What does all mean?

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FineLinen

March 19, 2019, 04:30:44 PM
Plan A or plan b minus?

"And I, if I be lifted up from the earth, will draw all men unto me."

plan b-

If I be lifted up from the earth I will draw some of mankind unto Myself.

I will drag off with power some of mankind.

I will try to lead off some of mankind, but will fail.

"As in Adam all die, so in Christ shall all be made alive"

plan b minus=

As in Adam all die, so in Christ shall some be made alive

"All have sinned and fallen short of the glory of God.."

plan b-

Some have sinned and fallen short of the glory of God...

"Therefore as by the offence of one judgment came upon all men to condemnation; even so by the righteousness of one the free gift came upon all men unto justification of life..."

plan b minus=

Therefore as by the offence of one judgment came upon some men to condemnation; even so by the righteousness of one the free gift came upon some men unto justification of life.

Yes friends there is more!

Does all mean all?

The radical πᾶς/pas.
Are our broadest hopes broad enough? Shall there be a nook or abyss, in all the universe of God, finally unlightened by the Cross? Shall there be a sin, or sorrow, or pain unhealed? Is the very universe, is creation in all its extent, a field wide enough for the Son of God?

MusicLover123

#1
March 19, 2019, 05:13:06 PM
Or Plan C

And I, if I be lifted up from the earth, will draw all men unto me, but most fell off in the process.

As in Adam all die, so in Christ shall all be made alive, but then most will die again.

All have sinned and fallen short of the glory of God, and His Glory is too short to save most of them.
John 1
14And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father, full of grace and truth.

marie glen

#2
March 19, 2019, 07:27:29 PM
Amen brothers!

pas = "all, every" and "the whole"!

..which is Plan A or A+ :laughing7: which actually makes more sense than minus anything concerning, 1 - God's Will, and 2 - His attributes and capabilities.. And 3 - His character!

He "is perfect" - a perfect or perfection that loses one thing.. is not perfect ..let alone if He were to lose 1/3 of His angels and 3\4 of mankind! :faint: ...nope, not possible.. The church receives its truth filtered through the hands of other persons.. and series of persons.. handed down what had been translated by medieval man which had roots in the nonhebraic world view.


I love the "all", especially as "the whole".. the whole of mankind through Adam, die. And the whole of mankind Jesus will draw to Himself.. And, Ps.22:27, "All -- Hebrew "3605 - kol - all, the whole" - earth will remember (Hebrew, come to their senses) and will turn (repent!) to the LORD, and all -- Hebrew "3605 - kol - the whole, all" - families of the nations before Him shall worship." :cloud9:

If only more would consider His attributes. What is the character of love? And what is the quality of perfection? Then perhaps more and more will see UR spelled out - quite clearly - in the scriptures, logos - "reasoning expressed in words" with Logos, truth personified in Jesus.

   :thumbsup: Amen!
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FineLinen

#3
March 19, 2019, 11:12:33 PM
πᾶς =ALL

Strong's #3956 — Adjective — pas — pas )

Radically means "all."

Used without the article it means "every," every kind or variety. So the RV marg. in Ephesians 2:21 , "every building," and the text in Ephesians 3:15 , "every family," and the RV marg. of Acts 2:36 , "every house;" or it may signify "the highest degree," the maximum of what is referred to, as, "with all boldness" Acts 4:29 .

Before proper names of countries, cities and nations, and before collective terms, like "Israel," it signifies either "all" or "the whole," e.g., Matthew 2:3 ; Acts 2:36 . Used with the article, it means the whole of one object.

In the plural it signifies "the totality of the persons or things referred to." Used without a noun it virtually becomes a pronoun, meaning "everyone" or "anyone."

In the plural with a noun it means "all."

One form of the neuter plural (panta) signifies "wholly, together, in all ways, in all things," Acts 20:35 ; 1 Corinthians 9:25 . The neuter plural without the article signifies "all things severally," e.g., John 1:3 ; 1 Corinthians 2:10 ; preceded by the article it denotes "all things," as constituting a whole, e.g., Romans 11:36 ; 1 Corinthians 8:6 ; Ephesians 3:9 .

Plan A=

"that IN/EN the name of Jesus every knee shall bow, in heaven and on earth and under the earth, and every tongue acknowledge that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father."

Alternate plan b minus

that IN/EN the name of Jesus every knee might bow, in heaven and on earth and under the earth,and every tongue might acknowledge that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the potential glory of God the Father.

Does all mean all?

The radical πᾶς/pas.
Are our broadest hopes broad enough? Shall there be a nook or abyss, in all the universe of God, finally unlightened by the Cross? Shall there be a sin, or sorrow, or pain unhealed? Is the very universe, is creation in all its extent, a field wide enough for the Son of God?

FineLinen

#4
March 22, 2019, 10:14:38 AM Last Edit: March 22, 2019, 10:18:01 AM by FineLinen
"We all must die and are like water spilled on the ground that cannot be gathered up again, but the Lord does not take away life, instead He devises ways for the banished to be restored."

All= the radical all

"Devise"=

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/devise

"Banish"=

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/banished

Restore=

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/restore

Yes friends, our God is the God of restoration.
Are our broadest hopes broad enough? Shall there be a nook or abyss, in all the universe of God, finally unlightened by the Cross? Shall there be a sin, or sorrow, or pain unhealed? Is the very universe, is creation in all its extent, a field wide enough for the Son of God?

rosered

#5
March 22, 2019, 01:15:28 PM
    :dsunny:    :HeartThrob:
Jesus is the reward  !!

FineLinen

#6
March 22, 2019, 02:20:43 PM Last Edit: March 22, 2019, 03:05:56 PM by FineLinen
"We all must die and are like water spilled on the ground that cannot be gathered up again, but the Lord does not take away life, instead He devises ways for the banished to be restored."

N.T. Restore=

Verb — apodidomi

Apodidomi=

To give back

To deliver.

"I restore" -Luke 19:8-

Apokathistemi

Apokathistemi=

Alternative form apokathistano

Restoration to a former condition of health.

Divine restoration.

Reclamation.

Verb — katartizo

Katartizo=

To mend.

To furnish completely.

To fit. To mend. to perfect.

Metaphorically, of the restoration by those who are spiritual, of one overtaken in a trespass, such a one being as a dislocated member of the spiritual body.

The tense is the continuous present, suggesting the necessity for patience and perseverance in the process.
Are our broadest hopes broad enough? Shall there be a nook or abyss, in all the universe of God, finally unlightened by the Cross? Shall there be a sin, or sorrow, or pain unhealed? Is the very universe, is creation in all its extent, a field wide enough for the Son of God?

FineLinen

#7
July 30, 2019, 04:06:12 PM
Dr.Robert Young

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Numerous Other Words In Biblical & Oriental Literature.

Dr. Robert Young Analytical Concordance

pa'ß =

All points, all men, all things. All, whole, completely. (1075 verses)

All = lk=

All, the whole, any, each, every, everything, totality. (24 passages)

All =lylk=

Entire, all. Complete, wholly. (15 verses)

All = br =

Multitudes/ abundance (149 verses)

All= o&loß =

All. Whole. Completely. (99 verses)

This is your mission for today, should you be willing to accept it... List the "many" Koine Greek scholars who maintain all does not mean all.

Koine Greek Scholars: All does not mean all =

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Why not start with the Greek-English Lexicon Of The New Testament by William F. Arndt & Wilbur Gingrich

PAS, pa'sa, pa'n gen. pantov", pavsh", pantov" (dat. pl. pa'si and pa'sin vary considerably in the mss.; s. W-S. §5, 28; cf. Rob. 219-21) (Hom.+; inscr., pap., LXX, En., Ep. Arist., Philo, Joseph., Test. 12 Patr.).

Are our broadest hopes broad enough? Shall there be a nook or abyss, in all the universe of God, finally unlightened by the Cross? Shall there be a sin, or sorrow, or pain unhealed? Is the very universe, is creation in all its extent, a field wide enough for the Son of God?
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