About Fire

Started by whatistruth, June 12, 2017, 01:18:47 PM

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whatistruth

He rained (down) fire over them when God judges the nations.

That is, the flesh may be physically burnt. Is God burning them alive?   :flamebreath:

And ,
Ezekiel 21:32  You will be fuel for the fire, your blood will be shed in your land, you will be remembered no more; for I the LORD have spoken.

How does the fire here become a purifying fire?

And,
Luke 9:54 When the disciples James and John saw this, they asked, "Lord, do you want us to call fire down from heaven to destroy them...

How can fire from heaven, destroy human life?
Luke 9:55  For the Son of man is not come to destroy men's lives, but to save them. And they went to another village.


Lazarus Short

There is natural fire in the natural world, and there is Godfire in the supernatural world.  In no case is there Hellfire.  God intends it for purification, but sometimes and for His purposes, God will kill with fire in the natural world.  He states that He will restore the fortunes of even the children of Sodom.
Socrates taught Plato.  Plato taught Aristotle.  Aristotle tutored the son of Philip of Macedon.  This boy grew up to become Alexander the Great, largely by slaughtering a lot of people.  That's philosophy.

Jesus spoke the Truth.  He blessed the poor.  He healed the sick.  He even raised the dead.  He died on a cross for us, lived again, and came back long enough to tell us to love one another.  That's religion.

YHVH = Behold the Nail, Behold the Hand = Jesus

Abigail

Hi,

As I understand, you are seeking to understand His character in the light of the severe judgments language in the Bible?

What I found very helpfull lately is to listen to some messages by Santo Calarco, like this one:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=35vDN3Rbcrw&list=PLsYXTnSrLttbPkthAx-u2JPKZBSV01ZQh&index=3

He deals with a lot of this stuff.

WhiteWings

No directly addressing your question but here you find what many other usages of fire mean: http://radical-reaction.com/MyChristianSites/LoL/index.html
1 Timothy 2:3-4  ...God our Savior;  Who will have all men to be saved...
John 12:47  And if any man hear my words, and believe not, I judge him not: for I came not to judge the world, but to save the world.
Romans 4:5 But to the one who does not work, but believes in the one who declares the ungodly righteous ...

whatistruth

Quote from: Abigail on June 12, 2017, 10:30:42 PM
Hi,

As I understand, you are seeking to understand His character in the light of the severe judgments language in the Bible?

Yes dear friend.  How else can I understand?I try to look at everything and understand everything.

Thank you for links.

People's perception can change.

For example,

One day it was a speech like this with a person,

Why does God create people that He knows will go to hell?

He says, 

"Because the evil ones serve as tools for the saints to mature.

God wants to save everyone but god's wants will not change it.
There is a human will and human desire. "

This view made sense to me at that time. Because, God says he does not want to upset people, but he upsets them. (Sometimes, I am still dealing with these verses)

But now, I would like to tell him something different,

' If bad people are a tool for saints,

Haven't you been so bad once upon a time ?
God can use a bad person who can finally get rid.
Does this person need to be always (endless) bad? Everyone is already doing evil. '

Blessing