The Israel only doctrine

[marie glen]

I think, but I'm not sure, that the Israel only teaching is only Israel is saved and reconciled to God. But Simeon said/prophesied about infant Jesus, when he saw Him in the temple. By speaking aloud in prayer to God, thanking Him that he could now die in peace for he had now seen the salvation God has prepared - Luke 2:30-32:

"30 For my eyes have seen Your Salvation, 31 which you have prepared before the face of all the people." — The Greek is likely singular, "the people" (link below). But the next verse tells us who "the people" are.
Simeon said He, Messiah, God's salvation is - "32 a light for revelation to the Nations, and for glory to Your people Israel." (Quoting Isaiah.)

There doesn't seem to be much exclusion there.

(...and He is every being's salvation, not only as an atonement, but "in union with Him" is the salvation and remedy for, and the prevention of, the carnal self first character, which is the wrong road of life which can never work, but can only ever end in death/fading away, preceded by any manner of "missing the mark" happenstance; or what I mean is disaster..! :mshock: )

I looked it up, or actually refreshed my memory and yes it's a doctrine which because Jesus came only to the lost sheep of Israel (during 1st advent! :doh: He's "the seed" after all!) they teach and preach what they call Israel Only - IO. [Are we all reading the same Bible do you think? Maybe people should, or that is, we, all need to immerse ourselves in the slim volume of the New Testament before forming any opinions or :eek: listening to any teachings.
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"laos" (people) https://biblehub.com/greek/2992.htm
..we can see that "the" precedes laos- https://biblehub.com/interlinear/luke/2-31.htm

[Patinak]

There has been a lot written about Paul as being a fraud.  I think that if it were not for Paul, I would probably agree with the Israel Only doctrine. 
Jesus did say that he had come for Israel only (Matt. 15) 24 He answered, "I was sent only to the lost sheep of the house of Israel." And the gospels (I hate to use the word "clearly") portray Jesus focused pretty much solely on the Jews.
If a person had only the Old Testament, and the New Testament void of Paul's writings, he would be hard pressed to make a case that there was hope for any but Israel.
It is true that God made provisions for foreigners to be accepted in to the Jewish family, but it didn't seem to happen often.  I also think that the way the early church leaders (who were all Jewish) tried to get  new believers to follow the Jewish traditions attest to the idea that salvation was exclusive.
If not for God using Paul to reveal how the gospel was inclusive  ([Rom 1:16 KJV] 16 For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth; to the Jew first, and also to the Greek), we might still feel hopeless.
It took Paul to explain the passing of the old Law system, and God to destroy the old Temple system for us (the church) to see that the age of grace to all had arrived.  Some just won't accept it.
Pat's  :2c:

[joeteekay]

If a person had only the Old Testament, and the New Testament void of Paul's writings, he would be hard pressed to make a case that there was hope for any but Israel.
It is true that God made provisions for foreigners to be accepted in to the Jewish family, but it didn't seem to happen often.  I also think that the way the early church leaders (who were all Jewish) tried to get  new believers to follow the Jewish traditions attest to the idea that salvation was exclusive.
If not for God using Paul to reveal how the gospel was inclusive  ([Rom 1:16 KJV] 16 For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth; to the Jew first, and also to the Greek), we might still feel hopeless.
It took Paul to explain the passing of the old Law system, and God to destroy the old Temple system for us (the church) to see that the age of grace to all had arrived.  Some just won't accept it.
Pat's  :2c:

Very true. Until the calling of Paul (Saul) and his gospel message, the only way that gentiles could inherit the promises made to the house of Israel (i.e. the millennium) was by becoming a proselyte like Cornelius. Paul under the inspiration of God proclaimed an expanded are more in depth gospel open to both Jews and gentiles, no strings attached..

[marie glen]

Amen brothers! I can only think of one verse in the Torah.. Genesis 18:18 the promise to Abraham that he would be a blessing to all nations.. Abraham will surely become a great and powerful nation, and through him all the nations of the earth will be blessed. So it's likely only a few realized it, if at times any?)

Of course the prophets knew.. or at the least Isaiah who wrote quite a few verses about the light to the nations..

And verses like "every tongue will confess" could be read as every tongue of Israel.. Not knowing God's blueprint/works is like ripples in a pond.. ever widening circles..
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[eaglesway]

Jesus said the children of Abraham would out number the sands of the sea and the stars of the sky.That he would be the father of many nations. While Paul certainly wrote the most clearly on the nuances of this(as with many things, because he wrote most of the epistles) John did as well, extending it to "any one who loves knows God and is known by God".

It is important to remember Peter proclaimed the restoration of all things on the Day of Pentecost and proclaimed that it had been witnessed to "by all the prophets of old"- and it was, especially by Isaiah though :o)

Also, it was Peter through whom the Lord opened the door to the Gentiles at Cornelius's place, and it was recognized by the whole assembly in the Holy Spirit that the Gentiles were now admitted to "the house of prayer for all people".

I think people who deny Paul are usually hyper dispensationalists of one kind or another because, man- he just tears down those walls of partition over and over again 

But hey, Maybe we should chop out Isaiah too   :eek: