The Identity of the Two Witnesses of Revelation

[cgaviria]

I have written a study on who the "two witnesses" of Revelation are, around when they will appear, and around when they will die. The study can be found here in English http://www.wisdomofgod.co/2017/10/12/the-identity-of-the-two-witnesses-of-revelation/ or in Spanish here http://www.sabiduriadedios.co/2017/10/13/la-identidad-de-los-dos-testigos-del-apocalipsis/ . Let us begin a discussion on these matters.

[marie glen]

I'll have to check that out! (Tomorrow.) As the 2 witnesses are a mystery to me.. two prophets in Israel in very late days? :dontknow:
:Peace2:

[sheila]

    the 'word of God" testimony[Father testifies...thisismy son,hear yehim" and testimony of the Holy spirit[he will not speak of his own,

  but reveal unto you the things that pertain unto me]  We can expect Court judgements and rulings to be declared[the ancient of Days

come and the COURT SIT..and the time that the saints receive the kingdom]   He is working a great deliverance just as He did for His

  people in Egypt...the plagues against the Prince of this world..is just as with Pharoah...to let my people go..that they may journey

  three days in the wilderness too offffer unto me an acceptable sacrifice/on the third day I shall be perfected.

    the archangels trumpet the judgements[arch holds the words/commandements of God /hidden manna and the rod that budded and

  bore fruit/branch/almonds]  these are our big brothers Melchezedek Priesthood under Jesus leadership.   Priests make atonement

   AT-ONE-Ment[mind/thought] UNION of thought.THE LIFE IN THE BLOOD OF JESUS.[I pray,Holy Father..that they may be one..]

   Man without understanding is like the beast that perisheth[operating in the purely carnal physical realm] man with understanding

  willnever die...but lay his  life down[in this realm] and return home unto the Father. Even if ye die[due to being amix of carnal physical

man,yet spirit] ye shall live![be raised up in the spirit realm..and return Home unto the Father of Spirits.  :2c:

[bbyrd009]

I have written a study on who the "two witnesses" of Revelation are, around when they will appear, and around when they will die. The study can be found here in English http://www.wisdomofgod.co/2017/10/12/the-identity-of-the-two-witnesses-of-revelation/ or in Spanish here http://www.sabiduriadedios.co/2017/10/13/la-identidad-de-los-dos-testigos-del-apocalipsis/ . Let us begin a discussion on these matters.

wow, you get around, huh?

[bbyrd009]

I'll have to check that out! (Tomorrow.) As the 2 witnesses are a mystery to me.. two prophets in Israel in very late days? :dontknow:
:Peace2:

prolly not actual people imo, but it will be interesting to watch this unfold in two forums i guess :)

[marie glen]

 :doh: I forgot to come back and read the study! ..I do a lot of studies too, 3 blogs all connected.. https://bibleprophecy4today.blogspot.com/ - the 2 witnesses are one thing I have not been blessed to understand.. thus far! Looking forward to reading your study.. (so how'd I forget? ole-timers I guess I'm sure  :doh: )

[trettep]

The Two Witnesses are those that exhibit the same Spirit exhibited by the Church at Philadelphia and the Church at Smyrna.   See chapter's 2 and 3 of Revelation; where Christ is in the Midst of the Churches.

Label each candlestick and take away each that He finds disfavor with and the two remaining are Philadelphia and Smyrna with Christ in the Center.

They will be the ones with the Swords from their mouth.  It takes two to put someone to death.  They have such power.  Two Swords are Enough to proclaim the the testimony which is written in the fleshy tables of their hearts and not on stone.

2Co_3:3  Forasmuch as ye are manifestly declared to be the epistle of Christ ministered by us, written not with ink, but with the Spirit of the living God; not in tables of stone, but in fleshy tables of the heart.


Luk_22:38  And they said, Lord, behold, here are two swords. And he said unto them, It is enough.

Deu_17:6  At the mouth of two witnesses, or three witnesses, shall he that is worthy of death be put to death; but at the mouth of one witness he shall not be put to death.

Eph_6:17  And take the helmet of salvation, and the sword of the Spirit, which is the word of God:

[marie glen]

 :Chinscratch: very interesting trettep, I never have thought of that or heard of it before.. And it's certainly as probable or more so than some of the other ideas. :thumbsup:

[trettep]

:Chinscratch: very interesting trettep, I never have thought of that or heard of it before.. And it's certainly as probable or more so than some of the other ideas. :thumbsup:

I appreciate the feedback because without it I don't know how long too tarry.

[marie glen]

 :thumbsup: That's a good question! Exactly what I wonder about too. And would LOVE to have clear and precise information to pass on to others, as many as possible.

I do find myself always returning to Daniel 12, verses 11 and 12. Have you studied those verses? And done the math?

Verse 11 says "from the time that the daily" (Hebrew word# is "perpetual/continuing) "sacrifice is taken away" (stopped, removed?) - Most bible prophecy folks believe this to be Israel in. 3rd temple carrying out sacrifices, which if it ever occurred the world would not think good of it at all. So if we ever saw that occur.. we should think of Daniel 12, verse 11!

But! What if that's not it? And it occurs sometime sooner? I read years (many years) ago someone posted on a web tv forum, that this continual sacrifice/offerings of prayers,etc, was the Western / Wailing Wall, part of the idea being how Jesus said of the temple complex not one stone would remain atop another.. world

It made sense to me then, and it still does. And I'm afraid everyone's going to miss that sign - which I have to think was given for a reason.

The whole verse reads like this "from the time the perpetual sacrifice" (place of?) "is taken away, and the abomination of desolation (666?) is set up, shall be 1,260 Days." - which is 3.5 Hebrew years of 30 day months, plus 30 days.

Verse 12, following verse says "blessed is the one who waits and comes to the 1,335 days." - Which is 45 days later. Isn't it?

You know.. there's actually no the tribulation in the Bible.. this life is tribulation? ..I've actually gone so far as to think of Revelation 2:10, in the letter to Smyrna, "you shall have tribulation 10 days" as referring to the last ten days of the 45 days! And wonder if folks in those days might want to bug in for 35 days and bug out for ten.. We do know the final days 666 apparatus says cannot buy or sell, but then seems to escalate into will be killed.. (?) ....I've prayed a lot about these things.. over a list of questions a long time ago and a lot lately to be accurate and only accurate. :gsmile: I think He gave me a way of seeing things around us as to Bible prophesy and logic(?) where things likely lead, or are likely to go. With my questions, the first thing which came to mind was a question "what is the biggest influence on "modern" man today?" Immediately I thought 'the theory of evolution! First lightbulb. The false prophet. (Of today. Most seem to still be seeing yesterday??)
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[marie glen]

I'll have to check that out! (Tomorrow.) As the 2 witnesses are a mystery to me.. two prophets in Israel in very late days? :dontknow:
:Peace2:

prolly not actual people imo, but it will be interesting to watch this unfold in two forums i guess :)

It's an interesting study. Even though I tend to think of the "Day Of the LORD" followed by Jesus' return as being foreshadowed by ancient Israel's Trumpets, often now called Rosh Hashanah - then think of Day Of Atonement (DOA) as Judgment 'Day' 10 centuries later (then 5 centuries later, "Tabernacles" when YHVH makes all things new, that He may be all in all, and He "will now tabernacle with mankind upon Earth  :banana: wherein righteousness will dwell :cloud9:

It sure will be interesting to find out what we had right, and what we maybe don't have right :doh: :sigh:
:thumbsup:

[marie glen]

Postscript, I also think of seal 6 as being thermonuclear.. described in chapter 6 as a blend of its very first occurrance and its very last occurrance at Armageddon - which very much obscures/conceals a lot of the whole Rev vision! With the pause of it (thermonuclear as warfare) we've been in since after Hiroshima and Nagasaki. It seems very doubtful to me this event would not be in bible prophecy and the book of Revelation.

And look at the following verse(s).. four angels hold back the wind (the new fiery thermonuclear wind?) that it not harm earth or trees, until when? Until 144,000 of Israel are sealed on their forehead, following (for the most part) a great crowd too many to be numbered previously sealed(?) - otherwise who are they? Definitely two groups. One Israel - MT. 23:39 and the other is a great numberless crowd from every tribe, tongue and nation.

I figure we have been in that pause. Where we are right now in Bible prophecy. And when the pause is broken (albeit limited) is when things will escalate.. the world body(beast) stepping up.. (atheistic, with its beginnings including occult people and new age still in it, world body of today, with lots of Middle East nation's intricately involved too, in the name of tolerance/peace, peace but I suspect anterior motives showing up (Rev 20:4d).
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[marie glen]

:thumbsup: That's a good question! Exactly what I wonder about too. And would LOVE to have clear and precise information to pass on to others, as many as possible.
:Peace2:

..yes, I know i'm talking to myself :laughing7: not really! I just had to add something which sort of popped into my poor little brain today.. the idea, "what about the five months of marshall law? don't you want people to be prepared for that?"

It being that at Marshall Law the forces that be come around and confiscate peoples goods.. food. Etc, you know, for the good of the people so it will all be shared equally during crises :gwink: - in Revelation chapter 9, it's the loud, locust like (swarm, hover?) which can sting from their tail and head.. and torment mankind for five months.. the loud locust like (whirring?) come out of the smoke (Joel's smoky day?) aNd, out of the bottomless pit (of potential evil upon the wayward way/imperfection/sin)

I ask myself, how does this relate to UR :Chinscratch: ? It's the Philadelphia church (brotherly "love") that will be "kept from the hour of trial that is coming to all the world" :Peace2: