some Fiery and Refiner's fire verses

[marie glen]

 I came across a couple of lists of refiner's fire verses, so I thought I would paste them here.. and then look for other verses about fire and fiery judgment..

Psalm 66:10
For You have tried us, O God; You have refined us as silver is refined.

Proverbs 17:3
The refining pot is for silver and the furnace for gold, But the LORD tests hearts.

Proverbs 25:4
Take away the dross from the silver, And there comes out a vessel for the smith;

Isaiah 1:25
"I will also turn My hand against you, And will smelt away your dross as with lye And will remove all your alloy.

Jeremiah 9:7
Therefore thus says the LORD of hosts, "Behold, I will refine them and assay them; For what else can I do, because of the daughter of My people?

Ezekiel 20:38
and I will purge from you the rebels and those who transgress against Me; I will bring them out of the land where they sojourn, but they will not enter the land of Israel. Thus you will know that I am the LORD.

Daniel 11:35
"Some of those who have insight will fall, in order to refine, purge and make them pure until the end time; because it is still to come at the appointed time.

Daniel 12:10
"Many will be purged, purified and refined, but the wicked will act wickedly; and none of the wicked will understand, but those who have insight will understand.

Malachi 3:3
And he shall sit as a refiner and purifier of silver: and he shall purify the sons of Levi, and purge them as gold and silver, that they may offer to the LORD an offering in righteousness.
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Jeremiah 9:7
Therefore thus says the LORD of hosts, "Behold, I will refine them and assay them; For what else can I do, because of the daughter of My people?

Ezekiel 22:19
"Therefore, thus says the Lord GOD, 'Because all of you have become dross, therefore, behold, I am going to gather you into the midst of Jerusalem.

Ezekiel 22:20
As they gather silver and bronze and iron and lead and tin into the furnace to blow fire on it in order to melt it, so I will gather you in My anger and in My wrath and I will lay you there and melt you.

Zechariah 13:7
"Awake, O sword, against My Shepherd, And against the man, My Associate," Declares the LORD of hosts. "Strike the Shepherd that the sheep may be scattered; And I will turn My hand against the little ones.

Isaiah 1:25
And I will turn my hand on you, and purely purge away your dross, and take away all your tin:

Isaiah 1:22 Your silver is become dross, your wine mixed with water:

Isaiah 4:4 When the Lord shall have washed away the filth of the daughters of Zion...

Isaiah 6:11-13 Then said I, Lord, how long? And he answered, Until the cities be ...

Jeremiah 6:29 The bellows are burned, the lead is consumed of the fire; the founder ...

Jeremiah 9:7 Therefore thus said the LORD of hosts, Behold, I will melt them, ...

Ezekiel 20:38 And I will purge out from among you the rebels, and them that transgress ...

Matthew 3:12 Whose fan is in his hand, and he will thoroughly purge his floor, ...

Isaiah 48:10
Behold, I have refined you - tsaraph: to smelt, refine, test -  but not as silver; I have tested/tried/chosen you in the furnace of affliction. (different words, different versions - "bachar: to choose") (but no silver was produced?)

Matthew 13:40
As therefore the tares are gathered and burned in the fire, so shall it be in the end of this age.
Young's Literal - As, then, the darnel is gathered up, and is burned with fire, so shall it be in the full end of this age
gardeners - Just as the weeds are sorted out and burned in the fire, so it will be at the end of the world.

2 Thessalonians 1:7-8
...to give you who are troubled rest with us when the Lord Jesus is revealed from heaven with His mighty angels in flaming fire...

Not done yet.. but I have to run.. :hiya:

[marie glen]

Luke 12:49
I came to send fire on the earth, and how I wish it were already kindled!

Mark 9:43
And if thy hand may cause thee to stumble, cut it off; it is better for thee maimed to enter into the life, than having the two hands, to go away to the gehenna fire.

Luke 3:17
His winnowing fan is in His hand, and He will thoroughly clean out His threshing floor, and gather the wheat into His barn; but the chaff He will burn with unquenchable fire.

Revelation 17:16
And the ten horns (toes?) which you saw on the beast, these will hate the harlot, make her desolate and naked, eat (consume, use up, deplete) her flesh and burn her with fire.

Romans 12:20
If your enemy is hungry, feed him;
If he is thirsty, give him a drink;
For in so doing you will heap coals of fire on his head.

Jas. 3:6
And the tongue is a fire, a world of iniquity. The tongue is so set among our members that it defiles the whole body, and sets on fire the course of nature; and it is set on fire by hell--by "geenna: Gehenna, a valley W. and South of Jer -- géenna (a transliteration of the Hebrew term, Gêhinnōm, "the valley of Hinnom"

Revelation 14:9-11,15-19
And a third messenger did follow them, saying in a great voice, 'If any one the beast doth bow before, and his image, and doth receive a mark upon his forehead, or upon his hand, he also shall drink of the wine of the wrath of God, that hath been mingled unmixed in the cup of His anger, and he shall be tormented in fire and brimstone before the holy messengers, and before the Lamb, and the smoke of their torment doth go up to ages of ages; and they have no rest day and night, who are bowing before the beast and his image, also if any doth receive the mark of his name.. ..15 Send forth thy sickle and reap, because come to thee hath the hour of reaping, because ripe hath been the harvest of the earth. and he who is sitting upon the cloud did put forth his sickle upon the earth, and the earth was reaped. And another messenger did come forth.. having authority over the fire, and he called with a great cry to him having the sharp sickle, saying, `Send forth thy sharp sickle, and gather the clusters of the vine of the earth, because come to perfection have her grapes ..and the messenger did put forth his sickle to the earth, and did gather the vine of the earth, and did cast [it] to the great wine-press of the wrath of God

Isaiah 6:10-12 -- ...10 "Render the hearts of this people insensitive, Their ears dull, And their eyes dim, Otherwise they might see with their eyes, Hear with their ears, Understand with their hearts, And return and be healed." 11 Then I said, "Lord, how long?" And He answered, "Until cities are devastated and without inhabitant, Houses are without people And the land is utterly desolate, 12 "The LORD has removed men far away, And the forsaken places are many in the midst of the land..
Isaiah 24:20 -- The earth shall reel to and fro like a drunkard, and shall be removed like a cottage; and the transgression thereof shall be heavy upon it; and it shall fall, and not rise again.
Mark 13:24-26 -- 24... 'The sun will be darkened, and the moon will not give its light, 25 the stars will (seem to?) fall from the sky, and the powers of the heavens will be shaken.' 26 Then they will see the Son of Man coming in the clouds with great power and glory....

[Ross]

Pretty flamin' hot stuff.
Purifies the flesh from the spirit and emphasises the power which we become in the resurrection.
Mentioned a few times so must be significant.

[marie glen]

 :thumbsup: yep.. the sense is earthly tribulations.. not an afterlife called hell.. And the 'end' days fiery scenario.. i think is man's doings.. Jesus coming with fire, I believe is 'metaphor' or, sort of poetic language. Although I don't think the Father or the Son can be said to be kept out of something.. Hence He directly or indirectly causes the consequences - A natural law, to reap what you sow..

[MHz]

The servants are being refined by being alive in the earth for the 1,000 year and the ones sent to hell by Christ's sword are refined in a not so gentle manor. What the servant are taught in that time is what they will teach the other ones once their punishment ends.

Isa:65:12-15:
Therefore will I number you to the sword,
and ye shall all bow down to the slaughter:
because when I called,
ye did not answer;
when I spake,
ye did not hear;
but did evil before mine eyes,
and did choose that wherein I delighted not.
Therefore thus saith the Lord GOD,
Behold,
my servants shall eat,
but ye shall be hungry:
behold,
my servants shall drink,
but ye shall be thirsty:
behold,
my servants shall rejoice,
but ye shall be ashamed:
Behold,
my servants shall sing for joy of heart,
but ye shall cry for sorrow of heart,
and shall howl for vexation of spirit.
And ye shall leave your name for a curse unto my chosen:
for the Lord GOD shall slay thee,
and call his servants by another name:

[marie glen]

The servants are being refined by being alive in the earth for the 1,000 year and the ones sent to hell by Christ's sword are refined in a not so gentle manor. What the servant are taught in that time is what they will teach the other ones once their punishment ends.

Isa:65:12-15:
Therefore will I number you to the sword,
and ye shall all bow down to the slaughter:
because when I called,
ye did not answer;
when I spake,
ye did not hear;
but did evil before mine eyes,
and did choose that wherein I delighted not.
Therefore thus saith the Lord GOD,
Behold,
my servants shall eat,
but ye shall be hungry:
behold,
my servants shall drink,
but ye shall be thirsty:
behold,
my servants shall rejoice,
but ye shall be ashamed:
Behold,
my servants shall sing for joy of heart,
but ye shall cry for sorrow of heart,
and shall howl for vexation of spirit.
And ye shall leave your name for a curse unto my chosen:
for the Lord GOD shall slay thee,
and call his servants by another name:

Yes, the other name "Christian"... how the Father would make Israel jealous by a nation that is no nation.. the gentiles.. goyum..

And Jerusalem was destroyed..

we who are alive and remain until the coming of the Lord will by no means precede those who are asleep. 16 For the Lord Himself will descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of an archangel, and with the trumpet of God. And the dead in Christ will rise first. 17 Then we who are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air. And thus we shall always be with the Lord (1 Thess 4:15-17)

And they live and reign with Christ for a thousand years. This is the first resurrection. 5 But the rest of the dead did not live again until the thousand years were finished. We believers during this lifetime, having been in the refiner's crucible / salted with fire, during this carnal lifetime.. (Rev. 20:4,5)

7 Now when the thousand years have expired, Satan will be released from his prison 8 and will go out to deceive the nations which are in the four corners of the earth, Gog and Magog, to gather them together to battle, whose number is as the sand of the sea... And fire came down from God out of heaven and devoured them... (Rev 20:7,8)

11 Then (after the 1000 years have expired) I saw a great white throne and Him who sat on it, from whose face the earth and the heaven fled away. And there was found no place for them. 12 And I saw the dead, small and great, standing before God


So the pharisees, whom Jesus told if they did not repent they would die in their sins.. So it is obvious they will rise istill in their sins in this 2nd resurrection - if the one at His return is the first resurrection, it stands to reason the one "after the thousand years has ended" is a second resurrection. Believers were all raised in the first one at His return and "reigned with Him during those thousand years".

So those pharisees on judgment 'day' will (imo) see those come from east and west, etc, and recline at meal with Abraham, Isaac and Jacob.. but they will be in the outer darkness - in the OT feast days.. torches brightly lit, warmth of the feast.. to be outside the feast in the outer darkness.. "It will be more tolerable for Sodom and Gomorrah on Judgment Day than for you.." .."The queen of the south, on Judgment Day will rise up to condemn this generation who rejected Him, for a greater than Solomon is here.."

I think it's common for many folks to think of the resurrection of all those not saved during this brief lifetime, to think our Heavenly Father who is love and love never fails, will wake them from their sleep of death to pronounce sentence and throw them into the lake of fire.. But I think the lake of fire is concurrent with the 'day' of judgment, because "all" death is thrown into the lake of fire at end of judgment 'day'.. along with any total hard cases who still would not be drawn to Jesus who said "I will draw all to me".. So worse case scenario, if there is a human who cannot be drawn to Jesus during judgment 'day' and they go to the 2nd death as a lake of fire (refiner's crucible) they will be drawn to Jesus therein for Jesus said He would draw all to Him..

In Revelation 22. speaking of ones outside the city.. I believe is a poetic way of saying those outside the kingdom anytime before the Tabernacling of God upon Earth made new with man.. Has to be before Yhvh becomes "all in all" or He would not then be "all in all" - if a corner of the universe somewhere is full of languishing ones undergoing torment and agony in fire for ever and ever..  "All in all" strongly suggests Christian Universalism or the annihilation of all those rejecting Him. But who in their right mind will reject Him once they realize the full facts.. Or is it possible God, who is a "righteous judge" (is love and al-mighty) would condemn and sentence folks without ever repeal when they never knew they could instead follow Jesus..
    :Peace2: God bless! great verses!

[sheila]

imo the text that isinterpreted as 'afte"r the 1000yr reign..iserror..andshouldberead as..along with the endofthe 1000yrreign..or at thetimeof the endofthe 1000yrreign....

because Christ reigns unti lHeputs all enemies under Hisfeet..and is the resurrection to raise up all men in His image.and death is destroyed.

all Israelwill be saved..and the accepting back inofthe'jews' islifefrom the dead..[camp of the Holy city in the earth....surrounded/thewicked encompass the righteous,

therefore wrong judgement goeth forth[condemned an innocent man]Jerusalem now in bondage[picturing Hagaar]must be bornagainfrom above[Jerusalemabove]

to be free.  Andwhat is the acceptingofthem back in but life from the dead.

also pictured in the wheat and tares parable..and isreally portraying all men bound in sin/disobedience.

[MHz]

Yes, the other name "Christian"... how the Father would make Israel jealous by a nation that is no nation.. the gentiles.. goyum..

And Jerusalem was destroyed..

we who are alive and remain until the coming of the Lord will by no means precede those who are asleep. 16 For the Lord Himself will descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of an archangel, and with the trumpet of God. And the dead in Christ will rise first. 17 Then we who are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air. And thus we shall always be with the Lord (1 Thess 4:15-17)

I would put it slightly different because of the wording in my references

The prophecy and the list is shortened a bit to save space.

Jeremiah:25:15-18:
For thus saith the LORD God of Israel unto me;
Take the wine cup of this fury at my hand,
and cause all the nations,
to whom I send thee,
to drink it.
And they shall drink,
and be moved,
and be mad,
because of the sword that I will send among them.
Then took I the cup at the LORD's hand,
and made all the nations to drink,
unto whom the LORD had sent me:
To wit,
Jerusalem,
and the cities of Judah,
and the kings thereof,
and the princes thereof,
to make them a desolation,
an astonishment,
an hissing,
and a curse;
as it is this day;

Jeremiah:25:26:
And all the kings of the north,
far and near,
one with another,
and all the kingdoms of the world,
which are upon the face of the earth:
and the king of Sheshach shall drink after them.

Jeremiah:25:29:
For,
lo,
I begin to bring evil on the city which is called by my name,
and should ye be utterly unpunished? 
Ye shall not be unpunished:
for I will call for a sword upon all the inhabitants of the earth,
saith the LORD of hosts.

Jeremiah:25:32-33:
Thus saith the LORD of hosts,
Behold,
evil shall go forth from nation to nation,
and a great whirlwind shall be raised up from the coasts of the earth.
And the slain of the LORD shall be at that day from one end of the earth even unto the other end of the earth:
they shall not be lamented,
neither gathered,
nor buried;
they shall be dung upon the ground.

God allows Satan to claim Jerusalem as his capital city, Babylon,  for the duration the two witnesses are in the grave and on the same day they are resurrected the 7 vials get poured out and everything associated with Satan is destroyed.

There are lots of flood stories out but then the ocean has risen 450 ft so there should be lots of them that are slightly different. Judgment stories would all be based on Jeremiah using Ezekiel's wheel to actually visit those locations and give them the prophecy and the results at the end when it comes into reality. Those stories are very similar and it bis unique to the bible as far as I know.