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marie glen

When Paul was blinded on the road, told to go to town and wait, then Ananias came and told him now he could see, and said, "'the God of our fathers has appointed you to know His will". I mean wow! (Acts 22:14)

Then later, Paul wrote much of our new testament! I'm curious if every one, or how many of his letters contain UR verses!
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jugghead

I myself would say that everything he wrote about is based upon it, simply because it is based on the LOVE of God for us and that is because we can love (not only God but others as well) BECAUSE He first loved us.

Love unites, which I believe is just another way to say "reconciles"

Blessings
Wisdom is not measured by time, it is measured by understanding

Justification Under God's Grace Having Every Answer Delivered

marie glen

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Dandelion

I think all of his epistles contain some verses confirming UR.

How about this one for starters........

Romans 8:38:

...37No, in all these things we are more than conquerors through Him who loved us. 38For I am convinced that neither death nor life, neither angels nor principalities, neither the present nor the future, nor any powers, 39neither height nor depth, nor anything else in all creation, will be able to separate us from the love of God that is in Christ Jesus our Lord....

D.
7"Ask, and it will be given to you; seek, and you will find; knock, and it will be opened to you. 8"For everyone who asks receives, and he who seeks finds, and to him who knocks it will be opened....

Matthew 7:7 -8

marie glen

   :thumbsup: Amen! Thank you.. That's what I'm wanting to do.. get a list put together, with the heading of Ananias' words.. This one will get me started!
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marie glen

 
When Paul was blinded on the road, told to go to town and wait, then Ananias came and told him now he could see, and said, "'the God of our fathers has appointed you to know His will". (Acts 22:14)

Then later, Paul wrote much of our new testament.

Romans 8:37,38: 
37No, in all these things we are more than conquerors through Him who loved us. 38For I am convinced that neither death nor life, neither angels nor principalities, neither the present nor the future, nor any powers, 39neither height nor depth, nor anything else in all creation, will be able to separate us from the love of God that is in Christ Jesus our Lord.…


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marie glen

#6
In my daily reading of the letters, right now, I am reading Colossians, so am starting there in my taking note of (hopefully) every UR verse - straight forward, and, implied.. Though I'd rather start with Romans, first listed or Glatians, believed to have been written first by Paul (though I guess 1 Thess. could also be first).

After -
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When Paul was blinded on the road, told to go to town and wait, then Ananias came and told him now he could see, and said, "'the God of our fathers has appointed you to know His will". (Acts 22:14)

Then later, Paul wrote much of our new testament!

Romans 8:37,38: 
37...in all these things we are more than conquerors through Him who loved us. 38For I am convinced that neither death nor life, neither angels nor principalities, neither the present nor the future, nor any powers, 39neither height nor depth, nor anything else in all creation, will be able to separate us from the love of God that is in Christ Jesus our Lord....

..though I know there's more verses in Romans, at least one like 1 Cor.15:22 "As in Adam all die, in Christ all live.."
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Colossians 1:20
The interlinear, I think, is important here - because the verse very often is translated as - ..and through Him to reconcile to Himself all things, whether things on earth or things in heaven, by making peace through the blood of His cross.

It seems to me, in the interlinear, there is no word "things" -- but to translators, it is thought to 'imply' all things, as the mindset was, surely God will not/can not save all?!


https://biblehub.com/interlinear/colossians/1-20.htm

https://biblehub.com/greek/3956.htm - word "pas" - primarily - all, every, and? the whole (I am tending to think translators think "of every kind" to be implied (because surely God can't mean "all, every, the whole"!)

- Contemporary English Version (imo, is more accurate, although, it should read simply "all") And God was pleased for him to make peace by sacrificing his blood on the cross, so that all beings in heaven and on earth would be brought back to God.
But if we want to include an implied, surely beings is more accurate than things! Is there any doubt imaginable, that God can bring all "things" back to God? And salvation being about His creatures, and not only about heaven and Earth.


P.S. -  all and any other verses are more than welcome :thumbsup: I plan/hope to put them in order when done (and will take a while, as my daily reading of the letters spans a year, and am mostly just adding as I go along.)
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Patinak

Glenda,
Gary and Michelle did a pretty thorough job with this website. Here is one of their lists:
http://www.tentmaker.org/lists/ReconciliationScriptures.html
Pat

marie glen

#8
 Thank you! It's a great list.. according to it, he wrote 30 UR verses, 33 if we believe he wrote Hebrews (which I do).

It's also a great quick reference to find where verses from the OT are quoted, where those are..

I also will consult Jabcat's list of 77.. But will also do it myself as a good study/and to better remember them - practice makes 'perfect'! As I figure I may as well, as I'm reading through the letters (annually) til I get back to Colossians, which is what I'm reading now. -- I read the letters in the order believed written (which really, for me, brings much to light reading in that order). And I will make, if all goes well, two lists one in order of the letters as in our NT, and one in the order it's believed he wrote them.

But you are right, this is an excellent list!

From the Tentmaker list -
I marked with *** straight forward UR verses (21/22 indisputable!!) but yet so missed :doh: ..others strongly support/ strongly imply..

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*** Rom 5:18-20   So then as through one transgression [Adam's] there resulted condemnation to all men, even so through one act of righteousness [Christ's] there resulted justification of life to all men. For as through the one man's disobedience the many were made sinners, even so through the obedience of the One, the many will be made righteous. And the Law came in that the transgression might increase; but where sin increased, grace abounded all the more!
[Ed., As J.B. Phillips so succinctly puts it, "Grace is the ruling factor!"]

Rom 8:19-21   For the anxious longing of the creation waits eagerly for the revealing of the sons of God. For the creation was subjected to futility, not of its own will, but because of Him who subjected it in hope, that the creation itself also will be set free from its slavery to corruption into the freedom of the glory of the children of God.

Rom 11:15   For if their rejection [i.e., the Jew's rejection of Christ] be the reconciliation of the world, what will their acceptance be but life from the dead?

Rom 11:25   For I do not want you, brethren, to be uninformed of this mystery, lest you be wise in your own estimation, that a partial hardening has happened to Israel until the fulness of the Gentiles has come in; and thus all Israel will be saved.

*** Rom 11:32,33   For God has shut up all in disobedience that He might show mercy to all. Oh the depth of the riches both of the wisdom and knowledge of God! How unsearchable are His judgments and unfathomable His ways!

*** Rom 11;36   For from Him [Christ] and through Him and to Him are all things. To Him be the glory forever. Amen.

Rom 14:4   Who are you to judge the servant of another? To his own master he stands or falls; and stand he will, for the Lord is able to make him stand.

Rom 14:11   For as it is written, "As I live", says the Lord, "every knee shall bow to me [ie. repentance], and every tongue shall give praise to God". [ie. worship]

I Cor 3:15   If any man's work is burned up, he shall suffer loss; but he himself shall be saved, yet so as through fire.

I Cor 5:4,5   In the name of our Lord Jesus, when you are assembled, and I with you in spirit, with the power of our Lord Jesus, deliver such a one to Satan for the destruction of his flesh, that his spirit may be saved in the day of the Lord Jesus. [See I Peter 4:6!]

*** I Cor 13:8   Love never fails.
[Ed., It bears repeating: "Love never fails!" God is love. His love can not fail! To lose even one would mean that love failed to find and save that one. To lose millions for eternity, as some believe, would mean that love failed miserably and completely! However, His plan, His purpose, His desire, and His nature has always been and always will be love for His creation!]

*** I Cor 15:22,28   For as in Adam all die, so also in Christ all shall be made alive. But each in his own order... [Ed., This phrase is the real key to understanding God's purposes in relation to His time schedule.] "And when all things are subjected to Him, then the Son Himself also will be subjected to the One who subjected all things to Him, that God may be all in all."
[Ed., Paul sees clearly to the end, and makes this ultimate and most concise declaration of the eternal purposes of God!]

I Cor 15:54   But when this perishable will have put on the imperishable, and this mortal will have put on immortality, then will come about the saying that is written, "Death is swallowed up in victory."
[Ed., "The last enemy to be destroyed is death" (I Cor 15:26)...This refers to all death, both physical death and spiritual death. Then the only thing that shall remain is...Life!]

II Cor 5:14,15   For the love of Christ controls us, having concluded this, that one died for all, therefore all died; and He died for all, that they should no longer live for themselves, but for Him who died and rose again on their behalf.

*** II Cor 5:18   Now all these things are from God, who reconciled us to Himself through Christ, and gave us the ministry of reconciliation, namely, that God was [Ed., and is] in Christ reconciling the world to Himself, not counting their trespasses against them, and He has committed to us the word of reconciliation.

*** Gal 3:8   And the Scripture, foreseeing that God would justify the nations by faith, preached the gospel beforehand to Abraham, saying, "All the nations shall be blessed in you."
[Ed., According to Paul, then, preaching the reconciliation of all is in fact preaching the gospel.]

***  Eph.1:9,10   He make known to us the mystery of His will, according to His kind intention which He purposed in Him with a view to an administration suitable to the fulness of the times, that is, the summing up of all things in Christ, things in the heavens and things upon the earth.

*** Eph. 1:22,23   And He put all things in subjection under His feet, and gave Him as head over all things to the church, which is His body, the fulness of Him who fills all in all.

Eph 3:8-11   To me [Paul]...this grace was given...to bring to light what is the administration of the mystery which for ages has been hidden in God, who created all things; in order that the manifold wisdom of God might now be made known through the church to the rulers and the authorities in the heavenly places. This was in accordance with the eternal purpose which He carried out in Christ Jesus our Lord.

* Eph 4:5,6   There is...one God and Father of all who is over all and through all and in all.

***  4:10   He who descended is Himself also He who ascended far above all the heavens, that He might fill all things.

*** Phil 2:9-11   Therefore also God highly exalted Him, and bestowed on Him the name which is above every name, that at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of those who are in heaven, and on earth, and under the earth, and that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father.
[Ed., Remember that "No one can say, 'Jesus is Lord,' except by the Holy Spirit." I Cor 12:3]

*** Phil 3;21   ...who will transform the body of our humble state into conformity with the body of His glory, by the exertion of the power that He has even to subject all things to Himself.

*** Col 1:19-22   For it was the Father's good pleasure for all the fulness to dwell in Him, and through Him to reconcile all things to Himself, having made peace through the blood of His cross; through Him, I say, whether things on earth or things in heaven. And although you were formerly alienated and hostile in mind, engaged in evil deeds, yet He has now reconciled you in His fleshly body through death, in order to present you before Him holy and blameless and beyond reproach.
[Ed., How could Paul state it any more clearly!]

** Col 3:11   Christ is all, and in all.
[Ed. All creation is birthed in Christ; all creation remains in Christ; but not all of creation has been awakened to Christ ("Awake, sleeper, and arise from the dead, and Christ will give thee light." Eph 5:14)]

I Tim 1:13   Even though I [Paul] was formerly a blasphemer and a persecutor and a violent aggressor, yet I was shown mercy, because I acted ignorantly in unbelief.
[Ed., If the prerequisite for mercy is ignorance and unbelief, then who will fail to qualify?]

*** I Tim 1:15   Christ Jesus came into the world to save sinners, among whom I [Paul] am foremost.
[Ed., Again, if Paul is the foremost sinner, then hasn't God's plan of redemption been accomplished to the foremost?]

*** I Tim 2:5,6   For there is one God, and one mediator also between God and men, the man Christ Jesus, who gave Himself as a ransom for all, the testimony to be borne at the proper time.
[Ed., An alternate translation reads: "to be testified (lit."witnessed") in due times..."(ie. "each in his own order"...I Cor 15:22)]

*** I Tim 4:10   It is for this we labor and strive, because we have fixed our hope on the living God, who is the Savior of all men, especially of believers.
[Ed., Only believers are privileged with an opportunity to escape the coming wrath and experience the fruits of the Spirit and the blessings of the kingdom in this life, as well as in the coming ages.]

*** Titus 2:11   For the grace of God has appeared, bringing salvation to all men.

*** Heb 1:2   In these last days He has spoken to us in His Son, whom He appointed heir of all things, through whom also He made the world.

*** Heb 2:8   For in subjecting all things to him [ie., man], He left nothing that is not subject to him. But now we do not yet see all things subjected to him...But we do see Him who has been made for a little while lower than the angels, namely, Jesus, because of the suffering of death crowned with glory and honor, that by the grace of God He might taste death for every one.

Heb 9:26   But now once at the consummation He has been manifested to put away sin by the sacrifice of Himself.
[Ed., Though not yet evident, sin will finally be completely put away, and all creation, which is waiting anxiously for its redemption (Rom 8:19), will be set free!]

Great list of Universal Reconciliation verses, thanks, bookmarked it.

NT - 49 -- Paul - 33; Peter wrote 4; John wrote 5, not counting Revelation (2); And Luke wrote 4; Matthew 1; And 48 in the OT (total 97 UR verses)

Paul, "the God of our fathers has appointed you to know His will". (Acts 22:14)
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marie glen

#9
Colossians 1:15 - "He is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of ALL creation."
https://biblehub.com/interlinear/colossians/1-15.htm - #3956 pases
(The interlinear seems to support "of ALL creation" ?)

P.S. - Colossians 1:16 - "because...
          https://biblehub.com/interlinear/colossians/1-16.htm  (#3956)

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*** Col 1:19-22   For it was the Father's good pleasure for all the fulness to dwell in Him, and through Him to reconcile all things to Himself, having made peace through the blood of His cross; through Him, I say, whether things on earth or things in heaven. And although you were formerly alienated and hostile in mind, engaged in evil deeds, yet He has now reconciled you in His fleshly body through death, in order to present you before Him holy and blameless and beyond reproach.

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rosered



  I love how   Sauls / Pauls conversion   and new name was given on the road to Damascus [meaning a sack full of blood; the similitude of burning]  . 

One of my favorites !!


  I believe   that  it was the old testament prophecies  in many places of  the book  of Isaiah being fulfilled  sister Marie! 

Isaiah  6 ;10   and 42;18  29;18   43;8  and 35;5

  I will cause the  blind to see and those that see [sinful ] be made blind [no sin]   John 9 Spiritual Blindness
...38"Lord, I believe," he said. And he worshiped Jesus.

39Then Jesus declared, "For judgment I have come into this world, so that the blind may see and those who see may become blind." 40Some of the Pharisees who were with Him heard this, and they asked Him, "Are we blind too?"... 41"If you were blind," Jesus replied, "you would not be guilty of sin. But since you claim you can see, your guilt remains."...

Romans 2:19
if you are convinced that you are a guide for the blind, a light for those in darkness,20an instructor of the foolish, a teacher of infants, because you have in the law the embodiment of knowledge and truth—...


I am under the impression   that under the old law  being the tree of knowledge of good and evil  , we develop  our own standard of truth    from it  , causing the Log in our eye  as a stumbling block  , that  causes us to stumble at Gods Word 

terribly  , like Paul / Saul being a murderer   and covetous man  , both he addresses in his confession  , and in ignorance  to God but wise in his own eyes  .

  Knowledge of sin   without LOVE is useless  and dangerous  and preys upon the innocent  , Jesus told us that the cross was about forgiving  them Father they do NOT KNOW what they are doing  ...  Killing the truth[LIFE ]   cannot be done !!! 
but sets up judgement  upon our own heads [ serpents  sting  of death]   

  PAUL /SAUL had to be made blind  and helpless in order to be  converted   / changed ...  like a little child  to be led by the Holy Spirit  , this is why He said  I no longer  want to know  anything but JESUS CHRIST  and Him crucified .  the rest was dung and fertilizer    to make the seed of Gods Word grow  in him .

Paul began   to take up his cross [dying to the world ]   and know   those things he must suffer for Jesus names sake .
and  righting the wrongs  and be of use  to Gods kingdom message [UR message  of  love and forgiveness of sins ] , a way of Life unto the gentiles [nations ] .

  I believe PAUL was entrusted with the mysteries  and   much revelation  of the LORD JESUS CHRIST growing in truth and grace to the fullness of Gods calling .  the  true  light had come to his house .

  :dsunny:    :HeartThrob: 
 
 






 

Jesus is the reward  !!

marie glen

Amen Rose.. :thumbsup: ..the tree of knowing good and evil.. becomes confusion, mystery babble upon the forehead rather than God's seal of truth.. virgin truth/pure truth.. "they are virgins following (only) the Lord wheresoever He goes".. and we know He spoke God"s word / message -- of reconciliation, revealed as logos - reason expressed - in Jesus, and compiled as God's Word, the sWord / truth which the tip of separates every thread of untruth out and away from the tapestry of life.. :banana:

But even though the tree and wood of is currently confusion upon foreheads / in the psyche`s of, it shall do the work it was designed to do.. how amazing.. all the confusion and babbling, shall emerge as crystalline understanding and truth.. If He has allowed the fruit to be chewed on by all.. He has, as we and UR know, predestined also that it will be digested by all.. In the guise of free will and freedom, all will fully understand the only true freedom and knowledge is the Life that is God and only in God. That there is no freedom (nor life) apart from God. ...having been tried in all its awfulness..
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But, "…He has made known to us the mystery of His will according to His good pleasure, which He purposed in Christ that in the fulfillment of the times he might restore all things by the Christ, both those which are in heaven and those which are on earth"
- Ephesians 1:9,10
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marie glen

Another UR verse written by Paul, who said he was told he was "appointed by God to know the will of Him" - Acts 22:14
Acts 22:14, the interlinear - https://biblehub.com/interlinear/acts/22-14.htm


Ephesians 2:7 - Strongly implies UR?

"in order that in the coming ages He might display the surpassing riches of His grace, demonstrated by His kindness to us in Christ Jesus."

Demonstate to who? There's a verse about the faithful angels are also observing and learning..

The verse in the interlinear word for word says "in order that He might show in the ages that are coming, the surpassing riches of the grace of Him in kindness toward us in Christ Jesus".
https://biblehub.com/interlinear/ephesians/2-7.htm

Show to survivors alive during the millennium? ("the 1000 yrs")
And show to all the not (yet) saved during "the judgment"? (? yrs)

"in order that He might show" (who?) "in the ages that are coming.."
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marie glen

Ephesians 5:1 - not direct, straight out UR/CU, but SURELY strongLy suggests it :

1 "Be imitators of God, therefore, as beloved children, 2 and walk in love..."

The rest of the verse, of course- just as Christ gave Himself... which certainly doesn't make it any less UR.
    :dsunny: :girlheart:
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