE OF GOD as the SUN /SON  has victory over all  the world .  :dsunny: :HeartThrob:  1 Cor 15 .

as the first age was the  dark age  and sin stage in Adam , son of man being the corruptible image all have bore  as well as the incorruptible image  Jesus Christ  all men shall bear . , till the law of moses come and it was the light of the moon in stages  [full moon  and the blood moons with the over casting of blood red shed , as a sign of the times , new moon , no light just stars  shining in the dark places of our hearts and  , exposing the  good and evil  in every man and those also being born again
of GOD and as sons of God  doing the works of the HOLY SPIRIT .

Jesus Himself said 3 days in the heart of the earth , I believe HE IS AND WAS  and always will be  from the beginning before the foundation of the world  was,  HE WAS ,IS AND WILL ALWAYS BE THE LAMB OF GOD .

Matt 12 The Sign of Jonah
...39Jesus replied, "A wicked and adulterous generation demands a sign, but none will be given it except the sign of the prophet Jonah. 40For just as Jonah was three days and three nights in the belly of the great fish, so the Son of Man will be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth.

41The men of Nineveh will stand at the judgment with this generation and condemn it; for they repented at the preaching of Jonah, and now One greater than Jonah is here....

The last days are by His Son , hebrews 1 
The Supremacy of the Son
1On many past occasions and in many different ways, God spoke to our fathers through the prophets. 2But in these last days He has spoken to us by His Son, whom He appointed heir of all things, and through whom He made the universe. 3The Son is the radiance of God's glory and the exact representation of His nature, upholding all things by His powerful word. After He had provided purification for sins, He sat down at the right hand of the Majesty on high....

4So He became as far superior to the angels as the name He has inherited is excellent beyond theirs. 5For to which of the angels did God ever say: "You are My Son; today I have become Your Father"? Or again: "I will be His Father, and He will be My Son"?...

  we shall also bear this same image of GODS SON ?  Though the same incorruptible  seed being the Word of God made flesh ?
and live though the same Holy Spirit of truth and life

from the least to the greatest ?


  :dsunny: :HeartThrob:
Jesus is the reward  !!

marie glen

Amen! I came across the other day how "first" - "the Son is First(born)" - is the Greek word "proto" - doing this by memory, hope accurately.. Which I'm thinking of as confirmation of the idea that the Son is THE PROTOTYPE.

The technical dictionary meaning of prototype is - a first, typical or preliminary model of something, especially a machine, from which other forms are developed or copied.

And His Word says Father shall be all, in all. I've gotten to thinking if it as each person will be a "sort of" 'trinity' lol. Of Father Most High & His Spirit/Presence above all within each of us, then The Son Forever Lord, then the individual.. in comparison, a speck.. lol. :HeartThrob:
:Peace2: :girlheart: :HeartThrob: :HeartThrob:
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rosered





:dsunny: :HeartThrob: Amen , and  I do see everything in Christ !!


  I hope you and yours are doing well sis Marie!!!!!!!!!!    :HeartThrob:
Jesus is the reward  !!

marie glen

Thank you sister.. And you and yours.. :Pray: :HeartThrob:
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