The blue something like a THRONE ?

[rosered]

   Hi  all , has anyone ever noticed this  blue throne before and  appears  emerald green in Rev 4 ?  Made me think of  heaven is my throne  and the earth is my footstool

  The scriptures describe it as something like a throne    and its blue , in one place it is  sapphire  blue in color and other it is lapis lazuli  Stone

I am wondering if this is not the Judgment seat of Christ ?   and if it is not in the here and now  , because the Great White  throne is not the same as this   something like a blue throne  I have never noticed  before  ..

  Its is in  Ezek 1  and 10     and also  subtle as seen in rev 4      and  in Exodus 24 9 Then Moses went up with Aaron, Nadab and Abihu, and seventy of the elders of Israel, 10 and they saw the God of Israel; and under His feet there appeared to be a pavement of sapphire, as clear as the sky itself. 11 Yet He did not stretch out His hand against the nobles of the sons of Israel; and they saw God, and they ate and drank.

I know Jesus CHRIST  IS THE WORD OF GOD  Being the Son of God and the Son of man  and the  middle  as the cross  was  and  mediator ,  gulf   fixed ,  our testator       I saw this as sitting  and than standing     , both  sitting in power    and standing in power  have meaning and purpose 

  Ezek 1 26 Above the firmament over their heads was the likeness of a throne that looked like sapphire; and upon this likeness of a throne was seated, up above, a figure that looked like a human being/son of mankind

27 And I saw something like polished metal, like the appearance of fire enclosed on all sides, from what looked like the waist up; and from what looked like the waist down, I saw something like the appearance of fire and brilliant light surrounding him.


28 Just like the appearance of the rainbow in the clouds on a rainy day so was the appearance of brilliance that surrounded him. Such was the appearance of the likeness of the glory of the Lord. And when I saw it, I fell on my face and heard a voice speak.

Ekek 10Chapter 10
1 Then I looked and there above the firmament over the heads of the cherubim was something like a sapphire, something that looked like a throne. 2 ]And he said to the man dressed in linen: Go within the wheelwork under the cherubim; fill both your hands with burning coals from the place among the cherubim, then scatter them over the city.

  Rev 4  Scene in Heaven
4 After these things I looked, and behold, a door standing open in heaven, and the first voice which I had heard, like the sound of a trumpet speaking with me, said, "Come up here, and I will show you what must take place after these things." 2 Immediately I was in the Spirit; and behold, a throne was standing in heaven, and One sitting on the throne. 3 And He who was sitting was like a jasper stone and a sardius in appearance; and there was a rainbow around the throne, like an emerald in appearance. 4 Around the throne were twenty-four thrones; and upon the thrones I saw twenty-four elders sitting, clothed in white garments, and golden crowns on their heads.

 

Isaiah 6;1   6 In the year of King Uzziah's death I saw the Lord sitting on a throne, lofty and exalted, with the train of His robe filling the temple. and Dan 7 ;9

Daniel 7:9 (NASB)


9 "I kept looking
Until thrones were set up,
And the Ancient of Days took His seat;
His vesture was like white snow
And the hair of His head like pure wool.
His throne was ablaze with flames,
Its wheels were a burning fire.

  Any help is appreciated      , God bless your efforts ..

[sheila]

Hi Rose..it's a depiction of the Heavenly throne government...of which priestly divisions were shadowed in the levitical services in Israel

  patterned after the heavenly....all the sapphires/emerald..jewels..are connected to the New Jerusalem..precious stones= rocks

not cut out by human hands..but formed by God...even men built up into a Holy temple.

  It is the governmental king/priest city

[sheila]

Isaaih 54;11  I will rebuild your foundation with sapphires........

[sheila]

Isaaih 6;2 seraphs=sapphires

[sheila]

Malachi 3;17  and they shall be mine,says the Lord of Host,in the day when I make up my jewels,and I will spare them

as a man spareth his own son that serveth him.

[rosered]

Malachi 3;17  and they shall be mine,says the Lord of Host,in the day when I make up my jewels,and I will spare them

as a man spareth his own son that serveth him.

Thanks  Shelia

Malachi 3;17  and they shall be mine,says the Lord of Host,in the day when I make up my jewels,and I will spare them

as a man spareth his own son that serveth him.

I  see this is  all according to the patten of temple building than  in the  old testament

Isaaih 54;11  I will rebuild your foundation with sapphires........

I love the blue   having meaning of the heavens  skies and the green  in  Rev 4  is all things new  maybe ?

Hi Rose..it's a depiction of the Heavenly throne government...of which priestly divisions were shadowed in the levitical services in Israel

  patterned after the heavenly....all the sapphires/emerald..jewels..are connected to the New Jerusalem..precious stones= rocks

not cut out by human hands..but formed by God...even men built up into a Holy temple.

  It is the governmental king/priest city

I  believe is it the scriptures that do  describe   this and   add more insight in diffent places and they all say a lot the same exact  things

  Thanks sis  :HeartThrob:

[marie glen]

I know this is very long, and not sure if anyone will read.. but I did a bible search of "throne" (which according to the Hebrew can be throne, seat of honor, or can be sometimes just seat).. left out many of course, there were 185 :laughing7: but it's still a pretty long list.. but interesting!! Many were in the Book of Revelation

https://www.biblegateway.com/quicksearch/?search=throne&version=NIV;AMP;KJV;NKJV;YLT&searchtype=phrase&resultspp=250 (all which came up in the search)

..I left in (I think) all the New Testament verses..


Some of the verses:

Exodus 17:16 (niv)
He said, "Because hands were lifted up against the throne of

the Lord, the Lord will be at war against the Amalekites from

generation to generation." (wow :mshock: )

2 Samuel 7:13 (niv)
He is the one who will build a house for my Name, and I will establish the throne of his kingdom forever.

2 Samuel 7:16 (niv)
Your house and your kingdom will endure forever before me; your throne will be established forever.'"
(Luke 1:32 - (niv)
He will be great and will be called the Son of the Most High. The Lord God will give him the throne of his father David,)

Psalm 9:7 Young's Literal Translation
And Jehovah to the age abideth, He is preparing for judgment His throne.

Psalm 11:4 (niv)
The Lord is in his holy temple; the Lord is on his heavenly throne. He observes everyone on earth; his eyes examine them.

Psalm 89:14 (niv)
Righteousness and justice are the foundation of your throne; love and faithfulness go before you.

Psalm 97:2 (niv)
Clouds and thick darkness surround him; righteousness and justice are the foundation of his throne.

Psalm 132:11 (niv)
The Lord swore an oath to David, a sure oath he will not revoke: "One of your own descendants I will place on your throne.

Proverbs 9:14 Young's Literal Translation
And she hath sat at the opening of her house, On a throne -- the high places of the city, (babylon)

Isaiah 6:1 (niv)
[ Isaiah's Commission ] In the year that King Uzziah died, I saw the Lord, high and exalted, seated on a throne; and the train of his robe filled the temple.
Amplified Bible
[ Isaiah's Vision ] In the year that King Uzziah died, I saw [in a vision] the Lord sitting on a throne, high and exalted, with the train of His royal robe filling the [most holy part of the] temple.


Isaiah 9:7 (niv)
Of the greatness of his government and peace there will be no end. He will reign on David's throne and over his kingdom, establishing and upholding it with justice and righteousness from that time on and forever. The zeal of the Lord Almighty will accomplish this.

Isaiah 16:5 (niv)
In love a throne will be established; in faithfulness a man will sit on it— one from the house of David— one who in judging seeks justice and speeds the cause of righteousness.

Isaiah 47:1 (niv)
[ The Fall of Babylon ] "Go down, sit in the dust, Virgin Daughter Babylon; sit on the ground without a throne, queen city of the Babylonians. No more will you be called tender or delicate.

Isaiah 66:1 (niv)
This is what the Lord says: "Heaven is my throne, and the earth is my footstool. Where is the house you will build for me? Where will my resting place be?

Jeremiah 3:17 (niv)
At that time they will call Jerusalem The Throne of the Lord, and all nations will gather in Jerusalem to honor the name of the Lord. No longer will they follow the stubbornness of their evil hearts.

Jeremiah 17:12 (niv)
A glorious throne, exalted from the beginning, is the place of our sanctuary.

Ezeliel 1:26 Young's Literal Translation
And above the expanse that [is] over their head, as an appearance of a sapphire stone, [is] the likeness of a throne, and on the likeness of the throne a likeness, as the appearance of man upon it from above.

Ezekiel 10:1 (niv)
[ God's Glory Departs From the Temple ] I looked, and I saw the likeness of a throne of lapis lazuli above the vault that was over the heads of the cherubim.

Daniel 7:9 Young's Literal Translation
`I was seeing till that thrones have been thrown down, and the Ancient of Days is seated, His garment as snow [is] white, and the hair of his head [is] as pure wool, His throne flames of fire, its wheels burning fire.

Jonah 3:6 (niv)
When Jonah's warning reached the king of Nineveh, he rose from his throne, took off his royal robes, covered himself with sackcloth and sat down in the dust.

Haggai 2:22 King James Version
And I will overthrow the throne of kingdoms, and I will destroy the strength of the kingdoms of the heathen; and I will overthrow the chariots, and those that ride in them; and the horses and their riders shall come down, every one by the sword of his brother.

Zechariah 6:13 Amplified Bible
Yes, [you are to build a temple of the Lord, but] it is He who shall build the [ultimate] temple of the Lord, and He shall bear the honor and majesty [as the only begotten of the Father] and sit and rule on His throne. And He shall be a Priest on His throne, and the counsel of peace shall be between the two offices [Priest and King]."'

Matthew 5:34 (niv)
But I tell you, do not swear an oath at all: either by heaven, for it is God's throne;

Matthew 19:28 Amplified Bible
Jesus said to them, "I assure you and most solemnly say to you, in the renewal [that is, the Messianic restoration and regeneration of all things] when the Son of Man sits on His glorious throne, you [who have followed Me, becoming My disciples] will also sit on twelve thrones, judging the twelve tribes of Israel.

Matthew 25:31 (niv)
[ The Sheep and the Goats ] "When the Son of Man comes in his glory, and all the angels with him, he will sit on his glorious throne.

Luke 1:32 (niv)
He will be great and will be called the Son of the Most High. The Lord God will give him the throne of his father David,

Acts 2:30 (niv)
But he was a prophet and knew that God had promised him on oath that he would place one of his descendants on his throne.

Hebrews 1:8 (niv)
But about the Son he says, "Your throne, O God, will last for ever and ever; a scepter of justice will be the scepter of your kingdom.

Hebrews 4:16 Young's Literal Translation
we may come near, then, with freedom, to the throne of the grace, that we may receive kindness, and find grace -- for seasonable help.

Hebrews 8:1 Amplified Bible
[ A Better Ministry ] Now the main point of what we have to say is this: we have such a High Priest, [the Christ] who is seated [in the place of honor] at the right hand of the throne of the Majesty (God) in heaven,
Young's Literal Translation
And the sum concerning the things spoken of [is]: we have such a chief priest, who did sit down at the right hand of the throne of the greatness in the heavens,

Revelation 1:4 (niv)
[ Greetings and Doxology ] John, To the seven churches in the province of Asia: Grace and peace to you from him who is, and who was, and who is to come, and from the seven spirits before his throne,

Revelation 2:13 Young's Literal Translation
I have known thy works, and where thou dost dwell -- where the throne of the Adversary [is] -- and thou dost hold fast my name, and thou didst not deny my faith, even in the days in which Antipas [was] my faithful witness, who was put to death beside you, where the Adversary doth dwell.

Revelation 3:21 (niv)
To the one who is victorious, I will give the right to sit with me on my throne, just as I was victorious and sat down with my Father on his throne.
Young's Literal Translation
He who is overcoming -- I will give to him to sit with me in my throne, as I also did overcome and did sit down with my Father in His throne.

Revelation 4:1 New King James Version
[ The Throne Room of Heaven ] After these things I looked, and behold, a door standing open in heaven. And the first voice which I heard was like a trumpet speaking with me, saying, "(John)Come up here, and I will show you things which must take place after this."

Revelation 4:2 (niv)
At once I was in the Spirit, and there before me was a throne in heaven with someone sitting on it.

Revelation 4:3 (niv)
And the one who sat there had the appearance of jasper and ruby. A rainbow that shone like an emerald encircled the throne.
Amplified Bible
And He who sat there appeared like [the crystalline sparkle of] a jasper stone and [the fiery redness of] a sardius stone, and encircling the throne there was a rainbow that looked like [the color of an] emerald.
Young's Literal Translation
and He who is sitting was in sight like a stone, jasper and sardine: and a rainbow was round the throne in sight like an emerald.

Revelation 4:4 Young's Literal Translation
And around the throne [are] thrones twenty and four, and upon the thrones I saw the twenty and four elders sitting, clothed in white garments, and they had upon their heads crowns of gold;

Revelation 4:5 (niv)
From the throne came flashes of lightning, rumblings and peals of thunder. In front of the throne, seven lamps were blazing. These are the seven spirits of God.

Revelation 4:6 (niv)
Also in front of the throne there was what looked like a sea of glass, clear as crystal. In the center, around the throne, were four living creatures, and they were covered with eyes, in front and in back.

Revelation 4:8-10 Young's Literal Translation
8 And the four living creatures, each by itself severally, had six wings, around and within [are] full of eyes, and rest they have not day and night, saying, `Holy, holy, holy, Lord God Almighty, who was, and who is, and who is coming;'
9 and when the living creatures do give glory, and honour, and thanks, to Him who is sitting upon the throne, who is living to the ages of the ages,
10 fall down do the twenty and four elders before Him who is sitting upon the throne, and bow before Him who is living to the ages of the ages, and they cast their crowns before the throne, saying,

Revelation 5:1 Young's Literal Translation
And I saw upon the right hand of Him who is sitting upon the throne a scroll, written within and on the back, sealed with seven seals;

Revelation 5:6 Young's Literal Translation
and I saw, and lo, in the midst of the throne, and of the four living creatures, and in the midst of the elders, a Lamb hath stood as it had been slain, having seven horns and seven eyes, which are the Seven Spirits of God, which are sent to all the earth,
Amplified Bible
And there between the throne (with the four living creatures) and among the elders I saw a Lamb (Christ) standing, [bearing scars and wounds] as though it had been slain, with seven horns (complete power) and with seven eyes (complete knowledge), which are the seven Spirits of God who have been sent [on duty] into all the earth.

Revelation 5:7 (niv)
He went and took the scroll from the right hand of him who sat on the throne.

Revelation 5:11 (niv)
Then I looked and heard the voice of many angels, numbering thousands upon thousands, and ten thousand times ten thousand. They encircled the throne and the living creatures and the elders.

Revelation 5:13 (niv)
Then I heard every creature in heaven and on earth and under the earth and on the sea, and all that is in them, saying: "To him who sits on the throne and to the Lamb be praise and honor and glory and power, for ever and ever!"
Young's Literal Translation
and every creature that is in the heaven, and in the earth, and under the earth, and the things that are upon the sea, and the all things in them, heard I saying, `To Him who is sitting upon the throne, and to the Lamb, [is] the blessing, and the honour, and the glory, and the might -- to the ages of the ages!'

Revelation 6:16 Young's Literal Translation
and they say to the mountains and to the rocks, `Fall upon us, and hide us from the face of Him who is sitting upon the throne, and from the anger of the Lamb,'

Revelation 7:9 Amplified Bible
After these things I looked, and this is what I saw: a vast multitude which no one could count, [gathered] from every nation and from all the tribes and peoples and languages [of the earth], standing before the throne and before the Lamb (Christ), dressed in white robes, with palm branches in their hands;

Revelation 7:10 (niv)
And they cried out in a loud voice: "Salvation belongs to our God, who sits on the throne, and to the Lamb."

Revelation 7:11 Young's Literal Translation
And all the messengers (angels) stood around the throne, and the elders and the four living creatures, and they fell upon their face, and bowed before God,

Revelation 7:15 Amplified Bible
For this reason, they are [standing] before the throne of God; and they serve Him [in worship] day and night in His temple; and He who sits on the throne will spread His tabernacle over them and shelter and protect them [with His presence].
Young's Literal Translation
because the Lamb that [is] in the midst of the throne shall feed them, and shall lead them unto living fountains of waters, and wipe away shall God every tear from their eyes.'

Revelation 8:2-4 Young's Literal Translation
2 and I saw the seven messengers who before God have stood, and there were given to them seven trumpets,
3 and another messenger did come, and he stood at the altar, having a golden censer, and there was given to him much perfume, that he may give [it] to the prayers of all the saints upon the golden altar that [is] before the throne,
4 and go up did the smoke of the perfumes to the prayers of the saints out of the hand of the messenger, before God;

Revelation 12:5 (niv)
She gave birth to a son, a male child, who "will rule all the nations with an iron scepter." And her child was snatched up to God and to his throne.
Young's Literal Translation
and she brought forth a male child, who is about to rule all the nations with a rod of iron, and caught away was her child unto God and His throne,

Revelation 13:2 Young's Literal Translation
and the beast that I saw was like to a leopard, and its feet as of a bear, and its mouth as the mouth of a lion, and the dragon did give to it his power, and his throne, and great authority.

Revelation 14:3 & 5 Young's Literal Translation
and they sing, as it were, a new song before the throne, and before the four living creatures, and the elders, and no one was able to learn the song except the hundred forty-four thousands, who have been bought from the earth.. and in their mouth there was not found guile, for unblemished are they before the throne of God.

Revelation 16:10 (niv)
The fifth angel poured out his bowl on the throne of the beast, and its kingdom was plunged into darkness...

Revelation 16:17 Amplified Bible
[ Seventh Bowl of Wrath ] Then the seventh angel poured out his bowl into the air, and a loud voice came out of the temple from the throne [of God], saying, "It is done. [It is all over, it is all accomplished, it has come.]"
Young's Literal Translation
And the seventh messenger did pour out his vial to the air, and there came forth a great voice from the sanctuary of the heaven, from the throne, saying, `It hath come!'

Revelation 18:7 Amplified Bible
To the degree that she glorified herself and reveled and gloated in her sensuality [living deliciously and luxuriously], to that same degree impose on her torment and anguish, and mourning and grief; for in her heart she boasts, 'I sit as a queen [on a throne] and I am not a widow, and will never, ever see mourning or experience grief.'

Revelation 19:4 (niv)
The twenty-four elders and the four living creatures fell down and worshiped God, who was seated on the throne. And they cried: "Amen, Hallelujah!"

Revelation 19:5 Young's Literal Translation
And a voice out of the throne did come forth, saying, `Praise our God, all ye His servants, and those fearing Him, both the small and the great;'

Revelation 20:11 (niv)
[ The Judgment of the Dead ] Then I saw a great white throne and him who was seated on it. The earth and the heavens fled from his presence, and there was no place for them.

Revelation 20:12 (niv)
And I saw the dead, great and small, standing before the throne, and books were opened. Another book was opened, which is the book of life. The dead were judged according to what they had done as recorded in the books.

Revelation 21:3 (niv)
And I heard a loud voice from the throne saying, "Look! God's dwelling place is now among the people, and he will dwell with them. They will be his people, and God himself will be with them and be their God.

Revelation 21:5 (niv)
He who was seated on the throne said, "I am making everything new!" Then he said, "Write this down, for these words are trustworthy and true."
Young's Literal Translation
And He who is sitting upon the throne said, `Lo, new I make all things; and He saith to me, `Write, because these words are true and stedfast;'

Revelation 22:1 (niv)
[ Eden Restored ] Then the angel showed me the river of the water of life, as clear as crystal, flowing from the throne of God and of the Lamb
Young's Literal Translation
And he shewed me a pure river of water of life, bright as crystal, going forth out of the throne of God and of the Lamb:

Revelation 22:3 (niv)
No longer will there be any curse. The throne of God and of the Lamb will be in the city, and his servants will serve him.

[marie glen]

..amen, Sheila..!

           and Rose.. blue and green are my favorite colors (because to me they are sky and earth/God's glorious creating...
             :thumbsup: :dsunny:

[rosered]

Wow  Marie this is spiritual warfare , not flesh and blood , but it seems the kings of the earth    and their kingdoms were  opposing the Kingdom   of God and His city

   This article is pretty good   here ..
  and you have been  Busy girl!!!!!!!!    Thank you so much   for the thrones   scripture    :HeartThrob:

     Seems the THRONE   is where every pours our from    , the waters of life and the fires    etc ...

http://www.hebrew4christians.com/Scripture/Parashah/Summaries/Tetzaveh/Amalek/amalek.html

..amen, Sheila..!

           and Rose.. blue and green are my favorite colors (because to me they are sky and earth/God's glorious creating...
             :thumbsup: :dsunny:

    AMEN!!!      Both in the natural and Spiritual it seems     :dsunny:    that threw  me when reading something like a throne and it was blue   
  I know I have read these before  but it just jumped out  this time     with surprise   

   God said ,   Heaven is my throne      and now I can see it is where everything is created and sustained    and even  changed !! 
wow!!!

[jugghead]

here is the same thing described in another way

three things:
Christ
throne
sea of glass

if we see that this is a picture of what takes place in us, meaning that it is the finished work of Christ in us .....

The throne is our mind ..... that which is seated in the heaven ..... always thinking upon things above
The sea of glass is our heart ..... that which is the foundation of the heaven ..... a pure heart

Christ is the ruler of both of these things in us ..... HE IS both of these things in us

Also seeing them as a people:

The throne ..... a people of royal priesthood
The sea of glass ..... a people of purity

A FULL picture of "THE PURITY OF TRUTH" not only of Christ but also HIM in us

my  :2c:
Blessings

[jugghead]

And also ..... just want to say  :HeartThrob:"THANK YOU" :HeartThrob: rose for your comments about the things I say

[marie glen]

I was thinking... sort of a summary of the verses I read.. and copy pasted some..

..that God's throne is a throne of "love" and "peace" and it is, actually, for ever.. age to age.. ages to ages..

And other thrones have been set up.. but they will fall..

Wow  Marie this is spiritual warfare , not flesh and blood , but it seems the kings of the earth    and their kingdoms were  opposing the Kingdom   of God and His city

   This article is pretty good   here ..
  and you have been  Busy girl!!!!!!!!    Thank you so much   for the thrones   scripture    :HeartThrob:

     Seems the THRONE   is where every pours our from    , the waters of life and the fires    etc ...

http://www.hebrew4christians.com/Scripture/Parashah/Summaries/Tetzaveh/Amalek/amalek.html

God said ,   Heaven is my throne      and now I can see it is where everything is created and sustained    and even  changed !! 
wow!!!

Wow is right! "..where everything is created and sustained    and even  changed !!" :thumbsup:

thank you for sharing that! :cloud9: :cloud9: HE is so ....wow! (awesome, that is:)


..That's a good article! Lots of good info!.. I bookmarked the site - http://www.hebrew4christians.com/index.html  thanks for the link!

       It looks like a great site! :dsunny: :banana:

[marie glen]

from your link, Rose..

.."in the beginning was the word/logic.."

http://www.hebrew4christians.com/Clear_Thinking/Basic_Concepts/basic_concepts.html

..enjoying the site.. (so far all good.. so few are..)

[Cardinal]

 :cloud9: He gave me a dream vision of this, of a woman I was taking care of during my home health ministry years. She was an Italian Catholic war bride. I ended up being used to lead her to the Lord. I was stationed at the foot of her bed every night, sitting on a beanbag, allowed to sleep if she did. The night I was used to lead her to Him, I had a dream where I saw one of the most beautiful sights in the Spirit I have ever been shown. Under her bed (place of rest) was what looked like a mosaic of about 1-2 inch "tiles" of sapphires.

I'm not sure if it was not finished yet, because it looked like a Scrabble game board with wood tiles missing, or if that was like her "spiritual blueprint" she had received. But it was definitely a "God dream, in color". Blessings....

[Cardinal]

Isaaih 54;11  I will rebuild your foundation with sapphires........

:cloud9: Ok, yes, forgot this script....yes, now it makes sense!  :thumbsup: Thanks  :HeartThrob:

[Cardinal]

here is the same thing described in another way

three things:
Christ
throne
sea of glass

if we see that this is a picture of what takes place in us, meaning that it is the finished work of Christ in us .....

The throne is our mind ..... that which is seated in the heaven ..... always thinking upon things above
The sea of glass is our heart ..... that which is the foundation of the heaven ..... a pure heart

Christ is the ruler of both of these things in us ..... HE IS both of these things in us

Also seeing them as a people:

The throne ..... a people of royal priesthood
The sea of glass ..... a people of purity

A FULL picture of "THE PURITY OF TRUTH" not only of Christ but also HIM in us

my  :2c:
Blessings

:cloud9: :HeartThrob: this too.....so glad to have you back sharing with us, Jugg..... :thumbsup:. Blessings....

[sheila]

gives a clearer perspective to 'if thy right eye offend thee pluck it out" eh?

[Cardinal]

 :cloud9: Dense this morning Sheila....don't get your comment.... :Chinscratch:

[sheila]

sorry Bex..it had to do with the Amalek/spiritual warfare link........ :girlheart:

[eaglesway]

I had a vision once. I was high above the earth, and there was a ring below me and it was the 24 elders and above me I saw Jesus. You could see the earth clearly through the ring but outside the ring was misty grey. There was a wind coming up from the earth, like suction or drawing wind and there were sparks/lights rising up from the earth in this wind and they were flying past me towards Jesus.

After it was over, just maybe 10 seconds or so, scriptures began to go through my mind, chiefest among them was from Ephesians 4....

     7But to each one of us grace was given according to the measure of Christ's gift.

8Therefore it says,
            "WHEN HE ASCENDED ON HIGH,
            HE LED CAPTIVE A HOST OF CAPTIVES,
            AND HE GAVE GIFTS TO MEN."

9(Now this expression, "He ascended," what does it mean except that He also had descended into the lower parts of the earth? 10He who descended is Himself also He who ascended far above all the heavens, so that He might fill all things.)

I began to see that there is a tabernacle in the heavens surrounding His throne, and this heavenly tabernacle manifests in the hearts of the saints when they are one. This is how the Bride comes down out of heaven.

Then I thought of the "open heaven"- i.e. "and the heavens were opened and I saw visions of God" and "the veil in the heavens was rolled back like a scroll and the sign of the son of man(the ark of the covenant) appeared in the heavens"

And I thought of Jacobs ladder and the Lord saying "henceforth you will see the angels of God ascending and descending on the son of man." john 1:41

Also I saw the vision of John the revelator in a whole new light, as the veil is torn through the body of Christ and beneath the altar the martyrs cry out and there is smoke and incense and lightning, like the glory of the Lord filling His temple......

As judgment begins with the elders at Jerusalem in the house of God that He might first fill the temple before spilling out over all creation, that is the pattern and it is seen in the book of Acts where they were in one mind and one accord and the heavens opened and the angels of God were ascending and descending upon them and the Lord was drawing all men unto Him because he was HIGH and LIFTED up and His train(captivity captive, a host of captives) FILLED the Temple.

Even as Isaiah was touched on the lips and sent, so were they and they all cried "Here I am Lord"

The Lord was speaking to me about this heavenly suction, this holy chimney drawing from below and expelling into the heights as an eternally existent bellows blowing on the coals like the wings of the seraphim......

A great convection chamber gathering souls into the all in all.

And GREAT GRACE was upon them all the WORD OF THE LORD grew and multiplied and the LORD ADDED DAILY to the church as many as were appointed to salvation and they were as one heart and soul and no one among them had any need.

Within that holy field, beneath that crystaline expanse like a canopy all round, there is only holiness unto the Lord and the abundance of exponentially multiplied grace through the overflow of the Spirit.

It exists in the union and communion of the body of Christ,

"Wherever two or more of you gather in my name there I am in the midst of you.."

In the heavens, where we are seated with Christ, the reality is there. But if we are one, as He and the Father are one, it manifests here.....

I pray also for those who will believe in me through their message, 21 that all of them may be one, Father, just as you are in me and I am in you. May they also be in us so that the world may believe that you have sent me. 22 I have given them the glory that you gave me, that they may be one as we are one— 23 I in them and you in me—so that they may be brought to complete unity. Then the world will know that you sent me and have loved them even as you have loved me.....

Then the world will know. Then the Bride will come down out of the heavens adorned in white linen. Then the trumpets will sound and the wedding feats begin.

We cant make it happen, but we can believe it, and weep for it, and perhaps YHWH will hear and send "times of refreshing from the presence of the Lord" and we could see the "drawing", the "rising" and the "gathering" into the "restoration of all things".

The adversary keeps us "looking down", but the Lord says "come up here", "set your affections on things above where Christ is seated at the right hand of God"............


Let the priests, the LORD's ministers,
            Weep between the porch and the altar,
            And let them say, "Spare Thy people, O LORD,
            And do not make Thine inheritance a reproach,
            A byword among the nations.
            Why should they among the peoples say,
            'Where is their God?'"

Who is wise and understanding among you? Let them show it by their good life, by deeds done in the humility that comes from wisdom. 14 But if you harbor bitter envy and selfish ambition in your hearts, do not boast about it or deny the truth. 15 Such "wisdom" does not come down from heaven but is earthly, unspiritual(soulish), demonic. 16 For where you have envy and selfish ambition, there you find disorder and every evil practice.

17 But the wisdom that comes from heaven is first of all pure; then peace-loving, considerate, submissive, full of mercy and good fruit, impartial and sincere. 18 Peacemakers who sow in peace reap a harvest of righteousness.

There is a generation that throws it all away, counts it all rubbish, and finds glory in the temple, united in the love of Christ, rooted and grounded in love, filled up to all the fulness of God.

"Be lifted up ye gates! and Be lifted up ye Everlasting Doors, that the King of Glory may come in,
Who is this King of Glory?
The Lord, Strong and mighty, the Lord mighty in battle."


But you have come to Mount Zion, to the city of the living God, the heavenly Jerusalem. You have come to thousands upon thousands of angels in joyful assembly, 23 to the church of the firstborn, whose names are written in heaven. You have come to God, the Judge of all, to the spirits of the righteous made perfect, 24 to Jesus the mediator of a new covenant, and to the sprinkled blood that speaks a better word than the blood of Abel.

[rosered]

  Wow , thanks to all for your  contributions   ,, I am having some computer trouble  and  am not computer wiz !!  that is for sure ..

  I hope to dig in and read when  I  have some more time   ,, and get this computer  back on track .. or make it worse  :sigh:

I dont know yet , If you see me back ,     its ok and if not .. I am in some trouble now

   God bless bros and sisters

[rosered]

 
  Awesome John  :thumbsup:

  Just read your post!!!


  I had to  clear cookies and junk and had to reset some things    ....

I love all that was shared , I like that link too  sister  Marie !!!  insightful    !!

  Shelia    I got it !!   , the evil eye  , pluck it out ..    worldly  dwellers

  Jugg  I love all you and  2knowHim    share  ,  those spiritual insights help   me  to  remember   and think and     do    much better if not reminded  or think or do

That I why I love   being  here with everyone    , I  do love you all  philo   affectionately   so  :HeartThrob:

[sheila]

love you,too!  :HeartThrob:

[sheila]

I had trouble,too..and could not post.. :dontknow:  John love what you were shown..the wheelworks/circle come to mind.....Ophanim

    ...I was taken up/sucked up so fast it makes you physically ill afterward........whirling wheelworks..like a thresher of men

that bring/sucks/draws into the barn of Heaven His holy seed.

     AWESOME GOD.........also noted the smoke that fills His temple.........and people that are formed of Him that He takes pleasure in as a

  pleasant aroma on His alter............

   so many wonderful wonderful things the Father is showing us....................and to think..that we ALL belong to Him...and

that He belongs to us all.

   the four wheels also correlate with the four winds..and THE GREAT HARVEST OF OUR FATHER.............of which Our Lord

  Jesus is also the Master over this harvest..

[sheila]

every time we pray...Our Father who art in heaven..Holy be thy name..Thy Kingdom come Thy will be done..on earth as it is in heaven..

      this is what we are praying about......