Certain Aspects of Truth - a Certain View

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Everybody is different and therefore sees the Truth subjectively - in their own way. This is my opinion regarding certain aspects of Truth which I personally believe to be from the Spirit, so I make no claim on it, yet it is how I regard certain aspects of Truth.

I believe that those who surrounded the Sacred One, the Messiah, represented all types - yet ironically, His greatest enemies were those who should have been His own. His greatest enemies were the custodians of the Truth of that day. To them temptation came thus: 'This man, this prophet - he will take from us all that which we prize the most, we must get rid of him or we ourselves are undone'.

Two things, in my opinion, held the minds of the teachers and the preachers of that day - on the one hand love of possessions and gluttony for power; on the other intellectual pride.

It appears to me that there have been many so-called holy men who have devoted their energies and their powers to penetrating into the knowledge connected with God and His creation - but if one comes into their midst and, in gentleness, bids them lay aside some of the furniture of their mind and return to simple things, they will have none of him. Not the possessions of the world but the possessions of the mind of the body, present almost an equal temptation to such as these.

The One with All-Knowledge, the One who is Wisdom, came into the world of His day and, to all, gave those simple truths - the patient life, the bestowal of the gift of love, the refraining from retaliation, the forgiving unto seventy times seven. It is little wonder, to me, that those filled with love of power and pride of mind spurned the message and crucified Him. He was none of them and He sought to tear from them that which was their god.

It appears to me that the Master deliberately imposed upon Himself mighty reservations. Christ Jesus could have sent out a thought-form and controlled the raging throng around Him, He could have subjected the teachers, the lawyers and the scholars to the complete control of His will.

But the Tender One passed amongst the masses and looked down with compassion upon all - for indeed, as I see it, they were as little children in their blindness - as little children in their defencelessness - He passed amongst the misery of their conditions, and His Hand went out here and His understanding glanced there - and in their joy He found the only joy which was the experience of His earthly life.

By going back in thought and in love on that olden time, it can be seen that they were bound by much; indeed that which we name disease, and a thousand horrors hidden from us - this was their daily sight, and if perchance a stab went through their hearts, they were powerless to help, and they passed out of the seething throng into some quiet corner to forget, to lose themselves in the contemplation of this, in the unravelling of that. It was the 'life' of the world, and they understood scarce a fragment, for the darkness was within.

There is a principle abroad, so it seems to me, that all those who have followed after and carried the message of the suffering Christ - as that message was given by the Christ - they too have suffered in their turn. There have been many who have claimed themselves as the representatives of the Holy Master, but they have surrounded themselves with a hundred things which Christ ruled out of His own emanations. They have withdrawn from the reality of the masses and have enriched the mind at the expense of the soul - an unbalance has occurred. Though the written Word was before them, though that mighty Example was laid out in a way that cannot be ignored, the world's way proved too strong, and the Christ way was followed only in part.

In my own opinion, there is a sorrow which assails such as these when sight is their own, for they cannot plead that ignorance which was the lot of many of those who were the enemies of the Beloved in that olden time. In that time, the Lord God Jehovah was regarded as an Almighty Being, yet the priests had so perverted Truth that the people assumed Him to be surrounded by treasures and comforts and luxuries which the richest part of the physical world could never produce. Around Him there were legions of slaves and servants who waited but to obey His slightest command.

I believe that this was the God built up by the minds of man, because to them that only was great which had great possessions. Yet, those who follow after do not have this same excuse. They have the life of the Holy One, His humble origin, the toil, the many privations, and those years of definite ministry among the ones He loved so well.

The toil cannot be exaggerated, the expended effort and the weariness of those years, the extremes were extremes so severe, that the strongest body at times was sore put to withstand them - but the Master He thought ever of others and never of Himself.

We think of Christ because He is all in all to us. His followers of olden times, dear to us, they have their place, but the One enshrined is the Beloved, the Christ who walked this little earth, who suffered as we have suffered yet more so - as we can never suffer - who understands all that the body and its pangs can represent.

We love Christ - yet there are countless numbers claiming themselves as Christians who find it almost impossible to think of God as the gentle, patient Christ. It appears to me that they ponder over His words and that expression of the Godhead, but that belongs to the past. When He has been taken from this earth as far as is expressed in the Sacred Record, once more a King, a Governor, a Powerful Ruler - that was God.

In my opinion, when those who have followed the commandments of Christ pass hence, it will be the same tenderness and patience, the same sweetness and humility that will meet them as their God. And because of this, there are thousands believing in the One True God. I also believe that many will look in vain for one great in material power, surrounded by that furniture which, to them, means so much - the rich garments and the vessels - those things beautiful to the physical sight, but these are as nothing, nothing when once a soul has looked in the eyes of Christ and read there the gigantic humility of the Lord God of all.

Christ does not change, it is man who changes his conception of the Sacred One. Because the Creator is the Creator, so also He is humility Itself. Only the Creator of all could rise to such heights. We, in our turn, for ever seek to hold the humble heart, and when the Master gives of Himself to us - even as He ministered to those we name the disciples in the days of old - when our God ministers to us, so then, out of the wonder of it all, we gather to ourselves a little more of that humility which is His alone.

Referring now to those who have challenged the further revelation of Truth by the Holy Spirit today: How great a comfort should be in ones heart and mind, for the very arguments they bring against a greater understanding of the Love of God, they are precisely the same as those addressed to the Master and the message He sought to teach.

Someone once asked: 'What is Truth?' I understand that there have been countless millions since who have asked: 'What is Truth?' In my opinion, the answer lies open before them, but it is not that 'Truth' which they want. I believe this should be considered seriously because within its folds lies a most terrible temptation.

As many people know, TRUTH walked amongst man. And by His simplicity, by all that materialistic thought which He dispensed with, He illustrated The Truth; but His own rejected Him and deemed Him worthy of death. In these so-called enlightened days, there are the same minds, the same evasions, and only the few ask 'What is Truth' and take the answer which God has provided for them.

I do not think people should allow any misgiving to enter their understanding that the Father over-rules all lives. By that very similarity of experience, a person is honoured in a way the physical mind cannot grasp - he or she is linked to the Master Christ by the very criticism which has been thrown against them. The Truth is held, but it is not that Truth which these others so desire. The Truth they look for and the only Truth that they will recognise, is that which allows them to retain the elements of power, those possessions which make the earthly pathway pleasanter, and those accolades from the masses for their apparent knowledge - so they think.

So time passes, and precious opportunity is scattered on every side, but according to my understanding the day must come when all those with the great minds, and all those with the great possessions, must come back to the simple life and the humble heart - to that nakedness which God, as Christ, demonstrated for all to see - if they had the will to look.

It should be remembered, I believe, that one may suffer under attack and his or her heart may ache, but in time, to them, those who struck will come. And they - before they can enter into conditions of peace - they must shed the furniture of the mind, shed the physical will and those embellishments of material life to which they cling, even when the physical life is no more. And as a pilgrim, as the Master, take the humble way, the way of persecution, and in turn, the Garden and the Cross, until they are born again.

I perceive that those in sacred, quiet conditions have a gift impossible to express in the language of the world. Because of that built up over the past, because of the workings of the Holy Spirit, so there is that which is as a ray, a faint ray from the Mind of God Himself. And perceiving this, one should fill their hearts and minds with joy, for they have that which nothing of the earth can purchase, and nothing of the earth can take away.

In ones grip one has fragments of that great Truth which God represents, and because the will is there, so one can focus on that expression of God, given to man in Christ. And when the earth way is ended, one shall see Him, see the Creator, and feel upon oneself the radiance of His tender, most understanding Love - the gentleness and the humility of His concern for you. That is Truth and that is God, according to my opinion.

Peace

"A few drops of blood renew the whole world, and become for all men that which rennet is for milk, uniting and drawing us into one". "Christ is like leaven for the entire mass, and having made that which was damned one with himself, frees the whole from damnation".

Gregory of Nazianzu

ed

I like the analogy of furniture of the mind.  Furniture of the mind being a possession that can not be parted with.  Doctrine is not our Lord, but it does attain that place if not put in its proper place......it is nice furniture.

The fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faith, gentleness, self-control.

How does fruit differ from furniture?  It lasts only a season and must be consumed while fresh, in the moment.  Furniture gets dusty, but we can clean it and keep it until it finally wears out...............it does wear out, but takes a lot longer then fruit.

Fruit is living, furniture is not.  It takes a lot of work to get good furniture, and it can be taken away, and then it takes a lot of work to get the same piece and maintain it.  Fruit is always the same, and comes from the same source, with little or no maintenance if nature cooperates. 

The Way, the Truth, and the Life is alive and well in the vine.






sheila


rosered




  I know this   may sound  odd to some  of my brothers and sisters here
Because God knows I do try to love everyone   everywhere,  where ever they are at   and   really have to  ignore that sinful state  of being flesh and blood ..

and love them  anyway  , to practice this   , I have to rebuke  , judgmental thoughts   , that try to accuse   within myself

   This is how I stay true  to myself and keep my own conscience clean  and actually pray for healing on all counts   , for them and   my own ''sinful state ''

   Because     I  keep the ''thought''    in my  head that judgement day     is    TODAY    for me,  as I stand before the Lord   ...

and ask him to reveal the secrets of my heart   those ''hidden things '''   that do not please HIM    and cast them down   and away  , so His Light will flood my soul

I have to be honest      and truthful  , because just as Pilate was standing before the truth and did not recognize him   , I believe that JESUS IS ALWAYS CLOSE

  maybe silent    , but  near and    Looking with them  7 eyes of the SPIRIT      right into   my heart ..   It really is so personal to me   

  When I talk about  God to others , its not nearly as   ''pure '' as when I am actually  talking to Him

  We do have a relationship   that is secret    , it is like  casting away   ''clutter ''     in my minds eye

  Every day  is a ''new day ''     and fresh start      and  keep those things behind me that    ''is past ''       and   if any thought of wrong doing comes       

  I know I have to make amends      and be forgiveng    to BE FORGIVEN       
So if I have ever offended anyone and     harmed them  in away        I truly am sorry     ,  I just get carried away some times       , some in the Spirit  , maybe the ''wrong spirit ''        and    my  flesh does  rise from time to time  and I despise that one     , just now learning to recognise       it   as   a problem ''

    , its always angry     and have had it since my childhood  ,     that must be dealt with....... that only  the LORD JESUS CHRIST CAN HELP    ''  bind up ''   and stop , God knows I have tried  and failed   , it  swells up and produces    a change   , a force   that    actually makes my heart hard , like a rock   ,

  and have had to go     get treatment  for it       ,    my blood pressure rises     to an  unhealthy    state   and become ''sick '' all over   

I know this sounds odd     , but learning to deal with it is hard  , its like being overwhelmed    and helpless ,''caught in a trap ''  I can only   cry out to   God please help me   ,
I am going to explode   
   It comes when I don't deal with things   and the  pile up ''like clutter''    and they have to be washed away      and the Lord will cleans it with fire , cause you feel like you are  on fire ..

   So the Lord gave me this   , today   is the last day     and  you must ''come clean ''  as  impure thoughts  rise up from the heart . because I asked for it .

I believe judgment is here for some     , the fire and sword is real     and dividing and conquering    as  the Lord keeps for Himself  and destroys  what is not of Him


Anything  done  with the pure motive of  genuine love      for   your fellowman   because you do Love God   is a constant  pressing  forward  and to leave those other things  behind us    , it really is a race   that the only THING   and ONE IS CHRIST in you  , that is the prize .

and end result ,        some really are and have and will be , standing before the throne of  Jesus Christ grace    ..

  So the battle is not ours  but we are partakers of it   , suffering for the sake of Jesus Christ is real   and the last enemy is death itself    , than can the Life of Christ actually be living in you  and revealed in you       , the awareness of it happening is the  work we have to acknowledge   and declare and proclaim

  HE REALLY IS SAVING US   for Himself       I believe and really try to obey His   command   and its getting easier to ''recognize as of late .''
  It really is a personal thing for each and every one of us  , but learning to understand it can be difficult     at times   

  Do you think anyone of the  called out ones in the Bible knew  what was happening to them when God got a hold of them ?

  It is   a fearful      thing   and yet we   bow the knee   and lower the head    , in   honor    and AWE  OF GOD  !! .

  I am glad to see everyone  here and hanging in there  still    .  we can only share what we know  , as real and truth  as the Lord voice    becomes clear   ,Ep 2  But now in Christ Jesus you who once were far away have been brought near by the blood of Christ.   
I believe the LORD  has dealt with some their whole lives   and  , like me just now realizing it   much  more clearly .

  He ALONE is the power and glory forever   ..

   LOVE YOU ALL        :HeartThrob:
Jesus is the reward  !!

joeteekay

Very well said, Rose.  :thumbsup: :banana:
3 John 4 - I have no greater joy than to hear that my children walk in truth.

Dandelion

rosered's post reminds me of this song, that a friend of mine sings.

https://youtu.be/HV3MJOQ2sTk   This is the You Tube link.

It's called, THERE'S A ROOM IN MY HEART.

I hope it is alright if I put a song here......jabcat, let me know.

D.
7"Ask, and it will be given to you; seek, and you will find; knock, and it will be opened to you. 8"For everyone who asks receives, and he who seeks finds, and to him who knocks it will be opened....

Matthew 7:7 -8

jabcat

haven't listened yet, but absolutely it's alright (as long as it's not a Druid/pagan chant or something similar)  :laugh2:

The oldest known manuscripts agree with each other 99% of the time.  The scriptures, accurately translated, Spirit revealed - reliable.   Looking unto Jesus, the Author and Finisher of our faith.  Heb. 12:2

Dandelion

My friend is a well known Christian singer on LI. This is an original song, that Palma Pascale wrote, who was a dear friend and music director for Frank. You can hear some other things she wrote and sung on Reverbnation and CD Baby. It is being sung at Samantha's lil bit of Heaven, in East Northport, NY. My favorite place on earth........   :HeartThrob:

I think you will like it.
7"Ask, and it will be given to you; seek, and you will find; knock, and it will be opened to you. 8"For everyone who asks receives, and he who seeks finds, and to him who knocks it will be opened....

Matthew 7:7 -8

jabcat

Quote from: Dandelion on July 06, 2015, 05:56:10 AM
My friend is a well known Christian singer on LI. This is an original song, that Palma Pascale wrote, who was a dear friend and music director for Frank. You can hear some other things she wrote and sung on Reverbnation and CD Baby. It is being sung at Samantha's lil bit of Heaven, in East Northport, NY. My favorite place on earth........   :HeartThrob:

I think you will like it.

:thumbsup:  Touching..very good.  Thank you!   :dsunny:
The oldest known manuscripts agree with each other 99% of the time.  The scriptures, accurately translated, Spirit revealed - reliable.   Looking unto Jesus, the Author and Finisher of our faith.  Heb. 12:2

rosered



Gods Blessings all ,  1Cor 4



...4For I am conscious of nothing against myself, yet I am not by this acquitted;



but the one who examines me is the Lord.


5Therefore do not go on passing judgment before the time,


but wait until the Lord comes who will both bring to light the things

hidden in the darkness and disclose the motives of men's hearts; and then each man's praise will come to him from God.

Isaiah 26 Song of Trust in God's Provision

...19Your dead will live; Their corpses will rise.

You who lie in the dust, awake and shout for joy, For your dew is as the dew of the dawn,


And the earth will give birth to the departed spirits.

20Come, my people, enter into your rooms And close your doors behind you; Hide for a little while Until indignation runs its course.


21For behold, the LORD is about to come out from His place To punish the inhabitants of the earth for their iniquity; And the earth will reveal her bloodshed And will no longer cover her slain.

Matthew 6:6 (CJB) But you, when you pray, go into your room, close the door, and pray to your Father in secret. Your Father, who sees what is done in secret, will reward you.

:dsunny:
Jesus is the reward  !!